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Is your reason of entering into the country justifiable before the port control guys? Please note it's not about only Nigerians but all national as well. Japan doesn't joke 🤣 once it comes to immigration oo or security oo.
I knew 🤣 lots of questions and evidences which i provided before I was allowed to enter into the country
Even in Japanese embassy website it's started that having Japanese tourist visa doesn't guarantee you of entering into the country.

Kingchineme6:
Please what's all this am hearing about japan denying Nigerians entering the country with tourist visa?

Please is the information true or false?

Kingchineme6:
Please what's all this am hearing about japan denying Nigerians entering the country with tourist visa?

Please is the information true or false?

Well, there has been a surge in tourism with some pressures on the infrastructure and deviations in social norms. So, I am not surprised tougher screening is ongoing at entry points. Also, for visa-free countries, Japan would introduce an ESTA-like system. This the govt said is to prevent over-stayers. Note: this is targeted at visa-free citizens. So, imagine for non-visa-free citizens?

Also, from the posts I have read by Nigerians wishing to come here, ALL ask whether a tourist visa can be changed/converted to a work visa. This means none is actually a tourist.

Let me state clearly: It is not possible to convert a visit visa to a work visa in Japan. It is impossible. Rules are not bent here. They are applied as they are. Without the COE and residence card as I explained above, LIFE WOULD BE MISERABLE. I am saying this because next year is EXPO 2025 which will run for almost a year.

Also, asylum laws have been changed such that the odds of being granted one are below zero. If you get approved and later have children, they cannot become permanent residents or naturalised citizens because of the initial asylum status of the parent. If one parent is Japanese (usually the mother), the spouse who got approved as an asylum applicant cannot become a permanent resident. Naturalisation is out of reach for asylum seekers. This law now makes it impossible to attain permanent residency for that class of immigrant.

cc: judecares1

Even in Japanese embassy website it's started that having Japanese tourist visa doesn't guarantee you of entering into the country.

To be fair, this is a universal policy. A visa is a privilege not a right.

Good evening my people
I want to just make enquiry on how to apply for a tourist visa to Japan. I just wan play go for like a week do I need to visit their embassy here in Lagos Nigeria ?

How much is visa fee what documents do I need and would be nice to meet some Nigerians when I get to Tokyo. Once I get someone will start my step by step journey to getting tourist visa and see if Dem give me or not. Cheers

kolaa007:
Good evening my people
I want to just make enquiry on how to apply for a tourist visa to Japan. I just wan play go for like a week do I need to visit their embassy here in Lagos Nigeria ?

The embassy is in Abuja, not Lagos.

How much is visa fee what documents do I need and would be nice to meet some Nigerians when I get to Tokyo. Once I get someone will start my step by step journey to getting tourist visa and see if Dem give me or not. Cheers

Google "Japanese embassy in Nigeria" to find more information about obtaining a tourist visa to Japan. As for meeting Nigerians in Tokyo, as a tourist in a foreign land, why do you want to meet your country people? Anyway, there are Nigerians there and in neighbouring Saitama prefecture. Check Bumble too and other online groups.

okerekingsley90

Before you send the DM, please go through this thread to see if your questions might have been answered.

Please can someone 30years of age without Bsc enroll into Japanese language school for 2years with intent of attending vocational school in Bioagriculture after the language course. And what’s the best option for me as I want to turn thing around academically. (Applying for student visa and do I need a Japanese test before applying?)

Gerrard59:
okerekingsley90

Before you send the DM, please go through this thread to see if your questions might have been answered.

Please can someone 30years of age without Bsc enroll into Japanese language school for 2years with intent of attending vocational school in Bioagriculture after the language course. And what’s the best option for me as I want to turn thing around academically. (Applying for student visa and do I need a Japanese test before applying?)

davideluchie69:

Please can someone 30years of age without Bsc enroll into Japanese language school for 2years with intent of attending vocational school in Bioagriculture after the language course.

Getting a language school to accept a 30 year old especially without a bachelor degree would be HARD. However, not impossible. In that case, I recommend language schools in the less populated prefectures (you do your research on this). They might be willing to accept someone with that profile. Those in the major areas WOULD NOT be willing to accept such a person because there are enough applicants from the usual countries - China, Vietnam, Nepal, Bangladesh, the Philippines etc. No point accepting a 30 year old with a bachelor degree when there are hot youngsters from familiar countries.

