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bemeruca: 1:59pm On Aug 27, 2024
Don Lemon revealed many people do not know what kamala harris is. Even as the media is gaslighting everything they see.
https://twitter.com/BehizyTweets/status/1828268848191242461?t=LmE2wOWx7mJTt5-5o6YLig&s=19
basilico: 1:59pm On Aug 27, 2024
kkins25:
Well well well.. If it isn't "freedom for all" 🤣

@lordreed,

Lie one: Gender is fluid.

Lie two: We don't play dirty politics.

Lie three: *stay tuned.

The frkin bastards have an agenda.
They won't let Trump win..
See Jamie Raskin saying they would not mind a civil war if Trump triumphs.

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bemeruca: 2:03pm On Aug 27, 2024
basilico: 2:03pm On Aug 27, 2024
bemeruca:
Don Lemon revealed many people do not know what kamala harris is. Even as the media is gaslighting everything they see.
https://twitter.com/BehizyTweets/status/1828268848191242461?t=LmE2wOWx7mJTt5-5o6YLig&s=19

She was visibly upset that bleks will vote for Trump.
Hahahaha.
Cringe moment for Jen Psaki.

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bemeruca: 2:03pm On Aug 27, 2024
Wow: Another Israeli hostage has ben rescued from Gaza. Details coming.

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basilico: 2:07pm On Aug 27, 2024
Ladyhippolyta88:

Bold of you to initially assume that any Trump er was an intellectual to begin with.

Thank you..75 million voted for Trump.
Let me take you down the memory lane with Billary.
Trump voters are deplorable.. Irredeemables.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PCHJVE9trSM?si=myHV9DREokb7fxUM

How did that work out.
By the way she talks as if she believes her fantasy.
bemeruca: 2:09pm On Aug 27, 2024
Kamala harris is dumb.
She says one word the repeat that word 10 times in one sentence
https://twitter.com/johnrich/status/1828419012293759139?t=0AsdvaT0_-bVuL3OVx04Wg&s=19

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ono(m): 2:16pm On Aug 27, 2024
bemeruca:


She is part of them. You know, the kind of women that throws themselves on powerful men. How do you think she got to be the VP? Jill Biden should be suspicious of Joe Biden, that dude must have grab kamala by the pvssy.

Thumbs up!

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ono(m): 2:20pm On Aug 27, 2024
basilico:


The frkin bastards have an agenda.
They won't let Trump win..
See Jamie Raskin saying they would not mind a civil war if Trump triumphs.

Wow!!
kkins25(m): 2:22pm On Aug 27, 2024
wirinet:


Shameless liar. Trump is a confirmed rapist.

Trump: "I moved on her actually. You know she was down on Palm Beach. I moved on her, and I failed. I'll it it. I did try and Bleep her, she was married."

Trump: "Yeah that's her with the gold. I better use some Tic Tacs just in case I start kissing her. You know I'm automatically attracted to beautiful... I just start kissing them. It's like a magnet. Just kiss. I don't even wait. And when you're a star they let you do it. You can do anything."

Trump: "Grab them by the pussy. You can do anything."

All the redded parts of the quote fits the classic definition of rape or sexual harassment.

Nope. By your logic, all rappers are confirmed killers.
So, liar one and liar two.

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wirinet(m): 2:23pm On Aug 27, 2024
basilico:


Are you a eunuch or are you castatred? Or were you an altar boy? I've kissed my fair share of frogs.

No I am not an eunuch and I was never a alter boy, in fact I am a known atheist. I have also kissed my fair share of frogs, but that was in my "charming prince" days.


Again how many men have never screwed outside of their marriage and should Trump be a saint when he had all these femme fatales throwing themselves at him.
I have never screwed outside my marriage, and I have been married for more than 15 years. Most of the people I associate with are married and do not screw outside their marriage. My very good friend who us a billionaire lost his wife 2 years ago, he is yet to get over it. His wife's picture is still in all his online profiles. So it's a matter of values or lack of.


