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kristien4(m): 11:26pm On Oct 24, 2024
ask4bk:


Scientifically, it is IMPOSSIBLE for solar to produce 100% of rated power due to power loss via heat, distance and other factors. Not ever possible.
That you are claiming over 100% power generation shows something is wrong or fishy in your marketing. Either that or your (never seen) solar charger is giving false figures (many weak brands make their device to do that).
Wetin u smoke? Marketing, like i work for growatt or jinko, these are big brands, you dont need to lie or make false claims to sell a jinko or growatt. Thats how u make unguarded statements which mirrors the kind of person you are. You think everyone is a liar like you. The only fishy thing here is your brain.

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GabrielYulaw(m): 12:11am On Oct 25, 2024
kristien4:
Wetin u smoke? Marketing, like i work for growatt or jinko, these are big brands, you dont need to lie or make false claims to sell a jinko or growatt. Thats how u make unguarded statements which mirrors the kind of person you are. You think everyone is a liar like you. The only fishy thing here is your brain.

Take it easy, boss mi. We are all here to learn.
adrusa: 4:14am On Oct 25, 2024
HeavenlyBang:


Space? Cables?

Space is possibly the only thing that will make me think of "more efficient" s. But, I don't think that the markup on the so-called "top tier" is worth the presumed increase in yield. I will like to see a more scientific comparison of the s beyond the instantaneous yields of above 100%. I will want to see more long-term performance comparison.

One major problem with measuring efficiency in our setup is that what we get is mostly dependent on our needs, not the efficiency of our s. On many good days, my batteries are full by mid-day or slightly after. So, my yields can never be a good measure of the performance of my s.

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FEGEITOK: 4:20am On Oct 25, 2024
adrusa:


The argument between top tier solar s and the lower tier ones is not settled. Some people are of the opinion that what you get per naira is what is most important. If a 300W low tier gives me only 70% yield, but costs me only 50% of what I will pay for a top tier 300W , isn't the maths already leveling up?

Good to know.

What hasn't been settled is the longevity of the lower tier s.

I'd stick to the top tier

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adrusa: 4:24am On Oct 25, 2024
Ferdiwar:
Based on personal experience, I'll say yes, inverter ACs are worth the extra bucks.

I have 3 inverter ACs (2x TCL 1HP and 1x Haier Thermocool 1HP) which are always on the lowest inverter model and consumes max 1.2kw/h.

When not on inverter mode the figure is over 2.4kw/h.


What I have heard is that the inverter ACs are not as good in of cooling.

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adrusa: 4:25am On Oct 25, 2024
FEGEITOK:


Good to know.

What hasn't been settled is the longevity of the lower tier s.

I'd stick to the top tier


Any available statistics for review? In of longevity?
TheCreatorVerse: 4:44am On Oct 25, 2024
sheDD(m): 4:58am On Oct 25, 2024
justcallmenuel:
STUDENT PACKAGE available too!!

1pcs of 220Ah super speed battery
1pcs of 1kva 12v inverter
1pcs of 50A pwm controller
2pcs of 200w Sunfield solar s.

#500,000.
Call/whatsapp me on 08168986461
how much be the super speed battery
mctfopt: 5:45am On Oct 25, 2024
HeavenlyBang:


True. For example, my freezer surges to 850w for a few seconds before dropping.
Easy solution to starting surge is to use two different outlets and timers and just set them about ten minutes apart.

For example, my freezer surges to

Is the freezer the inverter type?
mctfopt: 5:48am On Oct 25, 2024
adrusa:


What I have heard is that the inverter ACs are not as good in of cooling.


Cooling is not an issue for mine though. Make is LG. That AC practically turns the room into a dry ice cold room.

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mctfopt: 6:08am On Oct 25, 2024
TheCreatorVerse:
I need review on this Solar

Type = 200W Mono
Price = ₦53,000
Brand = Sun Field

My questions are:
1. Is this genuinely mono?
2. Is the price reasonable?
3. How reliable are Sun Field products?
4. Overall, is this a good-quality Solar ?


