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NOETHNICITY:
I like the fact that you used the term ‘likely’. Meaning you are not sure!!!

I just gave you one prove above, if you really seek the truth I expect you to check it out.
And there many more where this came from.

Doesn’t it brother you that when your scripture is challenged, you quickly refer to the Quran.

Christian biblical scholars themselves are the ones who say the Bible is not preserved.

For example if you read the story of the adulterous women in the NIV you will see a caption informing you that that age doesn’t exist in earliest manuscripts.
Meaning it was dropped in there by people.

I don't refer to the Koran for anything. Feel free to continue to read the Bible.

Druss:


The Arabic word for GOD is Allah. The Muslims call their god Allah. The Christian GOD is not the same as the Muslim one. There is no aspect here.

Allah bless you for this.

NOETHNICITY:
Well, textual criticism scholars differ greatly.
You have a right to think whatever you like, that is however not thesame thing as objective truth. And the objective truth at this point is that the Bible hasn’t been preserved and it has been proven to contain human interferences and interpolations
Says who? Christian scholars themselves.

(1) What justifies them to be called Christian scholars?
(2) What qualifies them to be Christians?

NOETHNICITY:
Well, textual criticism scholars differ greatly.
You have a right to think whatever you like, that is however not thesame thing as objective truth. And the objective truth at this point is that the Bible hasn’t been preserved and it has been proven to contain human interferences and interpolations
Says who? Christian scholars themselves.

(1) Who makes them to be christian scholars?
(2) What qualifies them to be christians?

Samunique:



Did you just mention the Spirit of God

Pls where is the Spirit of God in Islam, pls show us, and what is his role in Islam ?

And where is he mentioned in the Quran regarding Islam and the fake prophet of Islam

Hey Abobby, you are going far. Have you ever seen where people rush to meet up on prayer session in reverence and observation to their creator in any other religion asides Islam?

That alone is a good for thought!

Don’t play!

Antivirus92:
you have just refused to learn. Your type don't improve on anything. You're as stagnant as islam

And it’s your type that are full with insults with zero knowledge and enlightenment to impact on others. Keep up in your ignorance.

Antivirus92:
if you actually believed what you typed there, then there is serious problem with your understanding.

History said that Muhammad came in with the Jews through trade. He learnt about their religion and their holy book. He then corrupted the holy book, made amendments to it, replaced some names with his own and a new religion was born. Mohamed was just a conman

Hmmm, wonders shall never cease.

If indeed it was this manner as you claim, don’t you think everyone would have formed their own ways too as well…?

Take it or leave it, islam is mankind.

If you read the Quran, you will feel the signs of divinity in a rational sense…!

Antivirus92:
if you actually believed what you typed there, then there is serious problem with your understanding.

History said that Muhammad came in with the Jews through trade. He learnt about their religion and their holy book. He then corrupted the holy book, made amendments to it, replaced some names with his own and a new religion was born. Mohamed was just a conman

Hmmm, wonders shall never cease.

If indeed it was this manner as you claim, don’t you think everyone would have formed their own ways too as well…?

Take it or leave it, islam is mankind.

If you should read the Quran, you will feel the signs of divinity in a rational sense…!

babajero:
so you are confirming that Muhammad was possessed by the devil to turn the Bible upside down.

Muslims you people don't pray at all, all you people do is to rub your head on the ground to manifest the Mark of the beast on your foreheads.

haaaa.. e show! you don’t know what you’re saying. God has indeed made it so..! He said “he opens the eyes of those whom he wills”.

Get that! Let it sink in…

Afolue:
haaaa.. e show! you don’t know what you’re saying. God has indeed made it so..! He said “he opens the eyes of those whom he wills”.

Get that! Let it sink in…

well it depends on the kind of God that open the eyes of a man like muhammed.

Afolue:


Hey Abobby, you are going far. Have you ever seen where people rush to meet up on prayer session in reverence and observation to their creator in any other religion asides Islam?

That alone is a good for thought!

Don’t play!

Hahaha

Is that your answer?