The path to vocational school is good and a job is almost certain (I don't want to be too certain, but provided the language is known, a job is possible in those areas).

And what’s the best option for me as I want to turn thing around academically. (Applying for student visa and do I need a Japanese test before applying?)

Are you the same person with the above profile? You don't need a Japanese test before applying to graduate school (English programs). However, you need a Japanese test (N1 at least) for the Japanese programs at graduate schools. Undergraduate programs in English are not plentiful, and usually in STEM and some at private universities which are very expensive by Japanese standards.

Ok, talking about the language stuff, I just tried looking up the JPLT as someone mentioned earlier in the thread…and I noticed there doesn’t seem to be any centre for taking the exam or lesson tutorials in Nigeria? This is a bit odd to me because it seems as though we have centres for HSK (Chinese) and TOPIK (Korean) from a quick search.

So, why’s it only Japanese that isn’t available. Any alternatives? I’ve been thinking about studying Japanese from scratch next year. I found this platform (https://minato-jf.jp/Home/Back#CourseList), not sure how suitable it is.

Qinglong:
Ok, talking about the language stuff, I just tried looking up the JPLT as someone mentioned earlier in the thread…and I noticed there doesn’t seem to be any centre for taking the exam or lesson tutorials in Nigeria? This is a bit odd to me because it seems as though we have centres for HSK (Chinese) and TOPIK (Korean) from a quick search.

So, why’s it only Japanese that isn’t available. Any alternatives? I’ve been thinking about studying Japanese from scratch next year. I found this platform (https://minato-jf.jp/Home/Back#CourseList), not sure how suitable it is.

I had the same thought a few years ago. What I think is that Nigerians in Japan did not make efforts to establish a certified language school in the country. Another thought is that Japanese officials opposed it because had it been possible, more Nigerians would have been able to travel to Japan either for language studies or jobs. This opposition comes because there is a negative view of Nigerians especially in the Tokyo area for them being too arrogant, loud, aggressive and thieves, especially at bystanders and tourists. "The Nigerian gang" in Tokyo is an infamous phrase. The third thought, to the first, is that Japan fell off the radar of Nigerians in East Asia as China's economy grew. Also, the Chinese were and are more aggressive/willing to spread Chinese language learning centres (backed by the central government) than the private initiative by language schools that prep for the JLPT. Your examples of the Korean and Chinese language centres are ed by their respective governments. The second thought s my belief why there is no JLPT learning centre in Nigeria.

That said, there is a JLPT centre in Cameroon (I was stunned when I was told). So, it is no surprise a Uganadan told me how he sees many Cameroonians in the Saitama region. I checked the website and saw that it was established by Cameroonians, so my first and third thoughts are probable reasons to why there is no JLPT centre in Nigeria.

Gerrard59:

I had the same thought a few years ago. What I think is that Nigerians in Japan did not make efforts to establish a certified language school in the country. Another thought is that Japanese officials opposed it because had it been possible, more Nigerians would have been able to travel to Japan either for language studies or jobs. This opposition comes because there is a negative view of Nigerians especially in the Tokyo area for them being too arrogant, loud, aggressive and thieves, especially at bystanders and tourists. "The Nigerian gang" in Tokyo is an infamous phrase. The third thought, to the first, is that Japan fell off the radar of Nigerians in East Asia as China's economy grew. Also, the Chinese were and are more aggressive/willing to spread Chinese language learning centres (backed by the central government) than the private initiative by language schools that prep for the JLPT. Your examples of the Korean and Chinese language centres are ed by their respective governments. The second thought s my belief why there is no JLPT learning centre in Nigeria.

Nice to know.

With the growing number of anime fans and Japarians in Nigeria, I think there could be enough interest if they open centres. But as you said, there’s always the negative rep Nigerians have created for ourselves abroad. It’s too bad.

I did not see Cameroon on this list.

https://www.jlpt.jp/e/application/overseas_list.html

Oh well, I think I might go ahead with the Japanese foundation site I found.

Qinglong:

Nice to know.

