NewStats: 3,262,465 , 8,177,204 topics. Date: Monday, 02 June 2025 at 11:10 AM y5x5f

SmartPolician:
It's understandable because Nigerians are obsessed with America! In fact, Nigerians are the most successful immigrant groups in America today.

However, those who go there with the intent of committing crimes should that they are blocking the ways of those who still want to Japa to America.

indians are the most successful not Nigerians. Nigerians are not even in top10

steeltrust:
depend on the route
Mine was 5 months

Ifybwoy:


I guess you came through marriage or work?

any one you take come as far na legally
Getting green card no de hard

SmartPolician:
It's understandable because Nigerians are obsessed with America! In fact, Nigerians are the most successful immigrant groups in America today.

However, those who go there with the intent of committing crimes should that they are blocking the ways of those who still want to Japa to America.

False!

Indians.

SmartPolician:


I don't owe you to reply you, but I am just relying to this comment to set the record straight. No ethnic group of US immigrants has more successful people than Nigeria.

https://www.thisdaylive.com/index.php/2024/01/16/us-nigerian-citizens-most-successful-educated-immigrant-group-in-america/

PS: I won't reply you again.

I don't believe no other outlet carries this it must be empirical by the way I read that when it came out.

Ofodirinwa:
Nigeria has nearly 1/4th of Africa's population so what is the point of this news?

Exactly, this is NOT news. Maybe worth a mention sha, but shouldn't surprise anyone.

Thanks.

Alphiegabe:


Nigerians are more successful than the indians and Chinese, don't be delusional.

Absolutely NOT true, not by a long shot. On a per average household basis, Indian Asians earn more INCOME than White Americans. White Americans hold more accumulated WEALTH. Nigerians are likely the most EDUCATED, but that doesn't equate to high income or wealth.

It's like the breathless data about women overtaking men in education, especially Black Women dusting Black Men in degree acquisition. The data shows that Black Men still earn more than Black Women. Because Black women tend to get degrees that don't pay well, while Black Men doing even menial, skilled or semi-skilled labor earn more.

Good Luck to Nigeria.

Ifybwoy:


Guy you are always ing everything evil

You Islam

You Wike

You APC

You Buhari

You Tinubu

You Hamas

You Hezbollah

Abeg were you born evil

No, i am not born evil and i am not evil! Even if your dad become the president tomorrow i will him.

Hope your dad is evil too?

I don't Hamas, Hezbollah, IPOB , Boko Haram or any other group!

steeltrust:
ode
I came in last year November

I got my green card march this year. My work authorization came earlier in February

Na the time you reach 60years with nothing to your name due to the mismanagement of the leaders we have then you go I wish I know. Better japa, better your life and come back to invest. De play 😂🤣

Thank you!
No be everyone will be ode like you!

We are satisfied with what Allah has granted us in Nigeria!

Go and die there!

IbeOkehie:


Exactly, this is NOT news. Maybe worth a mention sha, but shouldn't surprise anyone.

Thanks.



Absolutely NOT true, not by a long shot. On a per average household basis, Indian Asians earn more INCOME than White Americans. White Americans hold more accumulated WEALTH. Nigerians are likely the most EDUCATED, but that doesn't equate to high income or wealth.

It's like the breathless data about women overtaking men in education, especially Black Women dusting Black Men in degree acquisition. The data shows that Black Men still earn more than Black Women. Because Black women tend to get degrees that don't pay well, while Black Men doing even menial labor earn more than them.

Good Luck to Nigeria.

Nigerians also earn more than white americans and are signficantly more educated that white and indians

Ofodirinwa:


Nigerians also earn more than white americans and are signficantly more educated that white and indians

Stories

Gerrard59:
It's very logical considering Nigeria is Africa's most populous country. The growth of immigrants from developing countries will scare whites especially as their birth rates have plummeted and they are growing older.

You entered as a married person and got a lucky with processing. Other non-immigrant routes have much longer queues. But yes, I agree. The US is the best place to thrive as a black professional. The money is as if it's minted


Most educated, not most successful unless you define what it means to be successful.

