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raumdeuter: 11:25pm On Feb 25
cococandy:


If someone digs a hole for you, then falls into it and you turn around and say “see why I told you to stop digging that hole? Because I knew it would affect you as much as you want it to affect me”, it’s not the same as wishing something bad happens to someone and rejoicing when it does.

We voted because we want the best for everyone including the groups that you guys hate.
You people voted because you were promised that these groups you hate would be punished by the authorities as soon as they get in power.

We’re hearing of young white boys buying ICE jackets off Amazon to go to construction stores and enjoy seeing the immigrants scrambling around in fear. That type of cruelty is what I’m talking about. But that’s a small example.

I’m not going to validate this false equivalence you’re trying to make. Doesn’t matter how it’s painted it’s not the same at all. And that’s all imma say about it.

That is a lie and you know it

People voted based on Inflation, Illegal immigration, foreign wars, Middle east

So which people were getting punished by inflation that made them vote out Democrats or how did almost every county in the country move away from blue to red
cococandy(f): 11:38pm On Feb 25
IjeBos:


Musk hasn't found waste nor widespread corruption.

We're playing a dangerous game.

And you’re absolutely correct. The big stuff they made noise about finding they’ve sneakily deleted. The same noise they used to rile up their base telling them they’re finding huge saving for them should have been applied when they were quietly retracting their own “findings”. But the misinformation is now out there and they’ve refused to take action to rectify the falsehoods being spread around.

It’s almost like we said it that true audits take time and expertise.


NYtimes:

Last week, Elon Musk’s government cost-slashing initiative, dubbed the Department of Government Efficiency, posted an online “wall of receipts,” celebrating how much it had saved by canceling federal contracts.

Now the organization, which is also known as the U.S. DOGE Service, has deleted all of the five biggest “savings” on that original list, after The New York Times and other media outlets pointed out they were riddled with errors.

The last of the original top five disappeared from the site in the early hours of Tuesday, even as the group claimed in its latest update that its savings to date had increased to $65 billion. The website offered no explanation for why it removed some items or how it arrived at the higher total. Neither the U.S. DOGE Service nor the White House responded to questions Tuesday morning.

The “wall of receipts” is the only public ledger the organization has produced to document its work. The scale of that ledger’s errors — and the misunderstandings and poor quality control that seemed to underlie them — has raised questions about the effort’s broader work, which has led to mass firings and cutbacks across the federal government.

These were the original five largest savings on its list:

An $8 billion cut at Immigration and Customs Enforcement. The actual contract in question was worth $8 million . The mistake seemed to stem from an earlier, erroneous entry in a federal contracting database. But contracting experts said that the service should have known better: ICE’s entire budget is about $8 billion, making it implausible that one contract could be so large. The U.S. DOGE Service adjusted the figure on the site after The Times wrote about it, and said in a post on Mr. Musk’s X platform that it had “always used the correct $8M in its calculations.”

Three $655 million cuts at the U.S. Agency for International Development. This was actually a single cut that was erroneously counted three times, as first reported by CBS News. That mistake also seemed to reflect a misunderstanding of the way government contracts work; they sometimes have “ceiling values” far in excess of what will be spent. Experts said this cancellation was unlikely to produce anything close to $655 million in savings even once. Now, the site lists a much smaller savings for these three cancellations: $18 million in total.

A $232 million cut at the Social Security istration. Here, Mr. Musk’s organization appeared to have mistakenly believed that the agency had canceled a huge information technology contract with the defense contracting giant Leidos. Instead, as reported by The Intercept, it had canceled only a tiny piece of it: a $560,000 project to let s mark their gender as “X.” The DOGE site now shows that small cut instead.

Some of the new canceled contracts added this week appear to make some of the same types of errors.

The largest savings on the latest version of its list is a $1.9 billion cut at the Treasury Department. But The Times reported last week that this contract was canceled last fall, when Joseph R. Biden Jr. was president — and when DOGE did not yet exist

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PDPGuy: 12:17am On Feb 26
raumdeuter:


Did anyone actually say this?
Unfortunately many people

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PDPGuy: 12:38am On Feb 26
Trump is proposing a $5 million “Gold card” for wealthy potential immigrants to the U.S. to create U.S. jobs.

Under the proposal, once a foreigner buys the Gold card, he/she would enjoy all the privileges that come with Permanent Residency.

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bemeruca: 1:11am On Feb 26
IjeBos:


Such bullshit.
Dems don't celebrate the suffering of Trump ers. That's in fact their problem.

They believe in lifting everyone up. So they fund farm subsidies, Medicare, highways, telecom, wifi etc.

Big cities generally subsidize rural America which are generally Republicans.