With the growing number of anime fans and Japarians in Nigeria, I think there could be enough interest if they open centres. But as you said, there’s always the negative rep Nigerians have created for ourselves abroad. It’s too bad. I did not see Cameroon on this list. https://www.jlpt.jp/e/application/overseas_list.html
Oh well, I think I might go ahead with the Japanese foundation site I found.

Someone has to set up the centre and it. If recognition, not necessarily from the JLPT foundation, can be obtained, that'd be brilliant.

At the bold: while that is a popular reason for many foreigners who decided to move to Japan, I am yet to meet an African, young, mid or old, who mentioned it as a reason for moving here and eventually living. The core reasons are business, education, and love for Japan's technology. I also find it funny because I have never watched anime or anything related to Manga. The first time I read about the love for anime from a Nigerian was from Tensazangetsu20. I am yet to hear it from another Nigerian until you.

Gerrard59:

Someone has to set up the centre and it. If recognition, not necessarily from the JLPT foundation, can be obtained, that'd be brilliant.

At the bold: while that is a popular reason for many foreigners who decided to move to Japan, I am yet to meet an African, young, mid or old, who mentioned it as a reason for moving here and eventually living. The core reasons are business, education, and love for Japan's technology. I also find it funny because I have never watched anime or anything related to Manga. The first time I read about the love for anime from a Nigerian was from Tensazangetsu20. I am yet to hear it from another Nigerian until you.

Hopefully, it’ll happen sooner rather than later or never. My workplace always tells us to learn Chinese or French, but my heart says Japanese

Well, you’re technically right. K-drama seems more popular in Nigeria. But I had a virtual meeting in my workplace earlier this year, with hundreds of people in attendance. The organizer asked which country we would like to visit. A surprising number of people mentioned Japan for their anime and culture.

It’s kinda surreal. Most times I check TikTok, I see at least one Nigerian girl that loves Korean drama moving there for studies. They have relatively good grasp of the language too. Dey don carry am for head ehn

Qinglong:

Hopefully, it’ll happen sooner rather than later or never. My workplace always tells us to learn Chinese or French, but my heart says Japanese
Well, you’re technically right. K-drama seems more popular in Nigeria. But I had a virtual meeting in my workplace earlier this year, with hundreds of people in attendance. The organizer asked which country we would like to visit. A surprising number of people mentioned Japan for their anime and culture.
It’s kinda surreal. Most times I check TikTok, I see at least one Nigerian girl that loves Korean drama moving there for studies. They have relatively good grasp of the language too. Dey don carry am for head ehn

K-drama is female dominated. Even Western females love it, ditto for Asian ladies. The opposite holds for anime as more males love/follow it than females do. So, it is not surprising our women love K-drama to the extent they grasped the language and moved to Korea. One on Twitter learnt Korean and is now a translator because of her love for K-drama without being to Korea (as at the time she stated so). ion when invested with sheer hard work and determination would result in something positive.

As for languages to learn, if it is for hobby purposes, Japanese is okay. For economic reasons, Chinese is way better. French, to me, is a useless language to learn as the only wealthy Francophone country is , unlike the wealthy enclaves of Anglophones and Chinese. Spanish enclaves are even wealthier than their French counterparts. The language is that useless. Also with Chinese, learning and grasping the Kanjis in Japanese becomes very easy. Chinese have it easier to learn Japanese than any other group of people.

Gerrard59:

K-drama is female dominated. Even Western females love it, ditto for Asian ladies. The opposite holds for anime as more males love/follow it than females do. So, it is not surprising our women love K-drama to the extent they grasped the language and moved to Korea. One on Twitter learnt Korean and is now a translator because of her love for K-drama without being to Korea (as at the time she stated so). ion when invested with sheer hard work and determination would result in something positive.

As for languages to learn, if it is for hobby purposes, Japanese is okay. For economic reasons, Chinese is way better. French, to me, is a useless language to learn as the only wealthy Francophone country is , unlike the wealthy enclaves of Anglophones and Chinese. Spanish enclaves are even wealthier than their French counterparts. The language is that useless. Also with Chinese, learning and grasping the Kanjis in Japanese becomes very easy. Chinese have it easier to learn Japanese than any other group of people.

Yes, I seeing a lady like that on Twitter. Last time I saw her profile (don’t her name), she was based in Nigeria.

Back to japa prospects; if one can learn Japanese, what would you rate the chances for study or work visa, in comparison to Chinese too?

