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patrickmuf(m): 8:12am On Oct 10, 2024
GloriousGbola:


They are well armed. It does not translate to strength. The Saudis have failed to put down Iranian proxies in Yemen
When your enemy is using guerilla tactics, it's almost impossible to decimate them.

Hezbollah fired more than 200 missiles into Israel a day or two ago after all the bombings the IDF have conducted in Lebanon. In Yemen, it's not different, the US and their allies have bombarded the Houthis in Yemen yet they still have the capability to attack ships and fire missiles into Israel.
BlueRayDick: 8:24am On Oct 10, 2024
Itsrm:


Not if you can treat it as leisure. In the spirit of disclosure, I don't bet myself. However, I have done it with crypto and believe it can be done with betting.

As long as you have control over your emotions.

The bold is the problem. You are looking at betting from an outsider's view.

I've been betting since the days of 1960bet,merrybet,nairabet and surebet (the early pioneers in the Nigerian betting sector). As much as I was a very financially disciplined person,I saw people get into serious financial mess due to betting. Some of them are brilliant people who pride themselves as having total control over their emotions and finances.

There's a kind of high betting gives people. It doesn't matter whether u have money or not, once betting hold u for blokkus u won't stop until it leads u to a dark place. Just look at Ivan Toney the footballer, despite being a millionaire in pounds sterling the betting addiction still had him messed up.

The only panacea for betting addiction is to shun betting completely.

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Itsrm(m): 8:38am On Oct 10, 2024
BlueRayDick:


The bold is the problem. You are looking at betting from an outsider's view.

I've been betting since the days of 1960bet,merrybet,nairabet and surebet (the early pioneers in the Nigerian betting sector). As much as I was a very financially disciplined person,I saw people get into serious financial mess due to betting. Some of them are brilliant people who pride themselves as having total control over their emotions and finances.

There's a kind of high betting gives people. It doesn't matter whether u have money or not, once betting hold u for blokkus u won't stop until it leads u to a dark place. Just look at Ivan Toney the footballer, despite being a millionaire in pounds sterling the betting addiction still had him messed up.

The only panacea for betting addiction is to shun betting completely.

Everything you think happens with bet also happen with crypto. Infact, before now, I was totally anti betting. Then I started crypto and realised there's very little difference between them.

Infact, the only major difference is that in crypto, nothing ever completely dies especially if you stick to the majors. You don't lose until you sell. If I make a trade and the market goes against me, I simply close the app until my sell limit gets triggered when bull market returns. With betting, once the game ends, you've either won or lost. The emotions, the high, addiction and every other thing is also there in crypto.

Now you're making me want to open a bet to prove to you it can actually be done. I will deposit 30k and bet 1k every weekend or every other weekend. I will share my PNL at the end of the season.

Only thing is, if I do, you'll say it's because I wanted to prove a point. grin
izzou(m): 8:42am On Oct 10, 2024
Itsrm:


Everything you think happens with bet also happen with crypto. Infact, before now, I was totally anti betting. Then I started crypto and realised there's very little difference between them.

Infact, the only major difference is that in crypto, nothing ever dies. You don't lose until you sell. If I make a trade and the market goes against me, I simply close the app until my sell limit gets triggered when bull market returns. With betting, once the game ends, you've either won or lost. The emotions, the high, addiction and every other thing is also there in crypto.

Now you're making me want to open a bet to prove to you it can actually be done. I will deposit 30k and bet 1k every weekend or every two weekends. I will share my PNL at the end of the season.

Only thing is, if I do, you'll say it's because I wanted to prove a point. grin

Oga, no be the same thing oh.

You can as well say stock trading is the same as betting; which you know is not true.

Crypto firms made their money from trading crypto. No Bet company made its money from placing 2 odds.

