NewStats: 3,263,570 , 8,180,569 topics. Date: Friday, 06 June 2025 at 02:33 PM 4f2c14

Roland17:


Anything to defend Arteta. Now, we are reading the owners have no ed Arteta in the transfer market since he ed because he did not get 190M that Pep got in January. Baba, I’d rather we sell them and make some money abeg because Arteta will never rotate his squad even for tactical reasons until he is forced by injuries or suspension.

When it comes to Nwaneri and MLS, I keep reading in hindsight, in hindsight! All we had to do was give them opportunities to see what we have before he was forced to. That way, you know how to approach the transfer market, knowing you have great prospects in certain positions that are ready for the first team. Some of us were already asking for first team participation but no, he would rather Chelsea scraps and young prospects outside Hale.

Imagine we continued the bidding war with Chelsea over drug lord Mudryk like Arteta wanted? Shebi na here we for dey reading another spinning and amala turning.

Each time I mikano I always thank Chelsea for hijacking the deal because I am sure we won’t have recovered up till now
Now they are indirectly tagging mls and Ethan success to same arteta that was pushing our youngsters out of the club
When Odegaard was injured he refused to use Ethan, one of the reasons we are doing catch me if you can with lfc
Some of them even say Ethan is not ready, miracle no they tire Jesus 🤣🤣

No one claim Arteta don't have his fault.

But I know that Arteta system depends on the kind of defenders and midfielders than striker.
That's why he went for Cala straight after the euros.

But to.be changing and chopping manager.

Look at Everton since Moyes left they've had not less than 3 managers .
Now we are hoping they give him life contract. He's not gonna take them beyond 7th to 9th but he will compete over the lower positions.

Spy360:

Whatever you have said didn't address the main issue.

You have overlooked the owners.

If they feel as you do that Arteta is a failure because he wasted 90m as you claim then let them sack him.

The fact that they are offering him new contracts almost every two years shows that they are satisfied with him. That is where you should be worried and not critiquing Arteta.

If they really want him to succeed as you do, let them spoil him with expensive and quality toys.

Look at Ancelotti, for all the accolades he has nice toys to play with. So being a good manager he wins at will. Same as Pep.

As for Slot, he is yet to show proves. Arteta had been in his position two seasons ago. So there's nothing strange unless he does bottle it. Even if he does, we will give him his due flowers. It's not easy.

Hahahahaaaaa. The easiest way to wriggle out of first bringing up Amorim, then 190M and Pep is to say the owners have not fired him. There is a reason he is not being offered long term contracts but 2 year extensions, essentially every other year. My position about Arteta isn’t limited to his failures in managing our transfers, it is exhaustive and I have detailed them here severally, you should dig into it.

The expectations of the owners may vary from the fans. What fans define as success may be different from owners. I will use the Dallas Cowboys as an example. They are the most valuable American sports franchise but they have not won a superbowl in 29 years. Jerry Jones and Steven (Owners) are not bothered and don’t see a problem because they fill the stadiums but the fans are at the verge of rioting because of the failures on the field.

Owners may not have the same sense of urgency as long as the stadium is full and merchandise is selling. It doesn’t translate into success for the fans and that is how “I” feel. How many times have you seen our owners at the stadium? They only care about the finances because it is a business for them.

Lush100:
No one claim Arteta don't have his fault.

But I know that Arteta system depends on the kind of defenders and midfielders than striker.
That's why he went for Cala straight after the euros.

But to.be changing and chopping manager.

Look at Everton since Moyes left they've had not less than 3 managers .
Now we are hoping they give him life contract. He's not gonna take them beyond 7th to 9th but he will compete over the lower positions.

Alaye stay one place
Now compare arsenal and everton if they are in the same class, the same everton ancelotti couldn't help
Unless you want us to be comparing arteta and moyes now
So arteta is the best thing that happens to arsenal all of a sudden because I don't understand how moyes and life contract enter this conversation
We should also try to give arteta one abi

Spy360:

Merino was signed to replace Partey in the midfield. The reason you have the privilege to complain is because Partey is fit and in great form. Something that should surprise you if you're honest with your analysis.