What does bedroom antics have to do with leadership..The most promiscuous people are the showbiz people if you didn't know. And the most ired men by very strict well behaved lassies are pastors.
If you can remain faithful to your spouse and family, how will you remain faithful to your community or country? I will not trust any man or woman who cheats on their spouse. If showbiz people are promiscuous, then they should not ge allowed anywhere near governance. Plain and simple. What example will he be setting for the generations that is expected to take over from him.
I left Christianity when I learn first hand that most pastors and their followers are hypocrites. They commit more sins and more wicked than even traditional worshippers. The pretend in the open but bring out their true self in secret.

I have no stats to back that up ,it's just a by the way.
Then you should stop promoting conjectures and personal opinions.
wirinet(m): 2:28pm On Aug 27, 2024
kkins25:


Nope. By your logic, all rappers are confirmed killers.
So, liar one and liar two.
Not all rappers, only those that have been found liable of murder by a competent court, just like O. J. Simpson.
LordReed(m): 2:30pm On Aug 27, 2024
kkins25:
Well well well.. If it isn't "freedom for all" 🤣

@lordreed,

Lie one: Gender is fluid.

Lie two: We don't play dirty politics.

Lie three: *stay tuned.

What has gender got to do with this Facebook story?
wirinet(m): 2:33pm On Aug 27, 2024
kkins25:


Nope. By your logic, all rappers are confirmed killers.
So, liar one and liar two.
That's because for criminal conviction, there is the added legal hurdle of proving beyond "reasonable" doubt. So just one technicality can create a reasonable doubt no matter the preponderance of evidence.
In the case of O.J. Simpson, all evidence pointed to him being responsible for the murder, its was the glove that did not fit that created reasonable doubt in the criminal case.

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LordReed(m): 2:33pm On Aug 27, 2024
basilico:


The frkin bastards have an agenda.
They won't let Trump win..
See Jamie Raskin saying they would not mind a civil war if Trump triumphs.

Direct quote or link, I don't take yours or Beck's word for it.
kkins25(m): 2:37pm On Aug 27, 2024
EnlightenedUFO:


You are soooo sucked up in the right wing bubble. There's nothing in the real world that makes any sense to you.

Longtime prominent Kennedy democrat? Get lost bro. You think voters are dumb and don't know who rfk jr truly is? There's never been a positive report about the man and as we getting to know him and people speaking up about him, I don't think he is the kind of "democrat" you think we adore.

It seems both camps using the same weapon against each other. 😁.. Meaning, of both parties have links with Jeffrey... Awwwnnn...

basilico: 2:39pm On Aug 27, 2024
IjeBos:


You're a beyond stupid person. Try researching and using what little mind you do have.


So RFK Jr does not merit SS protection. Despite credible threats to his life. Ya inflating a balloon
basilico: 2:47pm On Aug 27, 2024
kkins25:


Nope. By your logic, all rappers are confirmed killers.
So, liar one and liar two.

He has sued that weasel short man syndrome sufferer George Stephanopoulos of NBC for defamation in Florida.
Judge ruled that the case should not be dismissed..George will pay Trump with the help of his inheritance hopefully. He said Trump is a rapist live on TV while the fuvked up jury found him liable of sexual violation not rape.Poor George. The Trump curse is real.

https://edition.cnn.com/2024/07/24/media/trump-lawsuit-abc-george-stephanopoulos-rape-claim/index.html
basilico: 2:54pm On Aug 27, 2024
wirinet:

No I am not an eunuch and I was never a alter boy, in fact I am a known atheist. I have also kissed my fair share of frogs, but that was in my "charming prince" days.

I have never screwed outside my marriage, and I have been married for more than 15 years. Most of the people I associate with are married and do not screw outside their marriage. My very good friend who us a billionaire lost his wife 2 years ago, he is yet to get over it. His wife's picture is still in all his online profiles. So it's a matter of values or lack of.

