kossyablaze(m): 6:22am On Feb 23 |
ednut1:
Too many Indians were brought in as students outpacing jobs and housing . The whole thing con castđ©
bro those Indians tire me. Our people get coordination them. They have destroyed Canada.... So mannerless
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miketayo(m): 6:37am On Feb 23 |
epainos:
How did you know that I don't have something better than Canada? Lol. Did I write that I am stranded in Naija? Una go just talk like you know everything. You deserve a knock on your head. Go check your brain.
Someone that thinks Canada can be the 51st state of US is asking me to check my head  .
Well everything is allowed to have an opinion.
I stand by what I said, if you got a canadian visa today you would still jump on the next available flight.
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epainos: 6:54am On Feb 23 |
Amayabor1:
Even UK people dey run enter Canada. For me to go UK, I go remain for Nigeria
Yeah, that was some years ago when Canada was booming with its many routes. You guys don't understand what is going on. Let me explain since your response is like someone not attacking me like others.
Firstly, I like your idea to remain in Naija instead of the UK. You are right, but hmmm....its a bit tricky. The UK has made it so hard that ONLY genuine people can enter. So, in a way, it will favor people there because bad people will not spoil the place. If you have the money, you can enter the UK, live there, and enjoy it. But most people from developing nations don't have it. Going abroad is to hustle for the most people. And they will get there and not improve their skills wanting to only do menial jobs to survive, and use their money to"oppress" their family and friends back home. Lol. Note the word "survive" abroad. Lol. UK has locked up for like 19 years but after Brexit, they were forced to open the health related routes and Nigeria messed them up again. And again, they have locked them up. Lol. Yeah, the path to the UK citizenship is too hard, but as long as one has a work permit to work and live legally there, it is worth it. And again, if one is smart and equipped with one of these innovative skills most nations want, the journey wil be smooth.
Now, let me talk about Canada. The way Canada used to make noise, I thought it was a superb nation. I checking their GDP and per capita, and I was not not feeling it though they look good. I never for a day put in effort to that nation. Then, I looked at the population of each province, and then, I saw something. Most people don't research the way I do because they just don't understand economics, finance, and politics. They think politics is Naija style..lol. And then, I looked at the GDP of each province, and that was when I realised that Ontario and some other places are ok, but the rest are not rich. Hmmm. I then realised that Canada actually wants to fill other places. The tricky issue is that over 70% of the immigrants since the late 90s they started accepting immigrants live in Ontario. Wow. And till date, immigrants after fulfilling the regions that give them stay, they jump to Ontario mostly, and few to Aberta, Manitoba, and Saskatchewan. British Columbia is out of reach because the elites won't allow common people there...too expensive for many. So, Ontario is getting so expensive too, and opportunities are limited now.
What does my explanation mean? Canada has not found a way to encourage people to live in other provinces apart from mainly Ontario, and then Albeta. People will pretend to want to live in other provinces, and after they have secured their residency, they will move to Ontario making the Canadian government effort fruitless. And why is it like this? It is simply because there is something they aren't telling us. GDP and capita are just numbers that smart nations easily push up. Now, there are no more jobs for people in Ontario. And they had to stop many of their programs and find other ways to make people stay in other provinces.
So. What is the truth? People stay where there are opportunities, life and fun. Period. There isn't fun in other places in Canada. People who tried staying in other provinces complain of loneliness. Lol. It can be a curse to be too big na. Lol. Canada is extremely huge.
Now to the real truth. Trump has shown us that the Canadian economy relies on the US. Period. If the US decides to crush them, they are gone.
While I am not saying you should not go there and fulfill your dream if it is for you, I am just saying that there is no place on earth with massive opportunities like the US presently. Where you wan talk about in the US and mention depression? No where. Where fun no dey in the US? No where.
Best of luck!
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epainos: 6:56am On Feb 23 |
Abufo:
Canada maybe an easier route into America legally..........no pain no gain!
Smart talk. Gbam!
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epainos: 7:06am On Feb 23 |
miketayo:
Someone that thinks Canada can be the 51st state of US is asking me to check my head .
Well everything is allowed to have an opinion.
I stand by what I said, if you got a canadian visa today you would still jump on the next available flight.
You need to check your brain. Go learn English and know the difference btw "can", "will" and "is going".
Again, you are messed up. Who told you we are talking about just Canadian visas here? Go learn the meaning of migrating because thus is my bone of contention here.
Your type is who Trump is trying to chase out of the US because your chosen words look like you are too desperate and will want to use any kind of visa to try to live permanently anywhere. Check your đ§ . Who even told you I need a Canadian visa to visit Canada? Check your damn brain mehn! Finally, does the fact that Canada does not appeal to me mean that I cannot enter without a visa? Again, check your damn rotten brain if you do not want me to smack it.
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invectives(m): 7:25am On Feb 23 |
NaijaCowFarm:
Because they deny your CDS visa, then Canada is a dead-end? What will you call your SHIT-HOLE country?