This is why I find your comments worth reading even if we don't 100% agree. You're well informed. You gather info AND think about what you find out, hence plausible opinions. Must be something in that local Japanese rice.

Good Luck to Nigerians.

AntiChristian:


Thank you!
No be everyone will be ode like you!

We are satisfied with what Allah has granted us in Nigeria!

Go and die there!

na why I call you ode
Imagine em put allah for the suffer wan em while the rest of godswill akpabio, ganduje etc eat your generation away

I was once like you
Don’t worry
You will learn a lesson 😂

Nice1❤️

steeltrust:
na why I call you ode
Imagine em put allah for the suffer wan em while the rest of godswill akpabio, ganduje etc eat your generation away

I was once like you
Don’t worry
You will learn a lesson 😂

You're the biggest ode when its evident you can die anytime even while you are there!

Everyone is living their respective destinies!
Even there are many immigrants over there who are still living from hand to mouth!

I think your death will teach others a lesson!

Saintlaurent33:


Stfu Enemy of Progress

So progress is only defined as migration in your dictionary?

Na why many no get brain! Take the stfu home !

Ofodirinwa:


1) Nigerians also earn more than white americans and

2) are significantly more educated that white and Indians

1) I've not come across that data. It might be true.

2) Education is not necessarily success. Success means creating tools, products and processes that solve problems and enrich society, which leads to DEVELOPMENT. Anyone who doesn't know is advised to look up the ECONOMIC meaning of development. Nigerians are an undeveloped people.

The Anglo-Saxons created the USA, a system that enables Nigerians and Indian immigrants to thrive. There's a reason India was the Poverty Capital of the World until Nigeria took the title in 2018. Replace the entire population of the USA with Nigerians and the results after two generations will not surprise anyone.

Good Luck to Nigeria.

AntiChristian:


You're the biggest ode when its evident you can die anytime even while you are there!

Everyone is living their respective destinies!
Even there are many immigrants over there who are still living from hand to mouth!

I think your death will teach others a lesson!

😂🤣
Watin con involve death for this matter now 😂
Na because I say no involve allah for your own suffering 😂🤣

Death is a normal thing so I don’t see why you make it a fuse of it
But before then for this yankee no immigrant de suffer

Even the once wan come illegally de enjoy you wan de naija 😂

Your word are just like air
It will into the thin air

But make I tell you
No be to com nairaland de cho Cho

Better japa or find away to better your life if not you go suffer for 600years 😂🤣

steeltrust:


Yankee na land of milk and honey
No matter who you’re
The grand free for you to grow to any length you want in life

Theirs is nothing like bring who you know or who know you except racism here and there and the gun violence and the weather conditions which is sometimes very bad
But In america is a great country to thrive
Pay your tax
Obey their laws and you’re good to go

I ire the USA with as much fervor as you do. Just wondering if you've ever questioned what exactly underlies the national success.

Why do you think the USA is such a great country of opportunity? As in, what things have made it that way?

You wrote - Theirs is nothing like bring who you know or who know you. Why do you think there's less of such nepotism in the USA than in Nigeria and many other countries?

What do you think has KEPT the USA improving over 250 years? Again, just curious....if you have the time to answer I'd be much obliged.

Thanks.

Good Luck to Nigeria.

steeltrust:
😂🤣
Watin con involve death for this matter now 😂
Na because I say no involve allah for your own suffering 😂🤣

Whether we suffer or enjoy it is Allah!

Death is a normal thing so I don’t see why you make it a fuse of it
But before then for this yankee no immigrant de suffer

Even the once wan come illegally de enjoy you wan de naija 😂

Na true you talk!

Your word are just like air
It will into the thin air

But make I tell you
No be to com nairaland de cho Cho

Better japa or find away to better your life if not you go suffer for 600years 😂🤣

You don live 60 years first?

AntiChristian:


Whether we suffer or enjoy it is Allah!

Na true you talk!



