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TenQ: 11:08am On Nov 08, 2024
Ohyoudidnt:


No whoever wrote this and included their names for the sake of authenticity is the liar who you flock with.

Explanations like this are not sufficient for you because you insist on finding errors?

As-Sa‘di may Allaah have mercy upon him commented on the verse saying, “Allah, the Exalted, informs us that He shall fold the heavens on the Day of Judgment – vast as they are – the way a scribe folds the sheets on which he is writing; the stars will be scattered and the sun and moon will be wrapped up. {As We began the first creation, We will repeat it.} This means that Allah will resurrect the creatures after their death, out of nothing, just as He created them out of nothing.” [Tafseer As-Sa‘di, p. 531]

Ibn Katheer may Allaah have mercy upon him wrote:

“Allah, the Exalted, says (what means): {The Day when We will fold the heaven like the folding of a (written) sheet for the records.} [Quran 21:104] This will happen on the Day of Resurrection. This is the same meaning in the verse that reads: {They have not appraised Allah with true appraisal, while the earth entirely will be (within) His grip on the Day of Resurrection, and the heavens will be folded in His right hand. Exalted is He and high above what they associate with Him.} [Quran 39:67] Ibn ‘Umar reported that the Prophet, sallallaahu ‘alayhi wa sallam, said, ‘On the Day of Resurrection, Allah will grip the whole earth, and the heavens will be in His right hand.’ [Al-Bukhaari: Marfoo’ (attributed to the Prophet sallallaahu `alayhi wa sallam ( may Allaah exalt his mention ))] Ibn 'Abbaas said, ‘Allah will fold the seven heavens with all the creation in them and the seven earths with all the creation in them; He will fold all this in His right hand, and all of this will be the size of a mustard seed in His hand.’ [Ibn Abi Haatim] The verse goes on: {...like the folding of a (written) sheet for the records...} It was said that the (Arabic) word As-Sijill in the verse means a written sheet. It was also said that As-Sijill is an angel. However, the correct view, as narrated from Ibn ‘Abbaas, is that As-Sijill refers to the scroll. This was also stated by Mujaahid, Qataadah, and others. This was the view favored by Ibn Jareer because this usage is well-known in the (Arabic) language. Based on the above, the meaning is, ‘The Day We will fold the heaven the way the scroll is rolled for the writings'... and Allah knows best.” [Mukhtasar Tafseer Ibn Katheer, 2/523]
And Muslim scholars collected it as part of their religious books? Don't Muslim scholars quote these same scholars?


Sorry!
This is TRUE Islam: and I it that it is shameful
TenQ: 11:14am On Nov 08, 2024
Ohyoudidnt:


Fortunately the error you hold on to is not the Quran but an interpretation with explanation laced with the lies you like
No sir.

Too many errors:
#The sun setting in murky waters?
#Reproductive fluids coming from the rib cage
#Jews and Christians taking their Rabbis and Monks as Lord instead of Allah and the Messiah
#Maryn as sister of Aaron
#Historical Errors like the Samaritans at the time of Moses




Mohammed is the first Fabricator of Islam!
TenQ: 11:15am On Nov 08, 2024
Ohyoudidnt:


What is the difference between false evidence and a lie?

You resisted bringing it up as you too know it is a lie then thought simply bringing it up will divert attention away from the lie?

Improve your intellect.

Al-Qutubi and Ibn Masud are Christians from my village!?

The real Islam is rotten to the core
TenQ: 11:17am On Nov 08, 2024
Ohyoudidnt:




You ignored the emboldened and I answered the following for you unless you can prove my answer wrong.

Does Jesus teach you that righteousness is castigating the faith of others or looking for wrong in them?

Remove the dirt in your eye first so you can see clearly
I said NO!

What concerns me with them?

Deal with the questions before you
Ohyoudidnt: 11:37am On Nov 08, 2024
TenQ:

Al-Qutubi and Ibn Masud are Christians from my village!?

The real Islam is rotten to the core

Of course you refuse to agree with the use of names in text which may not be appropriately located to give false credibility.

