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Dam5reey(m): 9:02am On May 01, 2024
Danibestguy:
Hello. I have a 24v 100ah lifepo4 battery.
Constant load - 240w which is just a fridge and a fan.
I want to get an inverter to match it. I'm also planning on getting s later on.
Please note that we get up to 8hrs of grid light daily.
Is it advisable to get an hybrid inverter ?
Considering that I'm staying in a rented apartment(limited space), will 2 500/550w s in series be enough?


Budget is 500k.

Hybrids are here to stay and have stood the test of time already. why are people still contemplating?
Hybrid gives you an Inverter, Charger, and MPPT, cheaper than any standalone.

example with 250K. you can have
a 3kva inverter with 60A charger,
80A MPPT, go and price stand-alone equivalent.

Hybrid allows you to customize slightly when grid charge, how much grid charge, when Solarcharge, Only Solar charge during the day and Grid charge in the night, etc. with standalone, you need to have good know-how and other tools to achieve these.

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Jefferyzz(m): 9:22am On May 01, 2024
2 440w - 260k
1 powmr mppt - 103k
3000w easure sachet inverter - 92k
Cables n odas - 70k
Transport - 10-20k
This is most likely Ur cheapest route
Danibestguy:
Hello. I have a 24v 100ah lifepo4 battery.
Constant load - 240w which is just a fridge and a fan.
I want to get an inverter to match it. I'm also planning on getting s later on.
Please note that we get up to 8hrs of grid light daily.
Is it advisable to get an hybrid inverter ?
Considering that I'm staying in a rented apartment(limited space), will 2 500/550w s in series be enough?


Budget is 500k.

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Dam5reey(m): 9:29am On May 01, 2024
Jefferyzz:
2 440w - 260k
1 powmr mppt - 103k
3000w easure sachet inverter - 92k
Cables n odas - 70k
Transport - 10-20k
This is most likely Ur cheapest route

so he won't use grid or charge with the grid?
he will have to use ATS or changeover just like generator
Danibestguy: 9:30am On May 01, 2024
Dam5reey:


Hybrids are here to stay and have stood the test of time already. why are people still contemplating?
Hybrid gives you an Inverter, Charger, and MPPT, cheaper than any standalone.

example with 250K. you can have
a 3kva inverter with 60A charger,
80A MPPT, go and price stand-alone equivalent.

Hybrid allows you to customize slightly when grid charge, how much grid charge, when Solarcharge, Only Solar charge during the day and Grid charge in the night, etc. with standalone, you need to have good know-how and other tools to achieve these.
Alright. Thanks.
But can 2 500w s start those inverters? If it can, will it charge at all?
Danibestguy: 9:33am On May 01, 2024
Jefferyzz:
2 440w - 260k
1 powmr mppt - 103k
3000w easure sachet inverter - 92k
Cables n odas - 70k
Transport - 10-20k
This is most likely Ur cheapest route
What about cloudy days... Incase I want to use the grid to charge. And can those s charge the batteries fully? Let assume I just use to 50 dod.
Sapiosexuality(m): 9:38am On May 01, 2024
obitobe:


please use your old charge controller and leave out the in-bult charge controller
Leave it? Why?
Dam5reey(m): 9:39am On May 01, 2024
Danibestguy:

Alright. Thanks.
But can 2 500w s start those inverters? If it can, will it charge at all?

There are low Voltage MPPT and there are High Voltage MPPT.
you select based on your needs.

there is 100V MPPT, 2 s works
150V MPPT, 2 works
30-400v MPPT, 2 s works
60 - 450v MPPT, 2 s works
90v - 450v MPPT 4 s or more
120-450v MPPT 6 s or more.

options plenty.

Danibestguy: 9:43am On May 01, 2024
Dam5reey:


There are low Voltage MPPT and there are High Voltage MPPT.
you select based on your needs.

there is 100V MPPT, 2 s works
150V MPPT, 2 works
30-400v MPPT, 2 s works
60 - 450v MPPT, 2 s works
90v - 450v MPPT 4 s or more
120-450v MPPT 6 s or more.

options plenty.


Do you know any hybrid inverter with those ranges that can easily work with 2 s? What I've been seeing is nominal voltage of 120v and above.
Sapiosexuality(m): 9:44am On May 01, 2024
Dam5reey:


Hybrids are here to stay and have stood the test of time already. why are people still contemplating?
Hybrid gives you an Inverter, Charger, and MPPT, cheaper than any standalone.

example with 250K. you can have
a 3kva inverter with 60A charger,
80A MPPT, go and price stand-alone equivalent.

