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To me Muslim Fast is what can be termed as 1:0:1
Which means that

Food in the Morning 5-am --------1
Zero food in the Afternoon -------0
Food in the Evening 6/7pm---------1

As far as I know, in Nigeria that is what we call 2 square meal. So how did we term 2 square meal as a fast when poverty has so ravaged most home in Tinubu regime that you must be privileged to have 2 square meal...Cos most home even employ 001 or 100 and dint term it fast which would have been a harder fast than the Muslims 101...
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I need explanation for why Muslim think eatim in the morning and evening while skipping afternoon meal is therefore a fast to make Merry about and beat anyone sighted eating during the day while they are waiting for their evening meal..
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PS: I even heard that many Muslim even sneak during afternoon into secret canteens to go shove something into their throat even before official time to break fast. Who are we even deceiving in this country in the name of religion. Note: I heard this from a Christian Yoruba food seller who has a lot of evidence against Muslim sneaking to buy food from her during the day. May God help our Muslim brothers though

I think you are the one who doesn't understand what a fast is.

Let me put it as simple as possible with a very good example...

What you eat in the morning is called "breakfast".
It means you are breaking a fast in the morning, but you had dinner the previous night.
The fast is from sun rise to sunset.

So also you are fasting at night from sunset to sunrise that's why what you eat at dawn in called break fast.

Your understanding of what a fast is is not the universally accepted understanding....

Some people break their fast at 12pm and they get the result they want, would you say they didn't fast?

Fast is abstinence from food to pray and seek God. There is no define time for how long you should abstain from food.
So if a man abstains for 6 hours he would be right.

EXOUSIAng:
I think you are the one who doesn't understand what a fast is.

Let me put it as simple as possible with a very good example...

What you eat in the morning is called "breakfast".
It means you are breaking a fast in the morning, but you had dinner the previous night.
The fast is from sun rise to sunset.

So also you are fasting at night from sunset to sunrise that's why what you eat at dawn in called break fast.

Your understanding of what a fast is is not the universally accepted understanding....

Some people break their fast at 12pm and they get the result they want, would you say they didn't fast?

Fast is abstinence from food to pray and seek God. There is no define time for how long you should abstain from food.
So if a man abstains for 6 hours he would be right.

Are you a Muslim?🤷🏼

Botragelad:

Are you a Muslim?🤷🏼

I am a religious man.
I don't belong to a religion.
I am sure I have read and understood the Quran and Hadith more than many Muslims, the same way I have dug deep into the Bible than most christian, swam deep into Judaism, Hindu even the new ones like dudeiam.
Our African traditional religions are the most practical and Goldeen in my study thus far

EXOUSIAng:

I am a religious man.
I don't belong to a religion.
I am sure I have read and understood the Quran and Hadith more than many Muslims, the same way I have dug deep into the Bible than most christian, swam deep into Judaism, Hindu even the new ones like dudeiam.
Our African traditional religions are the most practical and Goldeen in my study thus far

If you don't belong to a religion, how come you are religious?

Truthseeker10:

If you don't belong to a religion, how come you are religious?

Being a religious man is believing in God and the powers that control life. It doesn't mean you belong to a religion.
You can ask Google who a religious man is.
Or better still ask Merriam Webster Dictionary who a religious person is.

Truthseeker10:

If you don't belong to a religion, how come you are religious?

Na Loud inspire that post.

Zonefree:

Na Loud inspire that post.

🤣🤣🤣

EXOUSIAng:

Being a religious man is believing in God and the powers that control life. It doesn't mean you belong to a religion.
You can ask Google who a religious man is.
Or better still ask Merriam Webster Dictionary who a religious person is.

So can religion be defined as the belief in God and the powers that control life?

Truthseeker10:

So can religion be defined as the belief in God and the powers that control life?

Yes.

The different religious sects.
The christians.
Muslims
Ogun,
Sango
Amadioha etc all believe in the supreme God, who controls life, they only do it through different means.
Same believe in same God different ways

That's why the Igbos have all these deities but they still have Chukwu who is the supreme God.
The Yorubas also have sango, Ogun, etc but they all believe in the God called Eledumare, who is the supreme God in their tongue.
Every culture globally has a name for the supreme God.
Even the Christians believe in Christ just as a Sango worshiper believes in Sango but the Christains also worship who the White man calls the Almighty God, so Jesus is a deity just the same way Ogun is a deity to Ogun worshipers, Christ is deity to Christains.

