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skydiver01: 10:53am On Jul 21, 2023
Yes I did two days ago on the 19th as expected (see below). wink
Nakedman:


Did you get payment yet,?
Nakedman: 11:15am On Jul 21, 2023
skydiver01:
Yes I did two days ago on the 19th as expected (see below). wink

Yet to get mine. Stanbic bank
skydiver01: 12:15pm On Jul 21, 2023
I am sure it will arrive. If not today then Monday... Some custodians take longer to process the payments.
Nakedman:


Yet to get mine. Stanbic bank
hustla(m): 5:16pm On Jul 21, 2023
Please o finance gurus

Is there any probability that the spiking fx rates will nose dive in the next few months?

Or more increases to be expected?

Any pointers appreciated

Thanks
oluayebenz: 5:41pm On Jul 21, 2023
hustla:
Please o finance gurus

Is there any probability that the spiking fx rates will nose dive in the next few months?

Or more increases to be expected?

Any pointers appreciated

Thanks

It will definitely nose dive.
FX can't stay high for long.

I'm predicting 600/USD in the coming months

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hustla(m): 7:16pm On Jul 21, 2023
oluayebenz:


It will definitely nose dive.
FX can't stay high for long.

I'm predicting 600/USD in the coming months

Hmmm

600. Will the gov be looking to defend the naira like before?

Doesn't look like we can do that cos it's now floating
OgogoroFreak(m): 7:42pm On Jul 21, 2023
TotoNaRubber:
With the devaluation of Naira, it is now crystal clear that anyone who invested in ONLY Naira denominated debt instruments without hedging has depleted their life savings.

From 2015 - 2023, the value of Naira has lost more than 380% in value. This demonstrates that no matter how much you compounded in the last 8 years. It is a TOTAL LOSS !



An interesting fact
"A" had $100,000 in 2015 and decided to invest in Nigerian debt instruments. A converted the funds to Naira @ N216/$ = N21,600,000. A locked in the funds for 10 years at 17% per annum.
After 8 years, A had an interest of N29,376,000. A total of N50,376,000 was realised after 8 years.

"B" had $100,000 but was lazy and decided to leave his own in a Dom acc with interest rate of 0.3%. Interest rate after 8 years was $2,400. Today, B decided to sell. Total capital and interest of $102,400 was sold @ N835/$ = N85,500,000. ("He doesn't have to sell yet"wink

A heard what B did and said had I known. Moral of the story, investing in debt instruments of a declining economy will only make you POOR. There is a reason why Dangote is the richest man in the world yet he uses public debt instruments to fund some of his projects.


I like the dangote thing.
Nakedman: 7:58pm On Jul 21, 2023
skydiver01:
I am sure it will arrive. If not today then Monday... Some custodians take longer to process the payments.

It landed a few mins ago. It's not worth celebrating cos inflation already eaten every bit of it. So tiring

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oluayebenz: 10:38pm On Jul 21, 2023
hustla:


Hmmm

600. Will the gov be looking to defend the naira like before?

Doesn't look like we can do that cos it's now floating

Floating of fx at this present time causes panic buying which is driving it up madly.

In reality dollar shouldn't be more than 600.

I believe govt will still defend fx as it is, the corrupt people in the Nigerian financial institutions is out of the world
hustla(m): 10:50pm On Jul 21, 2023
oluayebenz:


Floating of fx at this present time causes panic buying which is driving it up madly.

In reality dollar shouldn't be more than 600.

I believe govt will still defend fx as it is, the corrupt people in the Nigerian financial institutions is out of the world


Guess we will wait and see then

Thank you

smiley
skydiver01: 8:15am On Jul 22, 2023
The 2026 FGN bond is due today. So I expect it to drop on Tuesday cheesy
IYGEAL(m): 10:41pm On Jul 24, 2023
freeman67:


Standard Chartered Bank Mobile App.

Please I would like to know, if one buys FGN Bonds from SC, will such investment be shown on CSCS?

Also, is it possible to automatically reinvest the coupons, or they get paid into one's bank ?

Finally, is the bank (SC) also the medium through which one sells at the 'secondary' market in case of need for liquidity?

Thanks in advance.
skydiver01: 5:27am On Jul 25, 2023
IYGEAL

Please I would like to know, if one buys FGN Bonds from SC, will such investment be shown or CSCS?
Most probably not

Also, is it possible to automatically reinvest the coupons, or they get paid into one's bank ?
I imagine not because bond prices change over time. Besides, you can reinvest the coupons yourself when received. Thus, the coupons simply gets paid into your

Finally, is the bank (SC) also the medium through which one sells at the 'secondary' market in case of need for liquidity?
Yes

Thanks in advance.

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emmanuelewumi(m): 6:59am On Jul 25, 2023
IYGEAL:


Please I would like to know, if one buys FGN Bonds from SC, will such investment be shown on CSCS?

Also, is it possible to automatically reinvest the coupons, or they get paid into one's bank ?

Finally, is the bank (SC) also the medium through which one sells at the 'secondary' market in case of need for liquidity?

Thanks in advance.



You can move the bond investment to your CSCS .


You need to get in touch with your Stockbroker, he will advise you on how to go about it
IYGEAL(m): 8:18am On Jul 25, 2023
skydiver01:
IYGEAL

Please I would like to know, if one buys FGN Bonds from SC, will such investment be shown or CSCS?


