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Harmattan123(m): 1:55pm On Nov 24, 2024
Pls don't misunderstand her, she's trying to say that if people don't pay tithes, they (Becky n her family ) will not be able to enjoy the riches they are enjoying. grin grin grin
Neroclassic001: 2:06pm On Nov 24, 2024
Rev. Josiah Olufemi Akindayomi did it. He handed over the ownership of his church to someone outside his family.
Thieves especially the TEA DRINKER , the bald criminal of winners lodge and his con apprentice that lives in port harcourt that lives in salvation apartments [/quote]

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Druss(m): 2:20pm On Nov 24, 2024
chyzoo4u:


I'll pray for you and advise you search your inner heart and ask God to speak to you the way you'll understand. Once you give your life to Christ, worldly things won't matter to you and you'll have no reason to defend tithing any more rather you'll strive to live the life that Christ lived.

I hope you'll adhere to this as the true gospel and not see it as otherwise.

The life that Christ lived encourages tithing in line with the Bible's instructions. It is precisely because worldly things don't matter that I tithe. I know precisely that what I have sown has brought forth multiple fruits.
Dreamhans1: 2:24pm On Nov 24, 2024
Druss:
As for me, I choose to pay my tithe and will continue to pay my tithe.
If you have been paying to tithe to pastors without following up to ensure that the money is made accessible to the orphans, destitute, travellers, widows etc, you have committed a great sin and you have robbed God
Konquest: 2:24pm On Nov 24, 2024
LordviccoDaGuru:
Becky Enenche Sparks Outrage: 'No Tithes, Back to Square One!' - Popular Wazobia FM OAP Expensive E2DX2DP Fires Back!

See the post of her previous warning about non payment of Tithes below

https://nairaland.unblockandhide.com/8269252/becky-enenche-paying-tithes-must

Expensive didn’t hold back, calling out pastors for using tithes to enrich themselves while the poor suffer. His powerful response has everyone talking.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TOSfYTkJvyQ?si=Uco6DwZ-GLasifex

What’s your take? Are pastors going too far, or is this just misunderstood? Let’s hear your thoughts!"
Futuristica: 2:24pm On Nov 24, 2024
TimiofAbuja:
In the Bible, tithes were given to the Levites, who were the tribe responsible for the spiritual welfare of the Israelites. Here are some biblical references:

1. Levites (Numbers 18:21-24, Nehemiah 10:37-38): The Levites were instructed to receive tithes from the other tribes.

2. Priests (Leviticus 27:30-32, Hebrews 7:8-9): Priests, who were descendants of Aaron, received a portion of the tithes.

3. Temple treasury (2 Chronicles 31:5-6, Malachi 3:10): Tithes were stored in the temple treasury.

4. Widows, orphans, and strangers (Deuteronomy 14:28-29, 26:12-13): A portion of the tithes was designated for the vulnerable.

Today, many Christians interpret these biblical principles as:

1. Pastors/ministers

2. Local churches

1. Charitable organizations

2. Missionaries

, tithing is a spiritual practice that demonstrates faith and gratitude.


For me, I pay my tithe to my parent and give people who are in need around. I feel fulfilled and happy while doing that.

Tithing has no basis in Christianity.Dont forget we now are all priests with Christ as the high priest.It is fraud to expect a fellow priest to pay tithes to another priest who claims he represents the high priest even though the high priest has never asked for tithes.

That christians interprete it in a certain way doesn't make it right or the truth

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Dreamhans1: 2:29pm On Nov 24, 2024
chidiokay:



Find the right church that suites .. there is always a choice.

Besides most of these churches are deeply vested in charitable deeds, including urgent 2k, 5k to needy member, even scholarship i am aware of, these are things the so called socialites wont talk about, the idiot talking how many people as he helped or how many youths are on scholarship on him.