Hybrid allows you to customize slightly when grid charge, how much grid charge, when Solarcharge, Only Solar charge during the day and Grid charge in the night, etc. with standalone, you need to have good know-how and other tools to achieve these.
Makes sense.
swagifted(m): 9:50am On May 01, 2024
to be honest , if nigeria had net metering and the grid was highly reliable and also the agreement is 1kwh for 1kwh (i supply the grid 1kwh with my solar in the afternoon and the grid gives me back the 1kwh in the night), i will not take a hybrid over an ON grid inverter, the grid is essentially my battery so why spend so much on batteries?....as much as i love hybrids(because nepa too de take light), they don't last as long as on grids only.
Dam5reey:


Hybrids are here to stay and have stood the test of time already. why are people still contemplating?
Hybrid gives you an Inverter, Charger, and MPPT, cheaper than any standalone.

example with 250K. you can have
a 3kva inverter with 60A charger,
80A MPPT, go and price stand-alone equivalent.

Hybrid allows you to customize slightly when grid charge, how much grid charge, when Solarcharge, Only Solar charge during the day and Grid charge in the night, etc. with standalone, you need to have good know-how and other tools to achieve these.
Dam5reey(m): 9:53am On May 01, 2024
swagifted:
to be honest , if nigeria had net metering and the grid was highly reliable and also the agreement is 1kwh for 1kwh (i supply the grid 1kwh with my solar in the afternoon and the grid gives me back the 1kwh in the night), i will not take a hybrid over an ON grid inverter, the grid is essentially my battery so why spend so much on batteries?....as much as i love hybrids(because nepa too de take light), they don't last as long as on grids only.

your Don't last is too generic. Provide detailed information.

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swagifted(m): 10:08am On May 01, 2024
Dam5reey:


your Don't last is too generic. Provide detailed information.
like i said... Hybrids de reign because nepa too de take light...
HeavenlyBang(m): 10:32am On May 01, 2024
Danibestguy:


Do you know any hybrid inverter with those ranges that can easily work with 2 s? What I've been seeing is nominal voltage of 120v and above.

There are. Plenty.

For example, Powmr's datasheet for their 2kva and 3.2kva models.

Danibestguy: 10:40am On May 01, 2024
HeavenlyBang:


There are. Plenty.

For example, Powmr's datasheet for their 2kva and 3.2kva models.
So, no need for me to have the nominal voltage of 240dc? Na the nominal dey gimme headache.
See this data sheet as well. According to this data sheet, I can even use the inverter with just a right?

Chikach: 10:49am On May 01, 2024
HeavenlyBang:


There are. Plenty.

For example, Powmr's datasheet for their 2kva and 3.2kva models.


Do you sell this hybrid inverter and whats the price
Dam5reey(m): 11:02am On May 01, 2024
Danibestguy:

So, no need for me to have the nominal voltage of 240dc? Na the nominal dey gimme headache.
See this data sheet as well. According to this data sheet, I can even use the inverter with just a right?

I have shown you a picture where charging is well with 113V and even less.
and 1.64KW deliver 1.47KW at that 111V..
so your 240V nominal headache I don't understand cheesy
Danibestguy: 11:18am On May 01, 2024
Dam5reey:


I have shown you a picture where charging is well with 113V and even less.
and 1.64KW deliver 1.47KW at that 111V..
so your 240V nominal headache I don't understand cheesy
Wow. Abeg what's the Voc of the s and how many s?
Dam5reey(m): 11:19am On May 01, 2024
Danibestguy:

Wow. Abeg what's the Voc of the s and how many s?

I provide on pages back..
HeavenlyBang(m): 11:37am On May 01, 2024
Danibestguy:

So, no need for me to have the nominal voltage of 240dc? Na the nominal dey gimme headache.
See this data sheet as well. According to this data sheet, I can even use the inverter with just a right?

Well, you wouldn't be getting the most out of your MPPT.

For example, I have a 3*580w PV setup connected in series and I'm only getting 320w on a cloudy day like this.

Your system will work, but try and add another at the very least. If you don't do it now, you'll still need to later on. And it'll be more expensive for you then.

HeavenlyBang(m): 11:37am On May 01, 2024
Chikach:



Do you sell this hybrid inverter and whats the price

I do not. You can order on AliExpress, though, or see if you can find a seller locally.
toscotech(m): 12:12pm On May 01, 2024
Chikach:



Do you sell this hybrid inverter and whats the price

Inverter Use Note:

The Battery Capacity OF The Correct Matching System Is Determined According To The Specific Usage Requirements OF The Load And Application Scenarios, Otherwise It will Easily Lead To Insufficient Battery Capacity Or Excessive Waste OF Power Generation.
Product features: This product can work without batteries, when you don't use the battery, the starting voltage of the solar is 150voc, when you connect the 48V battery, the starting voltage of the solar is 60voc, which means the solar system can be installed with less budget.

PowMr 6.2kw On-grid/off-grid hybrid inverter 48Vdc 230VAC PV Input 500vdc Pure Sine Wave Solar Inverter 120A MPPT Solar Controller Lithium Battery
oweniwe(m): 12:20pm On May 01, 2024
Danibestguy:
Hello. I have a 24v 100ah lifepo4 battery.
Constant load - 240w which is just a fridge and a fan.
I want to get an inverter to match it. I'm also planning on getting s later on.
Please note that we get up to 8hrs of grid light daily.
Is it advisable to get an hybrid inverter ?
Considering that I'm staying in a rented apartment(limited space), will 2 500/550w s in series be enough?