You don live 60 years first?

ode your papa reach sixty years 😂🤣

Even if I die
I leave enough wealth for my family
You Watin you don leave
Ozuo

As na you be angel of death
Deputy allah
Shabi virgin de wait for you
Why you no die make you go de with the virgins

Suffering and smiling okponu

IbeOkehie:


I ire the USA with as much fervor as you do. Just wondering if you've ever questioned what exactly underlies the national success.

Why do you think the USA is such a great country of opportunity? As in, what things have made it that way?

You wrote - Theirs is nothing like bring who you know or who know you. Why do you think there's less of such nepotism in the USA than in Nigeria and many other countries?

What do you think has KEPT the USA improving over 250 years? Again, just curious....if you have the time to answer I'd be much obliged.

Thanks.

Good Luck to Nigeria.

The USA's success as a land of opportunity is rooted in several key factors that have shaped its development over the past 250 years. Here are some of the major reasons why it has been able to offer opportunities to so many:

1. **Democratic Foundations and Rule of Law**: The U.S. has built its success on strong democratic institutions and the rule of law. The Constitution established a system of checks and balances that has largely prevented any one person or group from gaining too much power. This fosters political stability and ensures that individual rights are protected. In such an environment, people are more likely to take risks and innovate because they know the system will protect their investments and property.

2. **Immigration and Diversity**: The U.S. has a long history of welcoming immigrants, many of whom brought new ideas, skills, and ambition to the country. This constant influx of diverse talent and perspectives has contributed to the country's innovation and adaptability. Immigrants have been a driving force in many industries, from technology to medicine.

3. **Capitalism and a Market Economy**: The U.S. operates under a capitalist system where market forces generally dictate business operations. This encourages competition, which in turn drives innovation and efficiency. The relatively limited government intervention in private enterprise, alongside a strong legal framework for businesses, has allowed industries to thrive.

4. **Education and Innovation**: Over time, the U.S. has invested heavily in education and research. Its universities and research institutions are among the best in the world. The government and private sector have also fostered a culture of innovation, particularly in science and technology, which has led to breakthroughs that have benefited the entire world.

5. **Infrastructure and Geography**: The U.S. has had the advantage of vast natural resources and an extensive, well-developed infrastructure that has enabled large-scale industrial growth and global trade. Its location, with access to two oceans, also positioned it as a global trading hub.

6. **Meritocracy Over Nepotism**: While nepotism exists everywhere to some degree, the U.S. has developed strong cultural and institutional norms that reward merit and talent. Key institutions, from businesses to universities, emphasize qualifications, skills, and performance. Of course, "who you know" can still be important, but merit-based systems in industries like tech, medicine, and finance allow individuals to rise based on their abilities rather than connections. This contrasts with countries like Nigeria, where nepotism and corruption can sometimes stifle progress by favoring personal connections over competence.

7. **Legal and Financial Institutions**: The U.S. has established robust legal and financial systems that have helped promote entrepreneurship and innovation. With accessible capital markets, venture capital, and a well-regulated banking system, individuals and companies have been able to secure the funding needed to grow businesses and create jobs.

8. **Checks on Power and Regular Renewal**: The U.S. political system requires regular renewal of leadership through elections. This constant ability ensures that leaders can be replaced if they don't meet the people's needs, which encourages continuous improvement. Unlike many countries where leaders stay in power for extended periods, the U.S. rotates power through elections, bringing fresh ideas and perspectives to the table.

9. **Cultural Emphasis on Individualism and Innovation**: The U.S. places a high value on individualism and entrepreneurship. There's a cultural belief that anyone can succeed if they work hard and innovate, often referred to as the "American Dream." This drives people to take risks and pursue opportunities that might not be available in more collectivist societies.

As for what has *kept* the U.S. improving over the last 250 years, a key factor is its adaptability. The country has shown a remarkable ability to adjust to new challenges and opportunities, whether through technological advances, social movements, or shifts in global politics. Constant reinvention, along with a system that allows for debate and reform, has enabled the U.S. to overcome many of its problems while continuing to progress.