Calafiori and Merino provide us solid options whether from the bench or as starters. Something we have always wanted.

Against Leicester, it was Calafiori who created the chance for Trossard to assist Merino who scored.

Think about this.

When Partey was benched for Merino at the start of the season, how did that go? Did he not get exposed? Isn’t that why he is strapped to the bench? If Merino was that good, Partey would be in Saudi by January! Again, you are helping me make points.

Merino is that good but we are out there chasing Zubimendi? If Partey leaves, would Merino bench Zubi? Without Partey and with Zubi can Merino break into the first team? If we don’t get Zubi, would you trust that position to Merino? I mean, this isn’t too hard na.

iamoyindamola:

Alaye stay one place
Now compare arsenal and everton if they are in the same class, the same everton ancelotti couldn't help
Unless you want us to be comparing arteta and moyes now
So arteta is the best thing that happens to arsenal all of a sudden because I don't understand how moyes and life contract enter this conversation
We should also try to give arteta one abi

Oga go and sack him na.

Or go and coach a team.

See u talking out of point

Lush100:


Oga go and sack him na.

Or go and coach a team.

See u talking out of point

Lol
You bringing moyes into it is not out of point

A soju wa.. guys go and bring out our mortal

germaphobe:

Be careful of what you wish for bro.

You have to beat the champions to become a champion.

Roland17:


When Partey was benched for Merino at the start of the season, how did that go? Did he not get exposed? Isn’t that why he is strapped to the bench? If Merino was that good, Partey would be in Saudi by January! Again, you are helping me make points.

Merino is that good but we are out there chasing Zubimendi? If Partey leaves, would Merino bench Zubi? Without Partey and with Zubi can Merino break into the first team? If we don’t get Zubi, would you trust that position to Merino? I mean, this isn’t too hard na.

I no go lie, I dey on the same line of thought

iamoyindamola:

Each time I mikano I always thank Chelsea for hijacking the deal because I am sure we won’t have recovered up till now
Now they are indirectly tagging mls and Ethan success to same arteta that was pushing our youngsters out of the club
When Odegaard was injured he refused to use Ethan, one of the reasons we are doing catch me if you can with lfc
Some of them even say Ethan is not ready, miracle no they tire Jesus 🤣🤣

what if, just what if we signed mudryk and he turned out good for us, I mean he was that good before and our bottling coach have been credited with bringing out the best in players.
Nwaneri and skelly have always been with the first team and he maintained that he didn't want to rush them. He fuccked up by not playing Nwaneri when Odegaard was out but that's what it it already. If you don't credit Arteta with both boys success who would you give the accolades?, the fan?. I think Arteta even trusted Skelly more than Nwaneri and that is probably because he is the coach and knows better than us who only see and hear what the media wants us to see and hear.

iamoyindamola:

Kompany that brought burney from relegation is who you are comparing to arteta
Make arteta take championship job first and survive na

Real fast question. If and only if the club fire Arteta, would you be comfortable and suggest Kompany as replacement 🤔

Lush100:


Oga go and sack him na.

Or go and coach a team.

See u talking out of point

Calm down boss, no fight, no stress. Everybody can't be on the same line of thought. But truly you no suppose mention Everton matter, na lowest low to compare with their argument.

iamoyindamola:

Lol
You bringing moyes into it is not out of point

I guess your mention of Kompany made him think of something as low as that too. ✌️

Baba.....someone here said they should give Moyes life contract and I was like Moyes that will no go higher than 9th at best 7th....so the issue of chopping and changing no work for Everton....they now bought their former coach back....the guy didn't win any trophy oh..Moyes....but they mentioned his name ...that was what brought Moyes.