A muslim fast is supposed to be 000 000 000 for good three days..

Then break d fast the 4th day

EXOUSIAng:


Yes.

The different religious sects.
The christians.
Muslims
Ogun,
Sango
Amadioha etc all believe in the supreme God, who controls life, they only do it through different means.
Same believe in same God different ways

So if I say that you belong to a religion that believes in God and the powers that control life? Am I correct?

Truthseeker10:

So if I say that you belong to a religion that believes in God and the powers that control life? Am I correct?

Yes.
Every religion believes in the God and the powers that control life.

They just express themselves through different means.

The Muslims call him Allah
In Judaism he is called Yahwe.
Same God different pathways to reach Him.


Notice that every religion believes in fasting.
In every religion they will tell you abstain from sex when you want to get serious spiritually.
And many more, it's because it's the same God

Also notice that every religion believes in blood...

Cains sacrifice was rejected because it didn't have blood.
Go through your Bible, nobody offered fruits or vegetables as sacrifice after cain.
Blood

EXOUSIAng:

Yes.
Every religion believes in the God and the powers that control life.

So if you agree that you belong to a religion if you believe in God and the powers that control life, is your statement in bold below correct?

EXOUSIAng:

I am a religious man.
I don't belong to a religion.
I am sure I have read and understood the Quran and Hadith more than many Muslims, the same way I have dug deep into the Bible than most christian, swam deep into Judaism, Hindu even the new ones like dudeiam.
Our African traditional religions are the most practical and Goldeen in my study thus far

Truthseeker10:

So if you agree that you belong to a religion if you believe in God and the powers that control life, is your statement in bold below correct?

I never said I belonged to a religion.

Belonging to a religion and being a religious man are two different things

EXOUSIAng:


I never said I belonged to a religion.

Belonging to a religion and being a religious man are two different things

Kindly look at the answer you gave to the question i asked in the screenshot below

Truthseeker10:

Kindly look at the answer you gave to the question i asked in the screenshot below

I know the answer I gave.
You question is "if"....
And the answer I gave is correct.
I think the problem is the the understanding of the difference between religion and religious...

You can believe in God and not belong to a particular religion.
I have friend who goes to mosque on Fridays, goes to church on Sundays, he never misses any traditional festival or sacrifices of the gods of his father's....

I know very few people with his level of spiritual intelligence.

I'm happy reasonable folks don't respond to stupid questions lately.

I want to suggest you eat anything, even a whole camel,5am,then eat nothing until 7pm and come tell us how it was.
This would be a first hand answer.

GOFRONT:
A muslim fast is supposed to be 000 000 000 for good three days..

Then break d fast the 4th day

This would have made better sense

Fasting in Islam involves abstaining from eating, drinking, and sexual intercourse from dawn until sunset. This practice is undertaken as an act of obedience to Allah's command and to seek His pleasure. The Prophet Muhammad emphasized the importance of maintaining integrity during fasting, stating that those who do not refrain from vain talk and lies while fasting have not truly fulfilled the fast. While individual interpretations of fasting may vary, the primary aim for Muslims is to achieve spiritual growth, self-discipline, and a closer connection to Allah through this sacred practice.

EXOUSIAng:


I never said I belonged to a religion.

Belonging to a religion and being a religious man are two different things

You are mixing it up. Belief in in God is called theism.
But if you say you're religious it means you align yourself with one of the many religions of the world.

Even if it's 1:1:1 e no concern you

Fasting is not just all about skipping meal.Fasting create a special bond between you and your creator.During fasting period, the fear of your creator make you abstain totally from bad things you do prior to that period.Ramadan place every human on the same pedestal, as rich as Dangote is,he will feel hunger like every poor man out in the street.

Usmanovic95:
Fasting is not just all about skipping meal.Fasting create a special bond between you and your creator.During fasting period, the fear of your creator make you abstain totally from bad things you do prior to that period.Ramadan place every human on the same pedestal, as rich as Dangote is,he will feel hunger like every poor man out in the street.

so one go back doing the bad things after the fasting period?

From what time to what time is fasting according to God?

EXOUSIAng:
➜I am a religious man. I don't belong to a religion. I am sure I have read and understood the Quran and Hadith more than many Muslims, the same way I have dug deep into the Bible than most christian, swam deep into Judaism, Hindu even the new ones like dudeiam. Our African traditional religions are the most practical and Goldeen in my study thus far

. That's an interesting claim you make- a very broad one, but interesting still! Care to tell us what aspects of African traditional religion you find most practical and golden? Also, feel free to touch on the aspect where you pretend all gods worshipped across all religions are the same.