If you can remain faithful to your spouse and family, how will you remain faithful to your community or country? I will not trust any man or woman who cheats on their spouse. If showbiz people are promiscuous, then they should not ge allowed anywhere near governance. Plain and simple. What example will he be setting for the generations that is expected to take over from him.
I left Christianity when I learn first hand that most pastors and their followers are hypocrites. They commit more sins and more wicked than even traditional worshippers. The pretend in the open but bring out their true self in secret.

Then you should stop promoting conjectures and personal opinions.

Get this chastity belt from China.
Give your wife the keys. Hermit.
Next image is a girly belt too. She gives you the key.
When You are among men like me You can fond.le the belt and use toilet provided tissue to self-service .
You can have all the peace , the intrinsic secrets you will share both of you collectively.
I don't suffer fools.

Mods don't ban me. please.
Vote for the Pope .

IjeBos(m): 2:58pm On Aug 27, 2024
kkins25:


This would be true if the woman was aborting the baby by herself and with no from society whatsoever.
No lady can independently abort the baby because she still needs the medical equipment and emotional of society. Society has to invest funds and man hours to develop the safest route for the procedure.

Therefore, like my "wish for drug" example, her autonomy to self infringes on the society's autonomy to refuse her request.

When I say bodily autonomy is the ultimate freedom. I mean it should be even greater than the freedoms in our Bill of Rights. So, take the freedom of Speech. Government can't regulate speech unless under certain circumstances. Aside: Think about that, people want you to believe you have an absolute right to say what you want but you do not have the right to control the thing saying those words.
Anyhow because of that right I don't think the government can regulate who helps you with an abortion. The government can regulate goods for the public good/patient harm. What would be the public good/patient harm in this case that would Trump your own fredoms? And if 'society/government' stopped investing in these goods. Ok. I'm sure there are people who are comfortable doing so that would continue to.

As for the drug example. Yes, the government does have a vested interest in regulating certain drugs for the "public good"/patient harm, can't have super wasted people driving cars etc etc or drugs that kill 90% of the people that use them that people think are safe. But, I can make an argument that there should be limits to that as well. And I think that's changing. Even Trump signed a law allowing the use of experimental treatments to terminally ill patients.

kkins25:


Consequently, it exposes the falsehood in the claim that "autonomy with respect to body is/should be absolute." Ideally, it sounds plausible, but when you "touch grass" it's not.

Another problem that arises from your argument is the subjective view of autonomy. It's not properly defined. A 1 month old baby is still fully dependent on the mother and society and cannot cater for itself.

It's safe to say it isn't autonomous, just like someone with complete paralysis is also dependent on society to cater to their needs. Can we, based on the claim that self-maintainance equates autonomy, "remove" individuals who aren't capable of fending for themselves since they aren't autonomous?

How society views the fetus is indeed relevant. Society is made up of people who were, once upon a time, fetuses themselves. Another example, society always mourns the death of a pregnant woman even more because that's two deaths.

In scientific community, the extraction of stem cells from said fetuses is blanketed with controversy.In fact, the practise of harveting embryonic stem cells is considered unethical. We must now ask, why does society, on one hand recognize the person hood of the embryo and, on the other, dismisses the personhood of same embryo. The answer is politics!

Let's randezvous back to pregnancy. The news of pregnancy, from a societal standpoint, is worth celebrating---It signifies continuity. Flip the coin: the loss of pregnancy can be devastating. Why does something that seems so insignificant cause so much impact?

So, yes, contrary to your claim, society cares a whole lot about fetuses. So much so, that there's a whole science about it.