Definitely there may be things said by this renown men and many not said by them. Interpreting the presence of their name with regard to some things said doesn't mean they said everything you read.

Mixing falsehood with some truth doesn't confer total truth to the text.
Ohyoudidnt: 11:38am On Nov 08, 2024
TenQ:

I said NO!

What concerns me with them?

Deal with the questions before you

The first question wasn't yes or no. Or you are inspired to answer a different question?
TenQ: 11:51am On Nov 08, 2024
Ohyoudidnt:


Of course you refuse to agree with the use of names in text which may not be appropriately located to give false credibility.

Definitely there may be things said by this renown men and many not said by them. Interpreting the presence of their name with regard to some things said doesn't mean they said everything you read.

Mixing falsehood with some truth doesn't confer total truth to the text.
It's your claim: the same you do with the Hadiths of your prophet. Any hadith that is embarrassing you will claim that it is fraud.


Ohyoudidnt:


The first question wasn't yes or no. Or you are inspired to answer a different question?
I mean No, I won't.


Please let's call it a day!
I wish you all the very best in life and your endeavours.
Ohyoudidnt: 11:57am On Nov 08, 2024
TenQ:

No sir.

Too many errors:
#The sun setting in murky waters?
#Reproductive fluids coming from the rib cage
#Jews and Christians taking their Rabbis and Monks as Lord instead of Allah and the Messiah
#Maryn as sister of Aaron
#Historical Errors like the Samaritans at the time of Moses




Mohammed is the first Fabricator of Islam!

Of course your conception of grammar is insufficient.

The phrase "the sun sets into the lake" creates a vivid image of twilight descending upon the water. Does this mean the sun set in the lake?

The verse has been explained and the human misinterpretation addressed. The process of child birth is described. Does the womb not expand towards the ribcage during pregnancy?

We need not go far as the over veneration of mortal pastors by the church clearly shows how tradition has continued through the centuries

Honorary mention of Mary due to her piety like that of the priestly lineage of Aaron

Samiri refers to a specific person among the Israelites, rather than the Samaritan community that developed later. Al-Samiri is seen as an individual who led the Israelites astray during Musa’s absence. Islamic tradition and scholarship indicate that his name might have served as a title or identifier, rather than signifying the Samaritans as an ethnic or religious group.



You can only keep recycling the same set of questions despite extremely lengthy threads addressing them. Like inquiring about how the furnace heat a particular part of an ornament. Hopefully you wouldn't find yourself in the furnace before you are convinced.
Ohyoudidnt: 12:04pm On Nov 08, 2024
TenQ:

It's your claim: the same you do with the Hadiths of your prophet. Any hadith that is embarrassing you will claim that it is fraud.


I mean No, I won't.


Please let's call it a day!
I wish you all the very best in life and your endeavours.

The hadith isn't embarrassing but the lies attached to the hadith. We Muslims don't accept pseudepigrapha as you do with your Bible.

You won't because you detest the truth. Any small thing you find what to try and smear Islam with you run with without seeking if indeed it is true.

Truth be told liars only like lies.
TenQ: 12:17pm On Nov 08, 2024
Ohyoudidnt:


Of course your conception of grammar is insufficient.

The phrase "the sun sets into the lake" creates a vivid image of twilight descending upon the water. Does this mean the sun set in the lake?

The verse has been explained and the human misinterpretation addressed. The process of child birth is described. Does the womb not expand towards the ribcage during pregnancy?

We need not go far as the over veneration of mortal pastors by the church clearly shows how tradition has continued through the centuries

Honorary mention of Mary due to her piety like that of the priestly lineage of Aaron

Samiri refers to a specific person among the Israelites, rather than the Samaritan community that developed later. Al-Samiri is seen as an individual who led the Israelites astray during Musa’s absence. Islamic tradition and scholarship indicate that his name might have served as a title or identifier, rather than signifying the Samaritans as an ethnic or religious group.