LetLoveHeal2:
so one go back doing the bad things after the fasting period?

No human possess the attribute of perfection . The fear of his creator makes him abstain from it totally at that period.

Usmanovic95:
➜No human possess the attribute of perfection . The fear of his creator makes him abstain from it totally at that period.

Ah! That grand excuse used by all religious folks, "No human is perfect."

Kobojunkie:
Ah! That grand excuse used by all religious folks, "No human is perfect."

In all degree, human are created to be perfect or faultless. Do you have a contrary opinion to that?

SHALOM!

mamdanju:
Fasting in Islam involves abstaining from eating, drinking, and sexual intercourse from dawn until sunset. This practice is undertaken as an act of obedience to Allah's command and to seek His pleasure. The Prophet Muhammad emphasized the importance of maintaining integrity during fasting, stating that those who do not refrain from vain talk and lies while fasting have not truly fulfilled the fast. While individual interpretations of fasting may vary, the primary aim for Muslims is to achieve spiritual growth, self-discipline, and a closer connection to Allah through this sacred practice.

IT IS AN INSULT AGAINST THE WORSHIP OF YAHWEH GOD TO COMPARE THE FASTING OF MUSLIMS WITH THAT OF THE HEBREW PROPHETS!

(1) FASTING BY MOSES.

. EXODUS 34:27-35.

27. And The LORD Said unto Moses,

"Write thou these Words: for after the tenor of these Words I have made a Covenant with thee and with Israel."

28. And he was there with the LORD forty days and forty nights; he did neither eat bread, nor drink water. And He wrote upon the Tables The Words of the Covenant, The Ten Commandments.
29. And it came to , when Moses came down from mount Sinai
with the two Tables of Testimony in Moses' hand, when he came down from the mount, that Moses wist not that the skin of his face shone while he talked with Him.
30. And when Aaron and all the Children of Israel saw Moses,
behold, the skin of his face shone; and they were afraid to come nigh him.
31. And Moses called unto them; and Aaron and all the Rulers of the Congregation returned unto him: and Moses talked with them.
32. And afterward all the Children of Israel came nigh: and he gave them in Commandment all that The LORD had Spoken with him in mount Sinai.
33. And till Moses had done speaking with them, he put a vail on his face.
34. But when Moses went in before The LORD to speak with Him,
he took the vail off, until he came out. And he came out, and spake unto The Children of Israel that which he was Commanded.
35. And the Children of Israel saw the face of Moses, that the skin of Moses' face shone: and Moses put the vail upon his face again, until he went in to speak with Him.

I PRESUME THAT MOSES' FAST WAS SUPERNATURAL: THAT GOD ED OR SUSPENDED HIS BODILY FUNCTIONS.

It is marginally possible to go 40 days without eating or drinking: if one is an atmosphere where one can absorb one's minimum water requirement through the skin. Without water, the Kidneys become impaired, and Death usually occurs between 7-to-10 days.

There was a recent (2023) news report of a Pastor who tried to Fast for 40 days - who died on the 25^th day.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-64659798

Some lady died on the 23^rd day.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/39-old-pastor-died-trying-045331107.html

WICKED PEOPLE TELL ZEALOUS CHRISTIANS THAT FASTING CAN ONLY BE DONE WITHOUT DRINKING WATER.

This is literally murder. If they succeed in getting a Christian to kill themselves, they will probably be promoted in whatever secret society of evildoers they belong to.

(2) FASTING BY ESTHER.

. ESTHER 4:15-16.

15. Then Esther bade them return Mordecai this answer,

16. "Go, gather together all the Jews that are present in Shushan,
and fast ye for me,
and neither eat nor drink three days, night or day:
I also and my maidens will fast likewise;
and so will I go in unto the king,
which is not according to the law:
and if I perish, I perish."

(2) FASTING BY PROPHET ELIYAH.

. 1[sub]st[/sup] KINGS 19:5-8.

5. And as he lay and slept under a juniper tree,
behold, then an angel touched him,
and said unto him,

"Arise and eat."

6. And he looked, and, behold, there was a cake baken on the coals, and a cruse of water at his head. And he did eat and drink, and laid him down again.
7. And the Angel of The LORD came again the second time, and touched him, and said,

"Arise and eat; because the journey is too great for thee."