Nigeria, and other nations striving for similar success, can certainly achieve these results by focusing on building strong institutions, reducing corruption, and fostering a culture that rewards merit and innovation.

BONUS: do you know the US is an import dependent country ?

Google search
Major port in the country are currently on strike and the economy is slowing cause of this

steeltrust:
ode your papa reach sixty years 😂🤣

Even if I die
I leave enough wealth for my family
You Watin you don leave
Ozuo

As na you be angel of death
Deputy allah
Shabi virgin de wait for you
Why you no die make you go de with the virgins

Suffering and smiling okponu

My dad is close to 70 and still living!

Wey yours?

Die first na!
Na your family go suffer no be me!

Who told you I dey suffer?

No be only virgins!

Anuofia!

AntiChristian:


My dad is close to 70 and still living!

Wey yours?

Die first na!
Na your family go suffer no be me!

Who told you I dey suffer?

No be only virgins!

Anuofia!

tribal bigot
My day is 89 now
Suffer full your family na why you de depend on allah to come help you for the suffer you de so.

Okponu oshi 😂🤣😂

IbeOkehie:


1) I've not come across that data. It might be true.

2) Education is not necessarily success. Success means creating tools, products and processes that solve problems and enrich society, which leads to DEVELOPMENT. Anyone who doesn't know is advised to look up the ECONOMIC meaning of development. Nigerians are an undeveloped people.

The Anglo-Saxons created the USA, a system that enables Nigerians and Indian immigrants to thrive. There's a reason India was the Poverty Capital of the World until Nigeria took the title in 2018. Replace the entire population of the USA with Nigerians and the results after two generations will not surprise anyone.

Good Luck to Nigeria.

You think Anglo-Saxons created the US because that's what they've told you. The United States was a collaborative creation and development made by people from several cultures, since beginning and to date.

Nigerian Americans also contribute disproportionately to creating tools, products and processes, as do Indian Americans (to a greater extent than Nigerian Americans)

The topic wasn't countries, it was populations in the US.

Ofodirinwa:


You think Anglo-Saxons created the US because that's what they've told you. The United States was a collaborative creation and development made by people from several cultures, since beginning and to date.

Nigerian Americans also contribute disproportionately to creating tools, products and processes, as do Indian Americans (to a greater extent than Nigerian Americans)

The topic wasn't countries, it was populations in the US.

Anglos created the USA. Their culture underlies the organization of the USA.

Yes, it's about populations in the USA.
If the population of the USA is replaced with Nigerians or Asians Indians the USA will become a shithole within two generations.

There's a reason that South Africa is the richest country in Africa. We know what culture made it so.

Good Luck to USA.

AntiChristian:


So progress is only defined as migration in your dictionary?

Na why many no get brain! Take the stfu home !

Now, I know why your brain is empty

steeltrust:


The USA's success as a land of opportunity is rooted in several key factors that have shaped its development over the past 250 years. Here are some of the major reasons why it has been able to offer opportunities to so many:

1. **Democratic Foundations and Rule of Law**: The U.S. has built its success on strong democratic institutions and the rule of law. The Constitution established a system of checks and balances that has largely prevented any one person or group from gaining too much power. This fosters political stability and ensures that individual rights are protected. In such an environment, people are more likely to take risks and innovate because they know the system will protect their investments and property.

2. **Immigration and Diversity**: The U.S. has a long history of welcoming immigrants, many of whom brought new ideas, skills, and ambition to the country. This constant influx of diverse talent and perspectives has contributed to the country's innovation and adaptability. Immigrants have been a driving force in many industries, from technology to medicine.

3. **Capitalism and a Market Economy**: The U.S. operates under a capitalist system where market forces generally dictate business operations. This encourages competition, which in turn drives innovation and efficiency. The relatively limited government intervention in private enterprise, alongside a strong legal framework for businesses, has allowed industries to thrive.

