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Everything we experience in any incarnation is judgment debt, and a result of the rule of cause and effect, there are no outliers, there are no coincidences, there are no happenstances, God does not play dice and he definitely does not do Russian roulette.

All our actions, whether righteous or not, have results and consequences

Psalm 145:17
King James Version
17 The Lord is righteous in all his ways, and holy in all his works.

Everyman's righteousness is for his own personal good, it will help you. Everyman's holiness is for their personal karmic wellbeing, it will help you. Making a deliberate decision to avoid sin helps to avoid karmic debt loads that weigh down the soul and which you must be repaid n this present incarnation or when you come back.

1 Timothy 5:23-24
King James Version
23 Drink no longer water, but use a little wine for thy stomach's sake and thine often infirmities.
24 Some men's sins are open beforehand, going before to judgment; and some men they follow after.

Paul is telling Timothy that his often infirmities are due to his sins.

Some people receive the effects of their sins in this present incarnation, while others receive theirs when they come back, there is no unrighteousness with the LORD, everyman gets what they deserve from him.

Psalm 92:15
King James Version
15 To shew that the Lord is upright: he is my rock, and there is no unrighteousness in him.

Galatians 5:19-21
King James Version
19 Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,
20 Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies,
21 Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.

The works of the flesh will be recompensed in the flesh.

These works war against the soul, they weigh it down, they are the antithesis of genuine spirituality, and as a man cannot serve two masters equally, so it is with fleshly lusts and loving to do the will of God. A soul that is distracted by fleshly lusts will find it difficult to connect with God

1 Peter 2:11-12
King James Version
11 Dearly beloved, I beseech you as strangers and pilgrims, abstain from fleshly lusts, which war against the soul;
12 Having your conversation honest among the Gentiles: that, whereas they speak against you as evildoers, they may by your good works, which they shall behold, glorify God in the day of visitation.

I have always said it here that judgement takes place on earth. We are here because we failed in our last incarnation.

sonmvayina:
I have always said it here that judgement takes place on earth. We are here because we failed in our last incarnation.

Failed what incarnation?

My friend if you don’t want to reincarnate, you can refuse to do so. Nobody forces you to incarnate.

There are trillions of souls on the Other Side, most of whom don’t incarnate into these lower vibrational dimensions like our visible Earth.

The ones who do, ie us, are regarded as HEROES when we return back.

It is YOU as the soul, who decides to reincarnate, to make amends, or learn, or teach.

Because you are not observing it from your Earth human perspective, but from your Higher Self, and full awareness of what it’s all about, etc etc, your thinking will be different there than here.

Topman7:


Failed what incarnation?

My friend if you don’t want to reincarnate, you can refuse to do so. Nobody forces you to incarnate.

There are trillions of souls on the Other Side, most of whom don’t incarnate into these lower vibrational dimensions like our visible Earth.

The ones who do, ie us, are regarded as HEROES when we return back.

It is YOU as the soul, who decides to reincarnate, to make amends, or learn, or teach.

Because you are not observing it from your Earth human perspective, but from your Higher Self, and full awareness of what it’s all about, etc etc, your thinking will be different there than here.

You will keep coming here if you have not fulfilled your purpose and atoned for your karma. That's why you have to do good to lighten yourself. Our souls are actually weighed against a feather, if the feather weighes higher your are moving on..if not, you are coming back here...(Figuratively though.) Done by Anubis

sonmvayina:


You will keep coming here if you have not fulfilled your purpose and atoned for your karma. That's why you have to do good to lighten yourself. Our souls are actually weighed against a feather, if the feather weighes higher your are moving on..if not, you are coming back here...(Figuratively though.) Done by Anubis

You just have a mere shadow of knowledge, you're not entirely knowledgeable in this matters. This earth is the grounds for everything- heaven and hell, judgment, punishment, enjoyment. The sins of past life are recompensed in a new incarnation, the good deeds of a past life are recompensed in a new incarnation, but some are lucky, some have their karma following them immediately in this present life and all sins fully expiated before they die and so they reincarnate into an heavenly state.

Topman7:


Failed what incarnation?

My friend if you don’t want to reincarnate, you can refuse to do so. Nobody forces you to incarnate.

There are trillions of souls on the Other Side, most of whom don’t incarnate into these lower vibrational dimensions like our visible Earth.

The ones who do, ie us, are regarded as HEROES when we return back.

It is YOU as the soul, who decides to reincarnate, to make amends, or learn, or teach.

Because you are not observing it from your Earth human perspective, but from your Higher Self, and full awareness of what it’s all about, etc etc, your thinking will be different there than here.