8. And he arose, and did eat and drink, and went in the strength of that meat forty days and forty nights unto Horeb the Mount of God.


(3) FASTING BY THE ASSYRIANS.

. JONAH 3:6-7.

6. For word came unto the king of Nineveh, and he arose from his throne, and he laid his robe from him, and covered him with sackcloth, and sat in ashes.
7. And he caused it to be proclaimed and published through Nineveh by the decree of the king and his nobles, saying,

"Let neither man nor beast, herd nor flock, taste any thing: let them not feed, nor drink water:
8. "But let man and beast be covered with sackcloth, and cry mightily unto God:
yea, let them turn every one from his evil way, and from the violence that is in their hands.
9. "Who can tell if God will turn and repent, and turn away from his fierce anger, that we perish not?"

(5) FASTING BY LORD YESHUA.

. MATTHEW 4:1-4.

]THEN was Jesus led up of The Spirit
into the wilderness to be tempted of The Devil.
2. And when he had fasted forty days and forty nights,
he was afterward an hungred.
3. And when The Tempter came to him,
he said,

"If thou be The Son of God,
Command that these stones be made bread."

4. But he Answered and Said,

"It is written,

'MAN SHALL NOT LIVE
BY BREAD ALONE,
BUT BY EVERY WORD
THAT PROCEEDETH
OUT OF THE MOUTH OF GOD.' "

The Words of God are indeed food- such that one literally does not need to eat nor drink- if one knows The Word of God.

The Words of God are living beings in their own right; they are sentient, and self-aware. They are packed with prodigious Spiritual Energy, and are the components of everything that exists. To be able to tap into the Words of God for sustenance is an advanced technique.

THERE WAS NOTHING SUPERNATURAL ABOUT LORD YESHUA'S FAST.

About the turn of the 20th Century, Atheistic colleagues of one Doctor Tanner grieved him by mocking The Bible, saying that it was ridiculous that Jesus of Nazareth could have Fasted in the wilderness for 40 days and 40 nights- and survived. They said that by that time, he would have been mad with the constant hunger, far too weak to even move, and should have died in that wilderness.

Christian Doctor Tanner pointed out that the Scripture said that he was only hungry after the 40 days and 40 nights of Fasting.

He proposed and experiment, whereby he would Fast for 40 days and 40 nights, while his colleagues should monitor him- and he would prove that such a fast is well withing the realm of Human capability. He predicted that rather than being weakened by the Fast, he would be at least as strong as he was before Fasting!

He proved all of those points.

[See: THE FASTING PRAYER, by Franklin Hall (1947).]

There are three levels of Fasting:

(1) FASTING 24-72 HOURS.

It takes 72 hours to deplete all the Glycogen (Glucose molecules held together by a lipid bond,) from the Muscles, Liver, and Bloodstream.

The biggest of Glucose in the whole body is the Brain. When Glucose is depleting from your Body, you will notice a change in the way you think. You will find that you will have to think about whether or not you think anything. You will find that your Brain is not what you have always thought it was. If you want to commit Sin, you will have to work very hard, to make yourself do Sin.

To be sure, no other Church would have told you that sinlessness is this easy.

The Church maintained a Psychological Stranglehold on Its , by forcing them to confess their Sins to a Priest.

If you didn't confess, you would be suspect! As a heretic.

Once you reach this state, you will start asking questions no Organized Church wants to hear.

It would inevitably dawn on you that your Church needs you far more than you need It.

Revolution.

Simple Solution: tell them nothing about Fasting.

(2) FASTING 96-288 HOURS.

After 72 hours of Fasting, you no longer feel hungry.

If no one who has let you know that they Fasted for prolonged periods has also told you that, I must tell you something extremely important: YOU ARE NOT ENTITLED TO GO STRANGULATE THEM. Kindly restrain those your "Fists of Fury!" I say this, not because I care about the continued undeserved well-being of whoever deceived you about how agonizing Fasting is- but if there is any Body Count, I will surely be included in the Police Case as a co-suspect or something.

The Gastric Juice that causes you to feel hunger pains will cease to be produced, so that you will not be hungry for the duration of the Fast.