4. **Education and Innovation**: Over time, the U.S. has invested heavily in education and research. Its universities and research institutions are among the best in the world. The government and private sector have also fostered a culture of innovation, particularly in science and technology, which has led to breakthroughs that have benefited the entire world.

5. **Infrastructure and Geography**: The U.S. has had the advantage of vast natural resources and an extensive, well-developed infrastructure that has enabled large-scale industrial growth and global trade. Its location, with access to two oceans, also positioned it as a global trading hub.

6. **Meritocracy Over Nepotism**: While nepotism exists everywhere to some degree, the U.S. has developed strong cultural and institutional norms that reward merit and talent. Key institutions, from businesses to universities, emphasize qualifications, skills, and performance. Of course, "who you know" can still be important, but merit-based systems in industries like tech, medicine, and finance allow individuals to rise based on their abilities rather than connections. This contrasts with countries like Nigeria, where nepotism and corruption can sometimes stifle progress by favoring personal connections over competence.

7. **Legal and Financial Institutions**: The U.S. has established robust legal and financial systems that have helped promote entrepreneurship and innovation. With accessible capital markets, venture capital, and a well-regulated banking system, individuals and companies have been able to secure the funding needed to grow businesses and create jobs.

8. **Checks on Power and Regular Renewal**: The U.S. political system requires regular renewal of leadership through elections. This constant ability ensures that leaders can be replaced if they don't meet the people's needs, which encourages continuous improvement. Unlike many countries where leaders stay in power for extended periods, the U.S. rotates power through elections, bringing fresh ideas and perspectives to the table.

9. **Cultural Emphasis on Individualism and Innovation**: The U.S. places a high value on individualism and entrepreneurship. There's a cultural belief that anyone can succeed if they work hard and innovate, often referred to as the "American Dream." This drives people to take risks and pursue opportunities that might not be available in more collectivist societies.

As for what has *kept* the U.S. improving over the last 250 years, a key factor is its adaptability. The country has shown a remarkable ability to adjust to new challenges and opportunities, whether through technological advances, social movements, or shifts in global politics. Constant reinvention, along with a system that allows for debate and reform, has enabled the U.S. to overcome many of its problems while continuing to progress.

Nigeria, and other nations striving for similar success, can certainly achieve these results by focusing on building strong institutions, reducing corruption, and fostering a culture that rewards merit and innovation.

BONUS: do you know the US is an import dependent country ?

Google search
Major port in the country are currently on strike and the economy is slowing cause of this

Thanks for the answer. I know it takes time so I appreciate it.

Last first. Your bonus point is very important- in many comments on Nairaland I insist that Nigeria must stop all barriers to imports. Most people don't understand that importation is a CONTRIBUTOR to economic growth. So yes I get it and hope the port workers strike won't last long. One of my friends told me he's buying extra household items just in case

All the factors you wrote above result from Anglo-Saxon culture, dominated by the Anglo tribe. While they conquered and settled the USA, the Spanish and Portuguese took over Mexico, Brazil and many other countries in Latin America. The factors you enumerated are more part of the culture in the USA than in Mexico, Cuba and many other places. In fact Argentina used to be the richest country in the world but now has one of the worst economies.

All those things like rule of law, less corruption, democracy, free markets, adaptability, hard work and such are CULTURAL, they're byproducts of the habits of a certain kind of people. There's an interview I posted on Nairaland, a discussion between Vivek Ramanswany and Anne Coulter. The lady is Anglo-Saxon and she made an astounding claim - that the Anglos are the most honest and fair people in the world. It's kinda hard to agree with that seemingly arrogant posture, but she has a point. The USA fought a civil war to free its own slaves. I don't think there's any other people that have done anything similar.

Anyway, my point is about immigration. Yes, immigration is good. But too much of anything is bad. I think the balance has been tipped to bad in the USA. For the USA to continue making progress, we need the right kind of immigrants.

At least half of all immigrants to the USA today are on public cash payments, as in welfare. I know SEVERAL Nigerian immigrants who came to the country in the last 5 to 10 years and went straight on to welfare. It didn't use to be that way 100 years ago.