Someone said i cook for my husband, people rush am money nobody complain
If your pastor owns even a car and you are paying tithe to him, he's a criminal and you are a fool
Dreamhans1: 2:33pm On Nov 24, 2024
Druss:


You may be in the wrong church. I see mine walk their talk and do so.
care to give the name of your church
Futuristica: 2:35pm On Nov 24, 2024
ogascomax:
When you say Jesus didn't collect tithe that is misleading. Tithe was supposed to be brought into the house of God. I can't find anywhere that suggested that Jesus Christ was the head of any synagogue so he couldn't have received tithe. However Jesus Christ also ed the payment of tithe. In Matthew 23:23. When it comes to tithe I don't know why people continue to criticize tithe payment because I haven't seen when people were forced to do so. Who wants to pay will pay cause all the criticising is just a waste of time. Tithing came before the law, because some erroneously believed that tithing was part of the law and since the law was abolished so tithing has been abolished. Tithing was before the law and has nothing to do with the law. When you study what Paul wrote in Hebrews concerning tithing that will tell you that tithing is not just a old testament thing but also it's a new testament thing. You are failing to understand that Abraham children paid tithe and we are the children of Abraham. The priesthood continues and who you receive the message of the gospel is your priest, therefore tithe should be paid to them.

Lastly, tithing is not the only thing they preached. Through out the year they preach other messages, but if they just speak about tithing once, the next you will hear is that pastors always peach tithing.

My brother I am not sure I can comfortably teach you by typing.Maybe questions I ask will stimulate you to answer yourself
1.You claimed Jesus ed tithing in Matt 23:23.Was he addressing Christians?Was Jesus under the Law himself?Were there Christians when Jesus rebuked the Pharisees that they neglected more important things in their law and focused on least important things(tithe)

2.You said tithing was before the Law.
Did Abraham give tithes more than once?Did he give tithes as Abram or Abraham?Did he give from his own wealth?Was it money?Did he give a person that was born and will die?Did he retain the 90% to himself?
In Matt 23:23,which tithe was Jesus rebuking the Pharisees about?the one in the law or before the law?

3.Did Paul really teach about tithing in the new testament Hebrews?was the message actually tithing?

If you can answer these questions yourself,then anytime a pastor preaches tithe..u will just be laughing trust me
Dreamhans1: 2:40pm On Nov 24, 2024
Omoslim26:
Take a chill pill oga. Make una no dey carry matter for head nobody put gun for anybody head to obey and pay tithe.
Nobody force anybody to pay the tithe.
Plus no be everybody dey even pay the tithe sef.

This one no be matter at all.

Anybody wey like make him sell all him property carry am drop for Man of God se him dey pay tithe na him own palava be dat oo.
Oga if you no know, stealing by trick is a serious crime anywhere in the world
Futuristica: 2:41pm On Nov 24, 2024
chidiokay:



Did he force, put gun to your head and remove tithe .. have entered any church where you refuse to drop offering and they arrested + detain you

Life is all about church, no pastor will come to your house and drag you to church, what you donate and the value is entirely your choice i dont get the problem with our so callled over educated fellow


If a yahoo boy scams you,will you won't report to the police afterall..did he point a gun to your head?lol
Futuristica: 2:59pm On Nov 24, 2024
chidiokay:



Find the right church that suites .. there is always a choice.

Besides most of these churches are deeply vested in charitable deeds, including urgent 2k, 5k to needy member, even scholarship i am aware of, these are things the so called socialites wont talk about, the idiot talking how many people as he helped or how many youths are on scholarship on him.

Someone said i cook for my husband, people rush am money nobody complain

If churches are deeply vested to taking care of the poor,You wouldn't recognize who is the pastor from amongst thier midst.Jesus wasn't flashy,looking good while his followers looked hungry Infact Judas had to kiss him on the cheek for soldiers to identify him.
My point is,Is like saying a politician given 200m a month but uses 20m to do stomach infrastructure but uses the rest to live good in the midst of poverty
chidiokay: 3:05pm On Nov 24, 2024
Futuristica:


If churches are deeply vested to taking care of the poor,You wouldn't recognize who is the pastor from amongst thier midst.Jesus wasn't flashy,looking good while his followers looked hungry Infact Judas had to kiss him on the cheek for soldiers to identify him.
My point is,Is like saying a politician given 200m a month but uses 20m to do stomach infrastructure but uses the rest to live good in the midst of poverty


That is jesus, the question why are you so pissed a pastor is looking good or flashy ... it is a sin, where is it written as a pastor or xtain you must not look good.

Most of the pastors in the youth church i attend are professionals on various fields, they dont even take salaries ... i dont know why a sane human being will be pissed another man is looking nice

Oga work on your life and change
Futuristica: 3:08pm On Nov 24, 2024
ComeToJesus:


Una go tire.