I could try Chinese too, but I’m considering the supposition that both languages are quite difficult for English speakers, therefore my personal inclination for Japanese might make it more likely to stick to the long process. That, and browsing through some Reddit threads, people seem to think it’s better to live in Japan (putting aside China’s better economic prospects).

Qinglong:

Yes, I seeing a lady like that on Twitter. Last time I saw her profile (don’t her name), she was based in Nigeria.

Back to japa prospects; if one can learn Japanese, what would you rate the chances for study or work visa, in comparison to Chinese too?

I could try Chinese too, but I’m considering the supposition that both languages are quite difficult for English speakers, therefore my personal inclination for Japanese might make it more likely to stick to the long process. That, and browsing through some Reddit threads, people seem to think it’s better to live in Japan (putting aside China’s better economic prospects).

I have never lived or visited Korea or China, but the mere fact that attaining permanent residency status is easier in Japan tells me a lot about living here compared to other nations. Also, young Koreans and Chinese come here for job-hunting, but rarely or almost no Japanese youth do the same in Korea and China. As a black African, and black in general, Japan is the best for jobs and career advancement/opportunities. The job market is too competitive for non-Chinese in China and not really open for non-Koreans in Korea. However, while the job is competitive in Japan, a foreigner who knows how to speak Japanese will have a higher chance of getting a good job here than in China and Korea even if the person speaks Chinese or Korean. This especially applies to a black person. Nevertheless, China is the best for business when/if one has the financial resources.

Go through the pages of this thread where I have explained some aspects of getting residency in Japan.
Here, I detailed my job-hunting experience: https://nairaland.unblockandhide.com/7788707/memoirs-chile/49#130041370
Here, I detailed gaining ission and all-in-all: https://nairaland.unblockandhide.com/8275359/burkina-faso-journey-no-return/6#133026287

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Qinglong:

Nice to know.

With the growing number of anime fans and Japarians in Nigeria, I think there could be enough interest if they open centres. But as you said, there’s always the negative rep Nigerians have created for ourselves abroad. It’s too bad.

I did not see Cameroon on this list.

https://www.jlpt.jp/e/application/overseas_list.html

Oh well, I think I might go ahead with the Japanese foundation site I found.

I think university of Abuja has a Japanese language centre.

Qinglong:
Ok, talking about the language stuff, I just tried looking up the JPLT as someone mentioned earlier in the thread…and I noticed there doesn’t seem to be any centre for taking the exam or lesson tutorials in Nigeria? This is a bit odd to me because it seems as though we have centres for HSK (Chinese) and TOPIK (Korean) from a quick search.

So, why’s it only Japanese that isn’t available. Any alternatives? I’ve been thinking about studying Japanese from scratch next year. I found this platform (https://minato-jf.jp/Home/Back#CourseList), not sure how suitable it is.

https://www./3121420991447121/

Gerrard59:

K-drama is female dominated. Even Western females love it, ditto for Asian ladies. The opposite holds for anime as more males love/follow it than females do. So, it is not surprising our women love K-drama to the extent they grasped the language and moved to Korea. One on Twitter learnt Korean and is now a translator because of her love for K-drama without being to Korea (as at the time she stated so). ion when invested with sheer hard work and determination would result in something positive.

As for languages to learn, if it is for hobby purposes, Japanese is okay. For economic reasons, Chinese is way better. French, to me, is a useless language to learn as the only wealthy Francophone country is , unlike the wealthy enclaves of Anglophones and Chinese. Spanish enclaves are even wealthier than their French counterparts. The language is that useless. Also with Chinese, learning and grasping the Kanjis in Japanese becomes very easy. Chinese have it easier to learn Japanese than any other group of people.

Uncle Gerrard, I do laugh tiya for your comment calling French language a useless language. And to think I used to regard it as one of the languages one should learn.

I am a fan of Cdrama (Chinese drama) and I've been picking up some Mandarin just by watching.

At least, I know

Good morning
Good night
Hello
Goodluck (Jia you, which happens to be my favourite word, especially when it's said with the fist.)
Shut up
Why are you here (another favourite word)
Long time no see.

Still laughing at your remark on French language
Phahahahahahahahaha.

