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We don’t want communism. And we don’t want unbridled capitalism either. It breeds oligarchs. Gets top heavy and collapses on itself. That’s how empires collapse . An unchecked oligarchy with fed up serfs. What could possibly go wrong?

raumdeuter:


Americans and people all over the world know the disaster that is called communism, Its why people from communist countries flee from it

Raumdeuter. I’m going to attempt to rephrase my earlier response to you without adding the links I used previously. Let’s see if I can skate by without getting banned again.

Trump’s tax cuts show lower rates on paper. But he removed virtually all deductions that families use to save on taxes. So while their paper rate is lower, they’re owing more because their taxable income is now higher. The first year after his tax cuts went into play, people were shocked at how much they owed when they filed. Because they read the tax cut part but didn’t read the part where he made it so they couldn’t deduct as they usually would. This was all over the news then. I’m sure you .

You’re right individual households’ situations differ. But if there’s something most middle class families have in common, it’s that they have kids, students, home maintenance expenses etc. so giving them a “cut” but removing their deductibles is like giving with one hand and taking with two. And I know he knows this. The only people his tax cuts favored were millionaires/billionaires and corporations who’s rates went from 35% to 21% and now he’s proposing 15% for them.

The $500 tax cut the average person got but ended up owing thousands in back pay means nothing.

Ibime:


Be quiet, Russia can't even overrun Poland on a normal day talkless of Europe. E get why Finland and Sweden ran to UK for security guarantee. All that spend is for USAs Pacific adventures, that's why they asked NATO to handle Europe while they handle Pacific. Your allies in Pacific no get levels (Japan, Korea and Phillipines) and you are serving as their Navy, Army and Airforce there. Europe can handle its area very well.

Even for NATO in the western front na US dey contribute
Better begin learn Russian now. Google translate on your phone wont save you

A for Alexei
B for Boris
C for Chechnya
D for Dzerzhinsk

cococandy:
We don’t want communism. And we don’t want unbridled capitalism either. It breeds oligarchs. Gets top heavy and collapses on itself. That’s how empires collapse . An unchecked oligarchy with fed up serfs. What could possibly go wrong?

I will take my chances with capitalism that has taken more people out of poverty and created more wealth than any other system

cococandy:
Raumdeuter. I’m going to attempt to rephrase my earlier response to you without adding the links I used previously. Let’s see if I can skate by without getting banned again.

Trump’s tax cuts show lower rates on paper. But he removed virtually all deductions that families use to save on taxes. So while their paper rate is lower, they’re owing more because their taxable income is now higher. The first year after his tax cuts went into play, people were shocked at how much they owed when they filed. Because they read the tax cut part but didn’t read the part where he made it so they couldn’t deduct as they usually would. This was all over the news then. I’m sure you .

You’re right individual households’ situations differ. But if there’s something most middle class families have in common, it’s that they have kids, students, home maintenance expenses etc. so giving them a “cut” but removing their deductibles is like giving with one hand and taking with two. And I know he knows this. The only people his tax cuts favored were millionaires/billionaires and corporations who’s rates went from 35% to 21% and now he’s proposing 15% for them.

The $500 tax cut the average person got but ended up owing thousands in back pay means nothing.

Which of these did he remove in 2017 tax cut? I just showed you that child tax credit went up from 1k to 2k

nateevs:


This is what the likes of Marco Rubio want you to think. If you think that Russia is capable of overrunning the UK, and alone, even without the help of the US, then you are either overstating Russia's intent in a bid to perpetuate these ridiculous DOD spendings, or you know nothing about anything.

These are Nuclear Nations. Do you think Putin invades , and the UK without M.A.D? You think Putin is that stupid in ambition?

You have the Military Industrial Complex pumping money into politics, sponsoring elections, and subsequently, dictating the resolution of all Chambers of the Legislature, and you think one small detail they forgot was to drop was a little bit of Propaganda iabout Russia's intent?

Is Russia also the reason for Billions of off-book programs, fraud and mismanagement that have made The Pentagon fail audit for 7 years in a row?

Imagine what you are saying..... it's Europe that is the cause of America being unable to take care of its citizens.

Its easy to make mouth after America has done the heavy lifting already on behalf of Europe whether its vs Nazi or vs Putin Russia
Pray Trump doesnt make good his claims or your Chelsea would be turned to CSKA Moskva

raumdeuter:

Even for NATO in the western front na US dey contribute
Better begin learn Russian now. Google translate on your phone wont save you

A for Alexei
B for Boris
C for Chechnya
D for Dzerzhinsk

US only contributes 16% to NATO ($3.6bln). Chicken change that can be covered. I repeat, US military spending is for Pacific area.

