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Good point you make on the flipside Mikel and Moses for all their achievement never won AFOTY unlike Ademola and Victor plus the latter's achievement is more noteworthy considering they didn't play for European top echelon teams.

Goke7:

Lookman, osihmen and friends need to win an afcon title to get ahead of even Mikel, Victor Moses and enyeama.

Both Mikel and Moses even have European club titles while enyeama has an African champs league title to add to their Afcon title

Hope a new environment will spark a rejuvenation in form. Yes Taiwo might not be the best striker in the world but he's a decent EPL forward.

Samueltemi337:
Nottingham Forest will listen to offers for Taiwo Awoniyi this month, if they can secure a replacement of similar ability.

Source: Daily Mail Sport

chrisooblog:
Good point you make on the flipside Mikel and Moses for all their achievement never won AFOTY unlike Ademola and Victor plus the latter's achievement is more noteworthy considering they didn't play for European top echelon teams.

but for Yaya Toure, Mikel or Moses would have won APOTY, even Lookman or Osihmen wouldn't have beaten a Yaya Toure, make we talk true o!

Yaya won APOTY in 2011, 2012, 2013, and 2014, that's how dominant in Africa he was o!

Goke7:


but for Yaya Toure, Mikel or Moses would have won APOTY, even Lookman or Osihmen wouldn't have beaten a Yaya Toure, make we talk true o!

Which kind talk be this

Sadiq to Valencia on the table .

chrisooblog:
I agree matters of this kind can be subjective but basic criteria should be impact at club/national team level, trophies won, individual honours, plus performances at big tournaments.

Christian Chukwu 1980. MVP

Goke7:


but for Yaya Toure, Mikel or Moses would have won APOTY, even Lookman or Osihmen wouldn't have beaten a Yaya Toure, make we talk true o!

Yaya won APOTY in 2011, 2012, 2013, and 2014, that's how dominant in Africa he was o!

Why not,they beat prime Salah, if they perform better,they would .

Mikel could not beat Yaya Toure because of extremely low goal contributions count for both country and club compare to Yaya.

chrisooblog:
Good point you make on the flipside Mikel and Moses for all their achievement never won AFOTY unlike Ademola and Victor plus the latter's achievement is more noteworthy considering they didn't play for European top echelon teams.

The APOTY of the year the duo you mentioned aside from Lookman Afcon heroic display was as. A result of majorly club side success

Napoleon55:

Well spoken.

When it comes to club level,apart from Kanu,Mikel,Finidi and Taribo maybe,
the achievements of these two(Osimhen and Lookman) dwarves the rest of the super eagles players including the legendary fan favorite Jay-Jay.

However, without specific metrics given to determine the top 10,it will be difficult to rank them properly.

Because the OGs who watched legends like Odegbami,Muda Lawal and Christien Chukwu who never had opportunity to play in Europe but won us AFCON trophy would want to make a case for them ahead of those whose their biggest achievements is in Europe.
And the average Nigerian fans believes that your achievement as player in green and white colors carries more weight.

For me ,the duo of Osimhen and Lookman will certainly make my Nigerian top 15 greatest especially by the time they retire.
But there is no room for Ekon yet.

In no particular order,
Top 15 Nigeria's greatest footballers are:

1.Kanu
2.Okocha
3.Rashidi
4.Mikel
5.Finidi
6.Amuneke
7.Oliseh
8.Enyeama
9.Osimhen
10.Lookman
11.Taribo
12.Ikpeba
13.Keshi
14.Odegbami
15.Muda Lawal

Completing the top 20 are:

16.Celestine Babayaro
17.Christien Chukwu
18.Daniel Amokachi
19.Samson Siasia
20.Uche Okechukwu

And no Yobo?

Napoleon55:

Why not,they beat prime Salah, if they perform better,they would .

Mikel could not beat Yaya Toure because of extremely low goal contributions count for both country and club compare to Yaya.

In the seasons under review, Salah was not dominant enough to beat Osihmen and Lookman. Yaya Toure was more dominant than any other African player in those years he won, only Samuel Eto before him has such a feat. It was even the Afcon win in 2013 that gave Mikel a slim chance but not enough to match up to Yaya. A player winning APOTY 4 consecutive times is no child's play. Salah I doubt will ever match Yaya.

Napoleon55:

Why not,they beat prime Salah, if they perform better,they would .