Qinglong:

Yes, I seeing a lady like that on Twitter. Last time I saw her profile (don’t her name), she was based in Nigeria.

Back to japa prospects; if one can learn Japanese, what would you rate the chances for study or work visa, in comparison to Chinese too?

I could try Chinese too, but I’m considering the supposition that both languages are quite difficult for English speakers, therefore my personal inclination for Japanese might make it more likely to stick to the long process. That, and browsing through some Reddit threads, people seem to think it’s better to live in Japan (putting aside China’s better economic prospects).

I used to think learning Chinese was hard until I started watching Cdrama.

It's not hard jare.

I have watched Cdrama to pick up some regular words.

ferhyntorlah:

Uncle Gerrard, I do laugh tiya for your comment calling French language a useless language. And to think I used to regard it as one of the languages one should learn.

I am a fan of Cdrama (Chinese drama) and I've been picking up some Mandarin just by watching.
At least, I knowGood morning
Good night
Hello
Goodluck (Jia you, which happens to be my favourite word, especially when it's said with the fist.)
Shut up
Why are you here (another favourite word)
Long time no see.

Still laughing at your remark on French language
Phahahahahahahahaha.

Learning Chinese is good as China is a major economic power. I intend to learn it within a few years from now. Anything I wan learn now is strictly because of economic reasons. When I was a corp member in camp, I had a roommate who earned 250K per month as an interpreter for a Chinese businessman in the north. Young Rwandans can earn at least $500 per month doing the same activity.

Oh French! It's that useless! I realised it after I and Tensazangetsu20 analysed languages to learn as a black African and we came to the conclusion that French is too useless to learn. It's why Françophone Africans strive to learn English if they want to play on the global stage. It's a major advantage for us as Nigerians. The wealthiest African countries are Anglophones. When Namibia starts gushing out oil, that's an addition.

My mom studied French and was born in Cameroon. I used to tease her that she didn't do well in not teaching us her children the language. But looking back, I'm glad she never did.

ferhyntorlah:


I used to think learning Chinese was hard until I started watching Cdrama.

It's not hard jare.

I have watched Cdrama to pick up some regular words.

Cdrama are trash


I learnt mandarin using 90s Hong Kong films

Suicideboy:



Cdrama are trash


I learnt mandarin using 90s Hong Kong films

Well, one man's meat is another's po...son.


I like watching them.
Smiley

Gerrard59:

Learning Chinese is good as China is a major economic power. I intend to learn it within a few years from now. Anything I wan learn now is strictly because of economic reasons. When I was a corp member in camp, I had a roommate who earned 250K per month as an interpreter for a Chinese businessman in the north. Young Rwandans can earn at least $500 per month doing the same activity.

Oh French! It's that useless! I realised it after I and Tensazangetsu20 analysed languages to learn as a black African and we came to the conclusion that French is too useless to learn. It's why Françophone Africans strive to learn English if they want to play on the global stage. It's a major advantage for us as Nigerians. The wealthiest African countries are Anglophones. When Namibia starts gushing out oil, that's an addition.

My mom studied French and was born in Cameroon. I used to tease her that she didn't do well in not teaching us her children the language. But looking back, I'm glad she never did.

Thank GOD Nigeria wasn't under the French rule. It would have been terrible.

The hold the French have over their former colonies is horrible, especially the African countries. That's why they are fighting back and expelling them outta their country.

So Spanish has more economic appeal than French?

I thought French is spoken in Belgium and some European countries (eg Monaco).

About English, many non-English speaking countries are striving to ensure thier citizens are taught English right from Elementary school eg China.

Gerrard59:

Learning Chinese is good as China is a major economic power. I intend to learn it within a few years from now. Anything I wan learn now is strictly because of economic reasons. When I was a corp member in camp, I had a roommate who earned 250K per month as an interpreter for a Chinese businessman in the north. Young Rwandans can earn at least $500 per month doing the same activity.

Oh French! It's that useless! I realised it after I and Tensazangetsu20 analysed languages to learn as a black African and we came to the conclusion that French is too useless to learn. It's why Françophone Africans strive to learn English if they want to play on the global stage. It's a major advantage for us as Nigerians. The wealthiest African countries are Anglophones. When Namibia starts gushing out oil, that's an addition.

