NewStats: 3,263,946 , 8,182,019 topics. Date: Sunday, 08 June 2025 at 10:49 PM p513x

Penguin2:

Therefore?🙄

Don't u know what implications means.. Somethings to implies that...

If he was charged for a civil case then he is not a criminal neither did he commit a criminal offence.. What it means is... Drugs is a criminal offence... In USA... If bola wasn't charge for criminal offence i dont know u obidients now became the jury over the matter to force into a criminal case.. Do u know more than FBI?

PaellaPaella:
Obi won the election and have proved it in court, but is it a crime to bring out Tinubu other criminal records? from Ogunlere Amoda Yekini to Ahmed Tinubu, what a character spit

Obi came a distant third and hasn't proved anything at the Tribunal apart from the fact that he has boxes and boxes of copies of blurred pictures of INEC forms he got from the INEC portal. Hopefully guguru sellers will be allowed to use the papers after the Judges rule against him.

President Tinubu has no criminal record. If he did Obi's lawyers are yet to find it, maybe you can help them if you have a copy. It won't help Obi's very very weak case though because if President Tinubu is disqualified, Atiku will ascend the throne.

Lotanna2:


Yes but it is neither fraud or dishonesty.there was no judgement sentencing him for narcotics charge,just an interim order

The judgement was a forfeiture for proceeds of narcotics. In truth, if you read through the charge sheet which was made public, Kevin Moss established a connection between Tinubu and Agbele the main culprit initially, which Tinubu later denied. It was his denial that saved him from being indicted coupled with the fact that he was already in Nigeria then. So the forfeiture was for money involved in drug trafficking found in his s.

Philgafauto:


It is nice that you know the effect of the difference between a case struck out after the court considered the merit and that struck out just because it was withdrawn by the plaintiff.

Well done.

SenatePresdo:


I have gone through the LP written address and I am very impressed.

2. I love how the LP team were able to use witness statements, international election monitoring reports, constitutional provisions and SC precedents to establish that INEC didn't follow it's published guidelines, thus in validating Tinubu's victory.

Are you able to show where it is mandated, in Nigeria electoral law, that INEC has to use IREV to tally the votes?

This is a genuine question that I myself am interested in.

By the way, I would like to compliment you on your use of paragraphs and incredible civility in the lack of abuse of the person of President Tinubu or INEC chairman in your submissions.

Kudos to you sir, you are definitely far from a typical Obidient and I look forward to learning from you.

By the way I don't agree with anything you wrote even though I ire the way you wrote it.

madridguy:
Obi should go and take some rest and allow our president breathhhhhhhh

Which president, did he win?

Kukutente23:

The judgement was a forfeiture for proceeds of narcotics. In truth, if you read through the charge sheet which was made public, Kevin Moss established a connection between Tinubu and Agbele the main culprit initially, which Tinubu later denied. It was his denial that saved him from being indicted coupled with the fact that he was already in Nigeria then. So the forfeiture was for money involved in drug trafficking found in his s.

True but it wasn't a judgment but a court order,a temporary forfeiture order akin to the ones efcc usually get here before investigations are concluded pending court proceedings

seunmsg:
Is there any sense in challenging an order from a civil case?

So, if VIO or FRSC fines me N5k today for traffic offense, is there any sense in wasting time challenging the order?

Since it’s a forfeiture resulting from a civil case, what’s the point fighting it? Tinubu was already a Senator when the forfeiture order was made against his . So, it makes more sense to simply allow the civil forfeiture order stand than to keep wasting money on appeal. Same way we all pay VIO and FRSC fine for traffic offense without appeal.

Civil my foot,, get a life

madridguy:
Obi should go and take some rest and allow our president breathhhhhhhh

who is your president? No peace for the wicked

Waste of precious time and money challenging a sitting President in Nigeria.

Penguin2:
If Tinubu is innocent of the allegations in the forfeiture order of the US Court of the District of Illinois, why has he not appealed that forfeiture order issued since 1993? Isn’t that what innocent people do?

https://saharareporters.com/2023/07/21/tinubu-hasnt-challenged-us-court-order-forfeiture-460000-narcotics-trafficking-any-court

OfficialAPCNig:

Read the address

You throw in every advantages you have to the ring to win a case. LP prayer is for the court to declare PO as the winner or invalidate Tinubu and declare a rerun

declare obi on what basis?

Olodo , drugs is not just a civil case?

seunmsg:
Is there any sense in challenging an order from a civil case?

So, if VIO or FRSC fines me N5k today for traffic offense, is there any sense in wasting time challenging the order?

Since it’s a forfeiture resulting from a civil case, what’s the point fighting it? Tinubu was already a Senator when the forfeiture order was made against his . So, it makes more sense to simply allow the civil forfeiture order stand than to keep wasting money on appeal. Same way we all pay VIO and FRSC fine for traffic offense without appeal.

seunmsg:
Is there any sense in challenging an order from a civil case?

