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Emusan(m): 1:17pm On Sep 21, 2024
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Ignorance.

That is what you displayed in your post and I'm glad I pointed it out for you to see.

Except the baby in the womb isn't living. Presence of life is a testament to the presence of Spirit.

Now, the BABY IS LIVING WITHOUT HEART at that TIME.

Which means your analogy of BODY WITHOUT SPIRIT is pure nonsense.

What is the Spirit that God gave this Foetus that enable it come to life?

1. A spirit person

2. Breath

God gave EVERY HUMAN SPIRIT and the Spirit is a person reason why scripture says the spirit KNOWS THE THOUGHT

ONLY A PERSON has the ability to know THOUGHT.

If you disagree and believe that INANIMATE OBJECT can KNOW THOUGHT present your fact here.

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CAPTIVATOR: 2:35pm On Sep 21, 2024
Emusan:

That is the difference between you and I.
Here is the point again.
The same PEOPLE Jesus stood in their presence and said ONLY THE FATHER KNOWS, is the same PEOPLE WHO DECLARED IN THE PRESENCE OF JESUS (WHO ONCE SAID ONLY THE FATHER KNOWS) that Jesus KNOWS ALL THINGS.

The meaning of "ALL THINGS" as used for Jesus was so profound that you and your cohorts CLAIMED THE APOSTLES MADE MISTAKE simply because of you people hatred for the TRUTH.

So, let me repeat the point I've been hammering on your empty skull since.

The Apostles made that statement in the PRESENCE OF Jesus, if there is something wrong with IT, Jesus is the one who is in the right position to CORRECT THEM but alas Jesus went to reinforced what THEY BELIEVED.

Definitely, it's you who FAILED to understand Jesus not Jesus Himself nor His Apostles.



I've colored your delusion, read it again and tell me how it makes sense to you.



Jesus KNOWS ALL THINGS

Reason why you and your cohorts made the bold statement that the Apostles MADE MISTAKE.

If that is not an implications to you then no way you can be redeemed from your delusion


" oNLY tHe FATHER KNOWS, the son doesn't know " is the Correction!


And that's the point deluded you cannot ever explain and as been jumping around since. If ONLY The Father knows, the Son cannot know and that means the Son doesn't know all things.

The correction is in Matthew 24:36 straight from Jesus mouth
Emusan(m): 2:43pm On Sep 21, 2024
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" oNLY tHe FATHER KNOWS, the son doesn't know " is the Correction!


And that's the point deluded you cannot ever explain and as been jumping around since. If ONLY The Father knows, the Son cannot know and that means the Son doesn't know all things.

But the Son KNOWS ALL THINGS!

Reason why you claimed the Apostles made MISTAKE for your selfish reason.

The correction is in Matthew 24:36 straight from Jesus mouth

No! Come with another lie cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy grin

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CAPTIVATOR: 2:53pm On Sep 21, 2024
Emusan:


That is what you displayed in your post and I'm glad I pointed it out for you to see.
Now, the BABY IS LIVING WITHOUT HEART at that TIME.
Which means your analogy of BODY WITHOUT SPIRIT is pure nonsense.
God gave EVERY HUMAN SPIRIT



The underlined is the Focus. The Baby is Living, for that human in the womb to be living, its a testament to the presence of Spirit. Without which it would be declared Dead. ( James 2:26)

What did God gave that baby in the womb to make it living.

- Breath

- Spirit person


and the Spirit is a person reason why scripture says the spirit KNOWS THE THOUGHT
ONLY A PERSON has the ability to know THOUGHT.
If you disagree and believe that INANIMATE OBJECT can KNOW THOUGHT present your fact here.

If the spirit is a person, that means God transferred a Spirit person from heaven into the body in the womb to make it alive, right ?
CAPTIVATOR: 2:57pm On Sep 21, 2024
Emusan:


But the Son KNOWS ALL THINGS!
Reason why you claimed the Apostles made MISTAKE for your selfish reason.
No! Come with another lie cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy grin

Matthew 24:36 the son doesn't know the day and hour!!! That simply means he doesn't know all things! only the Father knows.


If Jesus knows all things. By implication Jesus, a perfect person , LIED to the world, that he doesn't know the day and hour , and that only the Father know when there are two that knows ?
Emusan(m): 3:11pm On Sep 21, 2024
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Matthew 24:36 the son doesn't know the day and hour!!! That simply means he doesn't know all things! only the Father knows.


If Jesus knows all things. By implication Jesus, a perfect person , LIED to the world, that he doesn't know the day and hour , and that only the Father know when there are two that knows ?