My mom studied French and was born in Cameroon. I used to tease her that she didn't do well in not teaching us her children the language. But looking back, I'm glad she never did.

actually with knowledge of french, japa to canada is very easy. The cut very low scores for ppl proficient in french

Savagethe21st:
actually with knowledge of french, japa to canada is very easy. The cut very low scores for ppl proficient in french

There is a reason I did not mention Canada in of French usefulness because it is mostly tied to ease of emigrating and most of the major economic areas in Canada have English as the dominant language. Additionally, most of the immigrants to Canada come from ex-British colonies, not .

The reality is that: there is no wealthy Francophone country other than . My basis for measuring "Francophone" is where it is the official language or spoken by at least 50-75% of the population. A situation where if one does not know how to speak the language, one's economic prospects are minimal. Only has that with French.

ferhyntorlah:


Thank GOD Nigeria wasn't under the French rule. It would have been terrible. The hold the French have over their former colonies is horrible, especially the African countries. That's why they are fighting back and expelling them outta their country. I thought French is spoken in Belgium and some European countries (eg Monaco).

It is not just the strangulation but the lack of economic prosperity across all Francophone colonies. It is that horrible. From Haiti to where else? The other wealthy place where French has weight is Switzerland, but it does not measure up with Swiss German or German itself. Just think about it for a second: other than English that is spoken worldwide, especially at immigration entry points/business events, where else would you use French other than Africa? The same Africa where the poorest of the poorest countries are Francophones? If French was so good, many countries outside Europe/North America would offer courses in it, not English when they desire international students. In my university in Japan, I wrote TOEFL to prove English proficiency just as others did. They spoke English at varying levels, but not French. This was an elite Japanese university. The professors know how to speak English, not French. Visiting researchers/professors/students speak English, not French. There was a time when my department offered a course with a top Chinese university, na English dem use. In my lab, I have witnessed a South Korean conversing in English with a Chinese.

French is useless!

I was even telling Tensa20 that thank God Ojukwu rejected the assistance of the French to help the then Biafra as we would have been much poorer than present-day Nigeria if we were colonised by . As for Belgium, that is not an economic hub for anything other than diamonds. And because the majority of diamonds are situated outside Europe - in Russia and Botswana - with refining capacities in Israel and India, I can bet you the players in the industry know how to speak English. Again, the major consumer market is the US. Monaco is too expensive and elite for most people to participate in its economic opportunities. I write this as a black African. Check again, most Francophone Africans outside Francophone Africa know how to speak English, but the same does not apply to Anglophones. Why should I learn a language that does not offer me greater or similar economic opportunities as my current language?

So Spanish has more economic appeal than French?

Yes, because the majority of South American countries speak Spanish. It is equally important in Mexico and similar to Portuguese which is spoken in Brazil - its biggest economy. Most of these countries apart from Venezuela and Bolivia have higher economic opportunities than their Francophone counterparts in Africa where the majority of Francophone countries exist. In of migration, as Savage tried to defend the use of French, ex-Spanish colonies' citizens (including famous Equatorial Guinea ) could move to Spain and naturalise within a year or two to become Spanish citizens. With that, they can obtain work permits to work across the EU. Ex-Francophone colonies don't have this privilege.

About English, many non-English speaking countries are striving to ensure thier citizens are taught English right from Elementary school eg China.

Actually, the Chinese are very pragmatic in the way they do things. They do what makes economic sense. So, they learnt English coupled with Hong Kong having a chequered British history. So many Chinese especially those who venture outside Asia and even China can speak English. It makes economic sense to know how to speak English. It does not apply to French. BTW, not only China, but Nepal, Vietnam and the likes. Trust me when I say most African Francophone countries' economic well-being will balloon should they switch or permit the use of the English language by the populace.

Lee Kuan Yew, a man I hold in high esteem, was so smart to have mandated Singaporeans to learn English, alongside their mother tongue, as he believed it was the best thing to do. With the majority of Singaporeans being Chinese, Singaporeans have so much economic mobility to harness economic opportunities by knowing how to speak the languages of the top two economies.

Gerrard59:

There is a reason I did not mention Canada in of French usefulness because it is mostly tied to ease of emigrating and most of the major economic areas in Canada have English as the dominant language. Additionally, most of the immigrants to Canada come from ex-British colonies, not .