Let me ask u want to buy a player they say he is 50M ...u can only pay 35M and u need player... is either you go for the one that u can get for 35M or y play your season without a player.

That was brought Merino and the zumbadedi guy.

N.a. Zum guy Arteta wan but but the club no gree for that price..he went for merino.


Same thing with Vintunha and that Porto softy....Vitinha finally went to PSG.

Same thing with Rice and conceido.

We actually kept bidding for rice.
So.its money. Abi u think 105M na small.money.

I'm.sure a lot of people will have said he could have got 2 midfielder with that kind of money...they are right....it now.depends on the coach and the club...if the club is ready to drop that money and the coach ..if he know other areas will.be affected by that budget.
Now we are here over 90M.

U need players...but u need 4 ..u know the area u need most and manage the area your money left can.manage.
So.amd look.at Arteta system....
He need defenders more than striker .
Why do.u think Kwiwor and Zinny have been on bench even with crisis...

The coach know what he can manage and what he needs depending on.budget....na so we talk say make e make.mistake buy Raya when Ramsadale though a good stopper cost us game and goals for lack of concentration.

When last did we beat Mancity even with all their player injured with Pep as manager.
The aura alone go make u fear.

Liverpool.spend 60M.on Konate.
We want but compete team.with 90M

To be spectator or pundit no hard at all. How many pundit even that man U former captain succeed even no pressure of challenging for title.

Dem no dey consider money when dey talk.
Just looking for blame up and down.

Company brought Burnley and also relegated them.
How.many people will accept and not call it a fluke.

Roland17:


When Partey was benched for Merino at the start of the season, how did that go? Did he not get exposed? Isn’t that why he is strapped to the bench? If Merino was that good, Partey would be in Saudi by January! Again, you are helping me make points.

Merino is that good but we are out there chasing Zubimendi? If Partey leaves, would Merino bench Zubi? Without Partey and with Zubi can Merino break into the first team? If we don’t get Zubi, would you trust that position to Merino? I mean, this isn’t too hard na.

Merino coming in for Partey does not mean they share the same position. Actually, it's Rice who drops to DM (Partey's position) and Merino plays as a LCM.

The backup for Partey is Rice and not Merino. Merino is a backup for Rice not Partey.

Zubimendi is the desired person to take up Partey's position next season if he leaves which doubt he will. He would be offered a one year contract. The person leaving is Jorginho.

That was a hasty conclusion by you because you wanted to score a cheap point 😂

Roland17:


Hahahahaaaaa. The easiest way to wriggle out of first bringing up Amorim, then 190M and Pep is to say the owners have not fired him. There is a reason he is not being offered long term contracts but 2 year extensions, essentially every other year. My position about Arteta isn’t limited to his failures in managing our transfers, it is exhaustive and I have detailed them here severally, you should dig into it.

The expectations of the owners may vary from the fans. What fans define as success may be different from owners. I will use the Dallas Cowboys as an example. They are the most valuable American sports franchise but they have not won a superbowl in 29 years. Jerry Jones and Steven (Owners) are not bothered and don’t see a problem because they fill the stadiums but the fans are at the verge of rioting because of the failures on the field.

Owners may not have the same sense of urgency as long as the stadium is full and merchandise is selling. It doesn’t translate into success for the fans and that is how “I” feel. How many times have you seen our owners at the stadium? They only care about the finances because it is a business for them.

As per the bolded you are gradually coming to with my point. That is the reason why you should be looking at the owners to blame and not Arteta.

I raised the issues of Amorim and the 190m to make you defend it and it has led us to this common ground.

You have clearly and correctly stated that winning titles depends largely on the commitment of the owners citing the Dallas Cowboys as example.

If indeed we fans want titles we should be looking at whether the Kroenke's are thinking like us and if they are not we call them out.

Arsenal have made huge profits this year according to reports and so we must demand that part of it being translated to titles for the fans.

Can the owners release 200m for Arteta to play with without needing to sell any of his current crop? That money can easily fetch us a solid midfielder and two powerful forwards.