You can only keep recycling the same set of questions despite extremely lengthy threads addressing them. Like inquiring about how the furnace heat a particular part of an ornament. Hopefully you wouldn't find yourself in the furnace before you are convinced.
Islamic clerics keep manufacturing new solutions to their dilemma!
It's okay!
Ohyoudidnt:


The hadith isn't embarrassing but the lies d by Muslim scholars for Muslimsattached to the hadith. We Muslims don't accept pseudepigrapha as you do with your Bible.

You won't because you detest the truth. Any small thing you find what to try and smear Islam with you run with without seeking if indeed it is true.

Truth be told liars only like lies.
Too bad!
The lies were told by Muslim scholars for Muslims (if indeed it's a lie)

But why would Muslim scholars tell such lies?

Ohyoudidnt:


Of course your conception of grammar is insufficient.

The phrase "the sun sets into the lake" creates a vivid image of twilight descending upon the water. Does this mean the sun set in the lake?

The verse has been explained and the human misinterpretation addressed. The process of child birth is described. Does the womb not expand towards the ribcage during pregnancy?

We need not go far as the over veneration of mortal pastors by the church clearly shows how tradition has continued through the centuries

Honorary mention of Mary due to her piety like that of the priestly lineage of Aaron

Samiri refers to a specific person among the Israelites, rather than the Samaritan community that developed later. Al-Samiri is seen as an individual who led the Israelites astray during Musa’s absence. Islamic tradition and scholarship indicate that his name might have served as a title or identifier, rather than signifying the Samaritans as an ethnic or religious group.



You can only keep recycling the same set of questions despite extremely lengthy threads addressing them. Like inquiring about how the furnace heat a particular part of an ornament. Hopefully you wouldn't find yourself in the furnace before you are convinced.
As-Samari means "the Samaritan" even many English translation translate it as such.
If Allah is the best speaker of Arabic, he shouldn't have problems communicating the Qur'an without errors and ambiguities


Please let's call it a day!
I wish you all the very best in life and your endeavours.
Ohyoudidnt: 12:24pm On Nov 08, 2024
TenQ:

Islamic clerics keep manufacturing new solutions to their dilemma!
It's okay!

Too bad!
The lies were told by Muslim scholars for Muslims (if indeed it's a lie)

But why would Muslim scholars tell such lies?


As-Samari means "the Samaritan" even many English translation translate it as such.
If Allah is the best speaker of Arabic, he shouldn't have problems communicating the Qur'an without errors and ambiguities


Please let's call it a day!
I wish you all the very best in life and your endeavours.

Like I said liars only like lies. All you have written attests to the fact that you rely on man's interpretation of what Allah says and not what Allah clearly says.

Small wonder the quarrels over pastors interpreting aspects of the Bible and Christianity differently.

Fortunately the Quran identified a person not a group or tribe that misled the Israelites
TenQ: 12:30pm On Nov 08, 2024
Ohyoudidnt:


Like I said liars only like lies. All you have written attests to the fact that you rely on man's interpretation of what Allah says and not what Allah clearly says.

Small wonder the quarrels over pastors interpreting aspects of the Bible and Christianity differently.

Fortunately the Quran identified a person not a group or tribe that misled the Israelites
I quoted your sources, how does that become a lie?
Except you are itting that Islamic scholars are chronic LIARS

As-Samari simply means the Samaritan.

Unfortunately, Samaria did not exist till approximately 1000 years after Moses.

Please let's call it a day sir!
Ohyoudidnt: 3:13pm On Nov 08, 2024
TenQ:

I quoted your sources, how does that become a lie?
Except you are itting that Islamic scholars are chronic LIARS

As-Samari simply means the Samaritan.

Unfortunately, Samaria did not exist till approximately 1000 years after Moses.

Please let's call it a day sir!

Too bad for the one that quotes sources that are not verified. Is it for the sake of reference regardless of whether what is referenced is true? Please there are records of statements made by liars and absolutely honest people why pick that of the liar?
Ohyoudidnt: 3:24pm On Nov 08, 2024
TenQ:

I quoted your sources, how does that become a lie?
Except you are itting that Islamic scholars are chronic LIARS

As-Samari simply means the Samaritan.

Unfortunately, Samaria did not exist till approximately 1000 years after Moses.

Please let's call it a day sir!