Even Baal worshipers could do better and are more ionate than that.

Pls show me the role of God's Spirit in Islam with references from the Quran

Samunique:
Hahaha

Is that your answer?

Even Baal worshipers could do better and are more ionate than that.

Pls show me the role of God's Spirit in Islam with references from the Quran

Samunique:
Hahaha

Is that your answer?

Even Baal worshipers could do better and are more ionate than that.

Pls show me the role of God's Spirit in Islam with references from the Quran

You will not understand. God has made it so!

Islam is mankind. Get that!

No matter what I say, or explain to you, still won’t be clear and understandable…

Where ever you step your feet into on this planet earth, even the deaf, gets notifications on the called to prayer every now and then of the day. From the early morning as from past 5am different location. That’s God’s spirit. It’s not ordinary. Them no dey taya? Never is it so!

Every second of the clock, all over the world Muslims are observing prayers due to time zones ! That’s God’s spirit…!

Where is God’s spirit in churches where even the deeper lifers are in retreat not having anything to do with Christmas affairs, JW, their own no be hear. No ask yourself if truly you can indeed discern the signs of God’s spirit. If you can’t, the God has made it so!

During Ramadan before it commences, all Muslims in the world are waiting on same one observation to carry out the usual as instructed and ordained. That’s God’s spirit.

The spirit of God is oneness! Not different people doing their own as they like. Nah!

Not all I can say, this should be enough for now..!

The government of a given country is as a result of God’s spirit let’s shelve religion..!

Family is as a result of God’s spirit..!

Oneness!

Afolue:


You will not understand. God has made it so!

Islam is mankind. Get that!

No matter what I say, or explain to you, still won’t be clear and understandable…

Where ever you step your feet into on this planet earth, even the deaf, gets notifications on the called to prayer every now and then of the day. From the early morning as from past 5am different location. That’s God’s spirit. It’s not ordinary. Them no dey taya? Never is it so!

Every second of the clock, all over the world Muslims are observing prayers due to time zones ! That’s God’s spirit…!

Where is God’s spirit in churches where even the deeper lifers are in retreat not having anything to do with Christmas affairs, JW, their own no be hear. No ask yourself if truly you can indeed discern the signs of God’s spirit. If you can’t, the God has made it so!

During Ramadan before it commences, all Muslims in the world are waiting on same one observation to carry out the usual as instructed and ordained. That’s God’s spirit.

The spirit of God is oneness! Not different people doing their own as they like. Nah!

Not all I can say, this should be enough for now..!

The government of a given country is as a result of God’s spirit let’s shelve religion..!

Family is as a result of God’s spirit..!

Oneness!

No answer from the Quran
Lobatan

Samunique:


No answer from the Quran
Lobatan

from a book you have no knowledge about? Don’t be ignorant… they have eyes but can’t see, ears but can’t hear. Do you think such parable is ordinary.? Your picture too clear nah!

Afolue:
from a book you have no knowledge about? Don’t be ignorant… they have eyes but can’t see, ears but can’t hear. Do you think such parable is ordinary.? Your picture too clear nah!

Ogbeni lo'sun jo, who do you think you're talking to ?

Back up you're claim from your religious book, you're here beating around the bush.

Ignorance indeed is a disease :-/

Many of you will come and say all sorts of things to paint your Islam White, you don't even want to know that many people here are ex Muslims.

Continue.....

Samunique:


Ogbeni lo'sun jo, who do you think you're talking to ?

Back up you're claim from your religious book, you're here beating around the bush.

Ignorance indeed is a disease :-/

Many of you will come and say all sorts of things to paint your Islam White, you don't even want to know that many people here are ex Muslims.

Continue.....

ex-ignorant-Muslim. Tis why I said nothing I say will make you bak off from your claims. You don’t need preachings. I am not a cleric neither.

Afolue:

Hmmm, wonders shall never cease.

If indeed it was this manner as you claim, don’t you think everyone would have formed their own ways too as well…?

Take it or leave it, islam is mankind.

If you should read the Quran, you will feel the signs of divinity in a rational sense …!