Just to quickly follow up
1.) It's a longer discussion of Bodily Autonomy than I want to have. But I think at the minimum to have Bodily autonomy you can not be inside the body of someone else.
2.) How society views the fetus and how society feels pregnant women are again irrelevant. You're feelings/views don't matter when it comes to my rights. I can call you an ugly idiot, which could upset you, but would that matter as to my right to Free Speech? Why then would your feelings matter to my right of freedom of bodily decisions?
bemeruca: 3:04pm On Aug 27, 2024
IjeBos:


When I say bodily autonomy is the ultimate freedom. I mean it should be even greater than the freedoms in our Bill of Rights. So, take the freedom of Speech. Government can't regulate speech unless under certain circumstances. Aside: Think about that, people want you to believe you have an absolute right to say what you want but you do not have the right to control the thing saying those words.
Anyhow because of that right I don't think the government can regulate who helps you with an abortion. The government can regulate goods for the public good/patient harm. What would be the public good/patient harm in this case that would Trump your own fredoms? And if 'society/government' stopped investing in these goods. Ok. I'm sure there are people who are comfortable doing so that would continue to.

As for the drug example. Yes, the government does have a vested interest in regulating certain drugs for the "public good"/patient harm, can't have super wasted people driving cars etc etc or drugs that kill 90% of the people that use them that people think are safe. But, I can make an argument that there should be limits to that as well. And I think that's changing. Even Trump signed a law allowing the use of experimental treatments to terminally ill patients.



Just to quickly follow up
1.) It's a longer discussion of Bodily Autonomy than I want to have. But I think at the minimum to have Bodily autonomy you can not be inside the body of someone else.
2.) How society views the fetus and how society feels pregnant women are again irrelevant. You're feelings/views don't matter when it comes to my rights. I can call you an ugly idiot, which could upset you, but would that matter as to my right to Free Speech? Why then would your feelings matter to my right of freedom of bodily decisions?

Says the guys angry at Musk for buying Twitter to allow free speech.

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IjeBos(m): 3:08pm On Aug 27, 2024
basilico:


Get this chastity belt from China.
Give your wife the keys. Hermit.
Next image is a girly belt too. She gives you the key.
When You are among men like me You can fond.le the belt and use toilet provided tissue to self-service .
You can have all the peace , the intrinsic secrets you will share both of you collectively.
I don't suffer fools.

Mods don't ban me. please.
Vote for the Pope .

You really are an incel.
Men who have s$x reguarly don't sound like you.
IjeBos(m): 3:11pm On Aug 27, 2024
bemeruca:


Dude, leave his daughters out of this. Do you show your children everything you do?

Very odd post for you. When have you left anyone's family, real or imagined, out of anything?
Do as I say not as I do.
bemeruca: 3:14pm On Aug 27, 2024
IjeBos:


Very odd post for you. When have you left anyone's family, real or imagined, out of anything?
Do as I say not as I do.

Get a GF first then come let's talk

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kkins25(m): 3:18pm On Aug 27, 2024
LordReed:


What has gender got to do with this Facebook story?

Are you trying to draw out patterns where I have not?
kkins25(m): 3:24pm On Aug 27, 2024
bemeruca:


Says the guys angry at Musk for buying Twitter to allow free speech.

Yeah right... It's always the double standards.. IjeBos, those my free speech give me the right to make racial slurs? Can I defame other people on same ? Come on bruv.. Your arguments are implying "freedom for me, not you."

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kkins25(m): 3:36pm On Aug 27, 2024
IjeBos:

Just to quickly follow up
1.) It's a longer discussion of Bodily Autonomy than I want to have. But I think at the minimum to have Bodily autonomy you can not be inside the body of someone else.
2.) How society views the fetus and how society feels pregnant women are again irrelevant. You're feelings/views don't matter when it comes to my rights. I can call you an ugly idiot, which could upset you, but would that matter as to my right to Free Speech? Why then would your feelings matter to my right of freedom of bodily decisions?

2) how society views the fetus is important. Because, wether you like it or not, societal views significantly impacts every individual and determines what laws society operates by.