There is a saying in local parlance that "When a child cannot afford to buy "akara', he will consolingly call it "shit-akara"
Reverse Psychology Routine!!!
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virginchaser(m): 7:25am On Feb 23 |
Arostar2023:
That's exactly the challenge. They won't recognize the country they left 12 months ago. The shock might drive them crazy if they don't have strong social security network.
Only if they relocated to NW, NS and SE. Tell me more that I don't know.
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juliusijidola: 7:26am On Feb 23 |

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punisha: 7:44am On Feb 23 |
Nairaland hasn't changed a bit.
I am so certain you don't live in Canada nor have ever lived in Canada lol.
Quelme:
Canada is highly overrated place.
Poor housing.
No jobs..
Indians have polluted that place...
No social live....
Extreme weather conditions....
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punisha: 7:47am On Feb 23 |
Una dey talk ooo....
EKONGKING:
its a very over rated country , the housing and energy costs are not worth it .,like shitty broken U.K .
Emigrate to USA or Australia , if u want to emigrate not Canada,UK and New zealand .
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Quelme: 7:53am On Feb 23 |
punisha:
Nairaland hasn't changed a bit.
I am so certain you don't live in Canada nor have ever lived in Canada lol.
how did you arrive at this conclusion?
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Quelme: 8:01am On Feb 23 |
miketayo:
Poor housing as how?
there are more Indians in US and UK than in Canada
there is plenty of social life in Ontario and BC.
you can still have fun in winter
I thought you were gonna mention Nunavut, Prince Edward Island or Newfoundland. How did you arrive at the conclusion that there are more Indians in the UK and US?
Canada is a country just occupying space. That's the very reason Trump wants it as the 51st state of the US. UK and US are miles ahead of CA in all indices...
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ItisWell22(f): 8:09am On Feb 23 |
epainos:
Canada that will soon become the 51st US state. Lol.
The Canadian economy isn't that bogus. Honestly, I used to think the nation is superb, but I just don't know why the place does not attract me. Just me. And I was wondering some years back why I just don't flow with the residential routes they rolled out. Now, I get it. My intuition was right.
If you are smart, try hard to enter the US, if not, enter the UK. But make sure its the US. That's a land of opportunities. Enter the US legally. If you are on a non immigrant visa, don't overstay. Plan your way smartly
If you can, avoid the marriage route also. There are any other reasonable paths to residency in the US.
God bless!
With the recent stiffening of USâ immigration policies, how can one go about it please?
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Zooboytwo: 8:25am On Feb 23 |
Laird:
Exactly
Learn in demand skills
Like ?
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Exceed15: 8:28am On Feb 23 |
Quelme:
Canada is highly overrated place.
Poor housing.
No jobs..
Indians have polluted that place...
No social live....
Extreme weather conditions....
Do you live there?
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Exceed15: 8:30am On Feb 23 |
CoronaVirusPro:
Highly overrated country!
I canât really figure out what really makes people relocate to that country.
Seems people are just anxious to see snow and just opt for the country.
How can you skip, UK, USA, Australia and Switzerland, and all you could think of is Canada. That place is a dead end.
Remove UK please. People are struggling there big time.
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martineverest(m): 8:58am On Feb 23 |
ItisWell22:
With the recent stiffening of USâ immigration policies, how can one go about it please?
Trump is opening USA for professionals..... especially those in engineering,medical and artificial intelligence/machine learning fields...UK is about to reduce their strict policies on professionals in medical and AI fields
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martineverest(m): 8:59am On Feb 23 |
Exceed15:
Remove UK please. People are struggling there big time.
UK is better than Canada, currently
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AngelicBeing: 9:17am On Feb 23 |
ednut1:
Too many Indians were brought in as students outpacing jobs and housing . The whole thing con castđ©
True, all shelters for downtown Toronto is full of homeless and asylum seekers, in addition, most of the CBSA AND CIC officials are Indians and they exhibit subtle racism against Black Africans, Canada of early 2000 is different from the Canada l am seeing today
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epainos: 9:31am On Feb 23 |
ItisWell22:
With the recent stiffening of USâ immigration policies, how can one go about it please?
It is not that easy anywhere anymore. The goal of these advance nations is talent hunting. In the 80s and early 90s, student visa is the way out to pull talents from other places. But since developing nations have found ways to cheat, it has been stopped. Even some years back the UK almost turned student visas to tourist when over 95% students are forced to leave. And many used it to cross over to Canada. Luckily, the UK has opened the door for students again. To me, the UK via student is the best option, but you must have the money. The main hindrance now is forex.....Tinubu don knock everything. Too bad.
In short, if you don't have the money, it is hard. Also, you can't cheat anymore except you have the brain to either get a scholarship or apply in one of the available employment categories. And most people don't still qualify. Truly, this is what they are aiming at: to pick the best. It makes sense.
The only available routes are for qualified people who can meet up with their requirements. First, they must have enough savings in forex to thrive there (not just survive), or have skills they need there.