Since all the food in the Stomach and Intestines has surely been digested, and there is no more Glycogen hanging around, the Brain authorizes the release of enzymes that will convert the fat reserve into fuel. This happens very slowly, so that you will not have a lot of energy immediately for boisterous activities- like fighting, sex, and sports. There is a possibility that you can starve vital organs of energy, by too strenuous an activity. That can cause them to fail, which will kill you without immediate medical treatment.

An unexpected complication of the first week of Fasting is that when the Fat of the Body breaks down, toxic substances bonded to the fat, to protect the Body are released into the Bloodstream. This, on average, is usually enough Good Stuff to kill you in about 7-to-10 days.

To prevent this, you simply need to drink at least 1.25 litres of fresh water each and every day- whether you feel thirsty or not!

This enables you you exhale, spit, sweat, urinate, and defecate these poisons from your body.

After 7 days, the Body should have shed much of its backlog of toxic substances it has needed to get rid of for years, but could not, because it had to digest meals for you. You will stop feeling weak because you are not eating, and flooding your body with excessive, cheap, and easy energy. Your strength will begin to return to normal- or stronger. Again, petty-minded people who have Fasted, don't tell those who have never Fasted that they are not suffering. At restrained exertion levels, you should lose weight at 1lbs/day.

(3) FASTING 312-960 HOURS.

You will feel as comfortable as if you had your lunch some hours back, but are not quite hungry for dinner.

When you begin to feel hungry again- such that even boot leather begins looking like juicy ponmo- it is time to end the fast.

There are fats in your Body that cannot be used, until you have Fasted for 90 days. In the meantime, the Body will release enzymes to begin digesting its Protein base. This is not a good thing. Death is imminent. The good news is that abnormal tissues such as scars, keloids, tumours, and cancers get cannibalized first, converted into food and fuel for their own destruction, and then replaced with normal tissue.

BREAKING THE FASTS.

The procedure for breaking Fasts is irksome- after breaking the Fast you will want to eat anything and everything. THAT MUST NEVER HAPPEN!

The Internal Organs are in minimal functioning mode, and are not ready to start handling a normal metabolism again.

Modern Doctors now know that the organs can be fine-tuned through diet, and some teach this as if they are the sole discoverers, whereas my last Christian teacher, FRANKLIN HALL was teaching this some 70 years ago.

[See: THE HORMONE-RESET DIET: Heal your Metabolism to lose 15lbs in 21 days, by Sara Gottfried (2015).

If you are really talented, you can screw up your metabolism after Fasting just 24 hours.

But if you have Fasted more than 72 hours, you have to know what you are doing, before you try to break the Fast!

The organs are like gears- they have to operate sequentially, or you are going to mess up your Body.

(Followers of Tuberculosis Joshua know what I'm talking about!)

After 72 hours without food, the Bacteria in your Body die out, like you took a Broad-Spectrum Antibiotic.

There are Bacteria that you need, in order to form a carpeting layer that harmful Bacteria, Fungi, and Viruses cannot penetrate.

To rebuild those useful Bacteria, break your Fast with nothing different than 50% diluted Citrus Juice. 250mls. Taken as a meal.

After taking that for three days, take full-strength Citrus juice for three days.

Then Citrus Fruits for three days.

Then fresh fruits and vegetable salads for three days.

Then soft-boiled vegetables for three days.

No meat, fish, egg, nor milk the same number of days you fasted.

You can gradually start eating otherwise normal foods.

ON NO START A FAST FIRST, THEN READ THE MANUALS LATER!

Usmanovic95:
➜In all degree, human are created to be perfect or faultless. Do you have a contrary opinion to that?

You are not making any sense since your grand excuse bellowed from your every religious pulpits— the reason for why all religious people are no better than the non-religious where it ought to count,—used generously among the religious as an excuse fo their numerous wickedness against mankind, has always been that no human is perfect and faultless! So, which one is it? 😐😐😐😐

Kobojunkie:
. That's an interesting claim you make- a very broad one, but interesting still! Care to tell us what aspects of African traditional religion you find most practical and golden? Also, feel free to touch on the aspect where you pretend all gods worshipped across all religions are the same.

I never said all gods are the same.
I said all worshipers believe in the supreme God. So an Ogun worshiper still believes there is a bigger God, just the same way the Christains who worship Christ believe in the Almighty God who they refer to as His father, the Muslims also believe in the supreme Go God called Allah.
They all believe I'm the one true God but worship him through various methods.
Please try to real and understood me well.

What I have been saying is simple and I have been repeating the same thing over and over.