The figure of As-Samari in Surah Taha is often misunderstood as a reference to a Samaritan, but it is more accurately seen as an individual who played a crucial role in the incident involving the golden calf. As-Samari, as described in the Quran, led the Israelites astray during Moses' absence on Mount Sinai (Ijaz Ahmad, 2024). His actions serve as a significant test of faith for the Israelites and highlight the consequences of straying from divine commandments. The narrative emphasizes not just an ethnic identity but also the moral and spiritual implications tied to his transgressions.

Critics argue that calling him "the Samaritan" is anachronistic since Samaria did not exist at that time. This claim has been countered by recognizing that "As-Samari" can be understood beyond geographical , focusing instead on his rebellious nature and actions against Moses' leadership. The Quranic does not strictly follow Biblical narratives; thus, understanding As-Samari requires a contextual interpretation rather than a rigid historical alignment.

The punishment imposed on As-Samari further illustrates his role and its implications for faithfulness among believers. Verses 97-104 recount how he was condemned to isolation and faced severe consequences for leading others into sin (Tafseer Taha: Ayat 97-104 | In the Pursuit of Writing, 2013). This punishment reflects deeper theological themes regarding ability and divine justice within Islamic teachings. Therefore, interpreting As-Samari solely through an ethnic lens overlooks the broader moral lessons embedded in this narrative.
TenQ: 3:57pm On Nov 08, 2024
Ohyoudidnt:


The figure of As-Samari in Surah Taha is often misunderstood as a reference to a Samaritan, but it is more accurately seen as an individual who played a crucial role in the incident involving the golden calf. As-Samari, as described in the Quran, led the Israelites astray during Moses' absence on Mount Sinai (Ijaz Ahmad, 2024). His actions serve as a significant test of faith for the Israelites and highlight the consequences of straying from divine commandments. The narrative emphasizes not just an ethnic identity but also the moral and spiritual implications tied to his transgressions.

Critics argue that calling him "the Samaritan" is anachronistic since Samaria did not exist at that time. This claim has been countered by recognizing that "As-Samari" can be understood beyond geographical , focusing instead on his rebellious nature and actions against Moses' leadership. The Quranic does not strictly follow Biblical narratives; thus, understanding As-Samari requires a contextual interpretation rather than a rigid historical alignment.

The punishment imposed on As-Samari further illustrates his role and its implications for faithfulness among believers. Verses 97-104 recount how he was condemned to isolation and faced severe consequences for leading others into sin (Tafseer Taha: Ayat 97-104 | In the Pursuit of Writing, 2013). This punishment reflects deeper theological themes regarding ability and divine justice within Islamic teachings. Therefore, interpreting As-Samari solely through an ethnic lens overlooks the broader moral lessons embedded in this narrative.
The problem was that Mohammed the illiterate prophet was not aware that the Samaritans did not exist at the time. Unfortunately,
Several English translation disagree with your explanation

Qur'an 20:85-88 and Qur'an 20:95
Here are a few notable English translations that use "the Samaritan" for As-Samari in the Qur'an

1. Sahih International: "the Samaritan"
2. Pickthall: "the Samaritan"
3. Yusuf Ali: "the Samaritan"
4. Abdel Haleem: "the Samaritan"
5. Muhammad Asad: "the Samaritan"

Are they unknowledgeable in Islam?

Tafsir Qur'an 20.85 Jalal - Al-Jalalayn
But those he supposed [to be following him] had remained behind, for He, exalted be He, said, ‘Indeed We tried your people after you, that is, after your departure from them, and the Samaritan led them astray’, so they took to worshipping the [golden] calf.

https://quranx.com/tafsirs/20.85



You can see how you Muslims are struggling to cover up for the mistakes of Allah in your Qur'an.



The Word As-Samari is akin to saying words like "the Nigerian", or "the American" or "the Ghanian". The problem is that we know only one Samaria at the time of Mohammed and they are called As-Samari. Perhaps Allah wasn't aware that this verse will disturb you Muslims
TenQ: 3:59pm On Nov 08, 2024
Ohyoudidnt:


Too bad for the one that quotes sources that are not verified. Is it for the sake of reference regardless of whether what is referenced is true? Please there are records of statements made by liars and absolutely honest people why pick that of the liar?
Are you saying that Al-Qutubi and Ibn Masud are both liars?