I would advise you don't start. Make clap no turn to dance

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seankafor(m): 8:43am On Oct 10, 2024
Itsrm:


Not if you can treat it as leisure. In the spirit of disclosure, I don't bet myself. However, I have done it with crypto and believe it can be done with betting.

As long as you have control over your emotions.
don't compare crypto with betting bro, they re miles apart in differences

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seankafor(m): 8:45am On Oct 10, 2024
Itsrm:


Everything you think happens with bet also happen with crypto. Infact, before now, I was totally anti betting. Then I started crypto and realised there's very little difference between them.

Infact, the only major difference is that in crypto, nothing ever completely dies especially if you stick to the majors. You don't lose until you sell. If I make a trade and the market goes against me, I simply close the app until my sell limit gets triggered when bull market returns. With betting, once the game ends, you've either won or lost. The emotions, the high, addiction and every other thing is also there in crypto.

Now you're making me want to open a bet to prove to you it can actually be done. I will deposit 30k and bet 1k every weekend or every other weekend. I will share my PNL at the end of the season.

Only thing is, if I do, you'll say it's because I wanted to prove a point. grin
betting is pure gambling in its utmost definition.. how's it same with crypto? Unless you re talking about shitcoins here thoor
Itsrm(m): 8:58am On Oct 10, 2024
izzou:


Oga, no be the same thing oh.

You can as well say stock trading is the same as betting; which you know is not true.

Crypto firms made their money from trading crypto. No Bet company made its money from placing 2 odds.

I would advise you don't start. Make clap no turn to dance

What you don't see with crypto which is the same as betting is, in both cases, the odds are heavily stacked against you.

With betting, you're betting against the bookie and with crypto, you're betting against heavy market movers.

You're betting against people who decide in one corner the direction they want the market to go and are trying to take your small 1 or 2k dollars to add to theirs.

I am not saying betting will turn anyone into a millionaire or billionaire. I don't even believe influencers like Mr banks and the likes make their money from betting

I'm only saying it can be done without getting addicted if you have control over your emotions and treat it as leisure. I know I have over mine.
Itsrm(m): 9:03am On Oct 10, 2024
seankafor:
don't compare crypto with betting bro, they re miles apart in differences

Apart from the fact that you don't lose till you sell, what's the other difference?

Whether it's btc, sol or eth, all you're doing is trying to take other people's money which is the same as trying to take the bookies money.
Amoto94(m): 9:03am On Oct 10, 2024
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BlueRayDick: 9:05am On Oct 10, 2024
Itsrm:


Everything you think happens with bet also happen with crypto. Infact, before now, I was totally anti betting. Then I started crypto and realised there's very little difference between them.

Infact, the only major difference is that in crypto, nothing ever completely dies especially if you stick to the majors. You don't lose until you sell. If I make a trade and the market goes against me, I simply close the app until my sell limit gets triggered when bull market returns. With betting, once the game ends, you've either won or lost. The emotions, the high, addiction and every other thing is also there in crypto.

Now you're making me want to open a bet to prove to you it can actually be done. I will deposit 30k and bet 1k every weekend or every other weekend. I will share my PNL at the end of the season.

Only thing is, if I do, you'll say it's because I wanted to prove a point. grin

I would like to take u up on this challenge . Please go ahead with the bet , deposit the 30k and share with us ur winnings and progress every Monday morning .

You will learn the lesson most people who do rollover betting challenge always learn in the long run 😎

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izzou(m): 9:11am On Oct 10, 2024
Itsrm:


What you don't see with crypto which is the same as betting is, in both cases, the odds are heavily stacked against you.

With betting, you're betting against the bookie and with crypto, you're betting against heavy market movers.

You're betting against people who decide in one corner the direction they want the market to go and are trying to take your small 1 or 2k dollars to add to theirs.

I am not saying betting will turn anyone into a millionaire or billionaire. I don't even believe influencers like Mr banks and the likes make their money from betting

I'm only saying it can be done without getting addicted if you have control over your emotions and treat it as leisure. I know I have over mine.

