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gohf:
go away, I was never here for you.

You showed from the beginning you were stubborn to the truth, you avoided it, you ran from it. Did you think I spent time going through the Bible to bring those verses out just for you.


Others will read this and it will be a record that the truth was shared and some believe and some rejected it.

But baselessly as from the beginning you have only accused what is written as being inaccurate and so please do not think it was written just for you.

Just as there are vessels made unto honor and those not so, I used your errors to teach the truth.

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You seem to want to appear humble but it's not humbleness I tell you.

Don't worry, since you have a bible and you won't stop studying it. You'll come to the truth, keep on studying.

Cheers.

DaddyCoool:


What exactly is God's word and how are you sure what is God's word?

the word of God brings life and God verifies His word through the works He does.

How am I sure what God's word is, it is because I decided to do only God's will to submit to God and in my errors and failings I get rebuked and corrected, here what Jesus said in John.7.17 Anyone who wants to do the will of God will know whether my teaching is from God or is merely my own.

That's why Paul wrote, Rom.12.2 Don't copy the behavior and customs of this world, but let God transform you into a new person by changing the way you think. Then you will know what God wants you to do, and you will know how good and pleasing and perfect his will really is.


If I disobeyed simple instructions from God if I never felt bad for even lying, if I never asked God for mercy would he ever have told me, you are wrong, what you are doing is not my will... if I had rejected the corrections of God because it went against my thoughts and opinions, if I had .... forget it

Nothing is more celebrated on earth than lies, that's why Jesus said John.14.17 He is the Holy Spirit, who leads into all truth. The world at large cannot receive him, because it isn't looking for him and doesn't recognize him. But you do, because he lives with you now and later will be in you. (NLT)


I had to go back and start from the beginning and beg God to teach me his word. You think mere reading it was how I understood it.

Three times I saw the son of God, in one of them I saw a humility I could not understand,...

If you the spirit of God doesn't speak to you, do you think anything else I say or anything else you read would to you who the son of God is.

He is the only one God send those he saves to

Nachmonides:

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You seem to want to appear humble but it's not humbleness I tell you.

Don't worry, since you have a bible and you won't stop studying it. You'll come to the truth, keep on studying.

Cheers.

you have no business with my humility, you are not my God not my Lord

When Jesus called them brood of vipers he was humble, for our humility is not to men especially those who reject God's word.

I never asked you to be humble to me, but to submit to God and His word, will I save you will your humility do me any good. If you lack fruit will you not be cut off.

If I seem humble thank God for the holy Spirit but it was never for you as well.

Nachmonides:


Constant inaccuracies, that's what you bring up.

That, I don't want to see.

I said you were blind and if you want your blindness to remain that is your choice.

Refusing to see the truth revealed doesn't deny the existence of it.

gohf:
I said you were blind and if you want your blindness to remain that is your choice.

Refusing to see the truth revealed doesn't deny the existence of it.

Alright, please help me remove my blindness.

What does John1:1 say?

According to your bible, and according to the original greek.

gohf:
you have no business with my humility, you are not my God not my Lord

When Jesus called them brood of vipers he was humble, for our humility is not to men especially those who reject God's word.

I never asked you to be humble to me, but to submit to God and His word, will I save you will your humility do me any good. If you lack fruit will you not be cut off.

If I seem humble thank God for the holy Spirit but it was never for you as well.

Even the Devil and Pharisees could quote scriptures.

But in all, they didn't know.

Steep:
She is a false teacher and false prophet.

2 Peter 2:1 But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.
I pray God brings her out of the darkness she is in.

you speak of yourself here

When even Peter wrote
2Pet.1.17 For He received from God the Father honor and glory when such a voice came to Him from the Excellent Glory: "This is My beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased."

But instead of accepting what God you added to yourself heresies brought by the very men Paul wrote about, men you follow in your greed to succeed and enjoy life

2Pet.2.2 - Many will follow their evil teaching and shameful immorality. And because of them, Christ and his true way will be slandered.
2Pet.2.3 - In their greed they will make up clever lies to get hold of your money. But God condemned them long ago, and their destruction is on the way.


To call false what the Spirit of God has revealed is to speak against God's word. Please do not pray for him, but pray for yourself.

gohf:
the word of God brings life and God verifies His word through the works He does.

So you do believe God is active and not idle and powerless and can NEVER allow another be worshipped as God with Him for over 2000 years against His will?

Nachmonides:


Even the Devil and Pharisees could quote scriptures.