See this liar, they were even angry the shooter missed trump
bemeruca: 1:12am On Feb 26
raumdeuter:


That is a lie and you know it

People voted based on Inflation, Illegal immigration, foreign wars, Middle east

So which people were getting punished by inflation that made them vote out Democrats or how did almost every county in the country move away from blue to red

She tell lies like she is breathing oxygen
GloriousGbola: 1:54am On Feb 26
PDPGuy:
Trump is proposing a $5 million “Gold card” for wealthy potential immigrants to the U.S. to create U.S. jobs.

Under the proposal, once a foreigner buys the Gold card, he/she would enjoy all the privileges that come with Permanent Residency.

https://www.uscis.gov/working-in-the-united-states/permanent-workers/eb-5-immigrant-investor-program
USCIS isters the EB-5 Program. Under this program, investors (and their spouses and unmarried children under 21) are eligible to apply for lawful permanent residence (become a Green Card holder) if they:

Make the necessary investment in a commercial enterprise in the United States; and
Plan to create or preserve 10 permanent full-time jobs for qualified U.S. workers.

This program is known as EB-5 for the name of the employment-based fifth preference visa that participants receive.

Congress created the EB-5 Program in 1990 to stimulate the U.S. economy through job creation and capital investment by foreign investors. In 1992, Congress created the Immigrant Investor Program, also known as the Regional Center Program, which sets aside EB-5 visas for participants who invest in commercial enterprises associated with regional centers approved by USCIS based on proposals for promoting economic growth.

this has already existed for years. if i recall it requires a $500,000 investment

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Ibime(m): 2:02am On Feb 26
PDPGuy:
Trump is proposing a $5 million “Gold card” for wealthy potential immigrants to the U.S. to create U.S. jobs.

Under the proposal, once a foreigner buys the Gold card, he/she would enjoy all the privileges that come with Permanent Residency.

A good idea, similar to an investors visa

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happney65: 2:11am On Feb 26
cococandy:
And they want to claim it’s not a dictatorship

People wey don smoke igbo
raumdeuter: 2:22am On Feb 26
LONDON/WASHINGTON, Feb 25 (Reuters) - The U.S. and Ukraine have agreed on the of a draft minerals deal central to Kyiv's push to win Washington's as President Donald Trump seeks to rapidly end the war with Russia, two sources with knowledge of the matter said on Tuesday.
A source familiar with the contents of the draft agreement said that it does not specify any U.S. security guarantees or continued flow of weapons but says that the United States wants Ukraine to be “free, sovereign and secure.”

Trump told reporters that Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy wants to come to Washington on Friday to sign a "very big deal." This came after the two leaders exchanged hostile words last week.
The U.S. president, who has cast the deal as a repayment for billions of dollars in aid to Kyiv, also said some form of peacekeeping troops are needed in Ukraine if an agreement to end the conflict is struck. Moscow, which launched an invasion of Ukraine three years ago, has refused to accept any deployment of NATO forces.

Ibime(m): 2:23am On Feb 26
Trump and Zelensky agree minerals deal. A very nice one

I had no fears about mining deal because I know Western companies to follow international standards on revenue share from mining unlike the Chinese or Russians who just come in and mine using non-state actors and cart away the wealth (see Zamfara for example)

When you partner with the West, development go boku and that's all Ukraine ever wanted. South Korea, Japan, Taiwan and all former Soviet States currently in the EU are proof of the benefits of Western partnership. Hopefully there are some security guarantees and Ukraine eventually EU. In 20 years the average Ukrainian will be oppressing the average Russian financially.

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bemeruca: 2:24am On Feb 26
raumdeuter:
LONDON/WASHINGTON, Feb 25 (Reuters) - The U.S. and Ukraine have agreed on the of a draft minerals deal central to Kyiv's push to win Washington's as President Donald Trump seeks to rapidly end the war with Russia, two sources with knowledge of the matter said on Tuesday.
A source familiar with the contents of the draft agreement said that it does not specify any U.S. security guarantees or continued flow of weapons but says that the United States wants Ukraine to be “free, sovereign and secure.”

Trump told reporters that Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy wants to come to Washington on Friday to sign a "very big deal." This came after the two leaders exchanged hostile words last week.
The U.S. president, who has cast the deal as a repayment for billions of dollars in aid to Kyiv, also said some form of peacekeeping troops are needed in Ukraine if an agreement to end the conflict is struck. Moscow, which launched an invasion of Ukraine three years ago, has refused to accept any deployment of NATO forces.

Trumps is a business man
IjeBos(m): 2:55am On Feb 26
Ibime:
Trump and Zelensky agree minerals deal. A very nice one

I had no fears about mining deal because I know Western companies to follow international standards on revenue share from mining unlike the Chinese or Russians who just come in and mine using non-state actors and cart away the wealth (see Zamfara for example)

When you partner with the West, development go boku and that's all Ukraine ever wanted. South Korea, Japan, Taiwan and all former Soviet States currently in the EU are proof of the benefits of Western partnership. Hopefully there are some security guarantees and Ukraine eventually EU. In 20 years the average Ukrainian will be oppressing the average Russian financially.