We are not talking about a hobby here. We are talking psychology; Something that messes with your mindset and thinking

You think people who smoke can take it casually without getting addicted?

In Crypto, if you get burnt, you rest. I haven't seen anyone begging for 2k to buy shit coins

People beg for 100 naira to strike games. People get burnt in betting, and they go into debt to just bet.

You really haven't gone through this path...If you have, you'll understand the wide difference between both.

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GloriousGbola: 9:12am On Oct 10, 2024
GloriousGbola: 9:14am On Oct 10, 2024
izzou:


We are not talking about a hobby here. We are talking psychology; Something that messes with your mindset and thinking

You think people who smoke can take it casually without getting addicted?

In Crypto, if you get burnt, you rest. I haven't seen anyone begging for 2k to buy shit coins

People beg for 100 naira to strike games. People get burnt in betting, and they go into debt to just bet.

You really haven't gone through this path...If you have, you'll understand the wide difference between both.

i think crypto is more dangerous than gambling because of FOMO which means guys will stake very very very large amounts because they think they are about to hammer, when all they about to do is be victim of a rugpull

same way guys doing currency speculation back then got burnt
Itsrm(m): 9:18am On Oct 10, 2024
BlueRayDick:


I would like to take u up on this challenge . Please go ahead with the bet , deposit the 30k and share with us ur winnings and progress every Monday morning .

You will learn the lesson most people who do rollover betting challenge always learn in the long run 😎

Challenge accepted. I will update every Monday

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nihilistjnr: 9:24am On Oct 10, 2024
afrodoc2:



Yeah, the Bible alludes to that. Once one OG brings peace to the Middle East like this, i will hang up by mentorship boots for good. I no like heat.
cry

That's why you have to print out your forgiveness prayer and carry it in your pocket everywhere you go.

Na deathbed confession I dey gbojule before but what if the death comes too quick to rush out a prayer? I can't be dealing with VAR in the afterlife arguing with Angel Gabriel how me saying "I repent" with blood gurgling out my orifices was not me just taking my last breath grin

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BlueRayDick: 9:28am On Oct 10, 2024
Itsrm:


What you don't see with crypto which is the same as betting is, in both cases, the odds are heavily stacked against you.

With betting, you're betting against the bookie and with crypto, you're betting against heavy market movers.

You're betting against people who decide in one corner the direction they want the market to go and are trying to take your small 1 or 2k dollars to add to theirs.

I am not saying betting will turn anyone into a millionaire or billionaire. I don't even believe influencers like Mr banks and the likes make their money from betting

I'm only saying it can be done without getting addicted if you have control over your emotions and treat it as leisure. I know I have over mine.

😂😂😂

Dey play !

In 2014 I can’t the precise national team now in Europe, they played draw with one of these minow teams ; i think it was either Liechtenstein , San Marino or Andorra .

The top team had 1.01 odd to win and the minnow had 21 odds to win. A lot of people lost money because of that draw.

Upset will humble u 😂
Itsrm(m): 9:29am On Oct 10, 2024
izzou:


We are not talking about a hobby here. We are talking psychology; Something that messes with your mindset and thinking

You think people who smoke can take it casually without getting addicted?

In Crypto, if you get burnt, you rest. I haven't seen anyone begging for 2k to buy shit coins

People beg for 100 naira to strike games. People get burnt in betting, and they go into debt to just bet.


You really haven't gone through this path...If you have, you'll understand the wide difference between both.

You don't know me.

You guys had a conversation here about fake drinks and I decided I wasn't going to take any drink ever again. That discussion was in May 2023 It's been more than one year and I have not tasted any drink that is not water.

Even if I win a million naira with 1k, my next bet is in another week or two weeks as planned.

I have absolute control over myself and my emotions and won't agree that everyone who bets gets addicted to it.

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iamoyindamola(m): 9:29am On Oct 10, 2024
Amoto94:
Hiring!!!