The reality is that: there is no wealthy Francophone country other than . My basis for measuring "Francophone" is where it is the official language or spoken by at least 50-75% of the population. A situation where if one does not know how to speak the language, one's economic prospects are minimal. Only has that with French.

It is not just the strangulation but the lack of economic prosperity across all Francophone colonies. It is that horrible. From Haiti to where else? The other wealthy place where French has weight is Switzerland, but it does not measure up with Swiss German or German itself. Just think about it for a second: other than English that is spoken worldwide, especially at immigration entry points/business events, where else would you use French other than Africa? The same Africa where the poorest of the poorest countries are Francophones? If French was so good, many countries outside Europe/North America would offer courses in it, not English when they desire international students. In my university in Japan, I wrote TOEFL to prove English proficiency just as others did. They spoke English at varying levels, but not French. This was an elite Japanese university. The professors know how to speak English, not French. Visiting researchers/professors/students speak English, not French. There was a time when my department offered a course with a top Chinese university, na English dem use. In my lab, I have witnessed a South Korean conversing in English with a Chinese.

French is useless!

I was even telling Tensa20 that thank God Ojukwu rejected the assistance of the French to help the then Biafra as we would have been much poorer than present-day Nigeria if we were colonised by . As for Belgium, that is not an economic hub for anything other than diamonds. And because the majority of diamonds are situated outside Europe - in Russia and Botswana - with refining capacities in Israel and India, I can bet you the players in the industry know how to speak English. Again, the major consumer market is the US. Monaco is too expensive and elite for most people to participate in its economic opportunities. I write this as a black African. Check again, most Francophone Africans outside Francophone Africa know how to speak English, but the same does not apply to Anglophones. Why should I learn a language that does not offer me greater or similar economic opportunities as my current language?


Yes, because the majority of South American countries speak Spanish. It is equally important in Mexico and similar to Portuguese which is spoken in Brazil - its biggest economy. Most of these countries apart from Venezuela and Bolivia have higher economic opportunities than their Francophone counterparts in Africa where the majority of Francophone countries exist. In of migration, as Savage tried to defend the use of French, ex-Spanish colonies' citizens (including famous Equatorial Guinea ) could move to Spain and naturalise within a year or two to become Spanish citizens. With that, they can obtain work permits to work across the EU. Ex-Francophone colonies don't have this privilege.


Actually, the Chinese are very pragmatic in the way they do things. They do what makes economic sense. So, they learnt English coupled with Hong Kong having a chequered British history. So many Chinese especially those who venture outside Asia and even China can speak English. It makes economic sense to know how to speak English. It does not apply to French. BTW, not only China, but Nepal, Vietnam and the likes. Trust me when I say most African Francophone countries' economic well-being will balloon should they switch or permit the use of the English language by the populace.

Lee Kuan Yew, a man I hold in high esteem, was so smart to have mandated Singaporeans to learn English, alongside their mother tongue, as he believed it was the best thing to do. With the majority of Singaporeans being Chinese, Singaporeans have so much economic mobility to harness economic opportunities by knowing how to speak the languages of the top two economies.

Lee Juan Yew was a visionary. How he turned a 3rd world country with slums almost everywhere to a rated 1st world country, with the best port in the world still amazes me.

What you said that should francophone African countries make it compulsory for their citizens to learn English right from Elementary school, their economy will start booming makes sense.

I think Nigerian schools need to revise their inclusion of French into their curriculum. French makes no economic sense really. I read some years back that Grace High School, Gbagada introduced Mandarin into their curricular.

I think there's something spiritually bad with being involved in their colonies. I don't know but looking at all the francophone countries, something is wrong somewhere.

Once there is a negative pattern associated with something, I tend to think outside my physical mindset.

That's why I am worried about the deals the Nigerian president went to sign in .

While francophone countries are expelling the French, ours is welcoming them.
SMH!

ferhyntorlah:


Lee Juan Yew was a visionary. How he turned a 3rd world country with slums almost everywhere to a rated 1st world country, with the best port in the world still amazes me. What you said that should francophone African countries make it compulsory for their citizens to learn English right from Elementary school, their economy will start booming makes sense. I think Nigerian schools need to revise their inclusion of French into their curriculum. French makes no economic sense really. I read some years back that Grace High School, Gbagada introduced Mandarin into their curricular. I think there's something spiritually bad with being involved in their colonies. I don't know but looking at all the francophone countries, something is wrong somewhere. Once there is a negative pattern associated with something, I tend to think outside my physical mindset. That's why I am worried about the deals the Nigerian president went to sign in .
While francophone countries are expelling the French, ours is welcoming them.
SMH!

