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sharpsecret: 8:35am On Jul 01, 2024
helpee:
How? South east has never ed SW. There is nothing to pay back. Before you say thrash let me tell you history


1) SE voted against Awolowo (let us agree ekwueme your son was the VP of shagari so you tribalisticaly voted your son).

2) They voted against Abiola despite his worldwide appeal. Abiola won only Anambra and Tofa won three states in the east.

2) SE voted against Olu falae, the Yoruba candidate ( The lies your people used to tell themselves is that they voted A yoruba man,Obasanjo. The truth is that they had no choice. only two yoruba candidates on the ballot.

3) They Voted against TINUBU.


Finally, South east has always VOTED PDP because the party was founded by EKWUEME before the alliance of 1999. They assumed that EKWUEME had the best chance of becoming president eventually through that party.


South west is not expecting any pay back from south east. We have never been In political alliance. It is not going to change anytime soon
you forgot obasanjo in your list
VillagePipu: 8:40am On Jul 01, 2024
Ojuntana:

Do you know the home you came from?
So that I can send you to them properly

Go ask your mother.
helpee(m): 8:44am On Jul 01, 2024
sharpsecret:
you forgot obasanjo in your list
Maybe you should take your time and read it again...this time around, slowly. Read the part where I talked about Falae
sharpsecret: 8:50am On Jul 01, 2024
helpee:

Maybe you should take your time and read it again...this time around, slowly. Read the part where I talked about Falae
you agreed we voted against olu falae but you didn’t agree we voted obasanjo.,make I just take am say Igbo no vote 1999 according to you.,Now my question is which Igbo has Yoruba ever ed in the polls?
sparko1(m): 8:55am On Jul 01, 2024
OredoPikin:

You have been active on nairaland like nairaland is Anambra state🤣🤣
Any man can open any stupid topic on nairaland and it will be pushed to front page without verification.
Statistics are there. Today Anambra is best in education because of his work there.
Anambra was declared the most secured state by a PDP appointed IG of police when he obi was still in APGA and the nation newspaper own by Tinubu carried that news
In of HDI, GDP and every recognizable indices of measuring development, he dust everyone before and after him since 1999
In of transparency, he remain the only governor to step aside and allowed external auditors to audit the state finances

The only reason u all hate him is because he is igbo
If Obi had come from the North, or even South west, he would be your god

Can you just show the metrics, I don't care what you think of me or whatever you uncooked thought are.

The most important metric, is the metrics of the people living in Anambra during his governance, so yeah if you were still a child I don't care if call me tribalist, only those that lived through it can decide.

I mentioned Nairaland because, in the years leading to his final term in office there was a poll, Nairaland was a much better place, people speak objectively and there were less childish banter as can be seen from you.

Smartcitizen: 9:25am On Jul 01, 2024
AdesegunSanni89:
See mugu. Now Tinubu is in power. No more saboteurs like Buhari, Osinbajo, Emefiele and co. like 2023. I can assure you that Obi will not get up to 2 million votes in 2027.


🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

That's where we PIN you people down at the HOT GATES!

You will be so disappointed that the Obi you are looking for will never even contest the next election.

Una go see una match and cry blood.

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Ojuntana: 10:24am On Jul 01, 2024
VillagePipu:


Go ask your mother.
Do you know where your mother is so I can send you to her?
Iceberg3: 10:31am On Jul 01, 2024
airsaylongcome:


It's going to be terribly painful if fifth columnists in the south sabotage that Regionalism move. If that's the only thing Jaga accomplishes, it will be worth it
Bro we in the south are good at one thing, sabotaging one another especially a certain annoying people.
The north definitely are already having secret meetings and consultations and money is gonna exchange and they got the money...but what are we southerners doing, absolutely nothing!!! We are fighting eachother everyday...open any thread about happenings in the east and see how the ronus people turn the whole place to a pig sty!!!!
A thread about an Igbo man who committed suicide yesterday was turned into an Igbo attack thread over nothing!!! Tinubu is the president but everyday you see these annoying people with their Peter Obi this,ipob that!!!
If the southern bass are bold enough to present the regionalism bill,it will be very ok but it will definitely get to voice votes and things like that and I can assure you that the north has been preparing and making plans for that secretly while we continue to fool ourselves here in the south.
OredoPikin: 10:33am On Jul 01, 2024
sparko1:


Can you just show the metrics, I don't care what you think of me or whatever you uncooked thought are.

