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Ibime, what do you think of the ruling against Musk by an activist judge in Delaware?

The judge is a thief and has no business being a judge.

CEO of UnitedHeath gunned down in New York after coming out of his hotel in Manhattan

What would possibly motivate someone to assassin’ate the United Healthcare CEO?🙆🏽‍♂️🥹

bemeruca:


He is free to cap for whoever he wants. I am surprised that's all. It's the first time I am learning about that. I called budaatum n AmazonTopaz out for ing buhari for 8 years.

I am not obsessed with trump. Trump wasn't my first choice but anything is better than what the democrats can put out.

You ? I had thought you would be hand picked, given cabinet position and be inaugurated on Jan 20.

PDPGuy:
What would possibly motivate someone to assassin’ate the United Healthcare CEO?🙆🏽‍♂️🥹

So sad! 😨

bemeruca:
Ibime, what do you think of the ruling against Musk by an activist judge in Delaware?

The judge is a thief and has no business being a judge.

You have already put an adjective against the judge (activist), therefore you are biased.

The question rather is whether CEOs should be compensated on underlying company financial performance rather than share valuation to protect the integrity of markets from pump and dump schemes initiated by CEO to maximise their compensation

PDPGuy:
What would possibly motivate someone to assassin’ate the United Healthcare CEO?🙆🏽‍♂️🥹

Why was it that easy to get to him?
He is the CEO of the largest healthcare company on the planet.
He is at all times a high value target

This is a major security lapse.

-Lord

PDPGuy:
What would possibly motivate someone to assassin’ate the United Healthcare CEO?🙆🏽‍♂️🥹

Someone who got their health cover declined?

Wife or love rival shit?

LordAdam16:


Why was it that easy to get to him?
He is the CEO of the largest healthcare company on the planet.
He is at all times a high value target

This is a major security lapse.

-Lord

I don't think so, na all those tech bros dey move with security. There is no reason for a CEO of a healthcare company to move with security.

LordAdam16:


Why was it that easy to get to him?
He is the CEO of the largest healthcare company on the planet.
He is at all times a high value target

This is a major security lapse.

-Lord

The kind of questions you ask when you've never stepped foot in the US.
This is not Nigeria, most people don't move around with security, sirens blazing.

Ibime:


Someone who got their health cover declined?

Wife or love rival shit?

I’m more inclined to believe it may be the work of a rival, because it’s gonna take a lot for someone to engage in premeditated mur’der just for being denied health coverage

PDPGuy:


I’m more inclined to believe it may be the work of a rival, because it’s gonna take a lot for someone to engage in premeditated mur’der just for being denied health coverage

Mad people plenty for this world oh

A Prime Minister of England was assassinated in the 1800s because civil service was moving slow on a compensation claim for one nigga like that, so he held the Head of Government responsible

It won't be a business rival, he is just a CEO on like £8m, not a major shareholder

I'd be inclined to assume this is some personal shït. His life insurance cover will be 8x his salary minimum. I will start from his home with the investigation

Ibime:


I don't think so, na all those tech bros dey move with security. There is no reason for a CEO of a healthcare company to move with security.

No reason?

He is the head of a health insurance company. The largest.
A crazy can attempt to go after him because they were dissatisfied with service delivery for a dead relative.
Or over claims.
How many Americans have shot up chiropractor offices?
Foreign adversaries/non-state actors desiring access to health information of over 100m Americans could go after him or his immediate family.

UnitedHealth group will fork over $2+B on costs related to cyberattacks and ransomware this year.
If there was no security package for him as CEO, his family should sue.

How much would it cost UnitedHealth to hire 2-4 ex operators to stay on him at all times?
Their revenue last year was over $350 BILLION.
All major health companies in the US have massive security departments.
You mean they couldn't add a protective detail team to their roster of 440,000 employees?

-Lord

Ibime:


You have already put an adjective against the judge (activist), therefore you are biased.


The question rather is whether CEOs should be compensated on underlying company financial performance rather than share valuation to protect the integrity of markets from pump and dump schemes initiated by CEO to maximise their compensation

I did that because there are no other ways to look at it. It is what it is based on her decisions and her reasons.