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Work Type: Onsite
Remuneration: N200k-300k

How to Apply
Interested applicants should send their CV to [email protected].

Only shortlisted candidates will be ed for interviews.
I will like and share because this is better and a nice gesture
BlueRayDick: 9:30am On Oct 10, 2024
Itsrm:


Challenge accepted. I will update every Monday

Good! Please note that on each ticket u are expected to accumulate at least 5 games. It's not the one u will bet on just one team every weekend o.
Itsrm(m): 9:32am On Oct 10, 2024
BlueRayDick:


Good! Please note that on each ticket u are expected to accumulate at least 5 games. It's not the one u will bet on just one team every weekend o.

Of course. What will 1k on one team do for me? Since I only need one win to break even, minimum odd will be 30. Maximum 100.
Theflint1(m): 9:47am On Oct 10, 2024
Itsrm:


Of course. What will 1k on one team do for me? Since I only need one win to break even, minimum odd will be 30. Maximum 100.
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BlueRayDick: 9:48am On Oct 10, 2024
izzou:


We are not talking about a hobby here. We are talking psychology; Something that messes with your mindset and thinking

You think people who smoke can take it casually without getting addicted?

In Crypto, if you get burnt, you rest. I haven't seen anyone begging for 2k to buy shit coins

People beg for 100 naira to strike games. People get burnt in betting, and they go into debt to just bet.

You really haven't gone through this path...If you have, you'll understand the wide difference between both.

This is why I'm laughing at him. He hasn't seen things; betting dey useless person.

When I dey school, person wey contest for SUG election wey be our padi and we dey live around same hostel; we don jam severally for bet shop that year. A particular sunday we don resume to bet shop around 9.am knack games. As I go house go sleep, around 1pm I wake go back bet shop to check the progress of the games because we played all those Korea, Australia and China league wey dey start very early on the morning as part of our accumulation game. Ticket don burst since around 12 noon grin

This my padi came in beaming with smile hoping he had won because most of the team he played won. He forgot he carried one useless Korean team wey don chop 3-0 at home. grin grin grin. As he say make operator help am check ticket , na so we see one red apple.

This guy legit begged me for N100 say make he rebet , carry man city and other EPL games. Bet don chop am finish . I told him I don't have any money again except the money I want to use for food,yet he insisted I lend him. I no gree o. The funny thing is when I eventually bought food with my cash, we still chop am together and that day man city he wanted to bet on played draw which means he would still have lost the money if i had given him to bet.

Itsrm no know anything about the dangers of betting.
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scott509: 9:56am On Oct 10, 2024
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Theflint1(m): 10:01am On Oct 10, 2024
BlueRayDick:


Good! Please note that on each ticket u are expected to accumulate at least 5 games. It's not the one u will bet on just one team every weekend o.
Since he says minimum odds will be 30, anyhow he chooses to accumulate those 30 odds is fine.
afrodoc2: 10:04am On Oct 10, 2024
ChristineC:
grin grin grin
just dey play
you can't seriously be waiting for signs and wonders before you hang boots

I don hang the boots o. I just meant "for good".
BlueRayDick: 10:06am On Oct 10, 2024
Theflint1:
grin grin grin

Abeg make the odds real low, like 3 or something, no way you're accumulating 30 odds without trying very risky games. Odds of max 3, or even 2 sef, would love to see the outcome of this experiment.

But then 1K on 3 odds is basically waste of time, but since it's purely for experimental purposes, no wam.

Anybody that has played bet enough knows there's nothing like safe odds. Teams with 1.08 odds dey lose, teams with 17 odss dey win.

You should go on twitter and see people rejoicing anytime a new football season is starting; they all have the positive energy that they will win big this new season. When season ends and u ask them how many weeks they actually won in a 38 week league season, u will be surprised even the most experienced punters don't win up to 10 times in a season. Why? Simply because of upset.