But in all, they didn't know.

and you are right and i watched you quote it all day in error mixing it with tradition and avoiding the truth God revealed.

DaddyCoool:


So you do believe God is active and not idle and powerless and can NEVER allow another be worshipped as God for over 2000 years against His will?

don't ask me questions ignoring God's word that has been spoken like an evil spirit seeking whom to misled.

gohf:
and you are right and i watched you quote it all day in error mixing it with tradition and avoiding the truth God revealed.

Alright, I've heard you.

What does John 1: 1 say according to your bible, and the Greek text?

Nachmonides:



Alright, I've heard you.

What does John 1: 1 say according to your bible, and the Greek text?

you never heard but because you claim to hear, who will open your ears?

If though Jesus itted to be the son of God, they asked him over and over again.

Nachmonides:


Alright, please help me remove my blindness.

What does John1:1 say?

According to your bible, and according to the original greek.

go to Jesus Christ the son of God let him remove it for you, maybe you will hear what the Holy Spirit says.

gohf:
you never heard but because you claim to hear, who will open your ears?

If though Jesus itted to be the son of God, they asked him over and over again.

This is childish.
To everyone reading this thread, Gohf cannot post the John 1:1 text of his/her bible, and that of the Greek.

A very simple request.

gohf:
go to Jesus Christ the son of God let him remove it for you, maybe you will hear what the Holy Spirit says.

He has, glory be to the Lord Jesus Christ, the one true God. Maker of heaven and earth, saviour of the world and the prince of peace, Lord of Lords.

Steep:
confused one, God said he is a jealous God.

Exodus 20:5 Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;

Confused gohf,
Paul said the fulness of Godhood dwells in christ.

Colossians 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

The Greek interlinear of Godhead in col 2:9 is theotetoes meaning deity or Godhood.
Jesus is literally God, same God with the father.
People have tried to correct you here but you continue in heresy.


Proverbs 29:1 He, that being often reproved hardeneth his neck, shall suddenly be destroyed, and that without remedy.

some of this nonsense you added later after quoting me is such deception.

Even if you were thought greek, the letter will still kill you not because the letter is in error but the nature in you will make it so

For in Him dwells all the fullness of the Godhead bodily; and you have been given fullness in Christ, who is the head over every power and authority.

This is the full sentence in English Colossians 2:9-10

Even Paul that believes what Jesus said about the Father being in him, didn't bring a conclusion that Jesus is God but wrote Jesus being full of God is head of all power and authority


Did Paul not write, Col.2.6 So then, just as you received Christ Jesus as Lord, continue to live in him,....

But you add your lies so to condemn the truth but instead condemn yourself who refuses to repent but continue to propagate a lie.

Nachmonides:


He has, glory be to the Lord Jesus Christ, the one true God. Maker of heaven and earth, saviour of the world and the prince of peace, Lord of Lords.

He hasn't for you do not even know him

Do you think that by calling him Lord lord you will enter the kingdom of God who do and teach your own will and doctrine?!

gohf:
He hasn't for you do not even know him

Do you think that by calling him Lord lord you will enter the kingdom of God who do and teach your own will and doctrine?!

Jesus is God, he is Lord, he is the Alpha and Omega. The beginning and the end, the first and the last.

Gohf, your derogatory or insulting remark in almost all of your texts have amused me.


You see, the spirit I'm of makes me immune to the ungodly reactions the flesh would naturally desire.
Please continue, I'll show you I'm not like the Pharisees whom Jesus would lash at and would react ungodly, showing the spirit they were of.

Nachmonides:
Gohf, your derogatory, or degrading, or insulting remark in almost all of your texts have amused me.


You see, the spirit I'm of makes me immune to the ungodly reactions the flesh would naturally desire.
Please continue, I'll show you I'm not like the Pharisees whom Jesus would lash at and would react ungodly, showing the spirit they were of.

Nachmonides:



This is childish.
To everyone reading this thread, Gohf cannot post the John 1:1 text of his/her bible, and that of the Greek.

A very simple request.

ah you're confidence is from men, very typical of you to try and use public opinion.

You rejected the truth and your request is rejected.

Do you think I will change my mind like your ever changing god

Listen it's because you fail to realize that the answer to the question has already been given, just search for it. If you can't pay the price of seeking you don't deserve to be given a reply.

Nachmonides:
Gohf, your derogatory or insulting remark in almost all of your texts have amused me.


You see, the spirit I'm of makes me immune to the ungodly reactions the flesh would naturally desire.
Please continue, I'll show you I'm not like the Pharisees whom Jesus would lash at and would react ungodly, showing the spirit they were of.

