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Jokerman:


In life. You must choose, the way of God or the way of Man's greatest enemy.

Freewill exists to choose between God and Satan, but after dropping this body, Freewill is gone

Oga, who creates things and give it options to chose or die?

Why did God create mankind?
Because from your analysis, he only created man to destroy them. And you know that NO MAN IS PERFECT EXCEPT GOD.

Are u saying God didn't know that Satan will be corrupted. The scripture says "God knows the end from the begining and vice versa

Jokerman:


God didn't create the Devil to be a destroyer

He was created perfect, but sin entered into him, and he lost the glory and splendor he once had in heaven as he was cast out

So he has made it his job to also destroy God's most wonderful creation, Man.

jesusjnr2020:
What God Gave To Adam When He Was Lonely

God gave Adam a woman not a man.

Genesis 2:18 (KJV)

And the LORD God said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him.

Genesis 2:21-22 (KJV)

And the LORD God caused a deep sleep to fall upon Adam, and he slept: and he took one of his ribs, and closed up the flesh instead thereof;
And the rib, which the LORD God had taken from man, made he a WOMAN, and brought her unto the MAN.

Therefore whenever you see humans doing anything to the contrary, you should know that tendency didn't emanate from God but the devil, because that's not how God made them to be in the beginning.

God bless.

Yesoo... it wasn't Adam n Steve NOR Adama n Eve

Let's not deviate from the original design

Dogalmighty17 You're very correct, God set Adam up, knowing the woman will lead him to sin and then banish him from Eden [post=134458627:
You know, Adam didn't complain to God that he was lonely. He didn't ask for companionship either. God choose to do that all by himself by bringing a woman.

Everything turned to shit soon after.

r2beez:


When he was created he was an Angel. God didn't create him as the Devil. He chose the part of Evil.

Agreed! But isn't God the all knowing? Before I form thee i knew thee. So he knew the angel lucifer will become Satan yet he went ahead to create him

JASONjnr:


Oga, who creates things and give it options to chose or die?

Why did God create mankind?
Because from your analysis, he only created man to destroy them. And you know that NO MAN IS PERFECT EXCEPT GOD.

Abraham was a man after Gd's heart. While the bible didn't explicitly say he was perfect, one could assume he was perfect to Gd.

Then we have prophet Elijah too. We have prophet Isaiah who Gd cleaned (he dreamt that...). One could assume that those, and perhaps more are perfect men to Gd.

Humans are capable of cleanliness and lack of sin, if they choose that.

delkuf:
is it God that gave David the many women he married. It was God that made David went to the top of a building and sighted bethseba, Uriah's and make him impregnate her and kill Uriah abi. You see as you dey think.

Sense dey pain you...
What of Solomon?

OneOnland:

Abraham was a man after Gd's heart. While the bible didn't explicitly say he was perfect, one could assume he was perfect to Gd.

Then we have prophet Elijah too. We have prophet Isaiah who Gd cleaned (he dreamt that...). One could assume that those, and perhaps more are perfect men to Gd.

Humans are capable of cleanliness and lack of sin, if they choose that.

Let me tell you..... People can pretend to be near-perfect but you can't tell what's in their thoughts....


That's why Jesus said that the moment you think about it, you have already committed sin.

Point is, you can't assume people are perfect or near perfect because you read it in the Bible..... The bible was designed to tell stories that will make us live the life that God wants us to live but in-between the stories, some stories about the individuals where not categorically stated ...

In the same Bible, the bible advocated for sins like someone taking another man's wife and sending the husband to the warfront to die while he was praised and blessed..... Yet such people will make heaven be8the bible speak of them....

AbuTwins:


So who created Sin?

And are you saying God didn't create everything?

God didn’t create sin or evil. Evil exists when a creature created by God begins to nurse a desire that is not of God. That’s why Gid casts out satan when he wanted to exalt his throne above God.

Just like if you’re thinking of killing someone or sleeping with someone’s wife…then evil is being nursed in your heart. It all begins with you.

sparko1:


Your definition of perfect requires reversing, SIN was created when exactly?

There was already a plan for the Devil to be evil, that is the only explanation.

There was no plan for Lucifer to be the devil. God gave everyone free will. God can’t force you if you decide to carry a gun and attempt to rob a bank if that’s what you want to do. But after you do what you do, there will be consequences which involve jail time. God didn’t make a plan for you to rob.

Use your senses and stop arguing rubbish.

JASONjnr:


Brothers you can't create people and give them free will and then sentenced them to eternal condemnation.....

Why put the things that will make many go against you in their daily lives? Why test your creation just to destroy them? Why create them in the first place?

Imagine God creating a sexy woman and I lust into looking and wishing to have sex with such a beautiful lady and then God condemns me? And if I stay away from sex I got prostrate disease and suffer......