Every soul that God created incarnates. Every single soul goes and comes back

MrPresident1:


You just have a mere shadow of knowledge, you're not entirely knowledgeable in this matters. This earth is the grounds for everything- heaven and hell, judgment, punishment, enjoyment. The sins of past life are recompensed in a new incarnation, the good deeds of a past life are recompensed in a new incarnation, but some are lucky, some have their karma following them immediately in thisnoresent life and all sins fully expiated before they die and so they reincarnate into an heavenly state.

What did you say....that I did not say??

Many things. There is no contiguity between us.

sonmvayina:


What did you say....that I did not say??

MrPresident1:
Many things. There is no contiguity between us.

Expanciate please...

Ezekiel 18:20
The soul that sinneth, it shall die. The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father, neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son: the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him.

Sin separates the soul from God, it weakens the spirit. Soul death means separation from God. A soul separated from God is a dead soul and soulless and will dwell in hell.

A dead soul in a living body is a carcase of a body and is in hell

MrPresident1:
Ezekiel 18:20
The soul that sinneth, it shall die. The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father, neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son: the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him.

Sin separates the soul from God, it weakens the spirit. Soul death means separation from God. A soul separated from God is a dead soul and soulless and will dwell in hell.

A dead soul in a living body is a carcase of a body and is in hell

bull shit squared.

how can GOD be separated from GOD? Does it make any sense?

we are the forma through which GOD experiences the universe.
both good and evil is the property of God.

there is nothing like hell.
when a soul fails to fulfill the reason for its incarnation, it comes back again and again....

sonmvayina:


bull shit squared.

how can GOD be separated from GOD? Does it make any sense?

we are the forma through which GOD experiences the universe.
both good and evil is the property of God.

there is nothing like hell.
when a soul fails to fulfill the reason for its incarnation, it comes back again and again....

Let me get you straight 🤔,God doesn't fulfil his purpose so he reincarnates again and again? 🤔

You make Patrick star wiser than this your God?

After all, is it not God that is working through you?
How then can he fail, to fulfill his own purpose? 🤔

The true face of GOD (I AM GOD same as you) doesn't see good or bad.
As they are both contructs of the physical material universe.

The polarity and illusion of chaos and order happens only on the physical reality.

He who seats in heaven laughs. As being God is being everything all at once, eternally everything and every possibility.

There is no sin or holiness in God. There is only experiences riding into infinity.

GOD (Me and You) got bored of being too powerful, we invented limitations like death, sickness, worry, anxiety, sadness, joy, to experience a pocket universe.

There is no separation in GOD, There is only GOD.

RED and BLUE are not enemies, They are one.
The Unity of all things both "GOOD" and "BAD"

ANCESTORIAL8:
The true face of GOD (I AM GOD same as you) doesn't see good or bad.
As they are both contructs of the physical material universe.

The polarity and illusion of chaos and order happens only on the physical reality.

He who seats in heaven laughs. As being God is being everything all at once, eternally everything and every possibility.

There is no sin or holiness in God. There is only experiences riding into infinity.

GOD (Me and You) got bored of being too powerful, we invented limitations like death, sickness, worry, anxiety, sadness, joy, to experience a pocket universe.

There is no separation in GOD, There is only GOD.

RED and BLUE are not enemies, They are one.
The Unity of all things both "GOOD" and "BAD"

Why then should anyone bother about the state of the world?
When after all, it's God(Me and You) that's responsible!

Due to our boredom, we(God) gave Tinubu(God) to deal suffering and waste lives(God) with hunger!

This your God sounds very interesting 🤔
Here I was thinking how somvayina's God was as dumb as a Rock, then your God comes along🤨!!!

Gabrielshow24:

Why then should anyone bother about the state of the world?
When after all, it's God(Me and You) that's responsible!

Due to our boredom, we(God) gave Tinubu(God) to deal suffering and waste lives(God) with hunger!

This your God sounds very interesting 🤔
Here I was thinking how somvayina's God was as dumb as a Rock, then your God comes along🤨!!!

You can still sound intelligent and be less patronizing don't you think ?

Firstly: GODs control their own reality, the reason why things you call EVIL prevail in any sphere is because the Will of the GOOD GODs are less structured to go toe to toe with the EVIL GODs, this in itself is an illusion too.

They know that evil comes from ignorance.
Only by curing ignorance, evil will remain.

Because, a GOD doesn't work with time or anything in space, they can be anything and be anyone, experience any reality with a thought.

THEY DO NOT CARE What happens here.

GODS are above every system of this world.

They do as they please.

ANCESTORIAL8:


You can still sound intelligent and be less patronizing don't you think ?