It is then we can now hold Arteta responsible if the season doesn't end with a major title at least.

You cannot give a man a piece of stick to fight a lion and expect him to come out victorious just like that

germaphobe:

I guess your mention of Kompany made him think of something as low as that too. ✌️

Lol
Who started the mention of kompany😂

germaphobe:

Real fast question. If and only if the club fire Arteta, would you be comfortable and suggest Kompany as replacement 🤔

Why not didn't he get a job at Bayern and they are bigger than arsenal
So what are we saying

germaphobe:
what if, just what if we signed mudryk and he turned out good for us, I mean he was that good before and our bottling coach have been credited with bringing out the best in players.
Nwaneri and skelly have always been with the first team and he maintained that he didn't want to rush them. He fuccked up by not playing Nwaneri when Odegaard was out but that's what it it already. If you don't credit Arteta with both boys success who would you give the accolades?, the fan?. I think Arteta even trusted Skelly more than Nwaneri and that is probably because he is the coach and knows better than us who only see and hear what the media wants us to see and hear.

I won't give him the credit of the boys because he actually doesn't trust them until they proved him wrong. He was literally forced to integrate them into the team, we know this but we have defended him, when we lost chido was what led to the fast integration of these 2.
We have been there before he also sent saliba away because of a mistake(if not for the love saliba have we would have lost him because of arteta treatment), he sent the likes of patino, Azeez and dubbery away because of lack of trust because of a manager doesn't trust you, you are not needed
Let's be honest, Azeez is far better than sambi while dubbery is far better than maquinhos
Is he not better having academy players as squad players than buying some flops

As for mikano his deal can only be like that pepe, I am glad Chelsea took the hit because we won't recover as we are limited in spending

Spy360:

As per the bolded you are gradually coming to with my point. That is the reason why you should be looking at the owners to blame and not Arteta.

I raised the issues of Amorim and the 190m to make you defend it and it has led us to this common ground.

You have clearly and correctly stated that winning titles depends largely on the commitment of the owners citing the Dallas Cowboys as example.

If indeed we fans want titles we should be looking at whether the Kroenke's are thinking like us and if they are not we call them out.

Arsenal have made huge profits this year according to reports and so we must demand that part of it being translated to titles for the fans.

Can the owners release 200m for Arteta to play with without needing to sell any of his current crop? That money can easily fetch us a solid midfielder and two powerful forwards.

It is then we can now hold Arteta responsible if the season doesn't end with a major title at least.

You cannot give a man a piece of stick to fight a lion and expect him to come out victorious just like that

Don't worry just wait for it he will soon get wengay treatment which will eventually lead to his sack because if fans start boycotting matches and they lose revenue he won't be needed

Let's talk about the management not helping before wengay left there was a leak he was offered 200m to rebuild the squad to compete but he somehow didn't spend 80% of the funds
The fans got to know this and that was the beginning of his downfall with fans, ebening came he tried to use the resources available to him and use his scout to get some cheap buys and also bought in saka and esr to add to nelson, iwobi and willock
The mgt decided to sign a marque player for ebening he identified zaha but considering his age bracket that time(28) they wanted a younger version which they brought pepe and we know the rest.
After ebening departure, the fans went against the mgt for mismanagement of arsenal which led to josh taking over his busy father position at arsenal, he listened to the fans cry because Spotify was strongly linked to taking over arsenal and they were using arsenal legends (th14 and viera) and the fans to push it.
Josh met with the mgt to get young coach that has the club DNA, same with football director. Arteta was unveiled, edu came in year after, now they have a plan.
His half season with us we won the fa cup, that's honestly a good potential for me I won't lie and he was immediately promoted to the role of a manager.
He started his rebuilding immediately because funds were available, that season he finished 8th, the next season we finished 5th after some bottle jobs because we held 4th position for a long period, then 2nd this is more painful and reason I have given up on him because this bottling is spiritual we led the table for 93% of the season I can never forgive him for this)
Last season another little bottle job and we finished 2nd)
Arteta have spent 791m since he came onboard on 28 players that's average of 28m per player, only 15 can be considered good buy if we add merino and calafiori with only 2 community shields as trophy because he didn't spend to win the fa cup
Now to the mgt, last season we were really close to city in the table even a blind man could see what we need were CF, RW and DM
The board decided to half the transfer budget and instruct them to sell to add funds to the budget moreover arteta is used to small squad
He sold nketiah, esr, ramsdale and brought in merino and calafiori meaning we didn't fulfil our transfer plan