Mikel could not beat Yaya Toure because of extremely low goal contributions count for both country and club compare to Yaya.

Did Lookman beat Salah for goals both country and club last year? 2013 Mikel performance was good enough to win Afoty winning Afcon and champions league same year.

Samueltemi337:
Nottingham Forest will listen to offers for Taiwo Awoniyi this month, if they can secure a replacement of similar ability.

Source: Daily Mail Sport

Steve Cooper favored Awo over Wood and Awoniyi's goals actually kept them in the EPL. Unfortunately Nuno prefers Wood and the results have justified that. In my opinion if it was Awo starting, Forrest would still have performed well, It is what it is.

I don't think Wood can play for longer again and at some point in the season, nature might take its course on Iroko.

Bro do you really think if Lookman repeated the same feat during those Toure years he won't have won?

Plus the year Mikel came second it was only the AFCON title you could hold as his major achievement that year and he wasn't even the MVP sef?

Club football Mikel was nowhere to be found but individually Yaya was just levels above.

Don't forget after Kanu you're talking about two players who are the highest ever ranked Nigerians in Balon'Dor and FIFA awards.

Was Mikel even nominated for Balon'Dor in 2013 before even mentioning where he finished finally?

Goke7:


but for Yaya Toure, Mikel or Moses would have won APOTY, even Lookman or Osihmen wouldn't have beaten a Yaya Toure, make we talk true o!

Yaya won APOTY in 2011, 2012, 2013, and 2014, that's how dominant in Africa he was o!

You're right although I find it a strange choice considering Odegbami and Lawal scored goals and got assists along the way.

forgiveness:


Christian Chukwu 1980. MVP

chrisooblog:
Bro do you really think if Lookman repeated the same feat during those Toure years he won't have won?

Plus the year Mikel came second it was only the AFCON title you could hold as his major achievement that year and he wasn't even the MVP sef?

Club football Mikel was nowhere to be found but individually Yaya was just levels above.

Don't forget after Kanu you're talking about two players who are the highest ever ranked Nigerians in Balon'Dor and FIFA awards.

Was Mikel even nominated for Balon'Dor in 2013 before even mentioning where he finished finally?

The thing about players like Yaya and Eto is that they were doing great stuff season after season and their impact even at their clubs was too much to ignore, you know why some folks here slam osihmen despite how excellent he is? It's because they want to see that dominance like Eto or Yaya cos that's how he can have 2,3 or 4 APOTYs. Mikel was also consistent despite the criticism and he was a major reason we won Afcon 2013, He's the reason Yaya couldn't do much damage to us in the quarterfinals that year. Lookman or Osihmen still needs to power us to an afcon title before we can finally consider them as one of our greatest players ever, Kanu won Olympic Gold for us despite not winning Afcon and that's why he's still miles ahead so Osihmen and Lookman still need to land us something big for us as a nation or sur Yekini's goal tally. My view please

Ídolo wear two chains 😂

Chain of goals and assists loading this year

Ademola Lookman on the bench for Atalanta against Inter Milan in their Supercoppa semi final match

Samueltemi337:
Ademola Lookman on the bench for Atalanta against Inter Milan in their Supercoppa semi final match

Gasperini don dey smoke for inside New Year again, same Inter wey don NATO you 4–0 back-to-back...

Mikel had always been off and on as regards how consistent he was for the SE. In club football he was ok but ask Chelsea fan between him, Kante, Essien, Matic, and Makelele who they rated most in the DM and the answer will stare you boldly in the face.

Sorry I don't rate an underage tournament that much like the Olympics so using it to score points for Papilo won't fly. I ire Kanu but failing to score a single goal in 9 senior tournaments doesn't exactly wow me but that is another discussion for another day.

To remphasize Osimhen is the highest ever ranked Nigerian for Balon'Dor and FIFA awards. Lookman is the only Nigerian heck African to score a Hatrick in a European final feats the great Yaya Toure never achieved.

The only area of mutual agreement between us is that both need to win tournaments with SE to cement their legacy.