The most important metric, is the metrics of the people living in Anambra during his governance, so yeah if you were still a child I don't care if call me tribalist, only those that lived through it can decide.

I mentioned Nairaland because, in the years leading to his final term in office there was a poll, Nairaland was a much better place, people speak objectively and there were less childish banter as can be seen from you.
lolz
that u are using nairaland post as a basics for ur argument is really laughable and makes u sound like a child grin
Anyone can create a moniker with any name and claim any place just to spread misinformation.

https://mediatracnet.com/2022/09/the-parable-of-the-talents-bat-of-lagos-vs-po-of-anambra/
statistics are there for you my brother and it doesnt lie
helpee(m): 10:49am On Jul 01, 2024
sharpsecret:
you agreed we voted against olu falae but you didn’t agree we voted obasanjo.,make I just take am say Igbo no vote 1999 according to you.,Now my question is which Igbo has Yoruba ever ed in the polls?
Maybe when we have only two Igbos on the ballot like 1999 and no other candidate, we can tell you which Igbo we voted for.

Secondly, na you say you wan pay back. I didn't promise you I want to vote any Igbo. You have never voted for us and you say you want to pay back.
sparko1(m): 11:06am On Jul 01, 2024
OredoPikin:

lolz
that u are using nairaland post as a basics for ur argument is really laughable and makes u sound like a child grin
Anyone can create a moniker with any name and claim any place just to spread misinformation.

https://mediatracnet.com/2022/09/the-parable-of-the-talents-bat-of-lagos-vs-po-of-anambra/
statistics are there for you my brother and it doesnt lie

This is how you recognise a child, a governor of 2007 receiving a glowing recommendation in 2022, I mean how do you explain this, are you this dumb or you just way to act this way.

You want to show statistics, show me something from 2010, 2011, 2013.

That post wasn't alone, it wasn't an argument, someone included Peter Obi in the Poll for best performing governor and that was one of the response, the person in question was so abhorred by the idea that he was angry at how ridiculous it was.

Here is another! Like I said the most important statistics is the poll conducted by people of legal age living in Anambra not some media story to raise awareness.

OredoPikin: 11:15am On Jul 01, 2024
sparko1:


This is how you recognise a child, a governor of 2007 receiving a glowing recommendation in 2022, I mean how do you explain this, are you this dumb or you just way to act this way.

You want to show statistics, show me something from 2010, 2011, 2013.

That post wasn't alone, it wasn't an argument, someone included Peter Obi in the Poll for best performing governor and that was one of the response, the person in question was so abhorred by the idea that he was angry at how ridiculous it was.

Here is another! Like I said the most important statistics is the poll conducted by people of legal age living in Anambra not some media story to raise awareness.
lolz
did u even read at all

we are talking of raw global data not people's opinion
are u an illiterate?
sparko1(m): 11:22am On Jul 01, 2024
OredoPikin:

lolz
did u even read at all

we are talking of raw global data not people's opinion
are u an illiterate?

RAW?cheesy GLOBAL DATA! cheesy

So they somehow discovered his accomplishment after 10 years and that is somehow RAW grin

The fact that you included the word RAW in that statement is the most ridiculous thing you have ever said.

So somehow someone who can read and write is an illiterate?
OredoPikin: 11:44am On Jul 01, 2024
sparko1:


RAW?cheesy GLOBAL DATA! cheesy

So they somehow discovered his accomplishment after 10 years and that is somehow RAW grin

The fact that you included the word RAW in that statement is the most ridiculous thing you have ever said.

So somehow someone who can read and write is an illiterate?
Eyah
Now i know you are an illiterate

I expected u to read but look at u disgracing yourself and showing how badly educated u are.
The link i shared was an article by someone in 2022, he extracted his data from global data lab based in Netherland which has been keeping world data since 2003

Omo
Na olodo full here aswear 🤣🤣🤣🤣

I know many of u only hate Obi because of his tribe, not that u know anything or ready to know anything about him

Ozuor
SAMTOBIJU(m): 11:50am On Jul 01, 2024
Zxcvbnmghtr:
No smart politician makes such an early move. Smart politicians are invisible.