Jesus is not you who can lied.

The reason why you can claimed the Apostles MADE MISTAKE in the PRESENCE of Jesus and Jesus didn't correct them.

The point is, Jesus KNOWS ALL THINGS. Definitely, it's you who don't understand Jesus.

The Holy spirit also KNOWS GOD'S MIND and the very thought of God.

These are the fact from God's word.

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Emusan(m): 3:17pm On Sep 21, 2024
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The underlined is the Focus. The Baby is Living, for that human in the womb to be living, its a testament to the presence of Spirit. Without which it would be declared Dead. ( James 2:26)[

So, why are people died today IMMEDIATELY THEIR HEART STOPPED?

, you're trying to equate this with Adam, when in fact, Adam was already formed COMPLETELY before.

Well, your analogy is out of point.

What did God gave that baby in the womb to make it living.

- Breath

- Spirit person

God gave every human A SPIRIT and that spirit is a PERSON.

If the spirit is a person, that means God transferred a Spirit person from heaven into the body in the womb to make it alive, right ?

@undrrlined is laughable, so you mean God TRANSFERRED SPIRIT TO ALL BABIES IN THE WOMB including those ENEMIES OF JEHOVAH cheesy cheesy grin grin grin grin

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CAPTIVATOR: 3:27pm On Sep 21, 2024
Emusan:


So, why are people died today IMMEDIATELY THEIR HEART STOPPED?


Every death is an absence of spirit. It takes a person with spirit to be declared living


, you're trying to equate this with Adam, when in fact, Adam was already formed COMPLETELY before.

Either completely formed or not. It takes Spirit to activate Life ,and the moment it's gone, death happens ( James 2:26)

So at the point of activation of life for Adam and a Foetus.

What did God gave Adam and a Foetus in the womb to declare them living

- transfer a spirit person

- transfer breath


Well, your analogy is out of point.
God gave every human A SPIRIT and that spirit is a PERSON.

@undrrlined is laughable, so you mean God TRANSFERRED SPIRIT TO ALL BABIES IN THE WOMB including those ENEMIES OF JEHOVAH cheesy cheesy grin grin grin grin

Yes every Baby in the womb get Breath of life from God without it , it's death.

On the other hand , you claim it's a person, I ask again: Do you it it means God transferred a Spirit person inside the womb?
CAPTIVATOR: 3:28pm On Sep 21, 2024
Emusan:


Jesus is not you who can lied.
grin grin grin

So how could Jesus know something only the Father know if they are not same person? That makes Jesus a LIAR!

If Jesus can't lie, do you agree with him that Only the Father know the day and hour ?

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Emusan(m): 3:43pm On Sep 21, 2024
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grin grin grin

So how could Jesus know something only the Father know if they are not same person? That makes Jesus a LIAR!

If Jesus can't lie, do you agree with him that Only the Father know the day and hour ?

I've explained this times without number, stop going back and forth.

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CAPTIVATOR: 3:47pm On Sep 21, 2024
Emusan:


I've explained this times without number, stop going back and forth.

You didn't explain shit , just say you are lost grin grin grin Dunce making Jesus a Liar

So how could Jesus know something only the Father know if they are not same person? That makes Jesus a LIAR!

Its either you agree only the Father knows and Jesus doesn't know or agree Jesus himself lied
Emusan(m): 3:57pm On Sep 21, 2024
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Every death is an absence of spirit. It takes a person with spirit to be declared living

But medical disagree with you.

Dead occurred the moment your heart stopped.

Stop lying.

Either completely formed or not. It takes Spirit to activate Life ,and the moment it's gone, death happens ( James 2:26)

Very ignorance.

The MOMEMT HEART STOPPED, stop saying rubbish.

So at the point of activation of life for Adam and a Foetus.

Always saying waht he has no knowledge abiut when did this ACTIVATION OF LIFE occur in baby?

What did God gave Adam and a Foetus in the womb to declare them living

- transfer a spirit person

- transfer breath

Yes every Baby in the womb get Breath of life from God without it , it's death.

On the other hand , you claim it's a person, I ask again: Do you it it means God transferred a Spirit person inside the womb?

That is what I'm saying, so God transferred SPIRIT TO WOMAN IN THE WOMB.

But He didn't TRANSFERRED TO ADAM cheesy grin cheesy grin grin

God gave every human SPIRIT and that SPIRIT IS A PERSON deal it with, until you proof how inanimate object can have the ability to know THOUGHT.