Budget is 500k.

Brand name: Smarten

Rating: 24v

Charging profile: SMF Lead Acid/Tubular/Lithium

Built in battery charger

Asking price 290k

Location: Asaba but can waybill anywhere you get it same day

: Whatsapp 08104447220

CC: Chikach

Danibestguy: 12:43pm On May 01, 2024
HeavenlyBang:


Well, you wouldn't be getting the most out of your MPPT.

For example, I have a 3*580w PV setup connected in series and I'm only getting 320w on a cloudy day like this.

Your system will work, but try and add another at the very least. If you don't do it now, you'll still need to later on. And it'll be more expensive for you then.

The only limitation now is space. Even for the two, it will be tight.
Danibestguy: 12:46pm On May 01, 2024
oweniwe:


Brand name: Smarten

Rating: 24v

Charging profile: SMF Lead Acid/Tubular/Lithium

Built in battery charger

Asking price 290k

Location: Asaba but can waybill anywhere you get it same day

: Whatsapp 08104447220

CC: Chikach
Thanks for the offer. Is this hybrid? Besides, I'm located in Lagos.
Danibestguy: 12:48pm On May 01, 2024
Dam5reey:


I provide on pages back..

Thank you boss. Your answers have been very helpful.
Ferdiwar: 12:51pm On May 01, 2024
Your analysis is wrong.

Hybrid inverters has nothing to do with Nepa not being constant.

Even if you're using a standalone inverter you'll still need a CC to be able to feed to the grid.

swagifted:
like i said... Hybrids de reign because nepa too de take light...
TechGeek777: 12:56pm On May 01, 2024
isangjohnson:

I prefer Felicity to SMS

Your phobia for this SMS too much.

I strongly believe SMS Sunmate Inverter will outperform Feli under same condition.
TechGeek777: 1:00pm On May 01, 2024
Dam5reey:


Hybrids are here to stay and have stood the test of time already. why are people still contemplating?
Hybrid gives you an Inverter, Charger, and MPPT, cheaper than any standalone.

example with 250K. you can have
a 3kva inverter with 60A charger,
80A MPPT, go and price stand-alone equivalent.

Hybrid allows you to customize slightly when grid charge, how much grid charge, when Solarcharge, Only Solar charge during the day and Grid charge in the night, etc. with standalone, you need to have good know-how and other tools to achieve these.

The thing tired me.

Those saying Standalone, if inverter spoil wetin CC Alone go do without engine to convert from battery to load?

Get hybrid and another small kw hybrid as backup when the other dey on repairs finished nothing more.
oweniwe(m): 1:14pm On May 01, 2024
Danibestguy:

Thanks for the offer. Is this hybrid? Besides, I'm located in Lagos.

Inverter and built in battery charger.

You will have to buy external CC

No problem with location.

You will get it few hours after it is sent
HeavenlyBang(m): 1:34pm On May 01, 2024
Danibestguy:


The only limitation now is space. Even for the two, it will be tight.

See if you can get a single 625w Jinko , then.

Take measurements of the space you have. Compare.
Alternative is smaller 250W s. They actually don't take a lot of space, so you can fit in a fair number of them.
microgiant: 1:47pm On May 01, 2024
Ferdiwar:
Your analysis is wrong.

Hybrid inverters has nothing to do with Nepa not being constant.

Even if you're using a standalone inverter you'll still need a CC to be able to feed to the grid.


He is talking about grid tie inverters, You don't need a CC to feed into the grid, most are even connected to a then the house power system. The house loads are powered and excess is feed into the grid which is recorded by the meter. At sundown, the meter reverses feeding back into the house. E.g. if you generate 5kw during the day and use only 1.5kw, 3.5kw is feed to the public utility(electricty company is owning you), at night, you can use the 3.5kw from the utility, and any extra is what you pay for.

The meters in Nigeria, if you feed to public line, your meter will still deduct the units. So which ever way the KW flows, you are charged for it
HeavenlyBang(m): 2:30pm On May 01, 2024
microgiant:


He is talking about grid tie inverters, You don't need a CC to feed into the grid, most are even connected to a then the house power system. The house loads are powered and excess is feed into the grid which is recorded by the meter. At sundown, the meter reverses feeding back into the house. E.g. if you generate 5kw during the day and use only 1.5kw, 3.5kw is feed to the public utility(electricty company is owning you), at night, you can use the 3.5kw from the utility, and any extra is what you pay for.

The meters in Nigeria, if you feed to public line, your meter will still deduct the units. So which ever way the KW flows, you are charged for it

Can you even feed back into the grid in Nigeria?

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