Goke7:


The thing about players like Yaya and Eto is that they were doing great stuff season after season and their impact even at their clubs was too much to ignore, you know why some folks here slam osihmen despite how excellent he is? It's because they want to see that dominance like Eto or Yaya cos that's how he can have 2,3 or 4 APOTYs. Mikel was also consistent despite the criticism and he was a major reason we won Afcon 2013, He's the reason Yaya couldn't do much damage to us in the quarterfinals that year. Lookman or Osihmen still needs to power us to an afcon title before we can finally consider them as one of our greatest players ever, Kanu won Olympic Gold for us despite not winning Afcon and that's why he's still miles ahead so Osihmen and Lookman still need to land us something big for us as a nation or sur Yekini's goal tally. My view please

Goke7:


In the seasons under review, Salah was not dominant enough to beat Osihmen and Lookman. Yaya Toure was more dominant than any other African player in those years he won, only Samuel Eto before him has such a feat. It was even the Afcon win in 2013 that gave Mikel a slim chance but not enough to match up to Yaya. A player winning APOTY 4 consecutive times is no child's play. Salah I doubt will ever match Yaya.

Which seasons?
Salah have won 2 already during Sadio Mane era and has been among the top 3 APOTY since 2017 till date except for one edition which is this year,and he is on course to win the next one.
Osimhen and Lookman happens to outperformed him for last two seasons doesn't mean he is not dominant.

zicky:
Did Lookman beat Salah for goals both country and club last year? 2013 Mikel performance was good enough to win Afoty winning Afcon and champions league same year.

I mean that Osimhen and Lookman beat him to APOTY on his prime.

Mikel could not beat Prime Yaya Toure because of his very low goals count both for club and country.
Even 5 to 7 league goals would have been ok for him to win ahead of Yaya that year.
At least Osimhen and Lookman outscored Salah the year they won.

Goke7:


but for Yaya Toure, Mikel or Moses would have won APOTY, even Lookman or Osihmen wouldn't have beaten a Yaya Toure, make we talk true o!

Yaya won APOTY in 2011, 2012, 2013, and 2014, that's how dominant in Africa he was o!

Yaya was winning APOTY when his highest ballon d'or ranking ever was 12th. His toughest opponent during his run was drogba who had 12 goals during the season under review while winning the UCL. All of his APOTY were always based on his club achievements cos he didn't win during the year ivory coast
won the afcon. By that premise a lookman that scored 30 goals , reached afcon final, won the Europa league while scoring a hatrick in the final and osimhen that won the serie a golden boot and placed 8th in the ballon d'or will definitely not have any issues winning during YaYa's APOTY run.

Gift Orban to Hoffenheim done and dusted.

Words from TheGoodJoe...

He says Happy New Year to you all (he will soon come do that himself) and can't wait to be back. He is feeling better and doing better. Just needs to sort out one or two and he will come say hello.

He really appreciates everyone once again and he says he knows that some of una are GUILTY for drawing analogies in your mind between Man City's form and his own health state. When he returns, una go collect. 😂😂

Happy New Year again everyone. Cheers to us.

TheSuperNerd:
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He says Happy New Year to you all (he will soon come do that himself) and can't wait to be back. He is feeling better and doing better. Just needs to sort out one or two and he will come say hello.

He really appreciates everyone once again and he says he knows that some of una are GUILTY for drawing analogies in your mind between Man City's form and his own health state. When he returns, una go collect. 😂😂

Happy New Year again everyone. Cheers to us.

Are you sure you are not among them? nice to hear Oga Joe is doing good.

The year that osimhen won the APOY by leading Napoli to their first title in over 30 years and being their best or 2nd best player during that season. I doubt any version of Yaya toure was more exceptional or would had detroned osimhen let alone lookman. Osimhen 22/23 season was more impressive than yaya 2013 season

Innocent, I am. 🙌🏽🙌🏽😄

Goke7:


Are you sure you are not among them? nice to hear Oga Joe is doing good.

Samueltemi337:
You would have simply asked me why I made that statement
APOTY will be done before AFCON
The next AFCON starts December 21st

Ahhh, really? I didn’t know they moved the AFCON. Nawa for CAF sha.

So then 6 months later we’ll now have a WC?

Bannedlargejr:
The year that osimhen won the APOY by leading Napoli to their first title in over 30 years and being their best or 2nd best player during that year. I doubt any version of Yaya toure was more exceptional or would had detroned osimhen let alone lookman. Osimhen 22/23 season was more impressive than yaya 2013 season

Fixed

Samueltemi337:
Fixed

Fixed?? Kvara was listed as the league MVP that season. Hence, I included theirs best or 2nd best. (Depending on who’s judging) As an analyst, you have to be devoid of any emotion when analyzing games

Samueltemi337:
Fixed

You no know your guy again?