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Emusan(m): 3:59pm On Sep 21, 2024
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You didn't explain shit , just say you are lost grin grin grin Dunce making Jesus a Liar

So how could Jesus know something only the Father know if they are not same person? That makes Jesus a LIAR!

Its either you agree only the Father knows and Jesus doesn't know or agree Jesus himself lied

Very pathetic.

Jesus KNOWS ALL THINGS

I know this is that you don't want to be in the scripture and the reason you're so pained that the Holy spirit used Apostles to PENNED THAT DOWN.

Reason why you claimed the APOSTLES MADE MISTAKE cheesy grin cheesy grin grin

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CAPTIVATOR: 4:02pm On Sep 21, 2024
Emusan:

But medical disagree with you.
Dead occurred the moment your heart stopped.
Stop lying
Very ignorance.
The MOMEMT HEART STOPPED, stop saying rubbish.

And a Dead person doesn't have Spirit ? Yes. So proving my point , loss of life is an absence of spirit.

Until you can say that a Dead person retain their spirit . You are speaking bullshit.


Always saying waht he has no knowledge abiut when did this ACTIVATION OF LIFE occur in baby?
That is what I'm saying, so God transferred SPIRIT TO WOMAN IN THE WOMB.
But He didn't TRANSFERRED TO ADAM cheesy grin cheesy grin grin
God gave every human SPIRIT and that SPIRIT IS A PERSON deal it with, until you proof how inanimate object can have the ability to know THOUGHT.

He transfered to Adam - Genesis 2:7 , the Bible said an Adam became a Living soul.

The word " BECAME " indicate the final procedure that activated life was the giving of spirit. Without which He can't have life.

What did God gave the Foetus and Adam to BECAME A LIVING

- Spirit person

- Breath.

We are still on this hill.
CAPTIVATOR: 4:03pm On Sep 21, 2024
Emusan:


Very pathetic.

Jesus KNOWS ALL THINGS

I know this is that you don't want to be in the scripture and the reason you're so pained that the Holy spirit used Apostles to PENNED THAT DOWN.

Reason why you claimed the APOSTLES MADE MISTAKE cheesy grin cheesy grin grin

A. Jesus knows all things.

B. Concerning the day and hour , the Son doesn't know, only the Father knows.

One of this statement is a Lie .

Which ?
Emusan(m): 4:07pm On Sep 21, 2024
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Jesus knows all things.

Concerning the day and hour , only the Father knows. ( Meaning Jesus doesn't know)

One of this statement is a Lie

Which?

You see the reason I do say, you people are of your father the Devil.

So Jesus KNOWS ALL THINGS ISN'T FROM GOD'S WORD.

Well, all you need to know I've already explained in more than two pages, you can check it.

But trying to call God's word lie won't stand.
CAPTIVATOR: 4:10pm On Sep 21, 2024
Emusan:


You see the reason I do say, you people are of your father the Devil.

So Jesus KNOWS ALL THINGS ISN'T FROM GOD'S WORD.

Well, all you need to know I've already explained in more than two pages, you can check it.

But trying to call God's word lie won't stand.

Only the Father knows isn't from God's word?

You are really dull.

both Statement CONTRADICT. One is a Lie

Which is a Lie.

Is it

A. Jesus knows all things

B. Only the Father know the day and hour and Jesus doesn't know.

Which?
Emusan(m): 4:17pm On Sep 21, 2024
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And a Dead person doesn't have Spirit ? Yes. So proving my point , loss of life is an absence of spirit.

Now, he wants to be clever by half cheesy cheesy

Yes! A dead person doesn't have SPIRIT because that is what goes to heaven to give .

But you can see that a body LOSSING LIFE is different from SPIRIT ABSENT.

That is why Paul could talk about someone OUT OF BODY.

Until you can say that a Dead person retain their spirit . You are speaking bullshit.

Ignoramus!

I'm tutoring you about SPIRIT and FUNCTIONING OF THE BODY.

He transfered to Adam - Genesis 2:7 , the Bible said an Adam became a Living soul.

The word " BECAME " indicate the final procedure that activated life was the giving of spirit. Without which He can't have life.

It was through ADAM nostrils which means God was present with Adam.

So, you ignorance that God TRANSFERRED to womb is nonsense when you're trying to equate with Adam.

What did God gave the Foetus and Adam to BECAME A LIVING

- Spirit person

- Breath.

We are still on this hill.

God gave every human SPIRIT and that SPIRIT is a person.

How long with it take for you to process this INFORMATION?

VERY DULL.

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Emusan(m): 4:23pm On Sep 21, 2024
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Only the Father knows isn't from God's word?