Ibime:
US only contributes 16% to NATO ($3.6bln). Chicken change that can be covered. I repeat, US military spending is for Pacific area.

About 30 countries make up NATO and 1 country(USA) contributes 16% of the budget. Even with a war that is not even at its border

Ibime:


Bitch ãss nigga! Your village people done send you work. I have never been in Apple ecosystem, I be Google cultist. Even one iPhone wey my work give me, I throw am inside drawer and never used it. I still use my personal number if colleagues need to reach me. God only gave me 2 pockets, left pocket for my wallet and right pocket for my phone. I ed all those Outlook, Teams, VPN authenticator on my personal phone rather than use work phone. If I carry two phones, I will be confused and lose one.

For personal phone, I use a Redmi and I think it was Motorola before that. Conspicuous consumption is not my thing. Ontop that, Vodafone no dey work for my village. May God forgive you for whoevers phone you hacked.

You were on iPhone buddy. That's an undeniable fact

bemeruca:


You were on iPhone buddy. That's an undeniable fact

Mad man, see me see trouble, you want dash me iPhone by force

Upgrade your hacking skills, your hacking done enter voicemail

raumdeuter:


About 30 countries make up NATO and 1 country(USA) contributes 16% of the budget. Even with a war that is not even at its border

US is 34% of Natos population and only contributing 16% of the budget, you are contributing less than half your share per capita.

Like I said, US is benefitting from European partners to hold Western side, since the pressure on Eastern side is much - the subsidy is from Europe to America on Western side, not the other way around.

Ibime:


Bitch ãss nigga! Your village people done send you work. I have never been in Apple ecosystem, I be Google cultist. Even one iPhone wey my work give me, I throw am inside drawer and never used it. I still use my personal number if colleagues need to reach me. God only gave me 2 pockets, left pocket for my wallet and right pocket for my phone. I ed all those Outlook, Teams, VPN authenticator on my personal phone rather than use work phone. If I carry two phones, I will be confused and lose one.

For personal phone, I use a Redmi and I think it was Motorola before that. Conspicuous consumption is not my thing. Ontop that, Vodafone no dey work for my village. May God forgive you for whoevers phone you hacked.

a c suite guy working in the uk using an iphone 7 in 2021?
even if you were into the apple ecosystem - why would you be using a 5 year old phone when your position and disposable income and location made a new model easily available? again projection of his true reality onto you.

also, if you post a google link from your phone, the model number of your device is captured in the info

don't let any script kiddie fool you. its like the jjc scam where they pick your old s from a breach and mail you claiming they have access to your info pay up.

https://www.scamwatch.gov.au/about-us/news-and-alerts/scam-alert-bulk-email-extortion-scam

GloriousGbola:


a c suite guy working in the uk using an iphone 7 in 2021?
even if you were into the apple ecosystem - why would you be using a 5 year old phone when your position and disposable income and location made a new model easily available? again projection of his true reality onto you.

I don't know about all that, I'm not into phones. But the way he quickly identified S10 as a mark of shame rather than S24 shows that brand and age of phone is a big part of his sense of fulfillment.

Holy Shit.
See this bribery in the open.
Does this kind of thing even happen in the open in Nigeria?

Ibime:


I don't know about all that, I'm not into phones. But the way he quickly identified S10 as a mark of shame rather than S24 shows that brand and age of phone is a big part of his sense of fulfillment.

Its a naija thing. Nigerians are bigly into status symbols. They are not buying the phone for what it can do but for the I am a big boy/girl statement. Which is why they will have an expensive phone and only have free apps on it.

Ibime:


Mad man, see me see trouble, you want dash me iPhone by force

Upgrade your hacking skills, your hacking done enter voicemail

Lol.

Ibime:


I don't know about all that, I'm not into phones. But the way he quickly identified S10 as a mark of shame rather than S24 shows that brand and age of phone is a big part of his sense of fulfillment.

I would be using my s10 if the screen did not crack 😭 I love that phone. Best phone from Samsung. Used it for 6 years. I could not buy another one and puretalk does not carry it.

GloriousGbola:


Its a naija thing. Nigerians are bigly into status symbols. They are not buying the phone for what it can do but for the I am a big boy/girl statement. Which is why they will have an expensive phone and only have free apps on it.