LordAdam16:


No reason?

He is the head of a health insurance company. The largest.
A crazy can attempt to go after him because they were dissatisfied with service delivery for a dead relative.
Or over claims.
How many Americans have shot up chiropractor offices?
Foreign adversaries/non-state actors desiring access to health information of over 100m Americans could go after him or his immediate family.

UnitedHealth group will fork over $2+B on costs related to cyberattacks and ransomware this year.
If there was no security package for him as CEO, his family should sue.

How much would it cost UnitedHealth to hire 2-4 ex operators to stay on him at all times?
Their revenue last year was over $350 BILLION.
All major health companies in the US have massive security departments.
You mean they couldn't add a protective detail team to their roster of 440,000 employees?

-Lord

Calm down, this no be Naija. I happen to work for one of those US healthcare companies in the Fortune 100 with revenues larger than Coca Cola, Facebook etc. Our CEO does not move around with security. What you will see with him is a retinue of advisors (VPs of HR, Business Development etc). They move in packs but not with security. Na all those Zuckerberg, Elon them dey move with security because they are major shareholders and politically exposed people.

You can't be paying a nigga £8m and pay another £8m for his security like say he is Bezos or Zuck (for example, Facebook used to pay £14m per year for Zuck security in those days, about 8 years ago). He no special like that. It's not a politically charged role like Tech sector. Maybe they will all review that after this incident.

Ibime:


You have already put an adjective against the judge (activist), therefore you are biased.

The question rather is whether CEOs should be compensated on underlying company financial performance rather than share valuation to protect the integrity of markets from pump and dump schemes initiated by CEO to maximise their compensation

The compensation is based on an agreement which were accepted by stake holders through means of voting not once but twice. Elon achieves all the criteria for the cash out which was approved by a vote by 73% the first time and 72% the second time.

bemeruca:


The compensation is based on an agreement which were accepted by stake holders through means of voting not once but twice. Elon achieves all the criteria for the cash out which was approved by a vote by 73% the first time and 72% the second time.

Na Shareholders still challenge the compensation, make we dey watch

LordAdam16:


Why was it that easy to get to him?
He is the CEO of the largest healthcare company on the planet.
He is at all times a high value target

This is a major security lapse.

-Lord

Most CEOs in the U.S. do not move around with security, especially if they are within the U.S.

Ibime:


Mad people plenty for this world oh

A Prime Minister of England was assassinated in the 1800s because civil service was moving slow on a compensation claim for one nigga like that, so he held the Head of Government responsible

It won't be a business rival, he is just a CEO on like £8m, not a major shareholder

I'd be inclined to assume this is some personal shït. His life insurance cover will be 8x his salary minimum. I will start from his home with the investigation

Wow! Thats crazzzy that a whole Prime Minister would be killed’ for such a flimsy reason🙆🏽‍♂️

The bolded is a very plausible scenario!

PDPGuy:
What would possibly motivate someone to assassin’ate the United Healthcare CEO?🙆🏽‍♂️🥹

If I were an investigator:
1) Prior authorizations.
2)Letters of denial.
3) Refusals of life saving surgery because the patients are not on the necessary medications. Medications which were also previously denied by same insurance company? Dealing with insurance is so stressful for patients and providers alike.

So many reasons why an aggrieved family member who lost a loved one would resort to this. At least that’s what I think happened.

Been in healthcare long enough to see how desperate people can get when they have no hope. That’s why I’m sick of the people who voted against the one thing some poor people have (which is the affordable care act.) thinking they are hurting Obama because his name is attached to it.

I hope the CEO finds eternal rest. He was young.

PDPGuy:


I’m more inclined to believe it may be the work of a rival, because it’s gonna take a lot for someone to engage in premeditated mur’der just for being denied health coverage

If they lost a love one they absolutely could do what’s necessary to achieve this.

I wouldn’t think of a rival because the death of this CEO can’t permanently hurt the company. He’s just the head of the board. There are 10 of him waiting to take his position. MBA bros with no healthcare experience working hospitals employees into the ground are a dime a dozen. A rival would know that.

