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Alabule:
Why cant PDP sanction Wike?
I genuinely want to know.

.. because they are afraid of sanctioning Wike

An election rigger talking...
It's a pity

Svoboda:



In 2022, wike and tambuwal were outgoings govs.

Did Wike contest for presidency and against Atiku in 2018?

ChiefOkporghe:


Did Wike contest for presidency and against Atiku in 2018?

He was tambuwals main backer. Tambuwal was going to make him his running mate.

AntiChristian:
When the persecution of the people of Makkah against the Muslims grew intense, Allah commanded them to migrate so that they could establish the religion of Allah in a land where they could worship Him. They wanted to kill him because of the new religion of the oneness of Allah he was calling to! It was a religious affair not governmental!

So that you can know such doesn't exist in Mecca!

How is the verse you quoted related to government and not religion? Those who do not believe in Allah are the idolators not government as you lied!

You're an ignoramus. It is your prophet who destroyed everything that had to do with Arabia before Islam that made you his ers ignorant. Mecca was ruled by Elders and nobility of the quraysh clan before Muhammad came and imposed his political Islam. Even Muhammad's uncle Abu Talib was the chief of the QUraysh tribe and one of the noblemen of Mecca. He was the one who protected Muhammad from persecution untill he died and Muhammad ran away to Medina soon after. The ignoramus thinks there was no government in Mecca Mecca was just like Sparta in Eastern Europe. It had a govt led by elders of the city and their was freedom of religion. You think governance must revolve round a central figure? what a dummy
So how did Mecca become an important trade center? Have you ever heard of any developed society without governance? You daft dude

Svoboda:


He was tambuwals main backer. Tambuwal was going to make him his running mate.

In 2018 Wike was preparing for second tenure election as Governor of Rivers State.

I can agree and understand for 2022/2023.
But you made a mistake with that 2018.

ChiefOkporghe:


In 2018 Wike was preparing for second tenure election as Governor of Rivers State.

I can agree and understand for 2022/2023.
But you made a mistake with that 2018.

No, it's not a mistake. It was an open secret and it saturated the media. Even tambuwal then was at par with wike, governor wise.

Kukutente23:

You're an ignoramus. It is your prophet who destroyed everything that had to do with Arabia before Islam that made you his ers ignorant. Mecca was ruled by Elders and nobility of the quraysh clan before Muhammad came and imposed his political Islam. Even Muhammad's uncle Abu Talib was the chief of the QUraysh tribe and one of the noblemen of Mecca. He was the one who protected Muhammad from persecution untill he died and Muhammad ran away to Medina soon after. The ignoramus thinks there was no government in Mecca Mecca was just like Sparta in Eastern Europe. It had a govt led by elders of the city and their was freedom of religion. You think governance must revolve round a central figure? what a dummy
So how did Mecca become an important trade center? Have you ever heard of any developed society without governance? You daft dude

Ezi, you are the ignorant one! What you're even discussing does not even correlate with the thread at all! How does "Atiku has no chance in PDP" lead to all these rant if not that your Holy Spirit subscription has expired? Atiku, Buhari, and many other thousands Muslims are Politicians and you call them fake Muslims with no knowledge! Who told you that partaking in Democracy turns one to a fake Muslim?

Na me even get fault dey entertain Ewu!

AntiChristian:


Ezi, you are the ignorant one! What you're even discussing does not even correlate with the thread at all! How does "Atiku has no chance in PDP" lead to all these rant if not that your Holy Spirit subscription has expired? Atiku, Buhari, and many other thousands Muslims are Politicians and you call them fake Muslims with no knowledge! Who told you that partaking in Democracy turns one to a fake Muslim?

Na me even get fault dey entertain Ewu!

Are Atiku, Buhari and other thousands of Muslim politicians the model for Islam now? You this dumb ignorant Islamist. When we call your attention to the fact that these people swore to bear true allegiance to the constitution of Nigeria as the supreme laws and not sharia, you will start bleating like a goat and tell us that they are not models of Islam.