Ah! Lee Kuan Yew is a like a G od to me. I frequently tell Singaporeans that I cried when he died. I asked an acquaintance friend if there is a monument or stature of him in Singapore so I would bow to it when I visit there, but his response was no. Lee Kuan Yew was pragmatic to the core. I developed similar traits after reading through his history, speeches, books and policies. I adore Lee Kuan Yew. Na so elite class suppose be.

Teaching French isn't all that bad considering we are abut to Francophone countries, but it should be placed above Chinese or Spanish. These last two should take precedence. For global economic participation, knowing Chinese and Spanish (dealing with two continents and places like dem Texas) is much more important.

I cannot say about spirituality, but looking at the economic outcomes of ex-British and ex-French colonies, I side with the former. White man bad, white man bad, blacks in ex-British colonies and Anglophone countries have it way better than blacks elsewhere. Such an undeniable fact. It is so glaring to the Bahamas and Haiti, UK and , Kenya and Ivory Coast etc. As a result of the clout of blacks in Anglophone countries, blacks in Asia can rub on that to gain clout and respect.

ferhyntorlah:


Lee Juan Yew was a visionary. How he turned a 3rd world country with slums almost everywhere to a rated 1st world country, with the best port in the world still amazes me.

What you said that should francophone African countries make it compulsory for their citizens to learn English right from Elementary school, their economy will start booming makes sense.

I think Nigerian schools need to revise their inclusion of French into their curriculum. French makes no economic sense really. I read some years back that Grace High School, Gbagada introduced Mandarin into their curricular.

I think there's something spiritually bad with being involved in their colonies. I don't know but looking at all the francophone countries, something is wrong somewhere.

Once there is a negative pattern associated with something, I tend to think outside my physical mindset.

That's why I am worried about the deals the Nigerian president went to sign in .

While francophone countries are expelling the French, ours is welcoming them.
SMH!

Nigeria would have been better if Tai solarin was made president

Suicideboy:



Nigeria would have been better if Tai solarin was made president

Unfortunately, people with vision won't be allowed to near the seat of power.

SMH

Gerrard59:


Ah! Lee Kuan Yew is a like a G od to me. I frequently tell Singaporeans that I cried when he died. I asked an acquaintance friend if there is a monument or stature of him in Singapore so I would bow to it when I visit there, but his response was no. Lee Kuan Yew was pragmatic to the core. I developed similar traits after reading through his history, speeches, books and policies. I adore Lee Kuan Yew. Na so elite class suppose be.

Teaching French isn't all that bad considering we are abut to Francophone countries, but it should be placed above Chinese or Spanish. These last two should take precedence. For global economic participation, knowing Chinese and Spanish (dealing with two continents and places like dem Texas) is much more important.

I cannot say about spirituality, but looking at the economic outcomes of ex-British and ex-French colonies, I side with the former. White man bad, white man bad, blacks in ex-British colonies and Anglophone countries have it way better than blacks elsewhere. Such an undeniable fact. It is so glaring to the Bahamas and Haiti, UK and , Kenya and Ivory Coast etc. As a result of the clout of blacks in Anglophone countries, blacks in Asia can rub on that to gain clout and respect.

Wow! You are really his disciple. If only he knew the huge impact he left behind.

Take Haiti and Dominican Republic (DR) on the Hispaniola island.

One was ruled by and the other by Spain.

See where Haiti is at now compared with DR.

The difference is as clear as 7Up!

That's why I said there's something spiritually wrong with the way the French managed their colonies. There's this unpleasant thing attached to it.

Like you said, the British may be bad but their former colonies are doing better compare to the former French colonies.

With our discussion thus far, I think I will advise parents to endeavour to let their children learn Mandarin and/or Spanish.

Over 1 billion people speak Mandarin, so it makes economic sense to let one's child learn the language so as to prep them for the global stage. We should be thinking globally and not locally.