I get your point, nothing happened without the knowledge of God , Before we were born he knows, he know our beginning and our end...wat that guy is trying to say is that God give us choice to choose between good and evil, anyone you choose there is a reward to them..from my understanding God knows ur choice already but he allows to play it so that u will be a witness for the reward he gives u..To me all sins is not hell bound...But there will some kind of punishment for sin.. But total condemnation No..He created us and He loves us to an extent that he will not condemned us to hell...He alone knows how created our soul, May be just like bread where some comes burnt and some comes out fresh..So the soul some good, and some evil..So those that comes evil will be destroyed....But good souls inside flesh will be tempted to sin..but His grace abound .

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JASONjnr:


Let me tell you..... People can pretend to be near-perfect but you can't tell what's in their thoughts....


That's why Jesus said that the moment you think about it, you have already committed sin.

Point is, you can't assume people are perfect or near perfect because you read it in the Bible..... The bible was designed to tell stories that will make us live the life that God wants us to live but in-between the stories, some stories about the individuals where not categorically stated ...

In the same Bible, the bible advocated for sins like someone taking another man's wife and sending the husband to the warfront to die while he was praised and blessed..... Yet such people will make heaven be8the bible speak of them....

You could be right. However, the bible didn't state they were imperfect either. Prophet Isaiah for one included his criticisms and the vain thoughts and speeches he had had in his submission.

Then later, at some night, he dreamt of Gd asking who they would send on mission, he volunteered, etcetera, confessed that he was a man of blemishes and may not be worthy, and Gd cleaned him.

You're correct, no one knows the absolute in-between, but the writing of Isaiah shows he was a man of a certain degree of vanities, knew that, and was cleaned, and could be further assumed that he lived a perfect man according to Gd's lack of sin standard thereafter. Plus, they often atoned for their sins too.

You're correct in your submission, however, still, the narration of Isaiah shows man is capable of a Gd acceptable degree of perfection.

AbuTwins:


Based on this, why did God create the devil to destroy His plan?

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AbuTwins:
God gave Adam a woman and God gave David many women!
And gave Solomon many many many women
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No be same God?

If you say Jesus is god, did you mean he was the one who gave Adam a woman. And God who has that power later came in human form to clear human sins. Why didn't he kill Satan instead, is Satan more powerful? And he felt the pain when he was being crucified by mere humans. Like Christianity is one very funny religion. It requires a special brainwash to be followed.

Expanse2020:

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The devil didn't destroyed God plan, Gods knows the devil will definitely tempt evil and she will fall, God wants man to be a witness for their short coming and shod know that He God can make all things right...He knows wat he created and how our behavior is, and the best way is for him to allow both good and bad scenarios to play out to teem us...He wants us to live and make choices not like Robert which he has the power to ...we are his image just as he knows good and bad..but His holiness overcome evil. But for us we need his presence...

temiflex01:


A foolish man question. Is sin a creation or an action? did God created fighting

Wow! I love this your response and it means a lot to me.

You just gave a perfect answer to the question.

SIN is an action and not a creation, this is very correct statement, let's all take note.

Definition of sin is disobedient to God's word.

More wisdom to you, amen.

molydonhenry:

Agreed! But isn't God the all knowing? Before I form thee i knew thee. So he knew the angel lucifer will become Satan yet he went ahead to create him

Deut 30:15:... behold I set before you this day life and good, death and evil.

God will not force you to choose good. He has given you the free will to choose between good and evil.

How is it God's fault that you have chosen evil?

AbuTwins:


Based on this, why did God create the devil to destroy His plan?

everything doesn't make sense

OneOnland:

You could be right. However, the bible didn't state they were imperfect either. Prophet Isaiah for one included his criticisms and the vain thoughts and speeches he had had in his submission.

Then later, at some night, he dreamt of Gd asking who they would send on mission, he volunteered, etcetera, confessed that he was a man of blemishes and may not be worthy, and Gd cleaned him.

You're correct, no one knows the absolute in-between, but the writing of Isaiah shows he was a man of a certain degree of vanities, knew that, and was cleaned, and could be further assumed that he lived a perfect man according to Gd's lack of sin standard thereafter. Plus, they often atoned for their sins too.

You're correct in your submission, however, still, the narration of Isaiah shows man is capable of a Gd acceptable degree of perfection.

Again, after Isaiah was cleansed, was he given the power to be godly and angelic? Because the same is what we're to experience today that Jesus Christ died for your sins..... Which means that we are cleaned from whatever sin.... However, w are still sinners and thinks evil....

psalmistkakah:

I get your point, nothing happened without the knowledge of God , Before we were born he knows, he know our beginning and our end...wat that guy is trying to say is that God give us choice to choose between good and evil, anyone you choose there is a reward to them..from my understanding God knows ur choice already but he allows to play it so that u will be a witness for the reward he gives u..To me all sins is not hell bound...But there will some kind of punishment for sin.. But total condemnation No..He created us and He loves us to an extent that he will not condemned us to hell...He alone knows how created our soul, May be just like bread where some comes burnt and some comes out fresh..So the soul some good, and some evil..So those that comes evil will be destroyed....But good souls inside flesh will be tempted to sin..but His grace abound .