So, my post wasn't for everyone but for very few selected people. So, I am sorry if anyone does not qualify.
Researchers, entertainers, content creators with proofs, students with either scholarship or money (even the US grants partial scholarships only to top schools or full scholarships to non top schools now....they have started refusing partial scholarships into non top schools), and health related visas. Most people who are qualified know they are, and most aren't even desperate. It is like saying they want those who are already kings or children of kings in other places. So, some percentage won't even bother to apply because they don't see the reason. Imagine asking a professor who is a king here and has several other non immigration visas to relocate there and do 'yes sir/ma" when they worship him here. Many will not find it wise to do so.
Another issue is that those developed nations deliberately allow illegal immigrants just to do menial jobs for them, but robots are taking over many of these repetitive jobs. I predict that if Trump is successful with his radical change, rather than pay $30 per hour to many fruits pickers on farms, farm owners would invest in fruit picking robots. Self driving will replace ride-sharing drivers very soon so that illegal migrants aren't needed to drive them around anymore. Same way restaurant waiters might not soon be needed again. Gone are the days immigrants are used to offload and heavy goods in warehouses because robots have taking over.
Well I think there will still be loopholes, and laws may still change to favor some menial jobs again, but we are nearing the end. Things have changed.
What are the next areas the poor can explore? I don't know yet, but I am sure there will still be loop holes.
In the interim, I think health care is still where the poor without innovative skills can tap into, especially the care visa option. Though, the UK, Canada, and other places have made it tougher, but as long as they don't have solutions for caring for their aged citizens, they will still make the rules easier soon. So, interested people should just make sure they are ready with their legal documents intact. This is my suggestion. Personally, I predict that something will happen in the UK very soon that will force NHS to force the government to allow certain number of care-givers enter again. Why? As long as the British themselves aren't interested in the job, and as long as most who have entered now have secured indefinitely stay. After securing indefinite stay, they also stop doing it. In my view, they presently have sufficient care workers, but in the next 2 to 3 years, another set of thousands of care workers will be allowed to enter.
As for the US, I think it is just a waste of time if one doesn't fit into one of the categories I described above. Even, you will see this is true from what Trump is doing. Apart from seeing him as a racist (which I am not sure yet), while he is chasing other immigrants, he wants the white South Africans to relocate there. Sure, it will strengthen pro-white republicans, but he is primarily targeting wealthy South Africans, the majority of whom are farmers. So, he stylishly wants to hijack South African food security mechanism. That's just it. Quite smart. People just see it as a form of racism, but that guy is damn smart.
What can you offer? If you think you can't offer anything yet, you can actually learn a skill. Anyone can do it. Before you know it, within 5 years, you will move. But at the end, you may not want to leave. That's the thing.
My message in a sentence is: Everyone should learn a distruptive or an evergreen skill.
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horreyneeyo: 9:54am On Feb 23 |
Well said.
epainos:
It is not that easy anywhere anymore. The goal of these advance nations is talent hunting. In the 80s and early 90s, student visa is the way out to pull talents from other places. But since developing nations have found ways to cheat, it has been stopped. Even some years back the UK almost turned student visas to tourist when over 95% students are forced to leave. And many used it to cross over to Canada. Luckily, the UK has opened the door for students again. To me, the UK via student is the best option, but you must have the money. The main hindrance now is forex.....Tinubu don knock everything. Too bad.
In short, if you don't have the money, it is hard. Also, you can't cheat anymore except you have the brain to either get a scholarship or apply in one of the available employment categories. And most people don't still qualify. Truly, this is what they are aiming at: to pick the best. It makes sense.
The only available routes are for qualified people who can meet up with their requirements. First, they must have enough savings in forex to thrive there (not just survive), or have skills they need there.
So, my post wasn't for everyone but for very few selected people. So, I am sorry if anyone does not qualify.
Researchers, entertainers, content creators with proofs, students with either scholarship or money (even the US grants partial scholarships only to top schools or full scholarships to non top schools now....they have started refusing partial scholarships into non top schools), and health related visas. Most people who are qualified know they are, and most aren't even desperate. It is like saying they want those who are already kings or children of kings in other places. So, some percentage won't even bother to apply because they don't see the reason. Imagine asking a professor who is a king here and has several other non immigration visas to relocate there and do 'yes sir/ma" when they worship him here. Many will not find it wise to do so.
Another issue is that those developed nations deliberately allow illegal immigrants just to do menial jobs for them, but robots are taking over many of these repetitive jobs. I predict that if Trump is successful with his radical change, rather than pay $30 per hour to many fruits pickers on farms, farm owners would invest in fruit picking robots. Self driving will replace ride-sharing drivers very soon so that illegal migrants aren't needed to drive them around anymore. Same way restaurant waiters might not soon be needed again. Gone are the days immigrants are used to offload and heavy goods in warehouses because robots have taking over.