That's why I don't own an iPhone. And I would have loved the xiaomi as I can easily jailbreak it and run magisk. With Samsung it's possible but harder.

raumdeuter:


Its easy to make mouth after America has done the heavy lifting already on behalf of Europe whether its vs Nazi or vs Putin Russia
Pray Trump doesnt make good his claims or your Chelsea would be turned to CSKA Moskva

Abeg abeg. Me i don't line up behind US interests by default.

America does what America wants in its quest for expansionism. Its National Interest is at the core of every move, and not any benevolence to liberate Europe from the Nazi. Japan attacked Pearl Habour, The US declared war on Japan, and on the US consequently. They were ready to sit it out.

You talk about heavy lifting but conveniently forget that Russia gave nearly 25 million lives on the Eastern Front. If was able to run through Russia like they did , you will not be talking this nonsense you are talking.

The US can and should provide for its poor but it doesn't, because the likes of you like to blame the poor out of misplaced principles. But somehow, find ways to protect the rich who perpetuate ridiculous trillion dollar spendings all in the name of "protecting Europe" from a weak Russia.

nateevs:


Abeg abeg. Me i don't line up behind US interests by default.

America does what America wants in its quest for expansionism. Its National Interest is at the core of every move, and not any benevolence to liberate Europe from the Nazi. Japan attacked Pearl Habour, The US declared war on Japan, and on the US consequently. They were ready to sit it out.

You talk about heavy lifting but conveniently forget that Russia gave nearly 25 million lives on the Eastern Front. If was able to run through Russia like they did , you will not be talking this nonsense you are talking.

The US can and should provide for its poor but it doesn't, because the likes of you like to blame the poor out of misplaced principles. But somehow, find ways to protect the rich who perpetuate ridiculous trillion dollar spendings all in the name of "protecting Europe" from a weak Russia.

In WW2, was pummeling Europe, UK, Russia was getting battered until big brother USA stepped in and smashed otherwise you would be singing to the Fuhrer now

US citizens are doing great, They are the most prosperous country in the entire world, The worst state in the US Mississippi

Mississippi's GDP per capita is significantly higher than the other four top European economies, exceeding Spain by €16,710, Italy by €12,553, by €5,415, and the UK by €1,339.
The second poorest state, West Virginia, had a noticeably higher GDP per capita than all five European countries, suring by €5,270
https://uk.finance.yahoo.com/news/poorest-us-state-rivals--153030529.html

So Europeans don't need to shed tears for the lifestyle of Americans. We can help and we will help our brothers across the pond as we have always done for over 80yrs

happney65:

---Felon 47 thinks g EOs is the same as he is working and keeping up to his rally promises (lies)---

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2025/01/29/white-house-budget-office-spending-freeze/

cococandy:
Raumdeuter. I’m going to attempt to rephrase my earlier response to you without adding the links I used previously. Let’s see if I can skate by without getting banned again.

Trump’s tax cuts show lower rates on paper. But he removed virtually all deductions that families use to save on taxes. So while their paper rate is lower, they’re owing more because their taxable income is now higher. The first year after his tax cuts went into play, people were shocked at how much they owed when they filed. Because they read the tax cut part but didn’t read the part where he made it so they couldn’t deduct as they usually would. This was all over the news then. I’m sure you .

You’re right individual households’ situations differ. But if there’s something most middle class families have in common, it’s that they have kids, students, home maintenance expenses etc. so giving them a “cut” but removing their deductibles is like giving with one hand and taking with two. And I know he knows this. The only people his tax cuts favored were millionaires/billionaires and corporations who’s rates went from 35% to 21% and now he’s proposing 15% for them.

The $500 tax cut the average person got but ended up owing thousands in back pay means nothing.

---Felon 47 and his MAGAuads think cutting or stopping various grants at the Federal level will allow his planned tax cuts for the rich to scale through Congress---what are his plans for the inflation he campaigned against so vigorously---

IjeBos:


And what center is that?
The words center/left/extreme don't mean much unless they are in relation to something.
ex. US Republicans think Dems are extreme for wanting universal health care.

Both sides in the UK are closer to where US liberals are policy wise.

So you still haven't seen that there are some policies from the left that are extreme?

raumdeuter:


2008 was when the left began to move further left. If you watch the campaign of Obama vs Biden vs Clinton in 2007 most of the things they campaigned on would be called far right today

That's what I'm talking about.

Both sides have gone extreme, whoever is denying it is lying to himself/herself.

Livelystone01:

So you still haven't seen that there are some policies from the left that are extreme?

the left is as pure as God to this guy. perfect and they can do no wrong.

GloriousGbola:


Its a naija thing. Nigerians are bigly into status symbols. They are not buying the phone for what it can do but for the I am a big boy/girl statement. Which is why they will have an expensive phone and only have free apps on it.