Not too bad according to the price. Not tier 1 though. Good for someone starting off the renewable journey that is buying materials that won't break the bank. I've seen loads of Sun Field products in the Nigerian market. But Sun Field is not a known company outside of Nigeria, I suspect an importer just slapped that name on products they customised/bought in China for sell in Nigeria.

That said, I can't say anything about the reliability as this name brand is only seen in Nigeria. Haven't used any of their products though.

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AmakaRuby: 6:42am On Oct 25, 2024
Good day, installer requested 10mm DC cable wire. Some one I have been chatting with here before now recommend 4mm or 6mm but this installer says I should get 10mm. Help me check this pls, I have 4.2kva welion Inverter & 3 of 475w
Distance of 20m for s to DB
1 DC cable 10mm ×10yards=#7,800×10=#78,000
2 AC cable (2) coil =2.5mm cole-mester wire=#49,000×2=#98,000
3 Bolt and nuts 🔩 =10 pieces =#3000
4 Change over. 100A =#7,000
5 Trunking pipe and concrete nail =#3000
6 Cable locks=#1,500
7 Breaker =#13,000
8 Surge protector DC =#22,000
9 Breakers box /9 ways.=4,500
ask4bk(m): 6:46am On Oct 25, 2024
kristien4:
Wetin u smoke? Marketing, like i work for growatt or jinko, these are big brands, you dont need to lie or make false claims to sell a jinko or growatt. Thats how u make unguarded statements which mirrors the kind of person you are. You think everyone is a liar like you. The only fishy thing here is your brain.

You see! I countered your topic without touching your person, you replied, went off the topic and came straight to attack my person, and to top it all, you claim being the better person after just doing this.

Typical Nigerian

You'll argue with a Nigeria that "I think Ronaldo is better than Messi because of his effectiveness at goal". Instead of the Nigerian to come up with a counter argument on why Messi is better, staying on the topic, he'll rather say "your brain is rotten, that's why you think so. You de mad, and your family is hungry, that's why you think Ronaldo is better".

I gave a scientific opinion, you should come up with counter scientific evidence against me like some did. Instead you prefer to insult my person.

Sannu da aiki 🙏🏾

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ask4bk(m): 6:52am On Oct 25, 2024
AmakaRuby:
Good day, installer requested 10mm DC cable wire. Some one I have been chatting with here before now recommend 4mm or 6mm but this installer says I should get 10mm. Help me check this pls, I have 4.2kva welion Inverter & 3 of 475w
Distance of 20m for s to DB
1 DC cable 10mm ×10yards=#7,800×10=#78,000
2 AC cable (2) coil =2.5mm cole-mester wire=#49,000×2=#98,000
3 Bolt and nuts 🔩 =10 pieces =#3000
4 Change over. 100A =#7,000
5 Trunking pipe and concrete nail =#3000
6 Cable locks=#1,500
7 Breaker =#13,000
8 Surge protector DC =#22,000
9 Breakers box /9 ways.=4,500

Its true your setup can go with 6mm.
But a good installer will advice you to use a bigger size cable just to dissipate heat better and give you chance to increase s tomorrow if the case arises. Even if you can afford 16mm, use it. If tomorrow God bless you with money and you want to change system to carry 10-12 s, you won't talk of buying cable again coz the 16mm will do it. 6mm or 10mm won't do it.

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HeavenlyBang(m): 6:53am On Oct 25, 2024
mctfopt:


Is the freezer the inverter type?

Inverter technology has no starting surge, so no.
kristien4(m): 7:23am On Oct 25, 2024
ask4bk:


You see! I countered your topic without touching your person, you replied, went off the topic and came straight to attack my person, and to top it all, you claim being the better person after just doing this.

Typical Nigerian

You'll argue with a Nigeria that "I think Ronaldo is better than Messi because of his effectiveness at goal". Instead of the Nigerian to come up with a counter argument on why Messi is better, staying on the topic, he'll rather say "your brain is rotten, that's why you think so. You de mad, and your family is hungry, that's why you think Ronaldo is better".

I gave a scientific opinion, you should come up with counter scientific evidence against me like some did. Instead you prefer to insult my person.

