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airsaylongcome:


Your own interpretation of reported facts doesn't make your interpretation a reality. Obaseki did not betray the Ọba. If he did, he would have been outcast and banished from Bini Kingdom. If you don't know how Bini traditions work, keep silent. Have a good day.

Because I have chosen to educate you, I will do it to the end.

Agho Obaseki was not banished because Oba Ovonramwen who would have banished him was instead banished to Calabar by the British.

While Oba Ovonramwen was away, Obaseki became the Leader of Benin Kingdom by the design of the British of course.

And when Oba Ovonramwen eventually died and the British, possibly learning that they can’t make Obaseki king without pushbacks by custodians of Benin traditions, they decided to make Oba Ovonramwen’s son king and made Obaseki the Prime Minister and by so doing, the British placed king Eweka 11 below Obaseki. They designed it in a way that the Oba would now have to take instructions from Obaseki. Things remained that way until Obaseki died in 1920.

Now, how was the Oba supposed to banish someone he takes instructions from; someone above him?

aswani:


Send me a link to her foolishness so me too can abuse and insult her. She is just one idiot amongst lots of Benin people that are respectful to Yoruba Oba's, worth beaoin mind please.

Ba mi fi ọwọ wọ nu, jọ̀wọ́!

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZMMCmksdq/

Here is the yea asked for, we present day Yoruba won't take any insult from anybody, not even from some edo clown

YorubaDemonswag:
https://vm.tiktok.com/ZMMCmksdq/

Here is the yea asked for, we present day Yoruba won't take any insult from anybody, not even from some edo clown

I don't have a Tiktok , shame.

Please try and accept that the idiot is just as you aptly described, an Ẹdo clown.

She was most likely spurred on by Obidients to be even more fooolish in life than necessary, all of which has thankfully died down now in Benin City seeing as the jazz certain people used on them has worn out.

Má binu ọmọ iya mi. Let's just accept every village has an idiot.

aswani:


I don't have a Tiktok , shame.

Please try and accept that the idiot is just as you aptly described, an Ẹdo clown.

She was most likely spurred on by Obidients to be even more fooolish in life than necessary, all of which has thankfully died down now in Benin City seeing as the jazz certain people used on them has worn out.

Má binu ọmọ iya mi. Let's just accept every village has an idiot.

I will accept it and tone down down my outburst, Thanks so much for your concern. One love

In my humble opinion, I really want to believe that you're purely micro-managing the whole truth concerning this matter. I'm not a Bini man and neither am I from Edo State.

As a matter of fact, I find it difficult to understand the rationale behind two (2) successive Ọba giving out their daughters to a so-called "traitor" if truly they see him in the light, according to you and your sources.

Again, I can not just understand how and why the Ọba of Benin keep showering titles on the seeds of a certain traitor. I'll really want to understand why His Majesty, according to your brief, would grant one Obaseki, an Exams of Benin, but later frown at another Obaseki vying to become a governor.


Clearly, the logic of your source is far beyond me.

Penguin2:

If Wikipedia is a historical revisionist site, then point to the site with a more authentic history.

I had to post from a Wikipedia source because that’s the only one I could produce its link so it doesn’t seem like fake news. Aside from Wikipedia, the story of Obaseki’s action and the exile of Oba Ovonramwen is many other history books. So, your claim to historical revisionism is fallacious.

About Godwin Obaseki becoming governor….

An insider whom I was having a conversation with recently, said that when Oshiomole presented Obaseki to the Oba Ewuare as his anointed candidate to succeed him, the Oba raised some concerns about Obaseki because of the history of his family but Oshiomole allayed the Oba’s fears and assured him Obaseki was trustworthy. But I think events since Obaseki became governor has shown that Oshiomole was wrong.

It is claimed that Oba Ovonramwen cursed the Obaseki family and Godwin seems to have lived up to that curse by being a serial betrayer.

Oshiomole trusted him but he betrayed him.

Wike trusted him and helped give him the PDP ticket but he betrayed Wike.

Shuaibu trusted him and ed him to fight Obaseki but he ended up betraying Obaseki and impeaching him.