When you are paying for ashawo, I don't question you?

When you are paying your tithes to Nigerian Breweries, International Distillery and Guinness PLC by way if buying alcoholic drinks and getting drunk, I don't query you.

When you are paying your Babalawo to make jazz for uou, its not my business.


How is it your business when I give to the church?
You guys are truly mad without knowing.

But ashawo must deliver and beer must deliver highness.
Ashawo and Nigerian breweries no de threaten customers say if them no buy their market,say Dem ko die or them no ko make heaven..

If u pay tithe as u don de pay and u still de inside poverty,na u sabi.
Them just package invisible product take sell give u sotay if u get promotion wey everybody get for office,u ko believe say na because u give one charlatan money
chidiokay: 3:10pm On Nov 24, 2024
Futuristica:


If a yahoo boy scams you,will you won't report to the police afterall..did he point a gun to your head?lol


What as yahoo boy got to do with offering or tithe in church, pastors did not propound offering, its being in existence even b4 any pastor was born, its a doctrine not a format

Mumu like you spend your hard earn money to watch celebs that are living better life than majority of you ... that one no dey pain una, small peller una dey subscribe to watch how many of you enjoy like him But
pastor buy toyota corolla una go dey cry,
Futuristica: 3:12pm On Nov 24, 2024
chidiokay:



That is jesus, the question why are you so pissed a pastor is looking good or flashy ... it is a sin, where is it written as a pastor or xtain you must not look good.

Most of the pastors in the youth church i attend are professionals on various fields, they dont even take salaries ... i dont know why a sane human being will be pissed another man is looking nice

Oga work on your life and change

Why are u pissed that politicians are driving big cars and sending their kids abroad with government money?is it thier money?

Same with pastors.Everthing they have is given by people so they collect public money from everybody and still come and oppress them.
If they lived modestly,publish church etc,do u think people will complain?
That u are a victim and do not know u are a victim does that mean I shouldn't fight for you?
chidiokay: 3:15pm On Nov 24, 2024
Dreamhans1:

If your pastor owns even a car and you are paying tithe to him, he's a criminal and you are a fool

if you use your money to stream movies,music or watch celeb you are the bigger fool

don jazzy can drive Royce rolls But naa pastor make he dey chase danfo to prove he is real ... useless generation of fools
Futuristica: 3:17pm On Nov 24, 2024
chidiokay:



What as yahoo boy got to do with offering or tithe in church, pastors did not propound offering, its being in existence even b4 any pastor was born, its a doctrine not a format

Mumu like you spend your hard earn money to watch celebs that are living better life than majority of you ... that one no dey pain una, small peller una dey subscribe to watch how many of you enjoy like him But
pastor buy toyota corolla una go dey cry,

I don't know what is wrong with a Nigerian youths brain.
Shebi u went to school abi.If tithe is not a format,has any pastor proven that tithes were paid by christians in the Bible?till today none has proven that,instead na insult Dem de dish out.
Tithe was not even a Christian practice.Ask your pastor to show you one gentile that paid tithe in the Bible..him ko just vex curse u cos e nor dey.

But I fit spend my money on celebs now,the celebs no de throw format say if I no spend my money say e nor ko better for me.
Abi,u no see the difference ?Social media sha,I fit dey respond to 14yr old I no ko know..lol
Futuristica: 3:18pm On Nov 24, 2024
chidiokay:


if you use your money to stream movies,music or watch celeb you are the bigger fool

don jazzy can drive Royce rolls But naa pastor make he dey chase danfo to prove he is real ... useless generation of fools


Don Jazzy dey threaten u say u must pay to watch am?Dem de sell entertainment..we buy am with free mind..
Wetin your pastor de sell?
SEGLIZ: 3:20pm On Nov 24, 2024
ogascomax:
When you say Jesus didn't collect tithe that is misleading. Tithe was supposed to be brought into the house of God. I can't find anywhere that suggested that Jesus Christ was the head of any synagogue so he couldn't have received tithe. However Jesus Christ also ed the payment of tithe. In Matthew 23:23. When it comes to tithe I don't know why people continue to criticize tithe payment because I haven't seen when people were forced to do so. Who wants to pay will pay cause all the criticising is just a waste of time. Tithing came before the law, because some erroneously believed that tithing was part of the law and since the law was abolished so tithing has been abolished. Tithing was before the law and has nothing to do with the law. When you study what Paul wrote in Hebrews concerning tithing that will tell you that tithing is not just a old testament thing but also it's a new testament thing. You are failing to understand that Abraham children paid tithe and we are the children of Abraham. The priesthood continues and who you receive the message of the gospel is your priest, therefore tithe should be paid to them.