Sannu da aiki 🙏🏾
When you used the word something "fishy". That was an attack on my person. I have no business defending growatt or jinko. You can say its impossible for s to produce 100% of their watts, and you can say charge controllers show higher readings, that will be your opinion. Saying my marketing is fishy, is accusing me already. I have a dealership with Fouani, i can sell s/inverter/acs/tvs for lower than the price you see on the fouani website. But you dont see me posting ads here everyday.i hardly post. Few days b4 i made that post, i noticed the sun was super bright, the brightest i have seen since i installed my growatt 5000spf. I'm like let me check, i noticed the harvest was super high, i snapped and posted with a little ad stating i was in benin, because i no get strength for ship here and there. All of a sudden someone says I'm being fishy. Anyways no vess, your comment annoyed me.

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mctfopt: 7:23am On Oct 25, 2024
HeavenlyBang:


Inverter technology has no starting surge, so no.

Thought as much. The OP on freezer should get an inverter freezer.
Ferdiwar: 9:48am On Oct 25, 2024
Mine has been great with its cooling and I can not complain.

Moreover I'm not trying to freeze the people in the house grin cheesy

adrusa:


What I have heard is that the inverter ACs are not as good in of cooling.
Lenkus: 10:05am On Oct 25, 2024
AmakaRuby:
Good day, installer requested 10mm DC cable wire. Some one I have been chatting with here before now recommend 4mm or 6mm but this installer says I should get 10mm. Help me check this pls, I have 4.2kva welion Inverter & 3 of 475w
Distance of 20m for s to DB
1 DC cable 10mm ×10yards=#7,800×10=#78,000
2 AC cable (2) coil =2.5mm cole-mester wire=#49,000×2=#98,000
3 Bolt and nuts 🔩 =10 pieces =#3000
4 Change over. 100A =#7,000
5 Trunking pipe and concrete nail =#3000
6 Cable locks=#1,500
7 Breaker =#13,000
8 Surge protector DC =#22,000
9 Breakers box /9 ways.=4,500

I think it is better you get another quote from a different installer. I don't know what he is calculating under item 1, if the distance from to DB is 20m. Why is he quoting for 10mm x 10yards? You need to find out from him if he is buying 10 yards of 10mm cable because 10 yards is not the same as 20m?
ask4bk(m): 10:06am On Oct 25, 2024
kristien4:
When you used the word something "fishy". That was an attack on my person. I have no business defending growatt or jinko. You can say its impossible for s to produce 100% of their watts, and you can say charge controllers show higher readings, that will be your opinion. Saying my marketing is fishy, is accusing me already. I have a dealership with Fouani, i can sell s/inverter/acs/tvs for lower than the price you see on the fouani website. But you dont see me posting ads here everyday.i hardly post. Few days b4 i made that post, i noticed the sun was super bright, the brightest i have seen since i installed my growatt 5000spf. I'm like let me check, i noticed the harvest was super high, i snapped and posted with a little ad stating i was in benin, because i no get strength for ship here and there. All of a sudden someone says I'm being fishy. Anyways no vess, your comment annoyed me.
I didn't mean you as a person is fishy, instead I meant the info could be wrong. Maybe I used a wrong word that triggered you. I'm sorry for that.

Thanks for a better explanation now that stayed on the topic.
Respect bro!

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Dam5reey1(m): 11:54am On Oct 25, 2024
Maturity.. grin

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AmakaRuby: 1:13pm On Oct 25, 2024
ask4bk:


Its true your setup can go with 6mm.
But a good installer will advice you to use a bigger size cable just to dissipate heat better and give you chance to increase s tomorrow if the case arises. Even if you can afford 16mm, use it. If tomorrow God bless you with money and you want to change system to carry 10-12 s, you won't talk of buying cable again coz the 16mm will do it. 6mm or 10mm won't do it.
Tnx sir, what of the quantity of 2.5mm wire?
AmakaRuby: 1:17pm On Oct 25, 2024
Lenkus:


I think it is better you get another quote from a different installer. I don't know what he is calculating under item 1, if the distance from to DB is 20m. Why is he quoting for 10mm x 10yards? You need to find out from him if he is buying 10 yards of 10mm cable because 10 yards is not the same as 20m?