It seems anything you don't like about Islam you reject.



Please , let's end this chat for now.
Have a nice day
Ohyoudidnt: 4:12pm On Nov 08, 2024
TenQ:

Are you saying that Al-Qutubi and Ibn Masud are both liars?

It seems anything you don't like about Islam you reject.



Please , let's end this chat for now.
Have a nice day

I told you that these persons were mixed into the text to give it a false authenticity.
The statement attributed to Sufyan Ath-Thawri, which claims that "God Almighty sends water from beneath the Throne like the semen of men, and from it their flesh and bodies grow as the earth grows soil," does not seem to be a verified or widely recognized hadith in classical sources such as Sahih al-Bukhari or other major hadith collections. Additionally, it does not appear to align with mainstream Islamic eschatology or discussions on bodily resurrection, which are mainly based on clear Quranic verses and authentic hadiths.

Now reread your false exegesis and point that Qurtubi and Ibn Masood actually made the water from the throne like semen statement.
Ohyoudidnt: 4:22pm On Nov 08, 2024
TenQ:

The problem was that Mohammed the illiterate prophet was not aware that the Samaritans did not exist at the time. Unfortunately,
Several English translation disagree with your explanation

Qur'an 20:85-88 and Qur'an 20:95
Here are a few notable English translations that use "the Samaritan" for As-Samari in the Qur'an

1. Sahih International: "the Samaritan"
2. Pickthall: "the Samaritan"
3. Yusuf Ali: "the Samaritan"
4. Abdel Haleem: "the Samaritan"
5. Muhammad Asad: "the Samaritan"

Are they unknowledgeable in Islam?

Tafsir Qur'an 20.85 Jalal - Al-Jalalayn
But those he supposed [to be following him] had remained behind, for He, exalted be He, said, ‘Indeed We tried your people after you, that is, after your departure from them, and the Samaritan led them astray’, so they took to worshipping the [golden] calf.

https://quranx.com/tafsirs/20.85



You can see how you Muslims are struggling to cover up for the mistakes of Allah in your Qur'an.



The Word As-Samari is akin to saying words like "the Nigerian", or "the American" or "the Ghanian". The problem is that we know only one Samaria at the time of Mohammed and they are called As-Samari. Perhaps Allah wasn't aware that this verse will disturb you Muslims

You are the one struggling to hold on to your lies when shown the truth.

While translators such as Sahih International, Pickthall, and Yusuf Ali have referred to "Samaritan" based on traditional interpretations, this identification is not conclusive. Both classical and modern scholars acknowledge that as-Samiri might be an individual unrelated to the later Samaritan sect.

Ibn Kathir and al-Tabari viewed as-Samiri as a distinct figure in the narrative of the golden calf incident, without making a direct connection to the later Samaritan sect.

They both identity him as a misguided individual
TenQ: 4:26pm On Nov 08, 2024
Ohyoudidnt:


I told you that these persons were mixed into the text to give it a false authenticity.
The statement attributed to Sufyan Ath-Thawri, which claims that "God Almighty sends water from beneath the Throne like the semen of men, and from it their flesh and bodies grow as the earth grows soil," does not seem to be a verified or widely recognized hadith in classical sources such as Sahih al-Bukhari or other major hadith collections. Additionally, it does not appear to align with mainstream Islamic eschatology or discussions on bodily resurrection, which are mainly based on clear Quranic verses and authentic hadiths.

Now reread your false exegesis and point that Qurtubi and Ibn Masood actually made the water from the throne like semen statement.
Meaning that many Muslim scholars are liars!
TenQ: 4:28pm On Nov 08, 2024
Ohyoudidnt:


You are the one struggling to hold on to your lies when shown the truth.

While translators such as Sahih International, Pickthall, and Yusuf Ali have referred to "Samaritan" based on traditional interpretations, this identification is not conclusive. Both classical and modern scholars acknowledge that as-Samiri might be an individual unrelated to the later Samaritan sect.