Unless you mean romantic rival. In which case, who knows?

PDPGuy:


I’m more inclined to believe it may be the work of a rival, because it’s gonna take a lot for someone to engage in premeditated mur’der just for being denied health coverage

UnitedHealth is one of the most hated Health care Insurance prviders and they have a reputation for denying claims a lot, I wont put it beyond a denied coverage

A rival wont do that unless he is insane, why will you as a rival likely very rich get involved in something like murder when they can easily trace it back to you and you are fvccked

Its desperate people wo have nothing to lose that will go open murder like that in public

Ibime:


Na Shareholders still challenge the compensation, make we dey watch

Yeah, a fringe group of shareholders challenged it but see what the judge's train of thought
Musk had too many friends on the board who also became wealthy by hitching their wagons to the Tesla star. She also contended that the shareholders who ed the compensation package were too ignorant for their votes to count.

In June, to address the judge’s complaints, the board and shareholders overwhelmingly voted to reinstate the plan. (This time, 72% of shareholders approved of the compensation package.) The fact that the shareholders re-affirmed the plan should have ended that matter.

According to the judge, it is morally wrong for someone to make that much money, never mind that his drive and creativity increased the company’s value (and the shareholder’s wealth) by 2,300%.

The same judge does not have issues awarding the lawyers almost 400million that musk has to pay them for the case.

This is nothing but an activist judge abusing their power. We saw this against Trump in New York

PDPGuy:
What would possibly motivate someone to assassin’ate the United Healthcare CEO?🙆🏽‍♂️🥹

SCOTUS is currently hearing the case for gender affirming care to minors. I can already hear Justice Alito questioning the argument in favor of it by govt solicitor Elizabeth Prelogar

Alito : Are there individuals born male and at some point identify as female but later identify as Male. Are there such people?
Prelogar: There are such people
Alito : So its not an immutable characteristics?

Tennessee solicitor General Rice: "How many minors have to have their bodies irreparably harmed for unproven benefits?"
Sotomayor: I'm sorry counsellor, Every medical treatment has a risk even taking aspirin. There is always going to be a percentage of populace going to suffer harm

armyofone:


You ? I had thought you would be hand picked, given cabinet position and be inaugurated on Jan 20.

Ibime:


Calm down, this no be Naija. I happen to work for one of those US healthcare companies in the Fortune 100 with revenues larger than Coca Cola, Facebook etc. Our CEO does not move around with security. What you will see with him is a retinue of advisors (VPs of HR, Business Development etc). They move in packs but not with security. Na all those Zuckerberg, Elon them dey move with security because they are major shareholders and politically exposed people.

You can't be paying a nigga £8m and pay another £8m for his security like say he is Bezos or Zuck (for example, Facebook used to pay £14m per year for Zuck security in those days, about 8 years ago). He no special like that. It's not a politically charged role like Tech sector. Maybe they will all review that after this incident.

That inevitable review is why the family has to sue.

That's like justifying Pfizer CEO not having a protective detail after how charged the whole vaccine situation became.
It was a reckless decision. I'd like to see the jury that nods approvingly when the company's attorney tells them they were scrimping on 8m/yr to secure a guy running a $350B/yr operation.

Big Pharma has a very bad rep. The list of folks with motive is endless.
We're talking victims of the opioid crisis, mental health crisis, the conspiracists, disgruntled relatives, medical debt being the leading cause of bankruptcy. Mix that with gun violence and it's astonishing that they let this guy walk around like he runs a hot dog stand.

In 1992, the President of Exxon was kidnapped from his NJ home. He died in a f*cking storage vault.
Big Oil. Big Finance. Big Tech. They all play the better safe than sorry game.
Meanwhile Big Pharma is waiting for a tragedy before reviewing security practices.
This is peak play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

His family should absolutely sue.

-Lord

raumdeuter:


UnitedHealth is one of the most hated Health care Insurance prviders and they have a reputation for denying claims a lot, I wont put it beyond a denied coverage

A rival wont do that unless he is insane, why will you as a rival likely very rich get involved in something like murder when they can easily trace it back to you and you are fvccked

Its desperate people wo have nothing to lose that will go open murder like that in public

cococandy:


If they lost a love one they absolutely could do what’s necessary to achieve this.