I haven't called you a brood of vipers, so do state the insult you felt insulted with


But you have been insolent in this that you have disregarded what was written and opted to continue to proclaim what God never revealed nor said and in light of God's word what were your responses. Yet you come here to accuse ALL of my texts which shows your disrespect in probably not even reading them but assuming what was written in them was an insult to you.


I called you blind didn't I did, here again you show yourself blind
Did you feel insulted in your pride believing all I wrote was for you or about you, even when I repeated said it wasn't?

You proclaim yourself and defend it, but I proclaim Christ the son of God and show it from the Bible.

I do apologize that you feel insulted but I am not here to praise or glorify you in anyway especially when you disrespect God's word with the way you handle it.

gohf:
you can't find Jesus is God from the apostles but you would have to go to the traditions that nachmonides fails to it nor answer whenever I mention the gnostics.

The nicea decrea? You have failed using the Bible now to want to venture into another gray area, would you flee again once light is poured there?

you have no excuse.
John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

Titus 2:13 Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ;

gohf:
don't ask me questions ignoring God's word that has been spoken like an evil spirit seeking whom to misled.

You make me laugh. Why can't you accept the simple TRUTH that Christ is God but NOT the Father??!!. If you say Christ is not God, then why is he being worshipped?? And why is the Father not jealous at all, as He would be with Baal, Shiva, etc. And if you say he is not God then why has the Father empowered those that have been worshipping him as God all these centuries. Unless you are saying the Father is powerless. Is that what you're saying?
These are facts! HISTORY people have actually lived through NOT some arcane words in a much edited and manipulated book!

gohf:
I haven't called you a brood of vipers, so do state the insult you felt insulted with


But you have been insolent in this that you have disregarded what was written and opted to continue to proclaim what God never revealed nor said and in light of God's word what were your responses. Yet you come here to accuse ALL of my texts which shows your disrespect in probably not even reading them but assuming what was written in them was an insult to you.


I called you blind didn't I did, here again you show yourself blind
Did you feel insulted in your pride believing all I wrote was for you or about you, even when I repeated said it wasn't?

You proclaim yourself and defend it, but I proclaim Christ the son of God and show it from the Bible.

I do apologize that you feel insulted but I am not here to praise or glorify you in anyway especially when you disrespect God's word with the way you handle it.

There's no need for that.
It's fine.

gohf:
you can't find Jesus is God from the apostles but you would have to go to the traditions that nachmonides fails to it nor answer whenever I mention the gnostics.

The nicea decrea? You have failed using the Bible now to want to venture into another gray area, would you flee again once light is poured there?

Perhaps I missed the message.

I am not shying away from explaining anything if I can and I am not afraid of saying "I don't know about this" or "My knowledge is limited in this area". If I avoided it, I must have perceived foolishness or temptation (like the question you asked about standards)

Nachmonides:


Jesus is God, he is Lord, he is the Alpha and Omega. The beginning and the end, the first and the last.

And here again is another lie from one who refuses to see the truth

Here is what is actually written

Rev.1.8 "I am the Alpha and the Omega--the beginning and the end," says the Lord God. "I am the one who is, who always was, and who is still to come, the Almighty One." (NLT)

Says who, God himself the Father

But when the son is revealed this what John saw and wrote

Rev.1.13 - And standing in the middle of the lampstands was the Son of Man. He was wearing a long robe with a gold sash across his chest.
Rev.1.14 - His head and his hair were white like wool, as white as snow. And his eyes were bright like flames of fire.
Rev.1.15 - His feet were as bright as bronze refined in a furnace, and his voice thundered like mighty ocean waves.
Rev.1.16 - He held seven stars in his right hand, and a sharp two-edged sword came from his mouth. And his face was as bright as the sun in all its brilliance.
Rev.1.17 - When I saw him, I fell at his feet as dead. But he laid his right hand on me and said, "Don't be afraid! I am the First and the Last.
Rev.1.18 - I am the living one who died. Look, I am alive forever and ever! And I hold the keys of death and the grave.


Jesus the first and the last, the only one who is our Lord, our Christ, the one who died.

And in none of the introduction to the seven churches does Jesus introduce himself as God.