What are the signs of divinity in Islam and in reading the Quran?

bixton:




What are the signs of divinity in Islam and in reading the Quran?

knowledge they say is power! A zero learned man (who can barely read nor write) to have written a book he had no physical knowledge about…

Afolue:
knowledge they say is power! A zero learned man (who can barely read nor write) to have written a book he had no physical knowledge about…

That is not a sign of divinity whatsoever. It can be anything. Any man can receive instructions from any supernatural being. Nevertheless, history tells us how that zero learned man came about the writing of that book and it has no signs of divinity attached to it especially to those whose conscience seek the real truth.
So, you can do better than that.
Moreso knowledge is not and never power but the application of it, is power.

bixton:



That is not a sign of divinity whatsoever. It can be anything. Any man can receive instructions from any supernatural being. Nevertheless, history tells us how that zero learned man came about the writing of that book and it has no signs of divinity attached to it especially to those whose conscience seek the real truth.
So, you can do better than that.
Moreso knowledge is not and never power but the application of it, is power.

depend on your understanding of divinity and application of it in relative term. The illiterate prophet confirmed science of today and many more... The holy Quran wasn’t all about what the Bible said alone. Stop twisting words. Example lawyers can’t defend what they don’t have knowledge about. They read to prove point which gives them the power to win cases….

Afolue:
depend on your understanding of divinity and application of it in relative term. The illiterate prophet confirmed science of today and many more... The holy Quran wasn’t all about what the Bible said alone . Stop twisting words. Example lawyers can’t defend what they don’t have knowledge about. They read to prove point which gives them the power to win cases….

I can bet you don't even know the definition of what illiterate is and more so even from your previous post, what learned means.
Well, I really don't understand which science of today that he confirmed in his own time of old!!!!!
With regards the bolded, the divinity you claimed the illiterate man got instructions from ceases to become divinity the moment the divinity tried to bring up another holy book apart from the Holy Book of the Jews.

bixton:



I can bet you don't even know the definition of what illiterate is and more so even from your previous post, what learned means.
Well, I really don't understand which science of today that he confirmed in his own time of old!!!!!
With regards the bolded, the divinity you claimed the illiterate man got instructions from ceases to become divinity the moment the divinity tried to bring up another holy book apart from the Holy Book of the Jews.

doubting Thomas has been even in the biblical days, the holy Quran mentioned it as well. This is a mystery. Jesus said “I know my sheep and my sheep knows me”! Islam is mankind. Take it or leave it . No one dare questions God’s ways, the person will be clueless in thoughts and analysis of it!

Israelis are God’s people, but till date their nabors and outside continents don’t care to know of that! Talk more of the holy books of the quran Text!

Maxymilliano:
The banner has since been replaced with another which says “Allah is the lord of Jesus"



https://guardian.ng/news/why-we-displayed-jesus-christ-is-not-god-banner-at-lekki-mosque-imam/?fbclid=IwY2xjawHUq-BleHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHTu40R9Bqu2CxJmhYBFu-PanZGAPwwnYkwF_Wqf0i00E-FgMHkQVqaaaGw_aem_w3ODw5X6hc23kDYq0romoA

If there koran says Jesus is not God but a prophet of Allah, then their posting it is no attack on christians. From the bible Jesus is God, there is no doubt about that. But the Muslims are not saying that their conclusion about Jesus is from the bible but quoran. They have their right to their own beliefs.

Afolue:


Yes, that word “mystery”, well said. !

Define who prophets are..!

They will tell you things that once were and things to come..!

No, you are wrong.

Prophets wont tell you things that are already documented and established as facts.

Torah was a widely read book with information that Muhammed plagiarized unless, you deny its existence before Mohammed

Lemme break it down to you.

Its like a Nigerian Prophet saying that Nelson Mandela of South Africa once existed and began to say equivocally that all written about him is false....Is it not laughable??