Most Nigerians are classists by default. They spend to look good, engage in luxury to feel big and get big things with their last cash in order to be talked about even if they will go hungry in the end.

When I wanted to marry, I told my partner that I wanted to do a very small ceremony. People in my church insulted, made comments that why should my wife marry someone that has no money to engage a big reception, they said so many things and even the older ones told her to pause the marriage, that they were helping her.

Her mum talked, tried to convince me but I held my ground that I don't need stress. She was bothered about what people would say and how they'd look at her. It wasn't my business how you wanted to look in people's eyes lol.

A colleague told me what about people that would spray money. I told her everyone should hold their money, that I wasn't getting married because I needed people's money.

Fast forward to after marriage. Those same people who tried to convince my wife to stop the marriage or postpone it, that why should she get into such low-class marriage are now trying to be friends after they found out what we do. One got the news of how I pre-ordered the Solana mobile phone for my wife through my email notification he saw and told the others that someone like this can't be that ordinary.

Some of the marriage counsellors told her "what if he wanted to marry you because of what you have and where you work after they asked her about what she does". She told them his weekly income is more than my monthly salary. When they asked me what I did and how much I earned, I told them it wasn't their business.

Right now, most of them get closer to her but not me because they know I do not really have the energy to be in a group.

This is not to show what I have but to explain a first hand experience how most Nigerians, including those who are struggling are classists. They prefer names/titles over substance and when you operate differently, they call you names.

Even those who are here living outside the country are not left out of this primitive mentality.

raumdeuter:


In WW2, was pummeling Europe, UK, Russia was getting battered unti[b]l big brother USA stepped in and smashed o[/b]therwise you would be singing to the Fuhrer now

US citizens are doing great, They are the most prosperous country in the entire world, The worst state in the US Mississippi



So Europeans don't need to shed tears for the lifestyle of Americans. We can help and we will help our brothers across the pond as we have always done for over 80yrs

Hehe. That right there shows your limited knowledge of the events. This is American revisionism. For a war that was not fought on American soil, the US lost nearly as many Soldiers as the UK - 450,000. But the US smashed .

Continue to indulge in your far right Nationalism. This is the exact reason you guys on the Right cannot see, let alone appreciate any other point of view. It's the same reason you hate the poor.

See the Chinese upstage the US in one fell swoop, with the release of DeepSeek and wiping trillions off the valuation of big tech companies overnight. You dey dere dey calculate GDP, when said GDP is only a factor of how fatter the pockets of the rich are becoming. . GDP wey no reach the poor.

You are in a temporary bubble, where the poor have nowhere to turn to, and have unfortunately gone to Trump, thinking the price of eggs will come down. When they realise they've been scammed, I will watch you come back and say all this nonsense.

Meanwhile, I dey popcorn mode as the US delves into 3rd world territory with this clown leading charge in full tunnel-vision isolation.

raumd.euter:
cococa.ndy e be like say the system mean you today

tired of her shitty opinions.

nateevs:


Hehe. That right there shows your limited knowledge of the events. This is American revisionism. For a war that was not fought on American soil, the US lost nearly as many Soldiers as the UK - 450,000. But the US smashed .

Continue to indulge in your far right Nationalism. This is the exact reason you guys on the Right cannot see, let alone appreciate any other point of view. It's the same reason you hate the poor.

See the Chinese upstage the US in one fell swoop, with the release of DeepSeek and wiping trillions off the valuation of big tech companies overnight. You dey dere dey calculate GDP, when said GDP is only a factor of how fatter the pockets of the rich are becoming. . GDP wey no reach the poor.

You are in a temporary bubble, where the poor have nowhere to turn to, and have unfortunately gone to Trump, thinking the price of eggs will come down. When they realise they've been scammed, I will watch you come back and say all this nonsense.

Meanwhile, I dey popcorn mode as the US delves into 3rd world territory with this clown leading charge in full tunnel-vision isolation.

What is UK version of Deepseek? Oh I guess you are waiting for big bro US to solve it and you tag along

Livelystone01:

That's what I'm talking about.

Both sides have gone extreme, whoever is denying it is lying to himself/herself.

Please, you just have to look at who is still welcomed in each party.
Clinton gave a speech at the DNC
What living Republican president/Vice President was even at the RNC?
Would Ronald Reagan fit in today's Republican party?
Shit they even call Jesus woke.

Livelystone01:

So you still haven't seen that there are some policies from the left that are extreme?

Like?
Give me examples of a policy Biden promoted that was Extreme.