So, if VIO or FRSC fines me N5k today for traffic offense, is there any sense in wasting time challenging the order?

Since it’s a forfeiture resulting from a civil case, what’s the point fighting it? Tinubu was already a Senator when the forfeiture order was made against his . So, it makes more sense to simply allow the civil forfeiture order stand than to keep wasting money on appeal. Same way we all pay VIO and FRSC fine for traffic offense without appeal.

About $450000 then is no joke....not anywhere in the world
How much was he legally worth that he let it go......
Even Ibori is challenging UK for I'll gotten wealth.

They have said all you talked about and added more.

aswani:
So Obi's lawyers are no longer saying president Tinubu was convicted as per their petition, they are now talking about forfeiture. Effectively, we are now been told that he should be disqualified because he didn't appeal a forfeiture order.

True story from the US state of California . A hitman killed a serving police officer and somehow a police informant led the police to him.

The police case wasn't strong and in truth, though they wanted to nail him, they looked at the bigger picture. They did a deal with him whereby he was never convicted but he told them who hired him and served as a witness in court for the prosecution in the case against the officer that hired him who later got convicted.

No charges were brought against the hitman and he is still goes about his life without being treated as a felon though he has sworn on oath that he committed a murder.

Point is, like President Tinubu, the hitman might have been a naughty boy but he was never convicted of a crime to assume the status of a felon and can still vote (not sure if Cali is one of the states that barr convicted felons from voting sha).

On a side note, do Obi's lawyers even know the difference between a misdemeanor, felony or grand lacerny? If I pick up a parking fine in the US, would those bunch of jokers claim I can't contest as president?

It's a shame Obi didn't hire them pro bono, this case would have ended ages ago.

He is an experience criminal.

How can you lose that amount in drug money and no one wack you? He is really the Boss that orders other people death.

Penguin2:
If Tinubu is innocent of the allegations in the forfeiture order of the US Court of the District of Illinois, why has he not appealed that forfeiture order issued since 1993? Isn’t that what innocent people do?

https://saharareporters.com/2023/07/21/tinubu-hasnt-challenged-us-court-order-forfeiture-460000-narcotics-trafficking-any-court

Why are you people wasting your time? Even if it was a criminal offense and he was guilty, the law clearly states the offense must have been committed in the 10yrs preceding the election. Can you people not read? It’s there in black and white!!!

All the things. You people are fighting for in the petition are non starters.

I have not heard a single attempt at proving you actually won the election!

1. Irev is irrelevant, the Supreme Court ruled in the Osun state case

2. Certificates etc are pre election matters this has been ruled upon many times. In fact only yesterday it was ruled again in the case of Akwa Ibom governor.

3. The only case that needs to be determined in 25% of FCT and anyone with common sense knows that the Supreme Court can never rule that if a man wins 36 states but doesn’t win Abuja he cannot be president.

You people are wasting your time and giving your ers false hope.

Again I state, you are not even saying you won.

Pls and so damn what Is that now a case??

Obi pls try hard I love your defiant strenght but oga, Nigeria you will never be the president till you die, we will help you to waste your time and money wella okwa ya?

Penguin2:
If Tinubu is innocent of the allegations in the forfeiture order of the US Court of the District of Illinois, why has he not appealed that forfeiture order issued since 1993? Isn’t that what innocent people do?

https://saharareporters.com/2023/07/21/tinubu-hasnt-challenged-us-court-order-forfeiture-460000-narcotics-trafficking-any-court

Keep giving yourself and your ignoramus followers false hope. Your crying has not started. You think politics and Nigeria just started yesterday? Ode.

seunmsg:
Is there any sense in challenging an order from a civil case?

So, if VIO or FRSC fines me N5k today for traffic offense, is there any sense in wasting time challenging the order?

Since it’s a forfeiture resulting from a civil case, what’s the point fighting it? Tinubu was already a Senator when the forfeiture order was made against his . So, it makes more sense to simply allow the civil forfeiture order stand than to keep wasting money on appeal. Same way we all pay VIO and FRSC fine for traffic offense without appeal.

You are plainly stupid. A characteristic Tinubu ers. The forfeiture was a criminal one under USC 0881, not a civil one. https://www.plainsite.org/dockets/2jqi9omh8/illinois-northern-district-court/usa-v-acct-263226700-et-al/

aswani:


Are you able to show where it is mandated, in Nigeria electoral law, that INEC has to use IREV to tally the votes?

This is a genuine question that I myself am interested in.

By the way, I would like to compliment you on your use of paragraphs and incredible civility in the lack of abuse of the person of President Tinubu or INEC chairman in your submissions.

Kudos to you sir, you are definitely far from a typical Obidient and I look forward to learning from you.

By the way I don't agree with anything you wrote even though I ire the way you wrote it.

The electoral law was revised for the elections and the umpire openly told all that the results would be collated in such manner to counter any alleged discrepancy.....so why spend so much and campaign so much when you had a feeling it would fail and not help prove the authenticity of results......?
I know you're a Nigeria....yan

madridguy:
Obi should go and take some rest and allow our president breathhhhhhhh

Are Nigerians breathing under this istration?

seunmsg:
Is there any sense in challenging an order from a civil case?