Ok sir
dollarnaira: 1:20pm On Oct 25, 2024
CNG wont be cheaper in the future maintain your petrol car. It is cheaper now because there are less cars using CNG. Time will tell.

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TheCreatorVerse: 1:36pm On Oct 25, 2024
revived2: 1:46pm On Oct 25, 2024
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swagifted(m): 1:56pm On Oct 25, 2024
ojesymsym:
Inverter ACs vs Regular ACs?

Are the inverter ACs energy efficient enough to justify their extra cost over regular ACs, which are also getting fairly energy efficient on their own?

What are your thoughts folks?
yes the efficiency is really glaring .... but if your desire is motuary standard of chilling leave inverter AC alone.
swagifted(m): 1:58pm On Oct 25, 2024
dollarnaira:
CNG wont be cheaper in the future maintain your petrol car. It is cheaper now because there are less cars using CNG. Time will tell.
this is the only CNG i know oo 😂

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HeavenlyBang(m): 2:31pm On Oct 25, 2024
swagifted:
yes the efficiency is really glaring .... but if your desire is motuary standard of chilling leave inverter AC alone.

Nothing s this theory. My inverter ACs perform as well as any AC can. In fact, my Hisense inverter outperforms my older Samsung non-inverter.

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SEM: 2:40pm On Oct 25, 2024
bigrovar:


I have very little context so pardon me. I am responding to this purely on the face of the comment. I have been a solar now for over 8 years. My first system was a 1.2kw (inverter) paired with a 480w solar and 2 Tubular batteries. That system paired with the grid was able to power basic house loads including a 130L chest freezer. The freezer ran for 4 hours a day.

I later upgraded the inverter to 2.4kw (Axpert inverter) and pared it with 1.8kw solar (and same Tubular battery as before) and ran the house completely off-grid from this setup for over 2 years (no NEPA setup)

In all I ran a 24v system from 2016 - 2022 and had most of my basic loads like fridge, freezer, occasional microwave, occasional ironing etc.

Of cause I did not run all the powerful loads all at ones but my point is, design design design. System design is 80% of the work on solar.

Key is performing a proper energy audit. Deg your system around the result of your energy audit. I used 2 tubular batteries, 2.4kw inverter and 1.8kw solar s to power a 2 bedroom apartment completely off-grid and I lived quite comfortably (as comfortable as you can live without AC LOL)

Even now with a much upgraded system, you can check my daily usage averages at about 1.5kw (when I have 1 AC a freezer, fridge, fan, lots of computers - running in my home lab including a 64 Terabyte NAS with 64g ram and 8 core AMD Ryzen) all of this is running on less than 2kw and when AC is off house load drops to less than 1kw. My VRM numbers is there for anyone to see https://vrm.victronenergy.com/installation/453590/share/df9180a7

People don't use as much power as they think. It is fine and very possible to use a lean prudent, low power system you just have to have the whole system well designed from load to generation to storage.

I wrote a post about lean systems where I talked about how to perform a proper audit https://blog.openculture.org.ng/of-a-budget-solar-inverter-system-energy-audit/

I also made a video of my 24v solar setup back in 2018 which I shared here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UmuA2sU_oIQ?si=6gG1Uw-av7SPaHaS

You are just good, simple!
bassdow: 3:55pm On Oct 25, 2024
HeavenlyBang:


Freezers don't need anywhere near as much as power as you'd think.

The answer to this will depend on how many hours you need the freezer to be running AT NIGHT. Energy storage (batteries) is what s for most of the budget in a setup, I'd say.

If you can make do with the freezers running from 8-5 during the day, and then for maybe four hours in the middle of the night, you'll be able to get a setup that isn't really that expensive. Maybe around 800k.
hmm
bassdow: 3:57pm On Oct 25, 2024
Drgreatone:

800k for what sir? Inverter and battery alone wud need more not to now talk of s and accessories with installation fee
You for just allow (or make am) confirm wetin e talk before this your input. Me ma just respond with hmm

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