Even the Oba that gave his blessings for him to succeed Oshiomole, he betrayed him and has been dragging the returned Benin Artifacts with the Oba which has led to litigations.

Are these series of betrayals not too many to be just mere coincidences?

Why always Obaseki?

FreeStuffsNG:
It's likely another history revisionism.

Wikipedia is not credible, it is not even accepted as a reference and with the previous failed attempt to revise the history of the Yoruba who produced the present day Benin royalty and Yoruba Awori's prime place as the original and authentic owners of Isale Eko, Lagos, many people will doubt any of 'history' from same place

That a descendant of same Obaseki could even be a Governor today shows that the family has not lost its place of significance in Benin or suffered from any wrong proclamation against him and his descendants.

FreestuffsNG your last sentence is massively underrated because even lying Propaganda can never defeat God's own Truth and Justice

KingPure:
In my humble opinion, I really want to believe that you're purely micro-managing the whole truth concerning this matter. I'm not a Bini man and neither am I from Edo State.

As a matter of fact, I find it difficult to understand the rationale behind two (2) successive Ọba giving out their daughters to a so-called "traitor" if truly they see him in the light, according to you and your sources.

Again, I can not just understand how and why the Ọba of Benin keep showering titles on the seeds of a certain traitor. I'll really want to understand why His Majesty, according to your brief, would grant one Obaseki, an Exams of Benin, but later frown at another Obaseki vying to become a governor.


Clearly, the logic of your source is far beyond me.

First, Oba Ovonramwen, the one he eventually betrayed, gave him his daughter in marriage when they still had good relationship and Obaseki controlled trading on behalf of the kingdom and was doing well and bringing good returns to the king. So, in appreciation, the king gave one his daughters to him in marriage.

Now, later on when Oba Ovonramwen’s son, Oba Eweka 11, became king, Oba Eweka gave his daughter to him as an apology for a supposed wrong done to Obaseki.

Read deep and in detail to have a complete grasp of how things happened before coming up with your doubts.

History and politics though intertwined are never on the same page. Benin city is sited on the old capital of a great empire, not kingdom. Did you expect the palace politics against a favorite that wasn’t born a noble to be easy & straight forward?? Research on why Oba Ovonramwen was deposed by the British again. No king after the fact will intentionally mingle a traitor’s legacy with royal blood.

Penguin2:

Because I have chosen to educate you, I will do it to the end.

Agho Obaseki was not banished because Oba Ovonramwen who would have banished him was instead banished to Calabar by the British.

While Oba Ovonramwen was away, Obaseki became the Leader of Benin Kingdom by the design of the British of course.

And when Oba Ovonramwen eventually died and the British, possibly learning that they can’t make Obaseki king without pushbacks by custodians of Benin traditions, they decided to make Oba Ovonramwen’s son king and made Obaseki the Prime Minister and by so doing, the British placed king Eweka 11 below Obaseki. They designed it in a way that the Oba would now have to take instructions from Obaseki. Things remained that way until Obaseki died in 1920.

Now, how was the Oba supposed to banish someone he takes instructions from; someone above him?

Do you have any source to back this up?

Edo no be Lagos,

Truly wishing you and Obaseki the best

Please Make you no fight o!

Make sure you respect and Obey Gov Obaseki

Penguin2:

If Wikipedia is a historical revisionist site, then point to the site with a more authentic history.

I had to post from a Wikipedia source because that’s the only one I could produce its link so it doesn’t seem like fake news. Aside from Wikipedia, the story of Obaseki’s action and the exile of Oba Ovonramwen is many other history books. So, your claim to historical revisionism is fallacious.

About Godwin Obaseki becoming governor….

An insider whom I was having a conversation with recently, said that when Oshiomole presented Obaseki to the Oba Ewuare as his anointed candidate to succeed him, the Oba raised some concerns about Obaseki because of the history of his family but Oshiomole allayed the Oba’s fears and assured him Obaseki was trustworthy. But I think events since Obaseki became governor has shown that Oshiomole was wrong.

It is claimed that Oba Ovonramwen cursed the Obaseki family and Godwin seems to have lived up to that curse by being a serial betrayer.