To find a stable Islamist is like looking for the winking of the crab by the seashore

Kukutente23:


Are Atiku, Buhari and other thousands of Muslim politicians the model for Islam now? You this dumb ignorant Islamist. When we call your attention to the fact that these people swore to bear true allegiance to the constitution of Nigeria as the supreme laws and not sharia, you will start bleating like a goat and tell us that they are not models of Islam.

To find a stable Islamist is like looking for the winking of the crab by the seashore

Does that make them fake Muslims? Show us your evidence that it makes them fake Muslims?

Svoboda:



No, it's not a mistake. It was an open secret and it saturated the media. Even tambuwal then was at par with wike, governor wise.

You're saying Wike contested against Atiku for president in 2018 when he was already preparing for 2019 elections for his second tenure and when we all knew Atiku claimed he wanted to do just 1 term to complete the North's two instead of Buhari coming for second tenure?

Svoboda:


That last part of your quote is Wikes major problem. He is so predictable. He is more of an opportunist than a strategist. You need both factors. That's what the likes of PBAT and Atiku have that has kept them politically relevant for more than a quarter of a century now.

I agree with you

ChiefOkporghe:


You're saying Wike contested against Atiku for president in 2018 when he was already preparing for 2019 elections for his second tenure and when we all knew Atiku claimed he wanted to do just 1 term to complete the North's two instead of Buhari coming for second tenure?

Id have to repeat myself. It was tambuwals Vs Atiku for PDP ticket in 2018. Wike was tambuwals running mate in waiting.

AntiChristian:


Does that make them fake Muslims? Show us your evidence that it makes them fake Muslims?

They are fake Muslims because Islam teaches that only Allah is worthy of worship while the Nigerian constitution says you can worship any god you like. So to swear to uphold any other religion while you are a Muslim already negates Islam

Svoboda:


Id have to repeat myself. It was tambuwals Vs Atiku for PDP ticket in 2018. Wike was tambuwals running mate in waiting.

Lol.... So... Wike would have left something sure for something unsure?

Please post your references.

Kukutente23:
They are fake Muslims because Islam teaches that only Allah is worthy of worship while the Nigerian constitution says you can worship any god you like. So to swear to uphold any other religion while you are a Muslim already negates Islam

You are just jumping helter skelter! They didn't swear to uphold any other religion apart from Islam! That's not clear to us but you!

AntiChristian:


You are just jumping helter skelter! They didn't swear to uphold any other religion apart from Islam! That's not clear to us but you!

You are dumb. No one expects you to know. They swear to bear true allegiance and uphold the constitution of Nigeria. The constitution recognises all religion as valid. What are they doing by implication? Can the President of Nigeria refuse to swear for an incoming Chief Justice or Attorney General who is a Christian and uses the Bible? or if the official is a Sango worshipper and wishes to be sworn in by Sango, can the President refuse to swear him in?
You dumb dude

ChiefOkporghe:


Lol.... So... Wike would have left something sure for something unsure?

Please post your references.

Those were my exact thoughts, but you know, presidential party primaries come before gov primaries. There's still the back up plan the govs exploit should they lose the presidential primaries. Eg is Bala Muhammed in 2023.

You can search Google to get references. They're plenty, sir.

Svoboda:


Those were my exact thoughts, but you know, presidential party primaries come before gov primaries. There's still the back up plan the govs exploit should they lose the presidential primaries. Eg is Bala Muhammed in 2023.

You can search Google to get references. They're plenty, sir.

Bala Mohammed became Governor in 2019. How could he have been a solid Presidential aspirant in 2023?

Wike never contested in 2019. He was never an aspirant then... He is not someone to be used as a placeholder or to rally round only to drop out.

So.. Your assertion that Atiku defeated him twice is false.

ChiefOkporghe:


Bala Mohammed became Governor in 2019. How could he have been a solid Presidential aspirant in 2023?

Wike never contested in 2019. He was never an aspirant then... He is not someone to be used as a placeholder or to rally round only to drop out.

So.. Your assertion that Atiku defeated him twice is false.