Well I think there will still be loopholes, and laws may still change to favor some menial jobs again, but we are nearing the end. Things have changed.
What are the next areas the poor can explore? I don't know yet, but I am sure there will still be loop holes.
In the interim, I think health care is still where the poor without innovative skills can tap into, especially the care visa option. Though, the UK, Canada, and other places have made it tougher, but as long as they don't have solutions for caring for their aged citizens, they will still make the rules easier soon. So, interested people should just make sure they are ready with their legal documents intact. This is my suggestion. Personally, I predict that something will happen in the UK very soon that will force NHS to force the government to allow certain number of care-givers enter again. Why? As long as the British themselves aren't interested in the job, and as long as most who have entered now have secured indefinitely stay. After securing indefinite stay, they also stop doing it. In my view, they presently have sufficient care workers, but in the next 2 to 3 years, another set of thousands of care workers will be allowed to enter.
As for the US, I think it is just a waste of time if one doesn't fit into one of the categories I described above. Even, you will see this is true from what Trump is doing. Apart from seeing him as a racist (which I am not sure yet), while he is chasing other immigrants, he wants the white South Africans to relocate there. Sure, it will strengthen pro-white republicans, but he is primarily targeting wealthy South Africans, the majority of whom are farmers. So, he stylishly wants to hijack South African food security mechanism. That's just it. Quite smart. People just see it as a form of racism, but that guy is damn smart.
What can you offer? If you think you can't offer anything yet, you can actually learn a skill. Anyone can do it. Before you know it, within 5 years, you will move. But at the end, you may not want to leave. That's the thing.
My message in a sentence is: Everyone should learn a distruptive or an evergreen skill.
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Quelme: 10:06am On Feb 23 |
Exceed15:
Do you live there?
not anymore.
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noob03saibot(m): 10:25am On Feb 23 |
epainos:
Yeah, that was some years ago when Canada was booming with its many routes. You guys don't understand what is going on. Let me explain since your response is like someone not attacking me like others.
Firstly, I like your idea to remain in Naija instead of the UK. You are right, but hmmm....its a bit tricky. The UK has made it so hard that ONLY genuine people can enter. So, in a way, it will favor people there because bad people will not spoil the place. If you have the money, you can enter the UK, live there, and enjoy it. But most people from developing nations don't have it. Going abroad is to hustle for the most people. And they will get there and not improve their skills wanting to only do menial jobs to survive, and use their money to"oppress" their family and friends back home. Lol. Note the word "survive" abroad. Lol. UK has locked up for like 19 years but after Brexit, they were forced to open the health related routes and Nigeria messed them up again. And again, they have locked them up. Lol. Yeah, the path to the UK citizenship is too hard, but as long as one has a work permit to work and live legally there, it is worth it. And again, if one is smart and equipped with one of these innovative skills most nations want, the journey wil be smooth.
Now, let me talk about Canada. The way Canada used to make noise, I thought it was a superb nation. I checking their GDP and per capita, and I was not not feeling it though they look good. I never for a day put in effort to that nation. Then, I looked at the population of each province, and then, I saw something. Most people don't research the way I do because they just don't understand economics, finance, and politics. They think politics is Naija style..lol. And then, I looked at the GDP of each province, and that was when I realised that Ontario and some other places are ok, but the rest are not rich. Hmmm. I then realised that Canada actually wants to fill other places. The tricky issue is that over 70% of the immigrants since the late 90s they started accepting immigrants live in Ontario. Wow. And till date, immigrants after fulfilling the regions that give them stay, they jump to Ontario mostly, and few to Aberta, Manitoba, and Saskatchewan. British Columbia is out of reach because the elites won't allow common people there...too expensive for many. So, Ontario is getting so expensive too, and opportunities are limited now.
What does my explanation mean? Canada has not found a way to encourage people to live in other provinces apart from mainly Ontario, and then Albeta. People will pretend to want to live in other provinces, and after they have secured their residency, they will move to Ontario making the Canadian government effort fruitless. And why is it like this? It is simply because there is something they aren't telling us. GDP and capita are just numbers that smart nations easily push up. Now, there are no more jobs for people in Ontario. And they had to stop many of their programs and find other ways to make people stay in other provinces.
So. What is the truth? People stay where there are opportunities, life and fun. Period. There isn't fun in other places in Canada. People who tried staying in other provinces complain of loneliness. Lol. It can be a curse to be too big na. Lol. Canada is extremely huge.
Now to the real truth. Trump has shown us that the Canadian economy relies on the US. Period. If the US decides to crush them, they are gone.
While I am not saying you should not go there and fulfill your dream if it is for you, I am just saying that there is no place on earth with massive opportunities like the US presently. Where you wan talk about in the US and mention depression? No where. Where fun no dey in the US? No where.
Best of luck!
Hmmm! This post of yours is something else. Lovely insight.
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Johnn74: 10:44am On Feb 23 |
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Menclothing1: 10:50am On Feb 23 |
Ashirioluwa:
Some people moved overseas in search of better prospects for their children and themselves.