Oshiomole trusted him but he betrayed him.

Wike trusted him and helped give him the PDP ticket but he betrayed Wike.

Shuaibu trusted him and ed him to fight Obaseki but he ended up betraying Obaseki and impeaching him.

Even the Oba that gave his blessings for him to succeed Oshiomole, he betrayed him and has been dragging the returned Benin Artifacts with the Oba which has led to litigations.

Are these series of betrayals not too many to be just mere coincidences?

Why always Obaseki?

We heard that Oshiomhole has since apologized to the Palace saying they warned him but he refused to listen


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ngeneukwuewuGOAT:
Oba bini na stranger

Can you tell me where your ancestors were in the 1400's ? They might have been slaves in Brazil or in Sudan or in Mali. Well the Oba of Benin's ancestors were ruling Benin empire from the capital city of Edda (Benin city) in the 1400's.
I don't think there is any other Nigerian whose ancestry can be researched that far in the past.
It seems you are not well educated.
Don't be confused by fairytales.

YorubaDemonswag:



Which yeye Oba? Obaseki is real Edo man while that useless Oba is an impostior from iile ife, he will be dethrone and banish to evil forest after election,real Edo know themselves

Can you tell me where your ancestors were in the 1400's ? They might have been slaves in Brazil or in Sudan or in Mali. Well the Oba of Benin's ancestors were ruling Benin empire from the capital city Edda (Benin city) in the 1400's.
I don't think there is any other Nigerian whose ancestry can be researched that far in the past.
It seems you are not well educated.
Don't be confused by fairytales.

So someone somewhere insulted your king and you identify that person as an Edo, therefore you now go anywhere you see Edo people and start insulting the Oba of Benin ?
So instead of insulting the person who vexed you, you go anywhere you see Edo people to insult the Oba of Benin ? While the Oba of Benin didn't vex you nor did the Edo people in whose presence you have elected to showcase your madness !?
Mental asylums in Nigeria are not doing their job well.
So if a yoriba steals my money, I'm entitled to go and burn down the house of any other yoriba ? If a yoriba punches me, I need not punch him back, I only need to look for an other yoriba anywhere else and throw stones at him ?

YorubaDemonswag:



Oba dey mad? You people are free to abuse others people king but want your useless inferior Yoruba king to be respected.

Actually you are just quoting revisionists whom created a fantasy "history" to elevate their ranks. The only person in Nigeria whose ancestry is proven up to the 1400's is the Oba of Benin whose ancestors were already recieving literate visitors in the 1400's while they were ruling the empire of Benin and Ife was nowhere to be found. There is a reason why Benin republic is named after Benin and not Ife. Indeed Ife is a new settlement compared to Benin and even in 1912 Ife was still a small village whereas Benin was already an empire in the 1400's. Fairytales were created to elevate the standing of Ife.

Christlike01:
What's a verifiable fact is that Oba of Benin is a Yoruba man through Oranmiyan,that Obaseki is a betrayal is even secondary! Olumide Akpata,Omobayo,Oyegun,Akerele,etc are all Yoruba men, that's a fact!

aswani:


I don't have a Tiktok , shame.

Please try and accept that the idiot is just as you aptly described, an Ẹdo clown.

She was most likely spurred on by Obidients to be even more fooolish in life than necessary, all of which has thankfully died down now in Benin City seeing as the jazz certain people used on them has worn out.

Má binu ọmọ iya mi. Let's just accept every village has an idiot.

Or Agbadorians who physically assaulted people going to vote for Obi in Lagos, who called every good looking person Igbo and Obi er in Lagos.
She could've been spurred on by the likes of Obi Rikwan Akiolu, Remi Tinubu, MC Oluomo, Bayo Onanuga and co who threatened the Igbo over their choice of candidate. Perhaps too, she was egged on by Wole Soyinka who has become senile as a result of the crumbs from Tinubu's tables he feeds on.