Firstly: GODs control their own reality, the reason why things you call EVIL prevail in any sphere is because the Will of the GOOD GODs are less structured to go toe to toe with the EVIL GODs, this in itself is an illusion too.

They know that evil comes from ignorance.
Only by curing ignorance, evil will remain.

Because, a GOD doesn't work with time or anything in space, they can be anything and be anyone, experience any reality with a thought.

THEY DO NOT CARE What happens here.

GODS are above every system of this world.

They do as they please.

Your Gods are killed off, dieing from hunger🤧!

Why are the good Godz not structured?🤔

What say you? Are they not above the system of this world🤔?

Indeed, wasn't it also your Gods that setup the system of this world? 🤔

If all this are illusions, what then is real? 🤨
After all, it could be you imagining all this as a way to escape reality!

Lastly, if you ,a God, are subject to time and space; I beg to differ regarding your Allusions as to how your God doesn't work with time and space 🤧!

Or are we not Gods again?🤔

Gabrielshow24:

Your Gods are killed off, dieing from hunger🤧!

Why are the good Godz not structured?🤔

What say you? Are they not above the system of this world🤔?

Indeed, wasn't it also your Gods that setup the system of this world? 🤔

If all this are illusions, what then is real? 🤨
After all, it could be you imagining all this as a way to escape reality!

Lastly, if you ,a God, are subject to time and space; I beg to differ regarding your Allusions as to how your God doesn't work with time and space 🤧!

Or are we not Gods again?🤔

Exactly my brother, you just confirmed my point.

Jesus said people perish because the lacked knowledge.

Ignorance to the power at work in you.

You can stop wars entirely by everyone agreeing to stop killing ourselves or being greedy with resources.

Or, we can delegate the strongest with the will of violence to protect the interest that benefits and lives and well being of the many.

Instead resources, Man power and information dwells with he who serves his own interest to the detriment of the majority who desire better well-being.

There's no savior coming to save anyone, your destiny is in your hands.

It like a billyonaire with amnesia, he forgot his name, forgot his family, left his entire way of living then ventured into a foreign country and started begging for alms from strangers.

He will survive by the bread that falls from the table of children, but the true solution to his problems is to wake up and yourself.

ANCESTORIAL8:


Exactly my brother, you just confirmed my point.

Jesus said people perish because the lacked knowledge.

Ignorance to the power at work in you.

You can stop wars entirely by everyone agreeing to stop killing ourselves or being greedy with resources.

Or, we can delegate the strongest with the will of violence to protect the interest that benefits and lives and well being of the many.

Instead resources, Man power and information dwells with he who serves his own interest to the detriment of the majority who desire better well-being.

There's no savior coming to save anyone, your destiny is in your hands.

It like a billyonaire with amnesia, he forgot his name, forgot his family, left his entire way of living then ventured into a foreign country and started begging for alms from strangers.

He will survive by the bread that falls from the table of children, but the true solution to his problems is to wake up and yourself.

Your exegesis is irrelevant as it doesn't relate to the matter at hand!!!

Because according to you, you and I are Gods!!!

And there's nothing Like Good and Bad🤨.
Why then are you now saying it's ignorance? after all you made allusions that Gods are above the system they made?🤨

Are your Gods not free to exercise their own right?
After all what difference does it make whether it be chaos or order!
It's out of boredom and consequences such as "Good and Evil" are void!!!

Indirectly, no one is acting out of ignorance but rather out of his/her will or Godship🤔!!!

You make your God even more dumber than somvayina's own🤨.

Because your Gods are nothing but men!!!
And they shall die like men!!!

The people you call good are fearful, distrusting and are also focusing on the wrong things.

It's is much easily for evil doers to work together than good people.

It's the universe introducing chaos to every system.

You see a world with wars and famine, sickeness, disease and many other challenges that plagues the human race.

I see an opportunity for the world to create experiences that would rival fictional universes.

Only if we unite, share a common goal and share the vision as the collective.

If you can want it enough, you will have it.

You can do an experiment and ask a thousand persons what their plans in life is, seldom you hear someone mention world domination as their goal.

The God's do not desire freedom from oppression and the will to see it to fruition.

How then do you blame another Master of another universe why he didn't choose to conquer you and your territory.

The truth is that, true masters of this universe will give guidance to seekers of this informatio, but would rarely venture into another savior program for the next generation of mental slavery.

True masters, master time.
The physical reality isn't that important, we can still conquer it's entirety if we want it.

But that's too much stress from my part, the true solution is solving the problem of ignorance.

There is no better way to save the world, that it waking up to it's supreme consciousness.