Lastly, tithing is not the only thing they preached. Through out the year they preach other messages, but if they just speak about tithing once, the next you will hear is that pastors always peach tithing.
my issue isn't the tithe thing but none believers getting pained, none born again and people that don't pay or have anything to do with tithe expressing headache over tithing.

this is the only way or means the church will keep running, yet people that don't even themselves with church complains about how it is or should be run.

I look at my church, I doubt if our tithe and offering is worth a Sunday Service. we run on both petrol and gas every Sunday not including the weekly service. we stream every program (data is consumed here), without being told I know this isn't tithe and offerings working. a full Sunday Service don't give over or roughly a hundred sitting capacity, yet our building project is on going.

of the truth people that don't know or understand how God does His things should just keep quiet and stay away from His business. the church is God's business hence you need money like in other businesses.

I don't want to go into why this men travel on private jets. that is another area entirely this people don't and won't understand. they need those flying birds that is all I would say. when this people preach morals like you mentioned we don't get to hear about it, when their teachings touches the ills in our society this fools won't say a word but when it is tithing, they develop high blood pressure.

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chidiokay: 3:21pm On Nov 24, 2024
Futuristica:


Why are u pissed that politicians are driving big cars and sending their kids abroad with government money?is it thier money?

Same with pastors.Everthing they have is given by people so they collect public money from everybody and still come and oppress them.
If they lived modestly,publish church etc,do u think people will complain?
That u are a victim and do not know u are a victim does that mean I shouldn't fight for you?


I am pissed because people that even give these money to pastors/church are not online complaining naa useless generation of youths that spend there money subscribing to BBN or tiktok to watch celebs are the ones wailing

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Druss(m): 3:21pm On Nov 24, 2024
Dreamhans1:

If you have been paying to tithe to pastors without following up to ensure that the money is made accessible to the orphans, destitute, travellers, widows etc, you have committed a great sin and you have robbed God

No I haven't.
Futuristica: 3:23pm On Nov 24, 2024
chidiokay:



I am pissed because people that even give these money to pastors/church are not online complaining naa useless generation of youths that spend there money subscribing to BBN or tiktok to watch celebs are the ones wailing

But nobody say if them no watch BBN Dem ko pai or Dem no ko make money.
Dem de spend their money with free mind..no scammer put fear for thier body
Futuristica: 3:27pm On Nov 24, 2024
SEGLIZ:
my issue isn't the tithe thing but none believers getting pained, none born again and people that don't pay or have anything to do with tithe expressing headache over tithing.

this is the only way or means the church will keep running, yet people that don't even themselves with church complains about how it is or should be run.

I look at my church, I doubt if our tithe and offering is worth a Sunday Service. we run on both petrol and gas every Sunday not including the weekly service. we stream every program (data is consumed here), without being told I know this isn't tithe and offerings working. a full Sunday Service don't give over or roughly a hundred sitting capacity, yet our building project is on going.

of the truth people that don't know or understand how God does His things should just keep quiet and stay away from His business. the church is God's business hence you need money like in other businesses.

I don't want to go into why this men travel on private jets. that is another area entirely this people don't and won't understand. they need those flying birds that is all I would say. when this people preach morals like you mentioned we don't get to hear about it, when their teachings touches the ills in our society this fools won't say a word but when it is tithing, they develop high blood pressure.

Lol..Dem don finish this one brain.Them even brainwash you say ur tithe no reach anything..lol..why Dem no gather mind stop am?Dem even brainwash u say Dem must fly private jet..lol..na your money Dem use de fly.If na you de give pastor money,na u be your pastor Oga..but him use sense make am like say na him be ur Oga...chai..this life

The youths we go school suppose get sense,them dom use religion brainwash nonsense commot from their brain.

Oboy leave sentiments ,when u go church next time,ask your pastor to show you just one gentile christian for bible wey pay tithe.Ask am why una god must collect money from una hand before e bless una.ask am if that god na agbero..