Nigeria is really faced with an unemployment situation. Those who are looking for jobs cannot find one, and those who are employed are underpaid.
Unemployed using 50m to migrate to another country to be a cleaner
Reason Nigeria is like this no great mind think like this
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MT: 10:56am On Feb 23 |
epainos:
Yeah, that was some years ago when Canada was booming with its many routes. You guys don't understand what is going on. Let me explain since your response is like someone not attacking me like others.
Firstly, I like your idea to remain in Naija instead of the UK. You are right, but hmmm....its a bit tricky. The UK has made it so hard that ONLY genuine people can enter. So, in a way, it will favor people there because bad people will not spoil the place. If you have the money, you can enter the UK, live there, and enjoy it. But most people from developing nations don't have it. Going abroad is to hustle for the most people. And they will get there and not improve their skills wanting to only do menial jobs to survive, and use their money to"oppress" their family and friends back home. Lol. Note the word "survive" abroad. Lol. UK has locked up for like 19 years but after Brexit, they were forced to open the health related routes and Nigeria messed them up again. And again, they have locked them up. Lol. Yeah, the path to the UK citizenship is too hard, but as long as one has a work permit to work and live legally there, it is worth it. And again, if one is smart and equipped with one of these innovative skills most nations want, the journey wil be smooth.
Now, let me talk about Canada. The way Canada used to make noise, I thought it was a superb nation. I checking their GDP and per capita, and I was not not feeling it though they look good. I never for a day put in effort to that nation. Then, I looked at the population of each province, and then, I saw something. Most people don't research the way I do because they just don't understand economics, finance, and politics. They think politics is Naija style..lol. And then, I looked at the GDP of each province, and that was when I realised that Ontario and some other places are ok, but the rest are not rich. Hmmm. I then realised that Canada actually wants to fill other places. The tricky issue is that over 70% of the immigrants since the late 90s they started accepting immigrants live in Ontario. Wow. And till date, immigrants after fulfilling the regions that give them stay, they jump to Ontario mostly, and few to Aberta, Manitoba, and Saskatchewan. British Columbia is out of reach because the elites won't allow common people there...too expensive for many. So, Ontario is getting so expensive too, and opportunities are limited now.
What does my explanation mean? Canada has not found a way to encourage people to live in other provinces apart from mainly Ontario, and then Albeta. People will pretend to want to live in other provinces, and after they have secured their residency, they will move to Ontario making the Canadian government effort fruitless. And why is it like this? It is simply because there is something they aren't telling us. GDP and capita are just numbers that smart nations easily push up. Now, there are no more jobs for people in Ontario. And they had to stop many of their programs and find other ways to make people stay in other provinces.
So. What is the truth? People stay where there are opportunities, life and fun. Period. There isn't fun in other places in Canada. People who tried staying in other provinces complain of loneliness. Lol. It can be a curse to be too big na. Lol. Canada is extremely huge.
Now to the real truth. Trump has shown us that the Canadian economy relies on the US. Period. If the US decides to crush them, they are gone.
While I am not saying you should not go there and fulfill your dream if it is for you, I am just saying that there is no place on earth with massive opportunities like the US presently. Where you wan talk about in the US and mention depression? No where. Where fun no dey in the US? No where.
Best of luck!
You wrote a beautiful piece but ruined it with the exaggeration about the US. There are opportunities in all the nations of the world if you could match your skills with the available opportunities.
US has peaked and now in decline. Most jobs have left to Asia. For instance, look at Detroit, itâs now a shadow of its old days. This was one of the reasons Trump became aggressive and attempting to use tariff to bring the job back to the US. Jobs are leaving and US is mounting unsustainable debts. Thatâs why Trump established DOGE to reduce federal expenses by sacking most federal workers. Canât you see Americans crying on TV after being sacked and a lot are going to be sacked this week. What do you think will happen to the employment market?; it will become bloated again.
You claimed fun is everywhere in the US, have you been to Maine, South Dakota, North Dakota, Idaho, Nebraska just to mention a few, If you have done, you would rewrite your piece.
You got your piece right on Canada. I have written so much about it in the past here. Why Nigerians rush to that country will forever beat me.
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MT: 12:01pm On Feb 23 |
epainos:
It is not that easy anywhere anymore. The goal of these advance nations is talent hunting. In the 80s and early 90s, student visa is the way out to pull talents from other places. But since developing nations have found ways to cheat, it has been stopped. Even some years back the UK almost turned student visas to tourist when over 95% students are forced to leave. And many used it to cross over to Canada. Luckily, the UK has opened the door for students again. To me, the UK via student is the best option, but you must have the money. The main hindrance now is forex.....Tinubu don knock everything. Too bad.
In short, if you don't have the money, it is hard. Also, you can't cheat anymore except you have the brain to either get a scholarship or apply in one of the available employment categories. And most people don't still qualify. Truly, this is what they are aiming at: to pick the best. It makes sense.