Where did the board have fault here?
Why can't we sell the players we don't need which I am dead sure we will sell for loss to raise funds?
Is winning community shield twice a good reward for spending 791m?
Last what's his obsession with getting Chelsea waste product every season?

Spy360:

As per the bolded you are gradually coming to with my point. That is the reason why you should be looking at the owners to blame and not Arteta.

I raised the issues of Amorim and the 190m to make you defend it and it has led us to this common ground.

You have clearly and correctly stated that winning titles depends largely on the commitment of the owners citing the Dallas Cowboys as example.

If indeed we fans want titles we should be looking at whether the Kroenke's are thinking like us and if they are not we call them out.

Arsenal have made huge profits this year according to reports and so we must demand that part of it being translated to titles for the fans.

Can the owners release 200m for Arteta to play with without needing to sell any of his current crop? That money can easily fetch us a solid midfielder and two powerful forwards.

It is then we can now hold Arteta responsible if the season doesn't end with a major title at least.

You cannot give a man a piece of stick to fight a lion and expect him to come out victorious just like that

Just look at what you are typing and this is why I say many of you should invest into different aspects of the game. There is no common ground here because you are only looking for how to excuse Arteta’s failures and I am refusing to excuse it.

For the record, Arsenal actually declared a “Loss” in the amount of 17M Euros last financial year. This is the 3rd consecutive season we are declaring a loss and are now projected to declare a loss for 24/25. Arsenal player wages ranks 2nd in the EPL. What does that tell you? Do you understand the implications? That means the owners have invested heavily in the team.

You may want to know the difference in the levels of investment between the Cowboys and Arsenal. The Cowboys have near 0 investment outside of their draft picks (why am I even explaining, you no go understand) when compared to Arsenal who ranks 2nd.

We should give Arteta 200M to play with. Hahahaha.. I have realized you guys would say anything just to defend Arteta or excuse his failures at this point. He is welcome to resign since we don’t have 200M for him to play with. Whenever I start reading some outlandish things I just realize it’s not worth debating any further.

Things we pray for

iamoyindamola:

Why not didn't he get a job at Bayern and they are bigger than arsenal
So what are we saying

🤔🙅🙆‍♂️

iamoyindamola:

I won't give him the credit of the boys because he actually doesn't trust them until they proved him wrong. He was literally forced to integrate them into the team, we know this but we have defended him, when we lost chido was what led to the fast integration of these 2.
We have been there before he also sent saliba away because of a mistake(if not for the love saliba have we would have lost him because of arteta treatment), he sent the likes of patino, Azeez and dubbery away because of lack of trust because of a manager doesn't trust you, you are not needed
Let's be honest, Azeez is far better than sambi while dubbery is far better than maquinhos
Is he not better having academy players as squad players than buying some flops