You guys need to stop taking things out of context, the Oba of Lagos wasn't threatening anybody, he was making a joke. Oba Akiolu has never been an enemy to Igbos. He has never had any anti-igbo statement or policy. But ethnic bigots always want to be seen as victims of every other ethnicity.

mairogo:

Or Agbadorians who physically assaulted people going to vote for Obi in Lagos, who called every good looking person Igbo and Obi er in Lagos.
She could've been spurred on by the likes of Obi Rikwan Akiolu, Remi Tinubu, MC Oluomo, Bayo Onanuga and co who threatened the Igbo over their choice of candidate. Perhaps too, she was egged on by Wole Soyinka who has become senile as a result of the crumbs from Tinubu's tables he feeds on.

Stoplying:
You guys need to stop taking things out of context, the Oba of Lagos wasn't threatening anybody, he was making a joke.

Really? Same way MC Oluomo made a joke with his own comments?
How do you even make a job with something as important as one's life?
Come to think of it, if it was a joke, I'm not sure his boys understood it else they wouldn't have beaten people going to vote Obi in 2023.

Joke or not, his comments set the stage for the assaults Obi's ers suffered in Lagos, don't try to downplay it bro.

He wasn't joking with anybody's life, it is just your Biafra-propaganda which interpreted it as such. Now you are claiming "his boys went to beat up anybody trying to vote for Obi". I challenge you to prove that any of those criminals was working for the Oba of Lagos!
It seems you have forgotten that tinubu leads the gangs of Lagos. But I guess it is more convenient for your victim narrative to imagine it is the Oba of Lagos who sent criminals to brutalise voters rather than tinubu trying to crush his opponents.

mairogo:

Really? Same way MC Oluomo made a joke with his own comments?
How do you even make a job with something as important as one's life?
Come to think of it, if it was a joke, I'm not sure his boys understood it else they wouldn't have beaten people going to vote Obi in 2023.

Joke or not, his comments set the stage for the assaults Obi's ers suffered in Lagos, don't try to downplay it bro.

With this your logic, one can also claim that the guys who ransacked the palace of the Oba of Lagos were acting on the order of the Oba of Lagos. A joke made years ago and which has seen many other presidential elections come and go is now out of a sudden the reason for people being attacked in a presidential election ?
I guess in your mind the Oba of Lagos invented political thugs and yoriba ethnic bigots and tinubu thugs all at once when he made a joke many years ago !?
The yoriba have had a tendency to radicalise their youths for more than a decade and the Oba of Lagos has nothing to do with this, if anything this is a threat to the actual legitimate monarchy of Lagos. You now have people from anywhere in the southwest believing that Lagos is their land and that the oni of ife is the owner of lagos.

mairogo:


Joke or not, his comments set the stage for the assaults Obi's ers suffered in Lagos, don't try to downplay it bro.

mairogo:

Or Agbadorians who physically assaulted people going to vote for Obi in Lagos, who called every good looking person Igbo and Obi er in Lagos.
She could've been spurred on by the likes of Obi Rikwan Akiolu, Remi Tinubu, MC Oluomo, Bayo Onanuga and co who threatened the Igbo over their choice of candidate. Perhaps too, she was egged on by Wole Soyinka who has become senile as a result of the crumbs from Tinubu's tables he feeds on.

Thankfully the threat didn't work and Peter Obi defeated President Tinubu in Lagos state. Also even more impressively, President Tinubu urged his ers to not resort to any violence after the result was announced, to quote him "that is the beauty of democracy"

Professor Soyinka, Nobel Prize winner, like the rest of us non-Obidients was concerned about the way Obidients sought to harass and insult people in the country who didn't believe in Peter Obi and, as is his right, spoke out against it.

By the way, I condemn the violence in Lagos State at polling booths against people perceived to be LP voters. Thankfully, none of it was enough to change the will of the people.

Which threat ?
See how you coningly put tinubu's crimes upon the shoulders of the Oba of Lagos, while it is a well known fact that the agberos work for tinubu. It wouldn't surprise me if you were one of the political thugs beating up unsuspecting voters.

aswani:


Thankfully the threat didn't work and Peter Obi defeated President Tinubu in Lagos state.