Because normally the real God no suppose send out money and him message must still be spread
TimiofAbuja: 3:40pm On Nov 24, 2024
Futuristica:


Tithing has no basis in Christianity.Dont forget we now are all priests with Christ as the high priest.It is fraud to expect a fellow priest to pay tithes to another priest who claims he represents the high priest even though the high priest has never asked for tithes.

That christians interprete it in a certain way doesn't make it right or the truth


Hmmmmmm
You are doing well
I love this
TimiofAbuja: 3:40pm On Nov 24, 2024
Futuristica:


Tithing has no basis in Christianity.Dont forget we now are all priests with Christ as the high priest.It is fraud to expect a fellow priest to pay tithes to another priest who claims he represents the high priest even though the high priest has never asked for tithes.

That christians interprete it in a certain way doesn't make it right or the truth

Love this

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Bahamas95(m): 4:00pm On Nov 24, 2024
I always wonder why they focus more on tithes/seeds.

Most pastors and other religious leaders in Nigeria are corporate criminals.
Jephyard(m): 4:19pm On Nov 24, 2024
chidiokay:



Did he force, put gun to your head and remove tithe .. have entered any church where you refuse to drop offering and they arrested + detain you

Life is all about church, no pastor will come to your house and drag you to church, what you donate and the value is entirely your choice i dont get the problem with our so callled over educated fellow


Wrong. The miseducation/misinterpretation of the word of God will misled people who want to genuinely serve God. They the Pastor don’t want people to make heaven and won’t allow others that want to serve God to go to heaven because of their greed. That is why they must be stopped at all cost. By the way God does not need anything from you if he actually created the earth and heaven without the help of human.

Apart from Abraham who tithe without the law. Any other tithing from the time of Moses down to Jesus Christ means social service for a particular tribe (Levi) in ancient Israel and to the windows, Motherless, Fatherless inshort those below poverty line in Israel.

The last time I checked No Nigeria is from the tribe of Abraham or a Levite and most of our Pastors or General Overseers are not less privileged. Why should I give my money to rich people while neglecting the poor. Bro make it make sense?
chidiokay: 4:29pm On Nov 24, 2024
Jephyard:


Wrong. The miseducation/misinterpretation of the word of God will misled people who want to genuinely serve God. They the Pastor don’t want people to make heaven and won’t allow others that want to serve God to go to heaven because of their greed. That is why they must be stopped at all cost. By the way God does not need anything from you if he actually created the earth and heaven without the help of human.

Apart from Abraham who tithe without the law. Any other tithing from the time of Moses down to Jesus Christ means social service for a particular tribe (Levi) in ancient Israel and to the windows, Motherless, Fatherless inshort those below poverty line in Israel.

The last time I checked No Nigeria is from the tribe of Abraham or a Levite and most of our Pastors or General Overseers are not less privileged. Why should I give my money to rich people while neglecting the poor. Bro make it make sense?


Some of you are just unbelieveable, spewings jargons with so much effrontery

who as forced you against your will to pay tithe or offering .. who force you to attend church .. i dont even take people like you serious cos your type are very stingy in general on top #200 offering see his noise

argue with the scripture

MatrixCircle: 4:33pm On Nov 24, 2024
Is she the one known as "Yahoo Girl " ?
I have been hearing people calling her yahoo Girl.
chidiokay: 4:35pm On Nov 24, 2024
Futuristica:


But nobody say if them no watch BBN Dem ko pai or Dem no ko make money.
Dem de spend their money with free mind..no scammer put fear for thier body

Stop arguing as if you dont know you always have a chioce, even the bible as warned on the last day so many fake pastors will rise ...if you use yur leg enter fake church the blame is yours, use your sense or stay at home

there are times i have attended church program nd i no drop offering nobody cane or arrest me .. common sense can save you a lot
chidiokay: 4:39pm On Nov 24, 2024
Futuristica:


Don Jazzy dey threaten u say u must pay to watch am?Dem de sell entertainment..we buy am with free mind..
Wetin your pastor de sell?

Is pastor the only ones that have threatened you in life, if your mama threaten you with her breast make you dash her 500k today you go do am, many of you una landlord don threaten una taya 2yrs rent still owing but una go dey claim pastor is forcing money out of you .. on top smelly #200 or #100 una dey carry enter church

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