God Bless You....have been looking for this type of comments...More reason they will loose because he too will be ready for them

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sparko1(m): 12:08pm On Jul 01, 2024
OredoPikin:

Eyah
Now i know you are an illiterate

I expected u to read but look at u disgracing yourself and showing how badly educated u are.
The link i shared was an article by someone in 2022, he extracted his data from global data lab based in Netherland which has been keeping world data since 2003

Omo
Na olodo full here aswear 🤣🤣🤣🤣

I know many of u only hate Obi because of his tribe, not that u know anything or ready to know anything about him
Û
Ozuor

Your inferiority complex is alarming, so because the data was collected in Netherland it must be right, I don't have time for this, wallow in your ignorance.
OredoPikin: 12:13pm On Jul 01, 2024
sparko1:


Your inferiority complex is alarming, so because the data was collected in Netherland it must be right, I don't have time for this, wallow in your ignorance.
Inferiority complex🙄🙄🙄
Guy u need to go back to school aswear

I expected u to bring a contrary data to show us that the ones global world lab collected and kept is fake
But here u are🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️
sparko1(m): 12:58pm On Jul 01, 2024
OredoPikin:

Inferiority complex🙄🙄🙄
Guy u need to go back to school aswear

I expected u to bring a contrary data to show us that the ones global world lab collected and kept is fake
But here u are🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

Like I said, I am not responsible for your education, wallow in ignorance.
OredoPikin: 1:07pm On Jul 01, 2024
sparko1:


Like I said, I am not responsible for your education, wallow in ignorance.
🤣🤣🤣
A bloody ignorant tribal bigot. See as i just exposed you😁
And na u dey try rob obi into the same mud with Tinubu and Atiku 🤣
Bring data now, u dey shaleye
ENIKURE
uche393: 2:25pm On Jul 01, 2024
if they pressure Tinubu too much, he might divide Nigeria make every body rest
senatordave1(m): 3:27pm On Jul 01, 2024
airsaylongcome:


I have been reading the back and forth over BAT loosing Lagos. Your response is the highlight for me. It's okay to loose some fights, ensure the war is won. I no be Jaga fan o, but I doff my hat for his sagacity

This is just classic strategy, calculations and permutations.world class strategists plan long term and are not blinded by what is in front but broad and future battles.you don't need to win every battle or always have your way as doing so can destroy your chances of winning a war.look at Game of Thrones where Lord Lannister lost all the battles against Robb Stark but won the war through dirty real politics..even in the American revolution, Gen Washington lost most battles esp against Gen Henry Clinton and started avoiding him until the French forces under Rochambeau and De grasse arrived and he defeated the British at Yorktown ending the war..

I never liked Tinubu,I preferred osibanjo or any easterner but after a careful evaluation,I discovered that only Tinubu can win for APC.in his journey to Aso rock,Tinubu lost some battles which I believed were at times intentional to receive his rivals.when it mattered most during the primaries,he rubbished his enemies.obi and Atiku are bad strategists
senatordave1(m): 3:29pm On Jul 01, 2024
OredoPikin:

lolz
that u are using nairaland post as a basics for ur argument is really laughable and makes u sound like a child grin
Anyone can create a moniker with any name and claim any place just to spread misinformation.

https://mediatracnet.com/2022/09/the-parable-of-the-talents-bat-of-lagos-vs-po-of-anambra/
statistics are there for you my brother and it doesnt lie

The entire pdp in etsako west ward 11 APC
tunjilana: 3:40pm On Jul 01, 2024
Bobloco:


Tinubu created this mess. He removed subsidy, and floated the naira which got us to this sorry state we have found ourselves

Do you even know how that subsidy was maintained. The previous govt was borrowing to maintain it and using future crude sales as collateral.

Official dollar rate and parallel market was about 70% different with people profiting left right center.

While the country is in a big mess, it is important not to myopically allow people who have nothing to offer to come here to claim messiahs. Suffer no dey tire una...
tunjilana: 3:43pm On Jul 01, 2024
Blazetrailer:
Imagine the stupidity of this one.? Where dis your Tinubu take the currency to? Someone that has been preparing for a job for years.

I am from the southwest and I any gathering to drive that inept and inco.petemt fake ant and drug sniffer off that seat.







