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MaxInDHouse:


I told you they don't understand God's word.

Imagine Bible say the poor he is equating it to beggar but ask him if he wish to be a beggar or any member of his family to be a beggar he will say "God forbid"

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Westerhoffe:



There is a difference between Hell and The Lake of Fire.

In Hell:
Hell is a place of banishment from the reach of the mercies of GOD to all souls who have been corrupted while they were on earth as a living soul.

GOD does not oversee the tortures of Hell because the demons in Hell, the fallen angels banished into Hell are those tormenting the images of the GOD who banished them therein.

It is like being sent as a newbie to a prison filled with hardened criminals who already have resentments against your dad for stripping them of their honor and glory and locking them up there.

They have control over the human souls there, while the human souls have no power over them whatsoever.
Speaking from personal experiences.

The Lake of Fire:
The Lake of Fire is much more punitive compared to Hell, as the Lake of Fire will swallow up both death and Hell and all creatures GOD will not need in the New Earth.

It is a furnace of eternal consumption and destruction.

So, Lake of fire is Hell 2.0.

Hmmm! So, if hell is a place of torment, what did Jesus go to do there?
Why did the righteous man job prayed to go there and REST until God will call him?

TruthHurts100:


So, Lake of fire is Hell 2.0.

Hmmm! So, if hell is a place of torment, what did Jesus go to do there?
Why did the righteous man job prayed to go there and REST until God will call him?

No you're misquoting him this is what he said:

Westerhoffe:

Hell is a place of banishment from the reach of the mercies of GOD to all souls who have been corrupted while they were on earth as a living soul.

So Job was praying to go and REST in a PLACE OF BANISHMENT FROM THE REACH OF THE MERCIES OF GOD TO ALL SOULS WHO HAS BEEN CORRUPTED WHILE THEY WERE ON EARTH AS A LIVING SOUL.

Do you get it now?

MaxInDHouse:


No you're misquoting him this is what he said:



So Job was praying to go and REST in a PLACE OF BANISHMENT FROM THE REACH OF THE MERCIES OF GOD TO ALL SOULS WHO HAS BEEN CORRUPTED WHILE THEY WERE ON EARTH AS A LIVING SOUL.

Do you get it now?

Hell fire and lake of fire. I still don't understand it. By your analogy, why did Jesus go to hell? And none of you has quoted any scripture to back these up.

TruthHurts100:

Hell fire and lake of fire. I still don't understand it. By your analogy, why did Jesus go to hell? And none of you has quoted any scripture to back these up.

He went there to preach to the DEAD whose souls are BANISHED FROM THE REACH OF THE MERCIES OF GOD!

TruthHurts100:


Hell fire and lake of fire. I still don't understand it. By your analogy, why did Jesus go to hell? And none of you has quoted any scripture to back these up.

Jesus went to help to preach and remohe many people from hell.

Hell (the abyss of fire) is the abode of Devil and the fallen angels. Any person who rejects the power of salvation Jesus Christ offers is heading there to be with his master Satan.

Lake of Fire is worse than hell, because Satan, his angels, etc, will be more tortured

Jokerman:
∆ Jesus went to help to preach and remohe many people from hell.

∆ Hell (the abyss of fire) is the abode of Devil and the fallen angels. Any person who rejects the power of salvation Jesus Christ offers is heading there to be with his master Satan.
∆ Lake of Fire is worse than hell, because Satan, his angels, etc, will be more tortured

When did Jesus Christ do what you claim?

2. Where Jesus Christ abi who talk this one abeg?

3. More tortured ke? Where did you obtain this claim from? Hope not a book of dreams/visions?

Kobojunkie:
When did Jesus Christ do what you claim?

2. Where Jesus Christ abi who talk this one abeg?

3. More tortured ke? Where did you obtain this claim from? Hope not a book of dreams/visions?

I'm using the Bible, the word of God to answer you.

1. 1 Peter 3:18 For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit:
3:19 By which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison;


2. Matthew 25:41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:

3. Revelation 20:10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.


John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
3:17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.
3:18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

MaxInDHouse:


No you're misquoting him this is what he said:



So Job was praying to go and REST in a PLACE OF BANISHMENT FROM THE REACH OF THE MERCIES OF GOD TO ALL SOULS WHO HAS BEEN CORRUPTED WHILE THEY WERE ON EARTH AS A LIVING SOUL.

Do you get it now?

It baffles me at times that many of you don't have deep experiences of the spiritual things.

You wanted to twist my comment, but you have forgotten that king David said these in his prayers to GOD:

“For thou wilt not leave my soul in hell; neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption.”
— Psalms 16:10 (KJV)

Moreover, the same Job you mentioned said this:

Job 10 (KJV)
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²⁰ Are not my days few? cease then, and let me alone, that I may take comfort a little,
²¹ Before I go whence I shall not return, even to the land of darkness and the shadow of death;
²² A land of darkness, as darkness itself; and of the shadow of death, without any order, and where the light is as darkness.

And our LORD JESUS CHRIST, who also went down to Hell, the Bible said this about His journey there:

1 Peter 3 (KJV)
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¹⁸ For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit:
¹⁹ By which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison;
²⁰ Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water.

Most of you don't read the Bible, talkless understanding what it is saying.

Westerhoffe:

It baffles me at times that many of you don't have deep experiences of the spiritual things.
You wanted to twist my comment, but you have forgotten that king David said these in his prayers to GOD:
“For thou wilt not leave my soul in hell; neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption.”
— Psalms 16:10 (KJV)
Moreover, the same Job you mentioned said this:
Job 10 (KJV)
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²⁰ Are not my days few? cease then, and let me alone, that I may take comfort a little,
²¹ Before I go whence I shall not return, even to the land of darkness and the shadow of death;
²² A land of darkness, as darkness itself; and of the shadow of death, without any order, and where the light is as darkness.

And our LORD JESUS CHRIST, who also went down to Hell, the Bible said this about His journey there:
1 Peter 3 (KJV)
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¹⁸ For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit:
¹⁹ By which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison;
²⁰ Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water.
Most of you don't read the Bible, talkless understanding what it is saying.

Preach that in your church!

IT IS EITHER YOU OR SATAN.

MaxInDHouse:


Preach that in your church!

Yea… because that's what the Bible says.
You think I'm a dunce as the people you have misled by your false and twisted doctrines.

Westerhoffe:

Yea… because that's what the Bible says.
You think I'm a dunce as the people you have misled by your false and twisted doctrines.

I never quoted you in the first place so go and preach your doctrine in your church!

MaxInDHouse:

I never quoted you in the first place so go and preach your doctrine in your church!

You lied openly again?
Don't you know you quoted me or you just wanted to lie openly?

I don't find that funny…

Westerhoffe:

You lied openly again?
Don't you know you quoted me or you just wanted to lie openly?
I don't find that funny…

I don't doing so on this thread but if such occur it's a mistake so can you now go and preach your doctrine in your own church?

MaxInDHouse:

I don't doing so on this thread but if such occur it's a mistake so can you now go and preach your doctrine in your own church?

You don't quoting me, and yet I quoted you to reply to your quote…
I see I've been away for too long again…

Jokerman:


Jesus went to help to preach and remohe many people from hell.

Hell (the abyss of fire) is the abode of Devil and the fallen angels. Any person who rejects the power of salvation Jesus Christ offers is heading there to be with his master Satan.

Lake of Fire is worse than hell, because Satan, his angels, etc, will be more tortured

Where is this in the Bible sir?

Kobojunkie:
Does a government need be personally responsible for anything within its jurisdiction?

I don't know that it's also democracy they are you in heaven too
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