Stoplying:
He wasn't joking with anybody's life, it is just your Biafra-propaganda which interpreted it as such. Now you are claiming "his boys went to beat up anybody trying to vote for Obi". I challenge you to prove that any of those criminals was working for the Oba of Lagos!
It seems you have forgotten that tinubu leads the gangs of Lagos. But I guess it is more convenient for your victim narrative to imagine it is the Oba of Lagos who sent criminals to brutalise voters rather than tinubu trying to crush his opponents.

I will ask you to be true to your name and stop lying. You did it he actually said so but it was a joke. How ridiculous can one be denying the obvious.
BTW, no where did I say the Obi sent the boys but that the boys may have been spurred on by his 'joke'.
A person occupying such revered and exalted position should be careful with his words and not talk like touts and agberos.

Truth's that he meant what he said, only apologists like you think otherwise.

mairogo:

I will ask you to be true to your name and stop lying. You did it he actually said so but it was a joke.

Show me the quote where I "it he actually said so". Your problem might be intellectual in nature, you interprete what people say and then you confuse reality with your own imagination.

aswani:


Thankfully the threat didn't work and Peter Obi defeated President Tinubu in Lagos state. Also even more impressively, President Tinubu urged his ers to not resort to any violence after the result was announced, to quote him "that is the beauty of democracy"

Professor Soyinka, Nobel Prize winner, like the rest of us non-Obidients was concerned about the way Obidients sought to harass and insult people in the country who didn't believe in Peter Obi and, as is his right, spoke out against it.

By the way, I condemn the violence in Lagos State at polling booths against people perceived to be LP voters. Thankfully, none of it was enough to change the will of the people.

Wole Soyinka was more concerned about the Obidients but turned a blind eye to Agbadorians who also did what he condemns the Obidients for. Double standard isn't?
I didn't see him condemn Tinubu's ers who called the likes of the leadership of Afenifere names, called Obi names and abused his ers for daring to go against Tinubu.

Will you in all honesty, say Obi and his ers weren't insulted and bullied?
I Sam Omotsaye (hope I got the name correct) coined the termed Obituary, I didn't see Soyinka call him to order.

I don't want to accuse you of hypocrisy but you act in ways that suggest you ain't innocent of it.

mairogo:

BTW, no where did I say the Obi sent the boys but that the boys may have been spurred on by his 'joke'.

A joke made many years ago in relations to a governorship election and which has seen other presidential elections come and go...I'm still searching for your logic.

mairogo:


Truth's that he meant what he said, only apologists like you think otherwise.

Oh, so now you are a magician who reads minds... Unsurprising therefore that you reason the way you do. You are yet to bring the quote of the joke in its entirety, instead all we see is your playing of the victim card and mind reading magician card.

Stoplying:

Show me the quote where I "it he actually said so". Your problem might be intellectual in nature, you interprete what people say and then you confuse reality with your own imagination.

"...the Oba of Lagos wasn't threatening anybody, he was making a joke"
What does the quote suggest to you? Denial or acceptance?

Some of you think everyone on nairaland is a kid with no reasoning powers.

Stoplying:

Oh, so now you are a magician who reads minds... Unsurprising therefore that you reason the way you do. You are yet to bring the quote of the joke in its entirety, instead all we see is your playing of the victim card and mind reading magician card.

You can deny it all you want bro but the truth is that some of you guys are as guilty as the some of the Obidients you are quick to condemn.

This is the problem with you. As I said, you confuse your interpretation with reality. Nowhere in my my comment did I "accept that he said that". It is you whom is interpreting my comment in that way. Just like you would interprete a joke into a threat to life. I'm not the master of what "suggestions" you get in your head.

mairogo:

"...the Oba of Lagos wasn't threatening anybody, he was making a joke"
What does the quote suggest to you? Denial or acceptance?

Some of you think everyone on nairaland is a kid with no reasoning powers.

mairogo:

You can deny it all you want bro but the truth is that some of you guys are as guilty as the some of the Obidients you are quick to condemn.

I wonder what you mean by "you guys" ? You see, rather than interprete your words, I ask for clarification. That is what an educated adult is supposed to do.