I've followed this conversation from the start and my take is that , It's either you're really ignorant of all that transpired or you're just trying to twist history and quite frankly I don't understand what you stand to gain.
I'm a Rivers Man and quite active politically. Everyone knows that NEW was the backbone of the Tambuwal presidential bid. He plotted Uche Secondus to be Chairman for that purpose when it was clearly the turn of the South West to produce the National Chairman. He even moved the venue of the primaries to PH in furtherance of his objective.
It was the defeat to Atiku that made him ensure to the removal of Secondus as National Chairman as he accused him of betraying him. I really don't get why you're arguing an obvious fact that everyone knows

coins501:

I've followed this conversation from the start and my take is that , It's either you're really ignorant of all that transpired or you're just trying to twist history and quite frankly I don't understand what you stand to gain.
I'm a Rivers Man and quite active politically. Everyone knows that NEW was the backbone of the Tambuwal presidential bid. He plotted Uche Secondus to be Chairman for that purpose when it was clearly the turn of the South West to produce the National Chairman. He even moved the venue of the primaries to PH in furtherance of his objective.
It was the defeat to Atiku that made him ensure to the removal of Secondus as National Chairman as he accused him of betraying him. I really don't get why you're arguing an obvious fact that everyone knows

So, Wike lost to Atiku not because he contested against Atiku but because the person he ed lost to Atiku?

Okay.

PDP is toying with Tinubu's dangerous Mercedes that is backed with a lot of money. The early they kick him out the better.

The owner of PDP has spoken.its only in Nigeria.tha somebody will be in a party and be dictating and commanding those in another party.i blame PDP

ufotunang:
.. because they are afraid of sanctioning Wike

Really? What's the worst Wike can do? He is not even a Governor.

EmekaA125:

They can't because of his influence in the party. Wike has one leg in APC and another in PDP. He has grown much balls.

That's the fact the man is 95% APC just push him out and have peace in the party.

onatisi:
because he controls most of the party's key , he did his homework very well, and with tinubu having an appointment, wike will break PDP into two. if they sanction him, he will take them and ridicule them, Don't forget he has the judiciary, and he has openly said it that he is ing tinubu for a second term.
so if any member does not like that, such a member can leave. The objective and aim of the wike is to break pdp. the party will soon break into two before the next election. it is just a matter of time. he is going to make sure the PDP brings out a very weak candidate, already Seyi Makinde is saying he wants to contest, and Seyi belongs to Wike camp within PDP, how can Seyi defeat tinubu?

That has always been the game plan. Divide PDP and conquer. The best thing is to puch him out. How can Wike control a party that has the likes of Saraki, David Mark and the rest

Alabule:

Really? What's the worst Wike can do? He is not even a Governor.

..he will sue the PDP party to court..and the PDP will be battling court cases with wike up to 2027 when election will come up which the court case can favour wike at the end... and you know how Tinubu and wike have influence and indirect control over the court in favouring them and APC in court judgements...wike just recently start the building of houses for judges and the chief justice of Nigeria (CJN) in Abuja.. Tinubu gave GCON national awards to chief justice of Nigeria (CJN)..all this is to influence and indirectly control the court and judges for court judgement to favour them

Alabule:


That has always been the game plan. Divide PDP and conquer. The best thing is to puch him out. How can Wike control a party that has the likes of Saraki, David Mark and the rest

He gained control immediately after the 2019 elections when Atiku ran away to Dubai, now he has sponsored many senators ,reps and even governors , he has the judiciary in his pocket too and lastly he is now the fct minister which is a powerful position , he can revoke c of o of any one he doesn't like . Many PDP top politicians are still flocking to him daily for favours . There is no way he could have been bragging so much if he doesn't have within the party . During the last election he said it that the G5 is only the face of his larger circle of top politicians inside PDP and outside. That is why PDP is finding it difficult suspending or expelling him because it will destroy or break the party ,but that will eventually happen as time goes on ,PDP will still break apart before the next general elections

Alabule:

That's the fact the man is 95% APC just push him out and have peace in the party.

They know why they can't.