The only available routes are for qualified people who can meet up with their requirements. First, they must have enough savings in forex to thrive there (not just survive), or have skills they need there.
So, my post wasn't for everyone but for very few selected people. So, I am sorry if anyone does not qualify.
Researchers, entertainers, content creators with proofs, students with either scholarship or money (even the US grants partial scholarships only to top schools or full scholarships to non top schools now....they have started refusing partial scholarships into non top schools), and health related visas. Most people who are qualified know they are, and most aren't even desperate. It is like saying they want those who are already kings or children of kings in other places. So, some percentage won't even bother to apply because they don't see the reason. Imagine asking a professor who is a king here and has several other non immigration visas to relocate there and do 'yes sir/ma" when they worship him here. Many will not find it wise to do so.
Another issue is that those developed nations deliberately allow illegal immigrants just to do menial jobs for them, but robots are taking over many of these repetitive jobs. I predict that if Trump is successful with his radical change, rather than pay $30 per hour to many fruits pickers on farms, farm owners would invest in fruit picking robots. Self driving will replace ride-sharing drivers very soon so that illegal migrants aren't needed to drive them around anymore. Same way restaurant waiters might not soon be needed again. Gone are the days immigrants are used to offload and heavy goods in warehouses because robots have taking over.
Well I think there will still be loopholes, and laws may still change to favor some menial jobs again, but we are nearing the end. Things have changed.
What are the next areas the poor can explore? I don't know yet, but I am sure there will still be loop holes.
In the interim, I think health care is still where the poor without innovative skills can tap into, especially the care visa option. Though, the UK, Canada, and other places have made it tougher, but as long as they don't have solutions for caring for their aged citizens, they will still make the rules easier soon. So, interested people should just make sure they are ready with their legal documents intact. This is my suggestion. Personally, I predict that something will happen in the UK very soon that will force NHS to force the government to allow certain number of care-givers enter again. Why? As long as the British themselves aren't interested in the job, and as long as most who have entered now have secured indefinitely stay. After securing indefinite stay, they also stop doing it. In my view, they presently have sufficient care workers, but in the next 2 to 3 years, another set of thousands of care workers will be allowed to enter.
As for the US, I think it is just a waste of time if one doesn't fit into one of the categories I described above. Even, you will see this is true from what Trump is doing. Apart from seeing him as a racist (which I am not sure yet), while he is chasing other immigrants, he wants the white South Africans to relocate there. Sure, it will strengthen pro-white republicans, but he is primarily targeting wealthy South Africans, the majority of whom are farmers. So, he stylishly wants to hijack South African food security mechanism. That's just it. Quite smart. People just see it as a form of racism, but that guy is damn smart.
What can you offer? If you think you can't offer anything yet, you can actually learn a skill. Anyone can do it. Before you know it, within 5 years, you will move. But at the end, you may not want to leave. That's the thing.
My message in a sentence is: Everyone should learn a distruptive or an evergreen skill.
I will need to question your submission a little bit.
Donât advise people to go in for student visa to enter the UK. What happens when the student visa runs out. They will apply for a two year graduate route. This is where it gets interesting. Most people who go in via student visa are not interested in learning. They outsource their courseworks. They know nothing. So how will they interview to secure jobs in one of these shortage occupations list.
There are many of them who graduated with âdistinctionsâ in their masters but are still looking for jobs since they canât any interviews. Why? They didnât earn that âdistinctionâ grade, they paid someone to do it for them. Now the hen has come home to roost. After 2-year of graduate route, UK govt always tell them to leave the UK and go back to their countries. Back to square one. It beats me why someone will pay like 15,000 pounds in tuition without gaining anything from such a course. Such a waste.
Letâs talk about the care workers route which you raised. The home office is tracking them. The home office is aware that majority of them are not being paid the agreed minimum wage. Majority are not getting any jobs from their care homes, some are working few days in a week. The home office has the data. This is a direct violation of the UK immigration law and the home office will not issue them indefinite leave to remain when the time comes for it. Rather they will be asked to depart the UK and go back to their countries. So getting indefinite stay via the care route is not as easy as you made it sound.
People need to evaluate and think hard before determining to travel to anywhere.
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epainos: 12:14pm On Feb 23 |
MT:
You wrote a beautiful piece but ruined it with the exaggeration about the US. There are opportunities in all the nations of the world if you could match your skills with the available opportunities.
I did not write that there aren't opportunities elsewhere, so I apologise if any find it too exagerating. I only said that the US is a land of opportunities. And I based my recommend of the US and the UK on several reasons which are beyond the scope of this discussion. But I agree that matching ones skill with available opportunities is the key, and it is the reason I wrote in one of my posts that we should learn an evergreen or a distruptive innovative skill.