You are really dull.

both Statement CONTRADICT. One is a LIE

Which is a Lie.

Is it

A. Jesus knows all things

B. Only the Father know the day and hour and Jesus doesn't know.

Which?

The @color part is the key and for a reference.

I know that is not the position of Watchtower but it's evident that you people actually disregard God's word while claiming fake love for Him.

So, to you now believe Bible CONTAINS CONTRADICTION.

There's no low level can't go to just to show case the deed of your father the Devil in you.
Aemmyjah(m): 4:37pm On Sep 21, 2024
Emusan:


The @color part is the key and for a reference.

I know that is not the position of Watchtower but it's evident that you people actually disregard God's word while claiming fake love for Him.

So, to you now believe Bible CONTAINS CONTRADICTION.

There's no low level can't go to just to show case the deed of your father the Devil in you.


Did Jesus said he knows the day and hour the end will come
Yes or No?
CAPTIVATOR: 4:45pm On Sep 21, 2024
Emusan:


The @color part is the key and for a reference.

I know that is not the position of Watchtower but it's evident that you people actually disregard God's word while claiming fake love for Him.

So, to you now believe Bible CONTAINS CONTRADICTION.

There's no low level can't go to just to show case the deed of your father the Devil in you.

EMPTY Misyarn from a man painting Jesus a Liar. The point is this below
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We know both statement cannot be true.

All i want you to do is indicate which one is a lie

A. Jesus know all things

B. Jesus doesn't know the day and hour, ONLY the Father knows

Which is a Lie ? Just indicate. The two doesn't agree.
CAPTIVATOR: 4:57pm On Sep 21, 2024
Emusan:


Now, he wants to be clever by half cheesy cheesy

Yes! A dead person doesn't have SPIRIT because that is what goes to heaven to give .


Oshey, now you are confessing.

It returns to HEAVEN where it came from .
na spirit person from heaven or breath of life ,

Let'ss proceed....


But you can see that a body LOSSING LIFE is different from SPIRIT ABSENT.
That is why Paul could talk about someone OUT OF BODY.
Ignoramus!
I'm tutoring you about SPIRIT and FUNCTIONING OF THE BODY.
It was through ADAM nostrils which means God was present with Adam.
So, you ignorance that God TRANSFERRED to womb is nonsense when you're trying to equate with Adam.

The bible said it's in our nostrils too, just like Adam. Giving strong credence to the Fact that spirit of man is breath of life not a spirit person from above. Focus on " nostrils."

" And the spirit from God is in my nostrils " Job 27:3 God was present with Job in the womb bah

At the point of Giving Job this spirit in his nostrils , he was in the womb of his mother

What did God gave this baby in the womb
God gave a spirit person or breath of life ?






VERY DULL.

Good you describe yourself. At least we have established that this spirit come from God in heaven and return to heaven . What comes from heaven into the womb, a spirit person or breath ?
Jozzy4: 6:08pm On Sep 21, 2024
Emusan:


Now, he wants to be clever by half cheesy cheesy

Yes! A dead person doesn't have SPIRIT because that is what goes to heaven to give .


Wicked men go to heaven when they die since their spirit is a person ? LoooooooLLlll
Assassins, paedophiles , Rapists and the rest are all chilling in heaven right now. Are you this dull?
Jozzy4: 6:32pm On Sep 21, 2024
Aemmyjah:

Did Jesus said he knows the day and hour the end will come
Yes or No?

Lolzz grin
Emusan(m): 3:43pm On Sep 22, 2024
Aemmyjah:
Did Jesus said he knows the day and hour the end will come
Yes or No?

You came late!

Be on the queue

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Emusan(m): 3:53pm On Sep 22, 2024
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EMPTY Misyarn from a man painting Jesus a Liar.

I'm not Jesus disciples in whom Jesus stood in their presence and declared that their Master and God KNOWS ALL THINGS and their Master and God rather than CORRECTING THEM(IF THEY ACTUALLY MADE MISTAKE as YOU enemies of God's word wants to paint it) but went further to ENDORSED THEIR BELIEVE.

The point is this below
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We know both statement cannot be true.

Don't worry you already AFFIRMED THAT BIBLE CONTAINS CONTRADICTION.

All i want you to do is indicate which one is a lie

A. Jesus know all things

B. Jesus doesn't know the day and hour, ONLY the Father knows

Which is a Lie ? Just indicate. The two doesn't agree.

No one is a lie.

I repeat, your in ability not understand Jesus is not anybody's fault.