"You don't give children's food to dogs"

Gabrielshow24:

Your exegesis is irrelevant as it doesn't relate to the matter at hand!!!

Because according to you, you and I are Gods!!!

And there's nothing Like Good and Bad🤨.
Why then are you now saying it's ignorance? after all you made allusions that Gods are above the system they made?🤨

Are your Gods not free to exercise their own right?
After all what difference does it make whether it be chaos or order!
It's out of boredom and consequences such as "Good and Evil" are void!!!

Indirectly, no one is acting out of ignorance but rather out of his/her will or Godship🤔!!!

You make your God even more dumber than somvayina's own🤨.

Because your Gods are nothing but men!!!
And they shall die like men!!!

There are several layers to these answers, I wouldn't bother, as I understand you don't allow your brain to read and process all that I have said.

You read to reply, no to understand.

It's a challenge sharing these things when you believe everything that doesn't align with your beliefs is nonsense.

This back and forth between us won't yield anything, if one of us is unable to listen to understand.

What we have in the world today are humans who have forgotten their identity totally.

These people are now slaves to the illusion of their own minds.

Good and bad are polarities that exist in the physical realm, only people who dwell in the flesh, experience the polarities.

Gods who have transcended the flesh, do not experience duality, good or bad.

There is only experiences.

ANCESTORIAL8:
The people you call good are fearful, distrusting and are also focusing on the wrong things.

It's is much easily for evil doers to work together than good people.

It's the universe introducing chaos to every system.

You see a world with wars and famine, sickeness, disease and many other challenges that plagues the human race.

I see an opportunity for the world to create experiences that would rival fictional universes.

Only if we unite, share a common goal and share the vision as the collective.

If you can want it enough, you will have it.

You can do an experiment and ask a thousand persons what their plans in life is, seldom you hear someone mention world domination as their goal.

The God's do not desire freedom from oppression and the will to see it to fruition.

How then do you blame another Master of another universe why he didn't choose to conquer you and your territory.

The truth is that, true masters of this universe will give guidance to seekers of this informatio, but would rarely venture into another savior program for the next generation of mental slavery.

True masters, master time.
The physical reality isn't that important, we can still conquer it's entirety if we want it.

But that's too much stress from my part, the true solution is solving the problem of ignorance.

There is no better way to save the world, that it waking up to it's supreme consciousness.

"You don't give children's food to dogs"

I have seen you love to commit motte and Bailey fallacy!
You think, I discuss with you the obvious effects of unity within the system!

But rather your impoverished thought system!
You failed to mention, what made your thoughts special!
You also claimed we were Gods then all over a sudden, you introduced another master from another universe🤨!

I ask you, is Time not a physical concept🤨?
How does all this substantiate that we are Gods?
It in no way provides any empirical proof!
If this is your treatise, then you are a long way off from getting your theory right🤔!

There can be no ignorance if all are Gods and are exercising their own will, some Gods chose to die from hunger while others vanquish all! 🤨

Hence the entire illusory "suffering" is intentional, after all it's a consequence of boredom!!!

The Gods are just having fun🧐!!!
So don't blame the Gods if they wish not to band together!!!
Everything is the works of their system and they are not bothered because they transcend this system!!! 🙃

Hence, God(you) are just overthinking 🙃.
You should in the fun👀

Gabrielshow24:

I have seen you love to commit motte and Bailey fallacy!
You think, I discuss with you the obvious effects of unity within the system!

But rather your impoverished thought system!
You failed to mention, what made your thoughts special!
You also claimed we were Gods then all over a sudden, you introduced another master from another universe🤨!

I ask you, is Time not a physical concept🤨?
How does all this substantiate that we are Gods?
It in no way provides any empirical proof!
If this is your treatise, then you are a long way off from getting your theory right🤔!

There can be no ignorance if all are Gods and are exercising their own will, some Gods chose to die from hunger while others vanquish all! 🤨

Hence the entire illusory "suffering" is intentional, after all it's a consequence of boredom!!!

The Gods are just having fun🧐!!!
So don't blame the Gods if they wish not to band together!!!
Everything is the works of their system and they are not bothered because they transcend this system!!! 🙃

Hence, God(you) are just overthinking 🙃.
You should in the fun👀

Again, you seem to think I said every God is aware of their power.

I made a clear distinction with the example of a billionaire.

I understand this is an attempt to sound intelligent and a type of gotcha moment.

But like I said before, you have not a taken some time to understand what I explained earlier.

If you did understand, you won't say all these.

Understand first, then secondly, you can still write without the patronizing attempts and the display of ego.