The red flags there are as follows:

1. It had been established and documented already, so, its not a prophesy

2. People that knew Nelson had already written and documented his Biography, his struggles, Language, Friends, Families etc So no need of someone in far away land of Nigeria that doesn't speak Zulu language and lived like 600 years after to now say he is prophesying about him. It has all shades of FALSE PROPHESY BOLDLY WRITTEN ON IT.

3. God will not contradict Himself

4. In the comity of Prophets, Mohammed was in the lowest rung, like a Councilor in the comity of Presidents,
Prophets Moses, Samuel, Elijah, Elisha, Isaiah, Ezekiel, Jeremiah et al are all more pronounced that the Man that said he splitted the moon

4. Lastly, who are Muhammed antecedents, his ancestors that are Prophets or Priest, what covenant did God promised his kinsmen that he was carrying out?

jendoslim:


No, you are wrong.

Prophets wont tell you things that are already documented and established as facts.

Torah was a widely read book with information that Muhammed plagiarized unless, you deny its existence before Mohammed

Lemme break it down to you.

Its like a Nigerian Prophet saying that Nelson Mandela of South Africa once existed and began to say equivocally that all written about him is false....Is it not laughable??

The red flags there are as follows:

1. It had been established and documented already, so, its not a prophesy

2. People that knew Nelson had already written and documented his Biography, his struggles, Language, Friends, Families etc So no need of someone in far away land of Nigeria that doesn't speak Zulu language and lived like 600 years after to now say he is prophesying about him. It has all shades of FALSE PROPHESY BOLDLY WRITTEN ON IT.

3. God will not contradict Himself

4. In the comity of Prophets, Mohammed was in the lowest rung, like a Councilor in the comity of Presidents,
Prophets Moses, Samuel, Elijah, Elisha, Isaiah, Ezekiel, Jeremiah et al are all more pronounced that the Man that said he splitted the moon

4. Lastly, who are Muhammed antecedents, his ancestors that are Prophets or Priest, what covenant did God promised his kinsmen that he was carrying out?

all you have said about the prophet Mohammed contradicts the holy books of the Quran. The plagiarism led aspects you mentioned isn’t what it is in the real sense. It only takes God to do things unbelievable and unimaginable. And that was what exactly happened in his case. He was from the root of Ishmael. Do yourself a favor, read the Bible from beginning to the end (being the Old Testament and the New Testament). Being Judaism and Christianity in one! after which the holy Quran, without being sentimental or biased about either. You will get the true picture of what indeed you are trying to analyze. That’s the best I can say. Anything asides this, you will never want to accept otherwise to what you already claim you know.

Afolue:
all you have said about the prophet Mohammed contradicts the holy books of the Quran. The plagiarism led aspects you mentioned isn’t what it is in the real sense. It only takes God to do things unbelievable and unimaginable. And that was what exactly happened in his case. He was from the root of Ishmael. Do yourself a favor, read the Bible from beginning to the end (being the Old Testament and the New Testament). Being Judaism and Christianity in one! after which the holy Quran, without being sentimental or biased about either. You will get the true picture of what indeed you are trying to analyze. That’s the best I can say. Anything asides this, you will never want to accept otherwise to what you already claim you know.

And what is the true picture according to you?

You mean, I should believe a man that comes after 600 years + over eye witnesses that walked, talked, moved around with the person.



Bro, let us be logical now

jendoslim:



And what is the true picture according to you?

You mean, I should believe a man that comes after 600 years + over eye witnesses that walked, talked, moved around with the person.



Bro, let us be logical now

God’s ways appears illogical Bro. Let’s look at it on the side of divinity in play.

when Daniel and other kinsmen of his stood before Nebucadnezer, what did he requested of them? That either of them must tell him that dream he dreamt and it meaning and if not they will all be be headed. Does that sound logical.?

Let me tell you the truth, even if you don’t believe the prophet of Islam, believe in that holy book the Quran. The book is true and it’s real. God even have a challenge that whoever that can present another of it kind, even with all existing great scholars combined that can work a similar of it out, but till date none. All that is seen is critics. God’s way ain’t man’s ways, so it can not be a book generally accepted by man. That alone is a sign.