So, if VIO or FRSC fines me N5k today for traffic offense, is there any sense in wasting time challenging the order?

Since it’s a forfeiture resulting from a civil case, what’s the point fighting it? Tinubu was already a Senator when the forfeiture order was made against his . So, it makes more sense to simply allow the civil forfeiture order stand than to keep wasting money on appeal. Same way we all pay VIO and FRSC fine for traffic offense without appeal.

Stop wasting your time by trying to confuse people here. I know that you know better.

Obi looking for all means hahahah

After coming 3rd

Make dem throw this mad man case away.

He is just disturbing the country.

Challenge how you won the election but you are busy saying someone is not qualified as the president.

Peter Obi. ONKR o

seunmsg:
Is there any sense in challenging an order from a civil case?

So, if VIO or FRSC fines me N5k today for traffic offense, is there any sense in wasting time challenging the order?

Since it’s a forfeiture resulting from a civil case, what’s the point fighting it? Tinubu was already a Senator when the forfeiture order was made against his . So, it makes more sense to simply allow the civil forfeiture order stand than to keep wasting money on appeal. Same way we all pay VIO and FRSC fine for traffic offense without appeal.

VIO or FRSC charge u N5M for traffic offence? Did u blow up 3rd mainland bridge?
Was your master charged $460,000 for traffic offence or for dealing in narcotics?

seunmsg:
Is there any sense in challenging an order from a civil case?

So, if VIO or FRSC fines me N5k today for traffic offense, is there any sense in wasting time challenging the order?

Since it’s a forfeiture resulting from a civil case, what’s the point fighting it? Tinubu was already a Senator when the forfeiture order was made against his . So, it makes more sense to simply allow the civil forfeiture order stand than to keep wasting money on appeal. Same way we all pay VIO and FRSC fine for traffic offense without appeal.

The implication here is that you are guilty, and that's precisely the point. The decision to forfeit a substantial sum of money suggests your guilt. Additionally, it's worth noting that if Tinubu had indeed worked for Deloitte, there would be no legitimate means for him to acquire such a large amount of money. Defending Tinubu is challenging because he has been associated with activities akin to those of a drug lord.

seunmsg:
Is there any sense in challenging an order from a civil case?

So, if VIO or FRSC fines me N5k today for traffic offense, is there any sense in wasting time challenging the order?

Since it’s a forfeiture resulting from a civil case, what’s the point fighting it? Tinubu was already a Senator when the forfeiture order was made against his . So, it makes more sense to simply allow the civil forfeiture order stand than to keep wasting money on appeal. Same way we all pay VIO and FRSC fine for traffic offense without appeal.

You can appeal it

iLoveYouToo:
What’s he challenging it for? There was a forfeiture for fvck sake, he’s not denying that. It wasn’t a criminal matter

Obi’s lawyer is trying to turn the civil forfeiture to a criminal fine.

No one actually know the cause of the forfeiture, plus the section they are relying on states clearly gives two reasons.

Amount of $460,000 in 263226700 held by First Heritage Bank in the name of Bola Tinubu represents the proceeds of narcotics trafficking or were involved in financial transactions in violation of 18 USC §1956 and 1957'.

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https:///vibes_bet

Steady Cashout!

Penguin2:

No. Narcotics is not fraud, narcotics is powder🤓

In fact, it’s dusting powder😎

Una go defend defend defend tire. Tribunal go still sack Tinubu.

This confused penguin, you are a very shameless man, since your days of ing Nnamdi Kanu & Ipob.

Penguin2:

The question is was VIO supposed to charge you a whopping N5million for mere traffic offense?

And this is a wrong analogy because Tinubu’s (not his bank ) offense was clearly written in the charge sheet - he was charged for narcotics. There’s nothing comparable between this and traffic offense.

Now, not only was he charged, he was ordered to forfeit a whopping $460,000 dollars and he never protested against it if he was truly innocent.

No legitimate hustler will allow the court confiscate his $10,000 dollars without threatening fire and brimstone, not to talk of when the money is above $400k.

Is Tinubu a Father Christmas?

No Sir. Tinubu was never charged to Court. If you have the Charge Sheet please post it. He was never charged, he never stood before the judge. This was confirmed by Obi witness who's a lawyer of 17 yrs experience. He was asked:

1. if it was a Civil Case or Criminal Case, to which he said it was a Civil Case.

2. if the Case was ed in Nigeria, to which he said it was not ed in Nigeria.

3. if the judgement was signed and stamped by the commissioner of police in the state in US, to which he said No.

4. if he has the Charge Sheet where Tinubu was charged to Court in US, to which he said he doesn't have the Charge Sheet but have the judgement.

I followed his evidence.

madridguy:
Obi should go and take some rest and allow our president breathhhhhhhh

Peter obo is useless