Let him post them out, for those patient enough to gain understanding and wisdom from God

Rev.2.1 "Write this letter to the angel of the church in Ephesus. This is the message from the one who holds the seven stars in his right hand, the one who walks among the seven gold lampstands:

Rev.2.8 "Write this letter to the angel of the church in Smyrna. This is the message from the one who is the First and the Last, who died and is alive:

Rev.2.12 "Write this letter to the angel of the church in Pergamum. This is the message from the one who has a sharp two-edged sword:

Rev.2.18 "Write this letter to the angel of the church in Thyatira. This is the message from the Son of God, whose eyes are bright like flames of fire, whose feet are like polished bronze:

Jesus here CALLS HIMSELF THE SON OF GOD

Rev.3.1 "And to the angel of the church in Sardis write, "These things says He who has the seven Spirits of God and the seven stars: "I know your works, that you have a name that you are alive, but you are dead.

Now for those who keep saying the Spirit of God is God so therefore equal to trinity, you forgot to add the seven spirits of God o

Rev.3.7 "Write this letter to the angel of the church in Philadelphia. This is the message from the one who is holy and true. He is the one who has the key of David. He opens doors, and no one can shut them; he shuts doors, and no one can open them. (NLT)

Rev.3.14 "Write this letter to the angel of the church in Laodicea. This is the message from the one who is the Amen--the faithful and true witness, the ruler of God's creation: (NLT)

Then the next chapter John saw a revelation of God, he saw One sitting on a throne
Rev.4.8 Each of these living beings had six wings, and their wings were covered with eyes, inside and out. Day after day and night after night they keep on saying, "Holy, holy, holy is the Lord God Almighty--the one who always was, who is, and who is still to come."
And the 24 elders
Rev.4.11 "You are worthy, O Lord our God, to receive glory and honor and power. For you created everything, and it is for your pleasure that they exist and were created."

Rev.5.1 And I saw a scroll in the right hand of the one who was sitting on the throne. There was writing on the inside and the outside of the scroll, and it was sealed with seven seals.



Will they read this, or will they avoid it. Those who want to be saved will not avoid the truth they will run to it and forsake all
Rev.5.5 - But one of the twenty-four elders said to me, "Stop weeping! Look, the Lion of the tribe of Judah, the heir to David's throne, has conquered. He is worthy to open the scroll and break its seven seals."
Rev.5.6 - I looked and I saw a Lamb that had been killed but was now standing between the throne and the four living beings and among the twenty-four elders. He had seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven spirits of God that are sent out into every part of the earth.
Rev.5.9 - And they sang a new song with these words: "You are worthy to take the scroll and break its seals and open it. For you were killed, and your blood has ransomed people for God from every tribe and language and people and nation.
Rev.5.10 - And you have caused them to become God's Kingdom and his priests. And they will reign on the earth."


Did I not quote this already, this verse 12, now before God whom I stand I speak these words and anyone who calls it a lie let it be recorded against them. The fear of God is the beginning of wisdom but fools love their own ways.

I speak with authority and boldness of the one who sent me.

Rev.5.12 - And they sang in a mighty chorus: "The Lamb is worthy--the Lamb who was killed. He is worthy to receive power and riches and wisdom and strength and honor and glory and blessing."


But then they didn't worship him alone but God who was the one sitting on the throne and the lamb, verse 13.

Then God spoke in Rev.21.5 - And the one sitting on the throne said, "Look, I am making all things new!" And then he said to me, "Write this down, for what I tell you is trustworthy and true."
Rev.21.6 - And he also said, "It is finished! I am the Alpha and the Omega--the Beginning and the End. To all who are thirsty I will give the springs of the water of life without charge!
Rev.21.7 - All who are victorious will inherit all these blessings, and I will be their God, and they will be my children.
Rev.21.8 - But cowards who turn away from me, and unbelievers, and the corrupt, and murderers, and the immoral, and those who practice witchcraft, and idol worshipers, and all liars--their doom is in the lake that burns with fire and sulfur. This is the second death."


And God spoke again in Revelation 22
Rev.22.12 - "See, I am coming soon, and my reward is with me, to repay all according to their deeds.
Rev.22.13 - I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End."
Rev.22.14 - Blessed are those who wash their robes so they can enter through the gates of the city and eat the fruit from the tree of life.
Rev.22.15 - Outside the city are the dogs--the sorcerers, the sexually immoral, the murderers, the idol worshipers, and all who love to live a lie.


Then the Lamb, Jesus, beside God spoke,
Rev.22.16 - "I, Jesus, have sent my angel to give you this message for the churches. I am both the source of David and the heir to his throne. I am the bright morning star."



Are you still going to deny God's word?

Nachmonides:


Perhaps I missed the message.