Ibn Kathir and al-Tabari viewed as-Samiri as a distinct figure in the narrative of the golden calf incident, without making a direct connection to the later Samaritan sect.

They both identity him as a misguided individual
The truth is easily verified with questions.

From which city in history does the As-Samari come from at the time of Moses?
Ohyoudidnt: 7:36pm On Nov 08, 2024
TenQ:

The truth is easily verified with questions.

From which city in history does the As-Samari come from at the time of Moses?

While the Israelites were in their exodus from Egypt they were they differentiated into cities of origin other than the tribes they descended from?


Relook at the translations you presented as I have

Allah responded, 'We have indeed tested your people in your absence, and the Samiri has led them astray.'
- Mustafa Khattab
He said: Lo! We have tried thy folk in thine absence, and As-Samiri hath misled them.
- Marmaduke Pickthall
(Allah) said: "We have tested thy people in thy absence: the Samiri has led them astray."
- Abdullah Yusuf Ali

It appears you give Picktall and Yusuf Ali your own translation even if Asad is in agreement with what you stated
Ohyoudidnt: 7:53pm On Nov 08, 2024
Ohyoudidnt:


I told you that these persons were mixed into the text to give it a false authenticity.
The statement attributed to Sufyan Ath-Thawri, which claims that "God Almighty sends water from beneath the Throne like the semen of men, and from it their flesh and bodies grow as the earth grows soil," does not seem to be a verified or widely recognized hadith in classical sources such as Sahih al-Bukhari or other major hadith collections. Additionally, it does not appear to align with mainstream Islamic eschatology or discussions on bodily resurrection, which are mainly based on clear Quranic verses and authentic hadiths.

Now reread your false exegesis and point that Qurtubi and Ibn Masood actually made the water from the throne like semen statement.

Even What is attributed to Sufyan Ath-Thawri is false. What is available of him on the internet is incorrect he contributed to Tafsir but not this semen lie.


The internet really can be a very dangerous place despite the ease it presents.
Ohyoudidnt: 7:58pm On Nov 08, 2024
Did you attempt to edit my writing?

TenQ: 8:06pm On Nov 08, 2024
Ohyoudidnt:


While the Israelites were in their exodus from Egypt they were they differentiated into cities of origin other than the tribes they descended from?


Relook at the translations you presented as I have

Allah responded, 'We have indeed tested your people in your absence, and the Samiri has led them astray.'
- Mustafa Khattab
He said: Lo! We have tried thy folk in thine absence, and As-Samiri hath misled them.
- Marmaduke Pickthall
(Allah) said: "We have tested thy people in thy absence: the Samiri has led them astray."
- Abdullah Yusuf Ali

It appears you give Picktall and Yusuf Ali your own translation even if Asad is in agreement with what you stated
I have asked you a historical question and not a hypothetical question.

Where is the City?
From which city in history does the As-Samari come from at the time of Moses?
Ohyoudidnt: 8:28pm On Nov 08, 2024
TenQ:

I have asked you a historical question and not a hypothetical question.

Where is the City?
From which city in history does the As-Samari come from at the time of Moses?

As the Israelites journeyed from Egypt where were they all coming from?

Of what use is your questioning when it is established that amongst the journeying Israelites someone referred to as As-samiri misled them into worshipping a molded calf.

As Samiri could be a personal name or nickname instead of an ethnic identity.

A character linked to specific mystical or esoteric practices (which could clarify his expertise in shaping the calf).

Or even a title rather than a name, suggesting a trait or role within the narrative.

I am aware of what you are trying to do 🤯
TenQ: 9:59pm On Nov 08, 2024
Ohyoudidnt:


As the Israelites journeyed from Egypt where were they all coming from?

Of what use is your questioning when it is established that amongst the journeying Israelites someone referred to as As-samiri misled them into worshipping a molded calf.

As Samiri could be a personal name or nickname instead of an ethnic identity.

A character linked to specific mystical or esoteric practices (which could clarify his expertise in shaping the calf).