You can call me an "idiot," and I have the right to drag you to court. If society finds calling someone an "idiot" as harmful, then I can accuse you of breaking the law. The feelings of society matter because based on those feelings, we formulate laws. Unless, you're on the ten commandment ship, you should know empathy, sympathy played a huge role in how as a species our laws came to be.

Take this quote

Stoic philosophers developed the idea of equality. Jefferson was but followinig the Stoic way when he held it ‘self-evident that “all men are created equal. John Locke best expressed that sentiment:

The state of nature has a law of nature to govern it, and reason which is that law teaches all mankind who will but consult it that, being all equal and independent . . . born to the same advantages of nature and use of the same faculties . . . no one ought to harm another in his life, health, liberty or possessions.

The Stoics thought in of duties, the duty to respect others. John Locke spoke of Rights - the Rights men possess, mainly the right to live and let live


If society views the fetus as "another" then killing said fetus is a crime.

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IjeBos(m): 3:43pm On Aug 27, 2024
kkins25:


Yeah right... It's always the double standards.. IjeBos, those my free speech give me the right to make racial slurs? Can I defame other people on same ? Come on bruv.. Your arguments are implying "freedom for me, not you."


1.) THe Bill of RIghts talks about what freedoms the Government can't en. Again, freedom of speech does not extend to private enterprise. Twitter before Musk had rules and structures in place to police speech to make the platform an inclusive place for speech. In the Musk era, those structures are gone. Musk will nilly decides which Speech he removes and he does remove speech and still bans s. Now it's basically the bad actors digitally shouting over everyone else. That has disrupted and chilled the openness of the speech and the usefulness of the platform.
2.) Unfortunately, it is legal to make racial slurs.
3.) Defaming someone is causing injury to someone else. You can be sued civilly for that.

You should probably understand this stuff before accusing someone of double standards.
basilico: 3:44pm On Aug 27, 2024
IjeBos:


You really are an incel.
Men who have s$x reguarly don't sound like you.

I don't have gay sex
IjeBos(m): 3:46pm On Aug 27, 2024
basilico:


I don't have gay sex

Truthfully, you sound as if you did have sex, it would be gay sex.
Your very odd posts reads like a repressed person who fantasizes about homosexual sex.
basilico: 3:53pm On Aug 27, 2024
IjeBos:


Truthfully, you sound as if you did have sex, it would be gay sex.
Your very odd posts reads like a repressed person who fantasizes about homosexual sex.

Gay sex.Leave it to your hero Obama

Another home run I've hit.

https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/love-sex/obama-gay-love-letter-men-b2406683.html

IjeBos(m): 3:56pm On Aug 27, 2024
kkins25:


2) how society views the fetus is important. Because, wether you like it or not, societal views significantly impacts every individual and determines what laws society operates by.

You can call me an "idiot," and I have the right to drag you to court. If society finds calling someone an "idiot" as harmful, then I can accuse you of breaking the law. The feelings of society matter because based on those feelings, we formulate laws. Unless, you're on the ten commandment ship, you should know empathy, sympathy played a huge role in how as a species our laws came to be.

Take this quote

Stoic philosophers developed the idea of equality. Jefferson was but followinig the Stoic way when he held it ‘self-evident that “all men are created equal. John Locke best expressed that sentiment:

The state of nature has a law of nature to govern it, and reason which is that law teaches all mankind who will but consult it that, being all equal and independent . . . born to the same advantages of nature and use of the same faculties . . . no one ought to harm another in his life, health, liberty or possessions.

The Stoics thought in of duties, the duty to respect others. John Locke spoke of Rights - the Rights men possess, mainly the right to live and let live


If society views the fetus as "another" then killing said fetus is a crime.

That is the point of the term unalienable rights which is in the Declaration of Independence. That people have certain rights which the government was created to protect, that can't be taken away and that is independent of what anyone else says. I believe that Bodily autonomy is one of those rights.

So, if a right is unalienable, it doesn't matter what anyone else thinks about it.

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