Also, is it possible to automatically reinvest the coupons, or they get paid into one's bank ?


Finally, is the bank (SC) also the medium through which one sells at the 'secondary' market in case of need for liquidity?


Thanks in advance.

Thanks for the responses.
IYGEAL(m): 8:19am On Jul 25, 2023
emmanuelewumi:



You can move the bond investment to your CSCS .


You need to get in touch with your Stockbroker, he will advise you on how to go about it

Thank you sir.

Will I do this after buying from the broker or the bank?

If bank, will it affect anything when I want to sell through the bank?
emmanuelewumi(m): 8:26am On Jul 25, 2023
IYGEAL:


Thank you sir.

Will I do this after buying from the broker or the bank?

If bank, will it affect anything when I want to sell through the bank?



If you buy from the Stockbroker it will automatically reflect in your CSCS statement.

If you buy from the bank, the bank is the custodian of the Investment.

You can move it from the custody of the bank to CSCS by writing a letter to that effects. Your Stockbroker will assist you with the paper and leg work .


Once it is in CSCS custody, you can only sell through the Stockbroker and not through the bank

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skydiver01: 8:57am On Jul 25, 2023
Received. Happy Days wink
skydiver01:
The 2026 FGN bond is due today. So I expect it to drop on Tuesday cheesy
freeman67: 9:21am On Jul 25, 2023
IYGEAL:


Please I would like to know, if one buys FGN Bonds from SC, will such investment be shown on CSCS?

Also, is it possible to automatically reinvest the coupons, or they get paid into one's bank ?

Finally, is the bank (SC) also the medium through which one sells at the 'secondary' market in case of need for liquidity?

Thanks in advance.


For your first question, it does not show on my CSCS . The truth is that I just opened a bank with them through the app and discovered they are efficient, reliable and have investment products I could subscribed to if interested; Like Bonds, TBs and Mutual funds local/int'l. So it's not that I actually opened an investment where I was required to get a CSCS or provide 1.

On if you can automatically reinvest coupon, I have not done back before because I have not had a need to so I cannot be certain. However, I think that will be subject to availability of the bond and the willingness of the subscriber to accept the prevailing market rate if available.

On your final question, that is an easy yes. The same page houses the buy and sell options. It is left for you to select the one you want. That said I also feel this is subject to availability of bids and offers too.

Modified

I think Oga Emma has dealt the question effectively. That should allay whatever fears you might have.

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IYGEAL(m): 10:23am On Jul 25, 2023
emmanuelewumi:




If you buy from the Stockbroker it will automatically reflect in your CSCS statement.

If you buy from the bank, the bank is the custodian of the Investment.

You can move it from the custody of the bank to CSCS by writing a letter to that effects. Your Stockbroker will assist you with the paper and leg work .


Once it is in CSCS custody, you can only sell through the Stockbroker and not through the bank

Thank you for this clarification.
IYGEAL(m): 12:07pm On Jul 25, 2023
freeman67:



For your first question, it does not show on my CSCS . The truth is that I just opened a bank with them through the app and discovered they are efficient, reliable and have investment products I could subscribed to if interested; Like Bonds, TBs and Mutual funds local/int'l. So it's not that I actually opened an investment where I was required to get a CSCS or provide 1.

On if you can automatically reinvest coupon, I have not done back before because I have not had a need to so I cannot be certain. However, I think that will be subject to availability of the bond and the willingness of the subscriber to accept the prevailing market rate if available.

On your final question, that is an easy yes. The same page houses the buy and sell options. It is left for you to select the one you want. That said I also feel this is subject to availability of bids and offers too.

Modified

I think Oga Emma has dealt the question effectively. That should allay whatever fears you might have.

Well understood.

Thanks a lot.
OgogoroFreak(m): 9:09pm On Jul 25, 2023
How true is this?

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mymadam(m): 9:17pm On Jul 25, 2023
OgogoroFreak:
How true is this?

True, very true.

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IyaTola: 7:57am On Jul 26, 2023
OgogoroFreak:
How true is this?
Super true

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OgogoroFreak(m): 2:26pm On Jul 26, 2023
IyaTola:
Super true
So we can now get upto 18% on tbills?

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skydiver01: 8:55pm On Jul 26, 2023
Kindly find below todays NTB auction results. Rates going up again wink

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enque(f): 10:03pm On Jul 26, 2023
skydiver01:
Kindly find below todays NTB auction results. Rates going up again wink

Aaahn aaahn!! What's with the high jump...rates 'on colos' grin
IyaTola: 10:21pm On Jul 26, 2023
grin
OgogoroFreak:
So we can now get upto 18% on tbills?
IyaTola: 10:22pm On Jul 26, 2023
enque:


Aaahn aaahn!! What's with the high jump...rates 'on colos' grin
Lol
OgogoroFreak(m): 11:27pm On Jul 26, 2023
IyaTola:
grin
Why u dey laugh nah? E don tey well well wey I do Naira investment. All my investment na dollar, bitco1n and business.

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OgogoroFreak(m): 11:28pm On Jul 26, 2023
skydiver01:
Kindly find below todays NTB auction results. Rates going up again wink
Make them go fvck themselves jor!

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