US has peaked and now in decline. Most jobs have left to Asia. For instance, look at Detroit, itâs now a shadow of its old days. This was one of the reasons Trump became aggressive and attempting to use tariff to bring the job back to the US. Jobs are leaving and US is mounting unsustainable debts. Thatâs why Trump established DOGE to reduce federal expenses by sacking most federal workers. Canât you see Americans crying on TV after being sacked and a lot are going to be sacked this week. What do you think will happen to the employment market?; it will become bloated again.
I like your view and it makes sense. To let's look at another view which prompted me to write in such manner.
I agree and disagree that jobs aren't in the US. Here is my take: there is no more job because they deliberately exported factory jobs to where they are cheaper, and such led to closure of many factories. Do you know how the labour union is powerful in the US? I believe you know cos of the way you write, but for the benefit of others, I will employ them to check who Senator Sanders is. Lol. Which company have they not tackled in the US? I mean the labor people. Lol. To the extent that uber drivers too dey make mouth. Se na Naija Uber drivers go dey give Uber conditions? If you know what the taxi association has done to Uber there. So, to avoid labor wahala, they just exported most unskilled factory jobs to China. And this is where Nigeria messed up. Had it been that we have a steady electricity, OMG. Nigeria might have cut off at least 15% of the jobs pushed to China.
So, I think the situation hasn't got to the state you describe the US as a shadow of itself. For example, this new automobile tarrif will prevent importation of cars, and encourage producers to revive the industry in the US. And I repeat that instead of handing over salaries to the majority of unskilled workers who will use the labor to frustrate them, they will simply prefer to hand over the money to artificial Intelligence and robotic billionaires like Elon Musk, Bezos, Zakerburg, etc.
It sound illogical that Elon is ing a man who looks like he is against Tesla, but think deep. The era of robots taking over jobs is likely very around because I honestly don't know how they will cope for the next four years with all that is going on except that they will start deploying robots on farms, factories, and in many other places to cover up tje areas illegal immigrants are filling up.
Whether we like it or not, all obsolete hands will end up being useless. And I predict the US and other developed nations will roll out plans to cater for losers in this game in the next 15 to 20 years to take care of their old age. As long as robots and other innovative ways can get the job done, they will simply find a way to take care of the loser. Meaning that there will be more poor people there. This will be the truth we are running away from. And this exactly is what billionaires want. They want to control everything and everyone. Many will be "comfortable slaves" in their nations very soon.
You claimed fun is everywhere in the US, have you been to Maine, South Dakota, North Dakota, Idaho, Nebraska just to mention a few, If you have done, you would rewrite your piece.
I agree, but there is no immigration law of restriction in the US like in Canada. There are no states policies there too that you can only work in a certain state, and that if a state invites you, you stay there for a number of years. Why? Because they have ed that stage. Just get yourself there and decide of you want the NY bursting and hustling life, the Florida oceanic warm weather, the California technological life, or maybe the Oklahoma traditional lifestyle. So, if you are bored in the states you have mentioned, you can move elsewhere without creating distortion like that of Canada. This is just the only reason I wrote that about Canada.
You got your piece right on Canada. I have written so much about it in the past here. Why Nigerians rush to that country will forever beat me.
Someone said it is a stepping stone to the US which I agree with, and many have done so. Also, it is a paradise to anyone living in this present hell called Nigeria. Lol.
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planetx: 12:30pm On Feb 23 |
epainos:
See question. Lol. That's why they are called opportunities. And not just an opportunity. You are too careless. I wrote.opportunities in my post. Chai. Anyway, they arent for everyone, but for the smart ones. Since you ask this question, you aren't smart. Smart people ask smart questions. Therefore, the more you look, the less you see. Lol. I can't "shalaye" myself further.
How much of the so called opportunities in the US have you taken advantage of, or is it just what you heard and you are here trying to sound smart lol.
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epainos: 12:33pm On Feb 23 |
MT:
I will need to question your submission a little bit.
Donât advise people to go in for student visa to enter the UK. What happens when the student visa runs out. They will apply for a two year graduate route. This is where it gets interesting. Most people who go in via student visa are not interested in learning. They outsource their courseworks. They know nothing. So how will they interview to secure jobs in one of these shortage occupations list.
There are many of them who graduated with âdistinctionsâ in their masters but are still looking for jobs since they canât any interviews. Why? They didnât earn that âdistinctionâ grade, they paid someone to do it for them. Now the hen has come home to roost. After 2-year of graduate route, UK govt always tell them to leave the UK and go back to their countries. Back to square one. It beats me why someone will pay like 15,000 pounds in tuition without gaining anything from such a course. Such a waste.
Letâs talk about the care workers route which you raised. The home office is tracking them. The home office is aware that majority of them are not being paid the agreed minimum wage. Majority are not getting any jobs from their care homes, some are working few days in a week. The home office has the data. This is a direct violation of the UK immigration law and the home office will not issue them indefinite leave to remain when the time comes for it. Rather they will be asked to depart the UK and go back to their countries. So getting indefinite stay via the care route is not as easy as you made it sound.