I wouldn’t think of a rival because the death of this CEO can’t permanently hurt the company. He’s just the head of the board. There are 10 of him waiting to take his position. MBA bros with no healthcare experience working hospitals employees into the ground are a dime a dozen. A rival would know that.

Unless you mean romantic rival. In which case, who knows?

I get your points. Losing a loved one due to denied medical coverage particularly stings!

LordAdam16:


That inevitable review is why the family has to sue.

That's like justifying Pfizer CEO not having a protective detail after how charged the whole vaccine situation became.
It was a reckless decision. I'd like to see the jury that nods approvingly when the company's attorney tells them they were scrimping on 8m/yr to secure a guy running a $350B/yr operation.

Big Pharma has a very bad rep. The list of folks with motive is endless.
We're talking victims of the opioid crisis, mental health crisis, the conspiracists, disgruntled relatives, medical debt being the leading cause of bankruptcy. Mix that with gun violence and it's astonishing that they let this guy walk around like he runs a hot dog stand.

In 1992, the President of Exxon was kidnapped from his NJ home. He died in a f*cking storage vault.
Big Oil. Big Finance. Big Tech. They all play the better safe than sorry game.
Meanwhile Big Pharma is waiting for a tragedy before reviewing security practices.
This is peak play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

His family should absolutely sue.

-Lord

This ain't big Pharma, this is Medical Insurance

E sure me die say Big Pharma move with security due to the various vaccine nutjobs out there

But from the style of execution, it doesn't look like a disgruntled wacko. This was a paid hit by some acquaintance of his.

Ibime:


This ain't big Pharma, this is Medical Insurance

E sure me die say Big Pharma move with security due to the various vaccine nutjobs out there

But from the style of execution, it doesn't look like a disgruntled wacko. This was a paid hit by some acquaintance of his.

certified pharma bro

LordAdam16:


That inevitable review is why the family has to sue.

That's like justifying Pfizer CEO not having a protective detail after how charged the whole vaccine situation became.
It was a reckless decision. I'd like to see the jury that nods approvingly when the company's attorney tells them they were scrimping on 8m/yr to secure a guy running a $350B/yr operation.

Big Pharma has a very bad rep. The list of folks with motive is endless.
We're talking victims of the opioid crisis, mental health crisis, the conspiracists, disgruntled relatives, medical debt being the leading cause of bankruptcy. Mix that with gun violence and it's astonishing that they let this guy walk around like he runs a hot dog stand.

In 1992, the President of Exxon was kidnapped from his NJ home. He died in a f*cking storage vault.
Big Oil. Big Finance. Big Tech. They all play the better safe than sorry game.
Meanwhile Big Pharma is waiting for a tragedy before reviewing security practices.
This is peak play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

His family should absolutely sue.

-Lord

Real question, do you know anyone at the partner or c suite level in Big Pharma, Finance or Tech?

Everyone who is actually in the US has told you that's generally not how it works here and you're still here yammering based on your perspective with how things work in Nigeria?

LordAdam16:


No reason?

He is the head of a health insurance company. The largest.
A crazy can attempt to go after him because they were dissatisfied with service delivery for a dead relative.
Or over claims.
How many Americans have shot up chiropractor offices?
Foreign adversaries/non-state actors desiring access to health information of over 100m Americans could go after him or his immediate family.

UnitedHealth group will fork over $2+B on costs related to cyberattacks and ransomware this year.
If there was no security package for him as CEO, his family should sue.

How much would it cost UnitedHealth to hire 2-4 ex operators to stay on him at all times?
Their revenue last year was over $350 BILLION.
All major health companies in the US have massive security departments.
You mean they couldn't add a protective detail team to their roster of 440,000 employees?

-Lord

It is not by this reasoning. Being the CEO of United Healthcare or any fortune 500 for that matter doesn't necessarily translate into heavy security here in the US. He would move just like anybody else.