If God knows the beginning and the end of our lives and he knows that the people he created nearly all of them will sin, why keep creating us to keep sinning to be condemned?

You as a person, if you know that tomorrow morning, you will be deceased if you get into banter with your neighbour and it will be just a little argument that will degenerate into dead ..... Will you continue to argue with your neighbour?

Antichristian2:
God gave Adam one but gave David many!

Was the situation the same?
Sometimes I ignore you people when you ask questions not really because you want to learn but you're looking for fault and that's the Bible say the message of that cross are foolishness to them that are of the world.

The first scenerio was the creation of God. He literally gave Eve to Adam. The second was the choice and desire of men. He allowed them face the consequences of their action.

If you choose to marry 1000 wives, God won't kill you, even if it was not his original desire for you.

JASONjnr:


[/b]Brothers you can't create people and give them free will and then sentenced them to eternal condemnation.[b]

Why put the things that will make many go against you in their daily lives? Why test your creation just to destroy them? Why create them in the first place?

Imagine God creating a sexy woman and I lust into looking and wishing to have sex with such a beautiful lady and then God condemns me? And if I stay away from sex I got prostrate disease and suffer......

Never even thought about that. That's astonishing.

judatech:


Who is attempting this question?
I dey wait o!

Sir, answer to question number 1

SIN is disobedient to God's word.

So, sin is an action not a creation.

So, the first being that commit this action is a Lucifer ( now the devil )

Therefore God doesn't create sin.

Answer to question number 2.

God only create spirit being and human being.

So, these beings are now the one committing the action of SIN.

Therefore, God create everything but the action ( disobedient to God's word ) which is SIN comes from the being that God created.

Thanks and God bless you!

OKOATA:
Never even thought about that. That's astonishing.

Exactly.....

molydonhenry:

Agreed! But isn't God the all knowing? Before I form thee i knew thee. So he knew the angel lucifer will become Satan yet he went ahead to create him

Oya go and beat God now. Shebi before God created you he knew that you will ask this foolish question on a forum called nairaland yet he still created and wakes you up every morning. The question is why? Because he is hoping that you’ll one day have understanding.

JASONjnr:


Again, after Isaiah was cleansed, was he given the power to be godly and angelic? Because the same is what we're to experience today that Jesus Christ died for your sins..... Which means that we are cleaned from whatever sin.... However, w are still sinners and thinks evil....

Correction: you think evil. You don't know what I think, or everyone in the world.

Jesus died for your own sins.

I'd atone for whatever sins I may have.

You know yourself, you don't know me, nor do you know every other person. And reason I keep on saying, don't misery love company everyone up. Examples are prophets who strived to live correctly by Gd despite their surroundings that signalled them to do otherwise. "You steal, all your friends steal doesn't mean every human steal or stole, or gives you the justification to continue stealing". You know yourself, stick to that. Only Gd is supreme, and that's all. Thanks.

Yinka4040:


Sir, answer to question number 1

SIN is disobedient to God's word.

So, sin is an action not a creation.

So, the first being that commit this action is a Lucifer ( now the devil )

Therefore God doesn't create sin.

Answer to question number 2.

God only create spirit being and human being.

So, these beings are now the one committing the action of SIN.

Therefore, God create everything but the action ( disobedient to God's word ) which is SIN comes from the being that God created.

Thanks and God bless you!

Why is God testing his creation?

If he's perfect and created man in his own image.... Why test us to condemn us?

He knows your beginning and your ending..... He knows you will fail the test, but he keeps testing you regardless..... Does that make sense to you?

OneOnland:

Correction: you think evil. You don't know what I think, or everyone in the world.

Jesus died for your own sins.

I'd atone for whatever sins I may have.

You know yourself, you don't know me, nor do you know every other person. And reason I keep on saying, don't misery love company everyone up. Examples are prophets who strived to live correctly by Gd despite their surroundings that signalled them to do otherwise. "You steal, all your friends steal doesn't mean every human steal or stole, or gives you the justification to continue stealing". You know yourself, stick to that. Only Gd is supreme, and that's all. Thanks.

You are a liar and I can tell you that you are a sinner....

I speak for humans...... And I know that the worse is a Nigerian.....

You have diets in your heart.... Whether you open up or not ...

The fact that you feel you alone can conceal your thoughts to not being evil or sinning makes you a sinner..... And makes you even close to being condemn by the God who created you