I am not shying away from explaining anything if I can and I am not afraid of saying "I don't know about this" or "My knowledge is limited in this area". If I avoided it, I must have perceived foolishness or temptation (like the question you asked about standards)

you perceived foolishness from God's word because it doesn't the standard you follow?

It was not a temptation, I gave you an offer let us go through the Bible even though I followed your quotes you rejected the word without reason but with repetition.

Don't be bothered with me o, do you think God isn't seeing us how heart and our reaction to God's word.

I read what you wrote I considered where you may have misunderstood I tried with patience to show you but I decided to use your words to teach others because you rejected them.

I am before God Almighty Jehovah, afraid of his judgement and I declare with boldness I reject that which contradicts God's word that Jesus is God.

For I believe in God who sent his Son to us, and I believe in the son and obey his words which are from the Father and I in no way believe God became a man for it is written God is not a man. No matter the imaginations or explanation from men I choose to believe what God has revealed as the truth and only the truth least I perish for my sins.

gohf:


And here again is another lie from one who refuses to see the truth

Here is what is actually written

Rev.1.8 "I am the Alpha and the Omega--the beginning and the end," says the Lord God. "I am the one who is, who always was, and who is still to come, the Almighty One." (NLT)

Says who, God himself the Father

But when the son is revealed this what John saw and wrote

Rev.1.13 - And standing in the middle of the lampstands was the Son of Man. He was wearing a long robe with a gold sash across his chest.
Rev.1.14 - His head and his hair were white like wool, as white as snow. And his eyes were bright like flames of fire.
Rev.1.15 - His feet were as bright as bronze refined in a furnace, and his voice thundered like mighty ocean waves.
Rev.1.16 - He held seven stars in his right hand, and a sharp two-edged sword came from his mouth. And his face was as bright as the sun in all its brilliance.
Rev.1.17 - When I saw him, I fell at his feet as dead. But he laid his right hand on me and said, "Don't be afraid! I am the First and the Last.
Rev.1.18 - I am the living one who died. Look, I am alive forever and ever! And I hold the keys of death and the grave.


Jesus the first and the last, the only one who is our Lord, our Christ, the one who died.

And in none of the introduction to the seven churches does Jesus introduce himself as God.

Let him post them out, for those patient enough to gain understanding and wisdom from God

Rev.2.1 "Write this letter to the angel of the church in Ephesus. This is the message from the one who holds the seven stars in his right hand, the one who walks among the seven gold lampstands:

Rev.2.8 "Write this letter to the angel of the church in Smyrna. This is the message from the one who is the First and the Last, who died and is alive:

Rev.2.12 "Write this letter to the angel of the church in Pergamum. This is the message from the one who has a sharp two-edged sword:

Rev.2.18 "Write this letter to the angel of the church in Thyatira. This is the message from the Son of God, whose eyes are bright like flames of fire, whose feet are like polished bronze:

Jesus here CALLS HIMSELF THE SON OF GOD

Rev.3.1 "And to the angel of the church in Sardis write, "These things says He who has the seven Spirits of God and the seven stars: "I know your works, that you have a name that you are alive, but you are dead.

Now for those who keep saying the Spirit of God is God so therefore equal to trinity, you forgot to add the seven spirits of God o

Rev.3.7 "Write this letter to the angel of the church in Philadelphia. This is the message from the one who is holy and true. He is the one who has the key of David. He opens doors, and no one can shut them; he shuts doors, and no one can open them. (NLT)

Rev.3.14 "Write this letter to the angel of the church in Laodicea. This is the message from the one who is the Amen--the faithful and true witness, the ruler of God's creation: (NLT)

Then the next chapter John saw a revelation of God, he saw One sitting on a throne
Rev.4.8 Each of these living beings had six wings, and their wings were covered with eyes, inside and out. Day after day and night after night they keep on saying, "Holy, holy, holy is the Lord God Almighty--the one who always was, who is, and who is still to come."
And the 24 elders
Rev.4.11 "You are worthy, O Lord our God, to receive glory and honor and power. For you created everything, and it is for your pleasure that they exist and were created."

Rev.5.1 And I saw a scroll in the right hand of the one who was sitting on the throne. There was writing on the inside and the outside of the scroll, and it was sealed with seven seals.