Add to that, my read is that a huge majority of immigrants to the USA now HATE this country. I don't know if you follow politics, but compare someone like Ilhan Omar to Vivek Ramaswamy. It's just crazy. There's a lot more I could say, but this is not the place.

Anyway, thanks for the reply. I'm very afraid for our country. A nation like this didn't happen by accident. The people who organized and built and made this country possible have become victims of their own kindness and generosity. They've been very, very careless. They've had it too good for a long time and I pray the lessons they have to learn aren't too painful.

Good Luck to USA.

Gerrard59:

Most likely marriage and before then he resided in Nigeria. So upon entry into the US, the period was shortened. He most likely lived as a "man married to American" in Nigeria for two years. No one gets into the US and obtains GC within six months. As for work visa (excluding marriage), it takes at least six years from H1B to GC. An L1 visa gets at least four years. EB-1/2 visas take at least two to three years.

Our people no dey like talk the entire truth. I don't know why.

I had to to reply you and correct your missinformation of the red bold.
My uncle (My mama them last born that stayed with us), whom I am very close to, got married to his AA FBk lover, and within 3 months he arrived the land of opportunities. Within 2 months of arriving the land of opportunities, he got his 2 years GC(according to him, he for get am since but him wife paused the process unto say she dey suspect infidelity). I don learn alot from wetin uncle dey tell me, but I no fit talk am here. By the way, uncle go clock 51 by Dec, & the kind progress him don make eh, God punish our leaders past & present.

Akwukalia:


I had to to reply you and correct your missinformation of the red bold.
My uncle (My mama them last born that stayed with us), whom I am very close to, got married to his AA FBk lover, and within 3 months he arrived the land of opportunities. Within 2 months of arriving the land of opportunities, he got his 2 years GC (according to him, he for get am since but him wife paused the process unto say she dey suspect infidelity). I don learn alot from wetin uncle dey tell me, but I no fit talk am here. By the way, uncle go clock 51 by Dec, & the kind progress him don make eh, God punish our leaders past & present.

Interesting tale from your uncle. I find the bold surprising. But then, what do I know?

Ofodirinwa:


You think Anglo-Saxons created the US because that's what they've told you. The United States was a collaborative creation and development made by people from several cultures, since beginning and to date.

A collaborative effort by people related to Anglo-Saxons, not just every other group.

Nigerian Americans also contribute disproportionately to creating tools, products and processes, as do Indian Americans (to a greater extent than Nigerian Americans)

LOL @ disproportionately. The Chinese have done more for the US than what Indians and Nigerians have done combined. The intriguing thing is: the Chinese have replicated the same across ALL Chinese dominated regions. Have Nigerians and Indians done the same?

IbeOkehie:


All the factors you wrote above result from Anglo-Saxon culture, dominated by the Anglo tribe. While they conquered and settled the USA, the Spanish and Portuguese took over Mexico, Brazil and many other countries in Latin America. The factors you enumerated are more part of the culture in the USA than in Mexico, Cuba and many other places. In fact Argentina used to be the richest country in the world but now has one of the worst economies.

All those things like rule of law, less corruption, democracy, free markets, adaptability, hard work and such are CULTURAL, they're byproducts of the habits of a certain kind of people. There's an interview I posted on Nairaland, a discussion between Vivek Ramanswany and Anne Coulter. The lady is Anglo-Saxon and she made an astounding claim - [b]that the Anglos are the most honest and fair people in the
Good Luck to USA.

Nowadays, we have many dishonest people. If not, why is it difficult to it that development is largely dependent on the culture of the inhabitants? Move Ibibios to Somalia, and Somalis to Akwa Ibom. By 2034, today's Akwa Ibom WOULD resemble today's Somalia and vice-versa. All cultures are not equal. Kemi Badenoch rightfully stated such: https://x.com/BBolitics/status/1840318385818595757

Saintlaurent33:


Now, I know why your brain is empty

Now i know why your brain is overfilled with air!