As for mikano his deal can only be like that pepe, I am glad Chelsea took the hit because we won't recover as we are limited in spending

patino failed everyone who had faith in him including myself, I can never put him in the conversation. Azeez, we can see his level and I don't know if he would have leveled up in our setup but I don't miss him one bit. Dubbery, he made his choice, he was offered something good but chose to leave( e pain me shaa). Chido, mmhmmm... he thought he was ready but the truth is he didn't love the club enough to stay because for someone coming from u16, being promoted to u18 and u21 and appearance with the first team would have been enough for him. Don't forget he's a forward and we already have Jesus and Havertz ahead of him, so I don't understand how a teenager like that would want automatic place or something close to that for a team attempting to win the league. Which team and division does he play for United now?.
If Arteta didn't believe in Nwaneri would he have given him his debut at 15?, played him a couple of times in lower competitions?, he's integration was slow but I won't say it was because of chido that he was forced in because he even went for preseason with the team. Skelly had his debut against man city and first start in a ucl match, isn't that trust enough?. Like I said, he's the coach and knows better than us. Saliba wasn't ready for epl according to him and he sent the boy for another loan season which saliba himself have said was the turning point in his career, And it turned out good for everyone. Mudryk is a case study, Antony for example is balling now after being such a flop for United, maybe, just maybe Mudryk would have turned out good for us too. You forget our set up takes wingers to the edge and that favours him.

germaphobe:
patino failed everyone who had faith in him including myself, I can never put him in the conversation. Azeez, we can see his level and I don't know if he would have leveled up in our setup but I don't miss him one bit. Dubbery, he made his choice, he was offered something good but chose to leave( e pain me shaa). Chido, mmhmmm... he thought he was ready but the truth is he didn't love the club enough to stay because for someone coming from u16, being promoted to u18 and u21 and appearance with the first team would have been enough for him. Don't forget he's a forward and we already have Jesus and Havertz ahead of him, so I don't understand how a teenager like that would want automatic place or something close to that for a team attempting to win the league. Which team and division does he play for United now?.
If Arteta didn't believe in Nwaneri would he have given him his debut at 15?, played him a couple of times in lower competitions?, he's integration was slow but I won't say it was because of chido that he was forced in because he even went for preseason with the team. Skelly had his debut against man city and first start in a ucl match, isn't that trust enough?. Like I said, he's the coach and knows better than us. Saliba wasn't ready for epl according to him and he sent the boy for another loan season which saliba himself have said was the turning point in his career, And it turned out good for everyone. Mudryk is a case study, Antony for example is balling now after being such a flop for United, maybe, just maybe Mudryk would have turned out good for us too. You forget our set up takes wingers to the edge and that favours him.

Bro these youngsters I am not saying they are ready
But there’s a sense of belonging they need to show they are wanted or needed, let them feel they have hope
We all saw how ebening started saka and esr but this arteta we will play efl or dead rubber match he will ignore the youngsters
Saliba said it then and we felt he was ranting
How do you want them to feel when the likes of sambi and Marquinhos was gotten ahead of them

iamoyindamola:

Bro these youngsters I am not saying they are ready
But there’s a sense of belonging they need to show they are wanted or needed, let them feel they have hope
We all saw how ebening started saka and esr but this arteta we will play efl or dead rubber match he will ignore the youngsters
Saliba said it then and we felt he was ranting
How do you want them to feel when the likes of sambi and Marquinhos was gotten ahead of them

You're complaining over nothing. Arteta has integrated the boys. Whether you believe he was forced to do some not means nothing.

What matters is the fact that they are thriving under him.

Arteta should be sack then you guys will know where you belong, A coach has consistently build your team to be a title contender, being in the top 2 for the past 3 years, yet you want the coach to be relieve of his job

Merino replace sterling

Good one

Calafiori replace MLS, roland17 arteta is in nairaland🤣🤣

iamoyindamola:
Merino replace sterling

Good one

Calafiori replace MLS, roland17 arteta is in nairaland🤣🤣

I suspect you or spy.

But spy arsenal did not make profit this year.
We had the highest revenue ever generated.

I believe the owners took back their borrowed funds for the year.

We made a 17.7M loss for year ending last year as against 52M plus before last year.
We are in for a profit this year. With our champion's league exploit and no spending.

Some decent runs for merino
He just need to connect with one

iamoyindamola:
Some decent runs for merino
He just need to connect with one

the guy times his runs and has been decent