People need to evaluate and think hard before determining to travel to anywhere.
Thanks for the way you have balanced my posts because na go dem hear here...and demno hear come. Lol.
Again, I wrote what I wrote for the sake of making things legal and proper. While the scenario you described is the reality, my suggestion is still legal and the best for now.
Firstly, I wrote that the person must have money. So, I do not encourage any hustler to do it.
Secondly, they have better opportunities now to be retained before the brexit period. I agree that many of them cannot be employed in what they went there to study; however, I am just still writing about what is possible. Again, it is the reason I said we should all acquire an evergreen or a distruptive innovative skill. I bet you don't know how many have criticised me saying that. Lol. The truth is that the average Nigerian just want to japa anyhow. They always say that not everyone have the brain to do it, but they must japa. Lol. So, I think I should just at least say what is available.
The reality is that as long as menial jobs look good for starting reasonable projects here, they will want to japa. But the reality is that surviving there now is harder which no one will want to listen to.
So what is available to many students after finishing their studies is still the care sponsorship path leading to an indefinite stay permit. While there are many sponsors that have been shut down reducing the opportunities there, students have very high chances of securing such jobs after their studies if they are serious. If one wants to be legal and forgetting about whatever program one attended there, are you saying it is hard to get a care job? Are you saying one cannot secure a care job after studying even when one is on a graduate visa? 2 to 3 years grace to look for a sponsor is more than enough bro. Yes, it is hard. Yes, it is not that rewarding financially. But to do it legally, are you saying this is not possible?
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epainos: 12:36pm On Feb 23 |
planetx:
How much of the so called opportunities in the US have you taken advantage of, or is it just what you heard and you are here trying to sound smart lol.
You sound like a battered man who has been refused a US visa several times and is irritated by the sound of the name.
I would rather engage with others who are cultured in their responses so that our discussion can yield positive results than with a bitter soul like you.
Good bye!
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SeriouslySense(m): 12:56pm On Feb 23 |
I learned from your comment. thank you.
epainos:
Yeah, that was some years ago when Canada was booming with its many routes. You guys don't understand what is going on. Let me explain since your response is like someone not attacking me like others.
Firstly, I like your idea to remain in Naija instead of the UK. You are right, but hmmm....its a bit tricky. The UK has made it so hard that ONLY genuine people can enter. So, in a way, it will favor people there because bad people will not spoil the place. If you have the money, you can enter the UK, live there, and enjoy it. But most people from developing nations don't have it. Going abroad is to hustle for the most people. And they will get there and not improve their skills wanting to only do menial jobs to survive, and use their money to"oppress" their family and friends back home. Lol. Note the word "survive" abroad. Lol. UK has locked up for like 19 years but after Brexit, they were forced to open the health related routes and Nigeria messed them up again. And again, they have locked them up. Lol. Yeah, the path to the UK citizenship is too hard, but as long as one has a work permit to work and live legally there, it is worth it. And again, if one is smart and equipped with one of these innovative skills most nations want, the journey wil be smooth.
Now, let me talk about Canada. The way Canada used to make noise, I thought it was a superb nation. I checking their GDP and per capita, and I was not not feeling it though they look good. I never for a day put in effort to that nation. Then, I looked at the population of each province, and then, I saw something. Most people don't research the way I do because they just don't understand economics, finance, and politics. They think politics is Naija style..lol. And then, I looked at the GDP of each province, and that was when I realised that Ontario and some other places are ok, but the rest are not rich. Hmmm. I then realised that Canada actually wants to fill other places. The tricky issue is that over 70% of the immigrants since the late 90s they started accepting immigrants live in Ontario. Wow. And till date, immigrants after fulfilling the regions that give them stay, they jump to Ontario mostly, and few to Aberta, Manitoba, and Saskatchewan. British Columbia is out of reach because the elites won't allow common people there...too expensive for many. So, Ontario is getting so expensive too, and opportunities are limited now.
What does my explanation mean? Canada has not found a way to encourage people to live in other provinces apart from mainly Ontario, and then Albeta. People will pretend to want to live in other provinces, and after they have secured their residency, they will move to Ontario making the Canadian government effort fruitless. And why is it like this? It is simply because there is something they aren't telling us. GDP and capita are just numbers that smart nations easily push up. Now, there are no more jobs for people in Ontario. And they had to stop many of their programs and find other ways to make people stay in other provinces.
So. What is the truth? People stay where there are opportunities, life and fun. Period. There isn't fun in other places in Canada. People who tried staying in other provinces complain of loneliness. Lol. It can be a curse to be too big na. Lol. Canada is extremely huge.
Now to the real truth. Trump has shown us that the Canadian economy relies on the US. Period. If the US decides to crush them, they are gone.
While I am not saying you should not go there and fulfill your dream if it is for you, I am just saying that there is no place on earth with massive opportunities like the US presently. Where you wan talk about in the US and mention depression? No where. Where fun no dey in the US? No where.
Best of luck!
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