The same people Jesus stood in their presence and made the above statement are the same people who declared that Jesus KNOWS ALL THINGS in the very presence of Jesus Christ and Jesus didn't rebuke them for saying such heavy profound statement.

Reason you enemies of God's word declared that the Apostles made MISTAKE in the PRESENCE of their Lord and God but you're the one in the right sense to correct them NOT THEIR LORD and not all and claimed BIBLE CONTAINS CONTRADICTION.

Bravo!
Emusan(m): 4:02pm On Sep 22, 2024
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Oshey, now you are confessing.

It returns to HEAVEN where it came from .
na spirit person from heaven or breath of life ,

Let'ss proceed....

Human SPIRIT is a PERSON.

The bible said it's in our nostrils too, just like Adam. Giving strong credence to the Fact that spirit of man is breath of life not a spirit person from above. Focus on " nostrils."

" And the spirit from God is in my nostrils " Job 27:3 God was present with Job in the womb bah

At the point of Giving Job this spirit in his nostrils , he was in the womb of his mother

What did God gave this baby in the womb
God gave a spirit person or breath of life ?

To much ignorance in one post.

So it is SPIRIT people breath in and out cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy cheesy

The dull skull didn't even know baby don't breath like breathing from their nostril in the WOMB.

Good you describe yourself. At least we have established that this spirit come from God in heaven and return to heaven . What comes from heaven into the womb, a spirit person or breath ?

If you just see that as ESTABLISHED then it means you're too blind since.

My point have being God gave every human SPIRIT and that SPIRIT is a person and at death, the spirit returned to God according to the scripture.
Emusan(m): 4:16pm On Sep 22, 2024
Jozzy4:
Wicked men go to heaven when they die since their spirit is a person ? LoooooooLLlll
Assassins, paedophiles , Rapists and the rest are all chilling in heaven right now. Are you this dull?

You have sneak back

Stay on the queue and watch.

The point so far according to you God's word enemies

1. The Apostles made MISTAKE
2. Bible contains CONTRADICTION.

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Jozzy4: 7:51am On Sep 24, 2024
Emusan:


The point so far according to you God's word enemies

According the Emusan who said Jesus lied, Jesus was wrong that only the Father knows.
....... Same Emusan itted Spirit return to heaven , Criminals and assassin's died and return to Heaven since their Spirit is a Person ,

Emusan is an haven of shining ignorance.
CAPTIVATOR: 9:39am On Sep 24, 2024
Emusan:


Human SPIRIT is a PERSON.

Cool! I ask that because you said this

" Yes! A dead person doesn't have SPIRIT because that is what goes to heaven to give . "
Safe to say Wicked persons also go to Heaven when they die ? Yes or No.


To much ignorance in one post.
So it is SPIRIT people breath in and out cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy cheesy
The dull skull didn't even know baby don't breath like breathing from their nostril in the WOMB.

You said initially that

Emusan
It was through ADAM nostrils which means God was present with Adam.
So, you ignorance that God TRANSFERRED to womb is nonsense when you're trying to equate with Adam.

Contrary to your nonsense above, Job 27:3 Equated our been given spirit with Adam. There is presence of Spirit in our nostrils too. Which means without spirit, LIFE DOESN'T EXIST! . For a Baby Job in the womb to be alive 🌞 , he must have Spirit. Since this spirit that signified presence of life in the Baby is a Person, do you it it means a Spirit person from heaven was transfered to the mother's womb?

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Janosky: 9:51am On Sep 24, 2024
Emusan:


Human SPIRIT is a PERSON.



To much ignorance in one post.

So it is SPIRIT people breath in and out cheesy grin cheesy grin cheesy cheesy

The dull skull didn't even know baby don't breath like breathing from their nostril in the WOMB.



If you just see that as ESTABLISHED then it means you're too blind since.

My point have being God gave every human SPIRIT and that SPIRIT is a person and at death, the spirit returned to God according to the scripture.


So your baby & the spirit was living in your wife's womb for nine months?

Dunce Engineer.
Oga ,I go write to your Alma mater to withdraw your degree certificate from Jankara market.

grin grin grin grin
CAPTIVATOR: 9:52am On Sep 24, 2024
Emusan:



No one is a lie.

I repeat, your in ability not understand Jesus is not anybody's fault.



I need to question your education at this point , You said " No one is a Lie"
Any educated person knows both statement cannot be true.

If Jesus knows all things, that means he knows the day and hour, so why did he Lie that the son doesn't know, added another lie this is a knowledge only the Father knows?

The significance of that only .

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