Driving out is fine but who are you replacing him with.

U obviously don't learn. U drove GEJ for Buhari , he messed up everything. Someone else is here now, still yet to recover from the mess created...u are now thinking of replacing him with the same caliber of people who caused the mess....make it make sense...

Southerners don't learn
tunjilana: 3:44pm On Jul 01, 2024
helpee:
Maybe when we have only two Igbos on the ballot like 1999 and no other candidate, we can tell you which Igbo we voted for.

Secondly, na you say you wan pay back. I didn't promise you I want to vote any Igbo. You have never voted for us and you say you want to pay back.

If you see GEJ as one of yours then yorubas voted for him...just a reminder
tunjilana: 3:46pm On Jul 01, 2024
YoshihideSuga:


Who ed Buhari in 2015?

So it is all about bitterness against the realities of the options bn sold to you.

Dey play o.
helpee(m): 4:10pm On Jul 01, 2024
tunjilana:


If you see GEJ as one of yours then yorubas voted for him...just a reminder
We don't consider south south as Igbos. You have your five states. We will vote a reasonable Igbo too at the right time ( definitely not the next election) if they seek alliance with us and if there is no better candidate.

We have voted everyone in Nigeria that we believe is good for the country at any point in time. ONLY IGBOS HAVE CONSIDERED THEMSELVES TO BE ENEMIES when we have nothing personal against them but that is their business.

Once again, you were the one that started by saying you wanted to pay back . I only reminded you that you have no such leverage. You never voted us anyway and we don't expect you to vote for us next election. INFACT, YOU HAVE REALLY OPENED THE EYES of Yorubas to tribalism over the attack on the tribe post 2023. You won't understand until 2027.

Nevertheless, this is politics. At the right time with the right candidate and with a mutual alliance, we will vote Igbo if needed.
Bobloco: 4:22pm On Jul 01, 2024
tunjilana:


Do you even know how that subsidy was maintained. The previous govt was borrowing to maintain it and using future crude sales as collateral.

Official dollar rate and parallel market was about 70% different with people profiting left right center.

While the country is in a big mess, it is important not to myopically allow people who have nothing to offer to come here to claim messiahs. Suffer no dey tire una...

But the Tinubu istration have borrowed more money even when they are not paying subsidy. Besides, we were also told that money will be saved from subsidy removal. Where is the money?
phemray(m): 4:22pm On Jul 01, 2024
Bobloco:


So Tinubu lost lagos because of religion. What you are implying is that there are more Christians than Muslims in Lagos, and the Christians chose Peter Obi over Tinubu, their former governor, who built the state from scratch.

Ok, what about Osun State, which he lost to the PDP? Are there more Christians in Osun State?

In the governorship election, the APC was able to win through the unleashing of Emilokan ethnic tribal politics, ethnic bigots, thugs, hoodlums, and agberos, who in turn engaged in rigging, oppression, vote suppression, and destruction of lives and properties of people believed wouldn't vote for the APC.

In a free, fair, and democratic electoral process, the APC would have lost woefully in Lagos State.

You must be living on another planet, because if you are on planet Earth, you won't be mentioning competence in the same sentence as Tinubu. Not after what he has turned the economy of this country into in just one year. You can't compare Peter Obi with Tinubu in of competence. Peter Obi has no rival. In fact, you can't compare Buhari with Tinubu in of integrity, competence, or capacity to perform. Buhari towers high and above Tinubu in all ramifications.

I can see you don't really understand the 3 men you mentioned in of capacity to lead and take bold decisions. All of them have results in Thier different engagements till date and it's clear to everyone on Tinubu massive achievements in decision making in private, public and politically. It's not necessary you like him. Obi can't even have a small political party or grow anyone because he didn't know anything about leadership, him and mbadinuju are the worse government of anambra by performance. But anyway, nigerians knows who is Tinubu an love him. Yes the policies are necessary but painful. he took it when others ran away from it. Las Las and very soon you will good nigerians in celebration of Tinubu istration success.
Blazetrailer: 4:26pm On Jul 01, 2024
Southerners learn what? Southern solidarity my foot!!
I dont care about Region. Buhari was a far better manager of the economy than this inept there now.
Replace with any rational being.
I'm sure any rational thinking person will be a better option than someone who makes decisions on his whims.


tunjilana:



Driving out is fine but who are you replacing him with.