You can do better. Bye for now

ANCESTORIAL8:


There are several layers to these answers, I wouldn't bother, as I understand you don't allow your brain to read and process all that I have said.

You read to reply, no to understand.

It's a challenge sharing these things when you believe everything that doesn't align with your beliefs is nonsense.

This back and forth between us won't yield anything, if one of us is unable to listen to understand.

What we have in the world today are humans who have forgotten their identity totally.

These people are now slaves to the illusion of their own minds.

Good and bad are polarities that exist in the physical realm, only people who dwell in the flesh, experience the polarities.

Gods who have transcended the flesh, do not experience duality, good or bad.

There is only experiences.

As usual, motte and Bailey fallacy!
You seem to think this is my bone of contention, no! It's your underlining thought system!

And the implications of your statements are rather unfortunate!

ANCESTORIAL8:


Again, you seem to think I said every God is aware of their power.

I made a clear distinction with the example of a billionaire.

I understand this is an attempt to sound intelligent and a type of gotcha moment.

But like I said before, you have not a taken some time to understand what I explained earlier.

If you did understand, you won't say all these.

Understand first, then secondly, you can still write without the patronizing attempts and the display of ego.

You can do better. Bye for now

If I may ask, how do you determine if your Gods are aware of their powers? 🤨

What are the signs? 👀

And what if billions are already aware? 👀
But still chose to exercise their freewill after all they are above this system and there is nothing such as Good and Evil, only Experiences🤧.

How then can a man awake or be awakened to his supposed forgotten reality of "I AM"

ANCESTORIAL8:


Exactly my brother, you just confirmed my point.

Jesus said people perish because the lacked knowledge.

Ignorance to the power at work in you.

You can stop wars entirely by everyone agreeing to stop killing ourselves or being greedy with resources.

Or, we can delegate the strongest with the will of violence to protect the interest that benefits and lives and well being of the many.

Instead resources, Man power and information dwells with he who serves his own interest to the detriment of the majority who desire better well-being.

There's no savior coming to save anyone, your destiny is in your hands.

It like a billyonaire with amnesia, he forgot his name, forgot his family, left his entire way of living then ventured into a foreign country and started begging for alms from strangers.

He will survive by the bread that falls from the table of children, but the true solution to his problems is to wake up and yourself.

Archtype:
How then can a man awake or be awakened to his supposed forgotten reality of "I AM"

The first step is ing who you are, by allowing new knowledge teach you a new way of thinking.

Answers will come from within, you would need to be triggered in the right direction by other sparks of consciousness that has attained these levels.

They left clear instructions in books to help you navigate the infinite realities.

If you're seeking answers sincerely, the answer will come to you naturally.

I would suggest you read these books;

1. The Kybalion by Three Initiates

2. Mind Is The Master by James Allen

3. The Holographic Universe by Michael Talbot

4. The Book of Wisdom by Harry B. Joseph

5. The Universal One by Walter Russell

ANCESTORIAL8:


The first step is ing who you are, by allowing new knowledge teach you a new way of thinking.

Answers will come from within, you would need to be triggered in the right direction by other sparks of consciousness that has attained these levels.

They left clear instructions in books to help you navigate the infinite realities.

If you're seeking answers sincerely, the answer will come to you naturally.

I would suggest you read these books;

1. The Kybalion by Three Initiates

2. Mind Is The Master by James Allen

3. The Holographic Universe by Michael Talbot

4. The Book of Wisdom by Harry B. Joseph

5. The Universal One by Walter Russell

Thanks, I really appreciate

Archtype:
Thanks, I really appreciate

You're welcome bro.

I would suggest you read the Kybalion first and also advice you do not rush through the book.

Everything you will read in these materials were designed to unveil the realities that have always been here, but unseen by the unenlightened mind.

Things to note;

1. Do not approach these materials with an objective image of what you think the universe is, you will soon find out how wrong you were if you keep and open mind.

2. Allow yourself to digest the materials.

3. The instinct of fighting off other opinions apart from the one you were indoctrinated with is trap to distract you away from things that would greatly improve your life.

4. There is nothing bad in seeking knowledge. Do not let the fear of the unknown deter you from searching for truth.

5. True wisdom is knowing you know nothing.

The essence of your incarnation is to obey the law. In every incarnation one pays for the sins of past life. Some people are lucky, their sins follow them in this life proceeding them in this life, for some the follow after, that is the disastrous one, a soul incarnates as a baby and thinks they are all fresh and sinless, then they start suffering and start blaming God, God is not unrighteous.

Ecclesiastes 12:13
Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man.

The whole duty of man is to fear God. After death, once to die, judgment follows

Hebrews 9:27
And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment: