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wirinet:

Sorry jare. I thought you are one of them making all kinds of claims without any proof.
Imagine showing a colour photograph of Eze Nri Òbalíke, someone wearing an embroidered cotton fabric that died in 1936 as proof of Nri civilisation being 4000 years old. Even in the US colour photograph was not common in the 30s. Most photos of world War 11 were in black and white.

If you look at the photo of Eze Nri Òbalíke closely you will see pattern on the wall superimposed on the right shoulder, showing clearly that the photo was photoshopped.

There is original picture of that man which is in black and white however the man was a chief priest not actually a king.

Ojiofor:


No 1,If circumcision of male child on the 8th day is Jewish custom what about female circumcision widely practised in Igboland but not in Israel? Circumcision is African culture borrow by the Jews.
No2 is false.
No3 every village have their own market day like my village our rest and market day is Orie not Eke.
No4 is African traditional religion it is not only practised in Igboland.
This is my argument,you people claim to have migrated from Israel why then is the OP attaching Nri to Lejja metal site which scientists have dated to be over 6000 years which is way older than Eri/Gad the Jewish migrants to Igboland?
Abeg make una carry una confusion seat one place.

Falasha Jews of Ethiopia also practice female circumcision, and they are still considered Jews.

It is also clear your knowledge of Omenana is limited, otherwise you would have known that Igba nkwa and Onwa asato, encapsulate all the major practices of the over feast. Go and upgrade yourself before you jump on o this argument.

Now some other villages may even have Oye or Afor as their days of rest. The point being that their is always a day of rest.
Yorubas don't have a day of rest. So clearly Igbos have a Shabbat concept, just like the Jews. For Jews, it is Saturday and not Eke or Afor

BrodaBenad:


you mnk boys are the reasons we're receiving insults upadan


we're Aboriginals here we're a people who started our civilization in the isolated forest here. we learnt weaving, we learnt how live and be independent.


We are not jews not even close


we're Africans and all our DNAs don't have any trace of middle East

you're more related to Yorubas linguistically
and genetically because we're in the volta Niger family of languages same with Edoid and akokoid groups

I am not even a fan of mnk.

While you are here clowning for Yorubas, the same Yorubas are knocking down your properties in Lagos, and always very willing to partner with Fulanis to keep Igbos marginalised.
Didn't you see how Tinubu and his minions usurped the Igbo turn, and you are here wishing to be liked by the Yorubas. They are not our relatives. A true brother will look after your interest. It is time Igbos become pragmatic and act accordingly. Igbos even have closer neighbours. Yoruba territory is hundreds of Kms from Igbo territory.

And by the way, Yorubas are all over YouTube trying to claim they are Jews. They are jealous of Igbos because Igbos have Israelite origins

BrodaBenad:
we'll follow evidence for now

lejja and Afikpo are the oldest based on archological evidence

Nri is the oldest kingdom that is the first people to have Eze

you know Eze originally means priest or skilled one
before it was now associated to king

that's a story for another day

Eze Nri still remains the high priest of the Igbo belief system, so Eze still has that priestly connotation

Ojiofor:


We should be proud of our heritage as a people rather than claiming to be migrants in our own land by some people.It is pathetic.

Yorubas also claim to be migrants either from Egypt or that they fell from heaven.

Ojiofor:


Leja and Ugwueke cave in Uturu are the two most oldest sites in Igboland that I know.
Attaching every Igbo civilization to Nri is what I oppose.

Have you heard of the Nsude pyramids in Enugu state? Apparently they're dedicated to the Ogwugwu shrine. Guess the clan that owns Ogwugwu shrine. Of course the Nris. They are the only clan that can set up Ogwugwu shrines.

What this means is that you cannot now talk about Nsude pyramids without considering the fact that Nri people have something to do with it.

OfoIgbo:


I am not even a fan of mnk.

While you are here clowning for Yorubas, the same Yorubas are knocking down your properties in Lagos, and always very willing to partner with Fulanis to keep Igbos marginalised.
Didn't you see how Tinubu and his minions usurped the Igbo turn, and you are here wishing to be liked by the Yorubas. They are not our relatives. A true brother will look after your interest. It is time Igbos become pragmatic and act accordingly. Igbos even have closer neighbours. Yoruba territory is hundreds of Kms from Igbo territory.

And by the way, Yorubas are all over YouTube trying to claim they are Jews. They are jealous of Igbos because Igbos have Israelite origins

oh I'm not Mnk slave but somehow you're spewing Thier rubbish victim nonsense!!

Nigeria isn't fair to anyone


so mechionu


again we're not Jews linguistically, genetically, religiously and spacially

we have sites older than Jacob who is thier ancestor

cope

wirinet:

4000 years ko, 4 million years ni. OK, show us your proof. You made so many extraordinary claims without a shred of proof.
You have a civilisation that is 4000 years with no writing, no science, no pottery, no architecture, nothing.

all i see here is a cope

all the studies and fragments of the potteries of Afikpo are out there in open sources dating to 2000 BCE that's 4000 years +


your cry means nothing

wirinet:

Sorry jare. I thought you are one of them making all kinds of claims without any proof.
Imagine showing a colour photograph of Eze Nri Òbalíke, someone wearing an embroidered cotton fabric that died in 1936 as proof of Nri civilisation being 4000 years old. Even in the US colour photograph was not common in the 30s. Most photos of world War 11 were in black and white.

If you look at the photo of Eze Nri Òbalíke closely you will see pattern on the wall superimposed on the right shoulder, showing clearly that the photo was photoshopped.

that's an obviously colourized picture

this is the original copy

OfoIgbo:


Eze Nri still remains the high priest of the Igbo belief system, so Eze still has that priestly connotation

yes

wirinet:

No mind them. Small time dem go claim say the Garden of Eden where Yahweh created Adam and Eve is in Igboland.

Early Civilisations starts due to some extraordinary geographical advantage, either a confluence of two rivers, a large river, an ocean, a fertile land or great mountain. What advantages did Igbo land have that ed flourishing Civilisation?

Igbo have mountains,low lands and dense forest fertile forests

with fruits and everything they needed

yams used to grow on their own in the forest all we do is go harvest them

Igbo believe that yam is a God given dish we respect it thats why we set out a day to celebrate it

same with peppers and other vegetables

it's the reason why an Igbo diet is nutritionally rich with vegetables and different kinds of garni

Igbos are not alien to Rivers, lakes, lagoons,streams and streams we have them in abundant

infact Igbo people made one of the largest boats recorded then by the whites that came here

Igbo flourished and our population exploded
and spreading out to the west occupying 40% of Delta State space and second largest ethnic group there some further spread southward into Rivers some even further into Bayelsa forming parts of towns like Osekwenike and further east to cross River boarders and Benue some even in Kogi state


So yeah, our reach is a testament of an explosion of population that lead to our spread

BrodaBenad:


all i see here is a cope

all the studies and fragments of the potteries of Afikpo are out there in open sources dating to 2000 BCE that's 4000 years +


your cry means nothing

Still just claims. I asked for proof, and you still provide non.

BrodaBenad:


Igbo have mountains,low lands and dense forest fertile forests

with fruits and everything they needed

yams used to grow on their own in the forest all we do is go harvest them

Igbo believe that yam is a God given dish we respect it thats why we set out a day to celebrate it

same with peppers and other vegetables

it's the reason why an Igbo diet is nutritionally rich with vegetables and different kinds of garni

Igbos are not alien to Rivers, lakes, lagoons,streams and streams we have them in abundant

infact Igbo people made one of the largest boats recorded then by the whites that came here

Igbo flourished and our population exploded
and spreading out to the west occupying 40% of Delta State space and second largest ethnic group there some further spread southward into Rivers some even further into Bayelsa forming parts of towns like Osekwenike and further east to cross River boarders and Benue some even in Kogi state


So yeah, our reach is a testament of an explosion of population that lead to our spread

Go and read what geographical features gave rise to ancient Civilisations like mesopotamia/Babylonia, Egyptian, Roman, Greek,etc. You will find the Igbos have non.

Which mountain dey igboland? Ordinary hill sef, una no get, e come remain mountain.
Una get ocean, great river, fertile lands? Forests are the hardest places for agriculture due to obvious reasons. That's why the agricultural revolution started in savannahs or semi desert areas.

Ancient Civilisations rise due to trade, agriculture or warfare. If truly you had a Civilisation stretching 4000 years, your would have conquered or at dominated all around you, if not all of Nigeria by now.

wirinet:

Go and read what geographical features gave rise to ancient Civilisations like mesopotamia/Babylonia, Egyptian, Roman, Greek,etc. You will find the Igbos have non.

Which mountain dey igboland? Ordinary hill sef, una no get, e come remain mountain.
Una get ocean, great river, fertile lands? Forests are the hardest places for agriculture due to obvious reasons. That's why the agricultural revolution started in savannahs or semi desert areas.

Ancient Civilisations rise due to trade, agriculture or warfare. If truly you had a Civilisation stretching 4000 years, your would have conquered or at dominated all around you, if not all of Nigeria by now.

you need population to spread and population needs food Igbos were sufficient

Either you're ignorant or just mischievous Enugu terrain are one of the mountainous terrains in Nigeria

All Igbo Land are arable and fertile and comprise of both grasslands and dense forests

Igbos were wonderful blacksmiths they made tools for agriculture

Talking about trade, Igbo are not new to trade they believe in intercommunial trades like in every Igbo town they have specific market days in thier markets like Asaba people sell On Orie market days Onitsha sells on Ǹkwọ day Okwe close to Asaba sells on Eke day

no close community sells same day , either your market is on eke, orie , ǹkwọ or afọ


Igbo trades went as far as the creeks in Niger delta selling palm oil to whites further north as far as idah in kogi state and westward trading with Benins

Igbo uniqueness is not having powerful kings because we're more of republican society where there's no place for tyrants


it seems you have nothing to say

OfoIgbo:


Falasha Jews of Ethiopia also practice female circumcision, and they are still considered Jews.

It is also clear your knowledge of Omenana is limited, otherwise you would have known that Igba nkwa and Onwa asato, encapsulate all the major practices of the over feast. Go and upgrade yourself before you jump on o this argument.

Now some other villages may even have Oye or Afor as their days of rest. The point being that their is always a day of rest.
Yorubas don't have a day of rest. So clearly Igbos have a Shabbat concept, just like the Jews. For Jews, it is Saturday and not Eke or Afor

The problem you people have is to assume your village culture to be Igbo culture in general no it is not.
That is how you proclaimed EKE to be general resting day or market day across Igboland.
Yes I will never understand your concocted Igbrew Omenala that is not Omenala Igbo.

Ojiofor:


The problem you people have is to assume your village culture to be Igbo culture in general no it is not.
That is how you proclaimed EKE to be general resting day or market day across Igboland.
Yes I will never understand your concocted Igbrew Omenala that is not Omenala Igbo.

You just itted that your own village has a Shabbat concept. Now you are rigmaroling. My own area and villages near my own village observe their day of rest on Eke days.
But I am also aware that some Igbo communities have different days, which is why I didn't argue with you when you gave me a different Shabbat day for your own community.

It obviously pained you when I proved to you that Igbos also have over concept. Something you obviously did not know. What that means is that your knowledge of Omenana Igbo is seriously limited.
Yorubas don't have over concept. So we are gradually arriving at the obvious conclusion that Igbo customs are more related to the Jewish customs than to Yoruba customs.
Yorubas have proven time and time again, that they are not really our siblings. Guess who they ed during our most trying times during the Nigeria-Biafra war? Guess those who used starvation as an instrument of war against Igbos.

I am happier being associated with the Jews, than with Yorubas. Thank God the Jewish hierarchy recognizes the links between Igbos and Jews also.

OfoIgbo:


You just itted that your own village has a Shabbat concept. Now you are rigmaroling. My own area and villages near my own village observe their day of rest on Eke days.
But I am also aware that some Igbo communities have different days, which is why I didn't argue with you when you gave me a different Shabbat day for your own community.

It obviously pained you when I proved to you that Igbos also have over concept. Something you obviously did not know. What that means is that your knowledge of Omenana Igbo is seriously limited.
Yorubas don't have over concept. So we are gradually arriving at the obvious conclusion that Igbo customs are more related to the Jewish customs than to Yoruba customs.
Yorubas have proven time and time again, that they are not really our siblings. Guess who they ed during our most trying times during the Nigeria-Biafra war? Guess those who used starvation as an instrument of war against Igbos.

I am happier being associated with the Jews, than with Yorubas. Thank God the Jewish hierarchy recognizes the links between Igbos and Jews also.

Nkọgheri


you're not Jews nothing at all links you with semites in middle east stop being stvpid and loud

1. No genetic markers

2. No linguistic markers

3.No Archological evidence of items of ancient Igbo land points to semites in middle East.
again, you're more related to Yorubas and Edos Linguistically than any other group in the world

stop being stvpid

BrodaBenad:


Nkọgheri


you're not Jews nothing at all links you with semites in middle east stop being stvpid and loud

1. No genetic markers

2. No linguistic markers

3.No Archological evidence of items of ancient Igbo land points to semites in middle East.
again, you're more related to Yorubas and Edos Linguistically than any other group in the world

stop being stvpid

Culturally Igbos are more related to Jews than to Yorubas and Edos. You can take this to the bank.

NOw to further ruin your New Year, please go through this ruling from a Jewish Rabbinical court on Igbos

https://static1.squarespace.com/static/5a98cbc3b40b9da93f7c5126/t/61f35b8ad59d991291cab3fa/1643338634761/Teshubah-on-Igbo-Israelites.pdf

OfoIgbo:


Culturally Igbos are more related to Jews than to Yorubas and Edos. You can take this to the bank.

NOw to further ruin your New Year, please go through this ruling from a Jewish Rabbinical court on Igbos

https://static1.squarespace.com/static/5a98cbc3b40b9da93f7c5126/t/61f35b8ad59d991291cab3fa/1643338634761/Teshubah-on-Igbo-Israelites.pdf

Ifele unu na-eme m.

OfoIgbo:


Culturally Igbos are more related to Jews than to Yorubas and Edos. You can take this to the bank.

NOw to further ruin your New Year, please go through this ruling from a Jewish Rabbinical court on Igbos

https://static1.squarespace.com/static/5a98cbc3b40b9da93f7c5126/t/61f35b8ad59d991291cab3fa/1643338634761/Teshubah-on-Igbo-Israelites.pdf

what will you say about Ugwuele excavation dating Igbo presence there to the stone age 100,000 + years ago

RedboneSmith:


Ifele unu na-eme m.

eziokwu

Dilector sara ha íshí nnọọ

BrodaBenad:


what will you say about Ugwuele excavation dating Igbo presence there to the stone age 100,000 + years ago

Assume that there were one thousand Igbos a hundred thousand years ago, Igbos will be numbering in their billions today

OfoIgbo:


Assume that there were one thousand Igbos a hundred thousand years ago, Igbos will be numbering in their billions today

That is NOT how it works. The Khoisan people of Southern Africa have been determined by genetic studies to be the oldest human group on the face of the earth. By your logic, they should be numbering in billions too.

But Khoisan people are only about 100,000 people today.

RedboneSmith:


That is NOT how it works. The Khoisan people of Southern Africa have been determined by genetic studies to be the oldest human group on the face of the earth. By your logic, they should be numbering in billions too.

But Khoisan people are only about 100,000 people today.

The reason Khoisan people are as few as they are, is because other groups broke out of the Khoisan population to form their own ethnic groups.

To properly capture the real population of Khoisan people, you will also have to number the population of ethnic groups that broke out of the original Khoisan population.

Of course major.natural or unnatural disasters may have reduced their population drastically. But my point is that you cannot be throwing up numbers without giving me a statistical justification of that number

OfoIgbo:


Assume that there were one thousand Igbos a hundred thousand years ago, Igbos will be numbering in their billions today

What is this one talking about?