U obviously don't learn. U drove GEJ for Buhari , he messed up everything. Someone else is here now, still yet to recover from the mess created...u are now thinking of replacing him with the same caliber of people who caused the mess....make it make sense...

Southerners don't learn
tunjilana: 4:27pm On Jul 01, 2024
helpee:
We don't consider south south as Igbos. You have your five states. We will vote a reasonable Igbo too at the right time ( definitely not the next election) if they seek alliance with us and if there is no better candidate.

We have voted everyone in Nigeria that we believe is good for the country at any point in time. ONLY IGBOS HAVE CONSIDERED THEMSELVES TO BE ENEMIES when we have nothing personal against them but that is their business.

Once again, you were the one that started by saying you wanted to pay back . I only reminded you that you have no such leverage. You never voted us anyway and we don't expect you to vote for us next election. INFACT, YOU HAVE REALLY OPENED THE EYES of Yorubas to tribalism over the attack on the tribe post 2023. You won't understand until 2027.

Nevertheless, this is politics. At the right time with the right candidate and with a mutual alliance, we will vote Igbo if needed.


You guys never got to the point where u were a significant challenger in an election where there is no significant interest on the part of yoruba people and we overlooked you to go northwards but surprisingly u guys have always gone northwards and even in 1999 when there was no northerner u still decided to pick the candidate that the North loved among the 2 yoruba contenders.


In 1979/83 you even overlooked your own Azikiwe to vote for Shagari. Same as when Ojukwu contested. I am 100 percent sure that if the Igbos present a sellable, formidable candidate in anelectiom year where yorubas have no serious dog in the fight. Yorubas will lovingly vote such a candidate especially if the Northern candidate is not deemed to be as competent as the igbo candidate but u guys, even in the face of competence, you will still vote a northern candidate.

You did it against Awolowo to vote Shagari...you did it against Abiola to vote for Tofa (3 out of the 4 eastern states in 1993 voted for Tofa).

The first and only time yorubas aligned with the North and left the opposition shadow to come mainstream was in 2015. But u guys have bn doing it since 1959 when Zik aligned with Balewa to form the central govt even when Awolowo was willing to work with Zik for both of them to get majority and form the central govt.

The Igbo-yoruba political alliance to identify and present a formidable and great candidate is crucial to Nigeria's growth, but it will likely never happen and the North knows how to play with that divide to perpetuate power. And if their candidate messes things up, by the time power comes back to the south they will scream about the problems on ground without talking about the root cause while the other half of the south aligns with them to get them back in power. That is the game for 2027 and u are about to be used again
helpee(m): 4:29pm On Jul 01, 2024
tunjilana:



You guys never got to the point where u were a significant challenger in an election where there is no significant interest on the part of yoruba people and we overlooked you to go northwards but surprisingly u guys have always gone northwards and even in 1999 when there was no northerner u still decided to pick the candidate that the North loved among the 2 yoruba contenders.


In 1979/83 you even overlooked your own Azikiwe to vote for Shagari. Same as when Ojukwu contested. I am 100 percent sure that if the Igbos present a sellable, formidable candidate in anelectiom year where yorubas have no serious dog in the fight. Yorubas will lovingly vote such a candidate especially if the Northern candidate is not deemed to be as competent as the igbo candidate but u guys, even in the face of competence, you will still vote a northern candidate.

You did it against Awolowo to vote Shagari...you did it against Abiola to vote for Tofa (3 out of the 4 eastern states in 1993 voted for Tofa).

The first and only time yorubas aligned with the North and left the opposition shadow to come mainstream was in 2015. But u guys have bn doing it since 1959 when Zik aligned with Balewa to form the central govt even when Awolowo was willing to work with Zik for both of them to get majority and form the central govt.

The Igbo-yoruba political alliance to identify and present a formidable and great candidate is crucial to Nigeria's growth, but it will likely never happen and the North knows how to play with that divide to perpetuate power. And if their candidate messes things up, by the time power comes back to the south they will scream about the problems on ground without talking about the root cause while the other half of the south aligns with them to get them back in power. That is the game for 2027 and u are about to be used again
Come o. You are quoting the wrong person.

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