Or even a title rather than a name, suggesting a trait or role within the narrative.

I am aware of what you are trying to do 🤯
You said:
As Samiri could be a personal name or nickname instead of an ethnic identity.

This is a speculation and NOT a historical fact

The truth is that you have no evidence to reject that it is the Samaritan!

Allah should know better than this o!
aribisala0(m): 2:21pm On Nov 30, 2024
TenQ:
Yoruba Muslims beg for a Truce with Traditional Yoruba Religionists

For many who had not been aware, there had been a brutal reprisal attack by Yoruba Traditional Worshippers (Isese) against the Yoruba Muslims and the Muslims have caved in. The Isese worshippers on social media especially YouTube who daily gave insults to both Mohammed and Allah were unrestrained as daily these traditional worshippers brought facts upon facts from the Qur'an and Hadiths to discredit Mohammed, Islam and Allah.

Unfortunately, for the Yoruba Muslims, most of the Isese worshippers were former Muslims and some could even speak Arabic. Islam was humiliated as most of the Islamic clerics had no answers for the Isese worshippers claims backed up with incontrovertible evidences. Many Muslims were hearing for the first time some of what I've been saying here on Nairaland.

In the video below, one of the Elders of the Isese worshippers is begging their to soft-pedal on their exposure of Islam as the Muslims have sent some emissaries to seek for a Truce.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_QKN__Vgg5o?si=RjrBRgOefRTG01qv

It seems that the only only language Islam understand is violence by a superior force: like Israel dealing with Hamas and Hezbollah with poundings of supremacy.

The Origin of this conflict was in Ilorin early last year when the Council of Ulama (Islamic clerics) in Kwara State forcefully prevented those planning to celebrate traditional religion or Ifa festival in Ilorin, the state capital, to retrace their steps. The council warned that Ifa festival, under any guise, would not be allowed in any part of Ilorin Emirate, comprising Asa, Moro, Ilorin East, Ilorin West and Ilorin South local government areas.

https://punchng.com/isese-police-take-sides-as-ilorin-traditionalists-battle-for-survival/

https://www.thecable.ng/ilorin-isese-and-the-tyranny-of-the-majority/

Since the Yoruba Muslims used a combination of Government enforcement powers and brute force with intimidation to harass them, the Isese worshippers went on their counter attack on social media.

It was so bad that it even became an intra-Islamic war between Islamic clerics cautioning each other on the way their fellow clerics have been attacking the Isese worshippers resulting in total humiliation for them

The Yoruba Muslims have now called for a Truce with the Isese Worshippers (and they even included Christians in this meeting whose date is yet to be fixed) as many secrets that were not supposed to he heard about Islam are being aired in public. Many Yoruba Muslims have abandoned their faith in Islam.

The YouTube handle of the Isese worshippers is Tani Olohun for those who can speak some Yoruba

Some of their Topics were:
-Mohammed stole a Red Panty (Underwear)
-Mohammed is a Pedophile
-Will All Muslims enter Hell Fire
-God is different from Allah
-Islamic religion require no brain
-Mohammed had sex with a Corpse
-Islam, the Religion of Lies


In the video below, an Islamic Cleric claims to become a Yoruba Traditional Worshipper


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cM-8TgQDVMQ?si=GIhBJL4yShzudK9e



Questions:
1. Do you Imam Alhaji AkewugbaGold for calling for a Truce with the Isese Worshippers?
2. Do you think that the Internet has been a curse for Islam as damning evidences abound that discredit islamic doctrines?
3. Why is it that Muslims only respect superior violence?
4. Are Muslims afraid of the Truth?



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Muhamid thief red pant? shocked shocked shocked

Why red?
aribisala0(m): 2:25pm On Nov 30, 2024
TenQ:

The problem was that Mohammed the illiterate prophet was not aware that the Samaritans did not exist at the time. Unfortunately,
Several English translation disagree with your explanation

Qur'an 20:85-88 and Qur'an 20:95
Here are a few notable English translations that use "the Samaritan" for As-Samari in the Qur'an

1. Sahih International: "the Samaritan"
2. Pickthall: "the Samaritan"
3. Yusuf Ali: "the Samaritan"
4. Abdel Haleem: "the Samaritan"
5. Muhammad Asad: "the Samaritan"

Are they unknowledgeable in Islam?