It's not a good look, coercing and exploiting a country that is in the middle of a war.
In fact may seem like a tag team. Using the threat of Russian annihilation to coerce them.
Nasty work. Will leave a black eye for the US for some time to come.

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IjeBos(m): 3:00am On Feb 26
This seems to be the point of most of these cuts.

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bemeruca: 3:09am On Feb 26
IjeBos:


It's not a good look, coercing and exploiting a country that is in the middle of a war.
In fact may seem like a tag team. Using the threat of Russian annihilation to coerce them.
Nasty work. Will leave a black eye for the US for some time to come.

Just spend our money on Ukraine for nothing. They don't have to agree to the deal. They should pay for their own war

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PDPGuy: 3:50am On Feb 26
GloriousGbola:



this has already existed for years. if i recall it requires a $500,000 investment

Yes, but I think Trump is proposing that Congress increase the top threshold from $1 million to $5 million.
PDPGuy: 3:53am On Feb 26
Ibime:


A good idea, similar to an investors visa

Yea
raumdeuter: 4:53am On Feb 26
bemeruca:


Just spend our money on Ukraine for nothing. They don't have to agree to the deal. They should pay for their own war

Another win for Trump on getting Ukraine to sign the mineral deal. I wonder which American will be angry about this deal

Anyone who want US aids and tax dollars need to offer us something in return

Zelensky folded

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PDPGuy: 5:04am On Feb 26
March 14 is a key date: The day of a potential government shutdown IF Congress doesn’t a continuing resolution…

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IjeBos(m): 5:26am On Feb 26
bemeruca:


Just spend our money on Ukraine for nothing. They don't have to agree to the deal. They should pay for their own war

Tell us, which day did you land in the US again?

basilico: 6:14am On Feb 26
Some serious corruption here. EPA official was recorded secretly by O'Keefe saying they were "throwing gold bars off the titanic ". Meaning they were literally dishing out unused money as quickly as possible before Trump came in
EPA parked $20 billion at Citibank where it could easily wire the cash secretly without feds noticing.
Some recipients of EPA funds I will update this.

_LaTricea Adams Serving as Bidens Environmental Justice Advisor, she personally applied for and received a $20 million grant for her leftist org that consults on ocean cleanups.
_Stacy Abrams. Received over $2 billion to fight climate change in housing designs....Her newly ed outfit boasted a whooping $100 in it's bank before it won the $2B funding.( yes $100 only! ! )

That leaves $18B .To leftist connected organisations who most likely have no capacity but disburse it to other far leftists
Media: There is no evidence Biden engaged in any fraud,

AI Bot.
Here are the top 5 wastage figures exposed by DOGE based on their recent findings:
Environmental Protection Agency (EPA): $20 billion in waste uncovered.
Department of Homeland Security (DHS): Significant clawbacks, estimated at around $15 billion.
Pentagon: Approximately $10 billion wasted on unnecessary contracts and projects.
Medicaid Spending: Estimated waste of about $8 billion due to inefficiencies.
Federal Contracting: Identified waste totaling around $5 billion from redundant or poorly managed contracts.
These figures highlight the substantial efforts by DOGE to uncover inefficiencies in government spending
basilico: 7:02am On Feb 26
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basilico: 7:03am On Feb 26
descarado:
That was from Dr Eric Berg.

Have been following him on youtube for 3 yrs now.
Not at his analysis.

He was very vocal about covid 19. Everything he said is 100% correct today.
He has started shouting in loud voice.

He is a big enemy of big pharma as he said they are killing more people than saving.
Flu deaths are back. From 2020 they had all been replaced by COVID. Died with and died of ..
cc cococandy

The flu season in California has proved to be particularly deadly, with more than 900 deaths reported since October. According to the latest update from the California Department of Public Health, released on Friday, the state is in the midst of one of the most severe flu outbreaks the state has seen in years.

Older adults have been most affected by the surge, with 700 deaths among those age 65 and over. However, the flu has also claimed the lives of at least 15 children, according to state data, raising concerns among public health officials.

For the first time since 2020, flu-related deaths have sured those from COVID-19 in California, according to the state’s health department.


At the height of COVID-19 hospitals were being paid for every covid diagnosis, treatment and death. Doctors were ordered not to prescribe IVM and HCL because... the money would be less.
basilico: 9:05am On Feb 26
Tulsi Gabbard fired over 100 staffers over several agencies for using a chat room to describe their kinky dei habits. Their security clearances were also removed Using govt chat rooms to discuss Pornhub material. That's a no no .
Daily mail has the story.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14432767/Lurid-sex-chats-NSA-agents-exposed-intel-chief-Tulsi-Gabbard-vows-punish-workers-posting-kinks-fetishes-polyamory.html

Fruits of lbgtqa+ DEI. If you want the lurid chats
Click HERE

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cococandy(f): 10:58am On Feb 26
Republicans budget cuts will affect Medicaid and food stamps. Possibly to the the tune 880 billion and 230 billion respectively.