All my life I've known elderly people who have been playing "pool" since the 70's/80's long before sports betting became a thing. They bet on Australian leagues and lower leagues in England. You will see those baba's in small wooden shops with white net-like curtains. Some of them are grandpas now and still play pool forecasting draws in those leagues. Those babas know teams that will play draw like the back of their hands, yet they always suffer upsets denying them millions of naira year after year. They study chats, trends and patterns yet they always fall short.

I just dey look itsrm. By the time Akhisar belediyespor beats Galatasary from nowhere, his eyes will clear grin

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Itsrm(m): 10:08am On Oct 10, 2024
Theflint1:
Since he says minimum odds will be 30, anyhow he chooses to accumulate those 30 odds is fine.


Yes. That way, I will only need one lucky win over the course of the season to make my money back.

The whole idea is to show that even with betting, you can have a plan and stick to it.
nihilistjnr: 10:08am On Oct 10, 2024
afrodoc2:


I don hang the boots o. I just meant "for good".

Olokpa go still carry this man. E sure me die grin grin grin

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BlueRayDick: 10:10am On Oct 10, 2024
Theflint1:
Since he says minimum odds will be 30, anyhow he chooses to accumulate those 30 odds is fine.

Sure!

Anybody here who has witnessed Punt for fun(abi whatever they call it now) which merrybet used to sponsor on Nairaland in the past(I don't know if they still do) will know that what he's trying to do is very very difficult.

But let's see how it goes, Itsrm may be a chosen sha. I look forward to his monday updates showing us how much he deposited in his bet over the weekend, his bet slip for the weekend and the outcome of the bets.
Amoto94(m): 10:15am On Oct 10, 2024
This is a lesson for Nigeria. There is no record of any country where removal of critical subsidies has ever worked. Argentina s that case study: “More than half of Argentina's 46 million people are now living in poverty, new figures indicate, in a blow to right-wing President Javier Milei's efforts to turn around the country's beleaguered economy” - BBC

I am a Democrat but a social conservative. I like how Democratic cities funtion in America. If you look at the records, everything is self-evident: more than 80% of top ranked US universities, largest cities, etc are run by Democrats. Even in conversative haven like Texas, check, their best universities are likely under Democratic city controls.

Why? Democrats share the goodies, opening opportunities via public infrastructures which end up helping many. They build roads, schools, train stations and many enablers which help everyone. Sure, taxes are high, but those rich people are not running away because they get value.

So, when the new Argentine leader came and focused on cutting out the “poor”, I felt that he did not get the memo. In America, from Republicans and Democrats, they subsidize and subsidize, and ramp up the national budget. Trump spent more than Biden even though some may think that there is a difference between a dozen and 12 when it comes to US federal government spending to drive the future:

Just as it makes no sense to balance your bank by asking for a thinner chequebook, you cannot fix a country by scaling poverty through austerity!

During covid, America was falling into a rough poverty line as many lost their jobs. What did Trump do? The “conversative” leader printed cheques and sent them to millions of the citizens. Many state governors, from blue to red states, did the same. And when Biden took over, he repeated the party.

But come to Africa, my position is clear: find ways to raise capital to ignite growth but do not put ordinary citizens under the bus. Subsidies are NOT bad; what is bad is the corruption in subsidies. Fix the corruption and you will see abundance for all https://www.tekedia.com/the-lesson-from-argentina-for-nigeria-on-scaling-poverty-via-mindless-reforms/

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Theflint1(m): 10:19am On Oct 10, 2024
Itsrm:



Yes. That way, I will only need one lucky win over the course of the season to make my money back.

The whole idea is to show that even with betting, you can have a plan and stick to it.

And what if you don't get the one winning ticket?

I think it's easy to have a plan and stick with it when that plan is 1K every weekend, people that go into betting for the reason anyone goes into betting knows it's next to impossible to do so.

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