Will they read this, or will they avoid it. Those who want to be saved will not avoid the truth they will run to it and forsake all
Rev.5.5 - But one of the twenty-four elders said to me, "Stop weeping! Look, the Lion of the tribe of Judah, the heir to David's throne, has conquered. He is worthy to open the scroll and break its seven seals."
Rev.5.6 - I looked and I saw a Lamb that had been killed but was now standing between the throne and the four living beings and among the twenty-four elders. He had seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven spirits of God that are sent out into every part of the earth.
Rev.5.9 - And they sang a new song with these words: "You are worthy to take the scroll and break its seals and open it. For you were killed, and your blood has ransomed people for God from every tribe and language and people and nation.
Rev.5.10 - And you have caused them to become God's Kingdom and his priests. And they will reign on the earth."


Did I not quote this already, this verse 12, now before God whom I stand I speak these words and anyone who calls it a lie let it be recorded against them. The fear of God is the beginning of wisdom but fools love their own ways.

I speak with authority and boldness of the one who sent me.

Rev.5.12 - And they sang in a mighty chorus: "The Lamb is worthy--the Lamb who was killed. He is worthy to receive power and riches and wisdom and strength and honor and glory and blessing."


But then they didn't worship him alone but God who was the one sitting on the throne and the lamb, verse 13.

Then God spoke in Rev.21.5 - And the one sitting on the throne said, "Look, I am making all things new!" And then he said to me, "Write this down, for what I tell you is trustworthy and true."
Rev.21.6 - And he also said, "It is finished! I am the Alpha and the Omega--the Beginning and the End. To all who are thirsty I will give the springs of the water of life without charge!
Rev.21.7 - All who are victorious will inherit all these blessings, and I will be their God, and they will be my children.
Rev.21.8 - But cowards who turn away from me, and unbelievers, and the corrupt, and murderers, and the immoral, and those who practice witchcraft, and idol worshipers, and all liars--their doom is in the lake that burns with fire and sulfur. This is the second death."


And God spoke again in Revelation 22
Rev.22.12 - "See, I am coming soon, and my reward is with me, to repay all according to their deeds.
Rev.22.13 - I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End."
Rev.22.14 - Blessed are those who wash their robes so they can enter through the gates of the city and eat the fruit from the tree of life.
Rev.22.15 - Outside the city are the dogs--the sorcerers, the sexually immoral, the murderers, the idol worshipers, and all who love to live a lie.


Then the Lamb, Jesus, beside God spoke,
Rev.22.16 - "I, Jesus, have sent my angel to give you this message for the churches. I am both the source of David and the heir to his throne. I am the bright morning star."



Are you still going to deny God's word?

Hebrews 13:8 : " Jesus Christ is the same yesterday, today, and forever."

Does it not sound like the Revelation 1:8 when it says "...says the Lord God. "I am the one who is, who always was, and who is still to come, the Almighty One." ?

We see the same thing said for Jesus in Hebrews, said for God in Revelation

gohf:
you perceived foolishness from God's word because it doesn't the standard you follow?

It was not a temptation, I gave you an offer let us go through the Bible even though I followed your quotes you rejected the word without reason but with repetition.

Don't be bothered with me o, do you think God isn't seeing us how heart and our reaction to God's word.

I read what you wrote I considered where you may have misunderstood I tried with patience to show you but I decided to use your words to teach others because you rejected them.

I am before God Almighty Jehovah, afraid of his judgement and I declare with boldness I reject that which contradicts God's word that Jesus is God.

For I believe in God who sent his Son to us, and I believe in the son and obey his words which are from the Father and I in no way believe God became a man for it is written God is not a man. No matter the imaginations or explanation from men I choose to believe what God has revealed as the truth and only the truth least I perish for my sins.

You gave me an offer to go through the Bible, have we been going through the Emerald Tablets all these while?

DaddyCoool:


You make me laugh. Why can't you accept the simple TRUTH that Christ is God but NOT the Father??!!. If you say Christ is not God, then why is he being worshipped?? And why is the Father not jealous at all, as He would be with Baal, Shiva, etc. And if you say he is not God then why has the Father empowered those that have been worshipping him as God all these centuries. Unless you are saying the Father is powerless. Is that what you're saying?
These are facts! HISTORY people have actually lived through NOT some arcane words in a much edited and manipulated book!

Because it is a lie from the pit of hell.


You claim God sent another god to save us, by saying so you claiming God Almighty isn't God enough to save.

Nachmonides:


Hebrews 13:8 : " Jesus Christ is the same yesterday, today, and forever."

Does it not sound like the Revelation 1:8 when it says "...says the Lord God. "I am the one who is, who always was, and who is still to come, the Almighty One." ?

We see the same thing said for Jesus in Hebrews, said for God in Revelation

What could Hebrews 13:8 mean, try to twist it, let's see what you can come up with