The agriculture committee is being forced to cut 230 billion dollars. Cutting that much will mean cuts to food stamps and farm subsidies.

The energy and commerce committee oversees Medicaid. Forcing them to cut 880 billion from their budget means cuts to Medicaid. They lied that they never wanted to cut Medicaid but are forcing the committee that oversees Medicaid to cut 880 billion. This their way of cutting Medicaid without taking responsibility for the harm they’re doing. And of course they know their ers have no clue about any of this.

Medicaid is the most used medical insurance program for children under the age of 18 and pregnant women.
It’s one of the biggest sources of funding for hospitals, community health centers, physicians, and nursing homes.

What’s the cut going to fund now?
Tax breaks and subsidies for billionaires who want to attain trillionaire status and corporate welfare.



If advanced by the Senate, the resolution will cut about $880 billion from the House Energy and Commerce Committee—which oversees health care spending in programs such as Medicaid—over the next decade as part of a broader GOP budget framework aimed at enacting $4.5 trillion in tax cuts to put towards raising the country’s debt limit.

With nearly 80 million Americans covered by Medicaid and CHIP, this vote would affect almost a quarter of the US population if ed into law.3


But America first? Guess the 80 million people on Medicaid aren’t American

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Maeve7: 1:54pm On Feb 26
cococandy:
Republicans budget cuts will affect Medicaid and food stamps. Possibly to the the tune 880 billion and 230 billion

The agriculture committee is being forced to cut 230 billion dollars. Cutting that much will mean cuts to food stamps and farm subsidies.

The energy and commerce committee oversees Medicaid. Forcing them to cut 880 billion to their budget means cuts to Medicaid. They lied they never wanted to cut Medicaid but are forcing the committee that oversees Medicaid to cut 880 billion is their way of cutting Medicaid without taking responsibility for the harm they’re doing. And of course they know their ers have no clue about any of this.

Medicaid is the most used medical insurance program for children under the age of 18 and pregnant women.
It’s one of the biggest sources of funding for hospitals, community health centers, physicians, and nursing homes.

What’s the cut going to fund now?
Tax breaks and subsidies for billionaires who want to a train trillionaire status and corporate welfare.



But America first? Guess the 80 million people on Medicaid aren’t American


They said they were going to cut spending.

Meanwhile, they want to cut 2 trillion (which will be suffered by the working class and the poor) to put forward a 4.5 trillion tax cut which will benefit the rich.

I don’t know if the MAGAts can do simple math but I can give them a calculator.

Are we GREAT yet?

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Maeve7: 1:56pm On Feb 26
MAGA

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bemeruca: 2:06pm On Feb 26
IjeBos:


Tell us, which day did you land in the US again?


You didn't not add the Boston photos I wonder why 😂

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cococandy(f): 2:20pm On Feb 26
This is really all they wanted. There’s no grand conspiracy or interesting plan. It’s just how to make the most money for richest people at the expense of the poor people. Who btw would’ve been able to recognize what’s happening and stand up against it. Except that they’ve been so thoroughly propagandized to they can’t tell what day of the week it is until they’re told what to think it is.

Maeve7:


They said they were going to cut spending.

Meanwhile, they want to cut 2 trillion (which will be suffered by the working class and the poor) to put forward a 4.5 trillion tax cut which will benefit the rich.

I don’t know if the MAGAts can do simple math but I can give them a calculator.

Are we GREAT yet?

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Maeve7: 2:27pm On Feb 26
cococandy:
This is really all they wanted. There’s no grand conspiracy or interesting plan. It’s just how to make the most money for richest people at the expense of the poor people. Who btw would’ve been able to recognize what’s happening and stand up against it. Except that they’ve been so thoroughly propagandized to they can’t tell what day of the week it is until they’re told what to think it is.


There was a “concept of a plan" and it’s being executed now. cheesy

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raumdeuter: 2:53pm On Feb 26
Europe agrees to increase military presence in Ukraine and take over
Ukraine agrees minerals deal with US

Next step is to stop the war in Ukraine

Then Trump gets his Nobel prize for peace
bemeruca: 2:54pm On Feb 26
raumdeuter:
Europe agrees to increase military presence in Ukraine and take over
Ukraine agrees minerals deal with US

Next step is to stop the war in Ukraine

Then Trump gets his Nobel prize for peace

They gave it to Obama for simply existing, trump should be on his 3rd NPP by now.


Also, the UK plans to cut foreign aid and increase defence spending. He knows what Trump is doing is popular and makes sense

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