Tafsir Qur'an 20.85 Jalal - Al-Jalalayn
But those he supposed [to be following him] had remained behind, for He, exalted be He, said, ‘Indeed We tried your people after you, that is, after your departure from them, and the Samaritan led them astray’, so they took to worshipping the [golden] calf.

https://quranx.com/tafsirs/20.85



You can see how you Muslims are struggling to cover up for the mistakes of Allah in your Qur'an.



The Word As-Samari is akin to saying words like "the Nigerian", or "the American" or "the Ghanian". The problem is that we know only one Samaria at the time of Mohammed and they are called As-Samari. Perhaps Allah wasn't aware that this verse will disturb you Muslims

It is a worry that Muhamid who stole RED PANTS and slept with children is considered a messenger of Allah
aribisala0(m): 2:51pm On Nov 30, 2024
TenQ:

Muslims only understand the language of force with violence. See how Idol worshippers dealt with them.

The only other thing Islam fear other than force is exposure by Truth. They don't want to lose (captives)

As Christians, we will use only the language of force of the Truth with them.

Who is idol worshippers

You must be a lunatic

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aribisala0(m): 2:56pm On Nov 30, 2024
Expanse2020:

Your father village 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Are you crying because you was lost search for real God but accepting a man as a God ...
Paul taught you divert you from real God to man made Jesus Izus of Rome
Did muhammad fucck a 9 year old and did he steal a red pant?. Why
What is special about red panties?
aribisala0(m): 5:15pm On Nov 30, 2024
Expanse2020:

This is Quran answering
Say, ˹O believers,˺ “We believe in Allah and what has been revealed to us; and what was revealed to Abraham, Ishmael, Isaac, Jacob, and his descendants; and what was given to Moses, Jesus, and other prophets from their Lord. We make no distinction between any of them. And to Allah we all submit.”

Say: "We believe in Allah, and in what has been revealed to us and what was revealed to Abraham, Isma'il, Isaac, Jacob, and the Tribes, and in (the Books) given to Moses, Jesus, and the prophets, from their Lord: We make no distinction between one and another among them, and to Allah do we bow our will (in Islam)."
Note the verses are for the righteous and submitters among them and does not included those who worship Baal among them..óò
With don't mixed garri and sand together in Islam...
Allah Akbar kabbir

So in Islam there is only fact, evidence of what we are doing..

In Christianity you just have to upgrade the idoletary and called it Christianity
Be it your worship
Be it your Christmas and new year
Be it your drumming singing and service generally it belong to idolatry people you just had to upgrade them...
Wasted effort is Christianity

Christianity is based on Judaism and its scriptures Of course both are man made
Islam is equally man made based on Arabic inferiority complex and a need to compete with and supplant Judaism

The moment you can debunk Judaism or Christianity Islam looks very stupid

None of those religions has any relevance to black Africans whose brains are working
aribisala0(m): 7:00pm On Nov 30, 2024
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Allah is the one, supreme, and all-encoming deity, different from any idol or tribal god. Even in pre-Islamic Arabia, Allah was recognized as the "God above gods" and recognized as the Creator. However, the pure monotheism introduced by Islam represented a significant change from the pre-Islamic practices, where people would associate partners with Allah by worshiping idols and lesser deities.

May Jesus deliver you from the deaf and dumb spirit that bewitches you

Mark 9:25
And when Jesus saw that a multitude came running together, he rebuked the unclean spirit, saying unto him, Thou dumb and deaf spirit, I command thee, come out of him, and enter no more into him

Allah is sufficient for me and all my trust is in him.

Allah simply means The Deity or idol

Muhammad did not introduce that to Arabs in Mecca
They have been worshiping idols in Mecca including the stone that you go there to lick
Black Africans are quite stupid with a slave mentality

You don't need islam or Christianity to guide you

By the way explain Sura 14 .4

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