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Lazyyouth4u:


I never said don’t outsource to third parties o. I said lawyers add no value for the fees. You are better off giving that money to a trusted caretaker vs a lawyer. Lawyer go siddon him office and collect your rent then deduct 10 per cent for issuing receipt. Isn’t that madness?

Then when you go to him to evict one stupid tenant, he will send you one crazy bill

This not true, in the event of a tenant owing you, he will represent you but the caretaker will not represent you. Make una allow lawyer chop na, haba!

emmanuelewumi:


I don't ask my lawyer to give quit notice, he does the needful. He doesn't even want tenants to stay more than 5 years in the house, I am the one who tells him to take things easy

He gets more money by having new tenants after 5 years.

He knows his onions. Once tenants stay over 5yrs they become bone in the neck.

Leezah:
This not true, in the event of a tenant owing you, he will represent you but the caretaker will not represent you. Make una allow lawyer chop na, haba!

The lawyer will never represent you for free o. He will bill you to represent you and this is outside of the money he takes from your rent. Trust me on this.

In my opinion, you are better off separating the two responsibilities. Have a trusted caretaker collect your rent, manage your property and communicate with the tenants if you choose not to do it yourself. Only hire a lawyer when legal services are needed.

But at the end of the day, man know thyself and do whatever rocks your boat

Leezah:
He knows his onions. Once tenants stay over 5yrs they become bone in the neck.

Generalizing here. Some tenants have stayed in properties for over 10 years with no wahala.

We Nigerians sha and all our rules. Man wey him wife no dey work go hustle to find house wey landlord go accept his wife to stay at home (and gossip with fellow housewife tenants).Then he must be ready to move and go through the process again after 5 years. Naija common man have suffered

Leezah:
He knows his onions. Once tenants stay over 5yrs they become bone in the neck.

It is not true. Where iam staying, it is the new tenants that are giving the landlord and lawyer headache. Anytime, you see the lawyer very early in the morning, just know that he came for one of the new tenants. When the place was being managed by a caretaker, things were smooth as the experienced caretaker does a thorough screening of the prospective tenant to fit into the existing tenants. The landlord now handed it over to a lawyer and we have been seeing all sorts of characters. Once they pay the first rent which is usually high subsequent payments become war.

emmanuelewumi:


I don't ask my lawyer to give quit notice, he does the needful. He doesn't even want tenants to stay more than 5 years in the house, I am the one who tells him to take things easy

He gets more money by having new tenants after 5 years.

Baba be human even if your lawyer is wicked... After all, it's you past tenant will tagged bad name, not the lawyer

Lazyyouth4u:


Generalizing here. Some tenants have stayed in properties for over 10 years with no wahala.

We Nigerians sha and all our rules. Man wey him wife no dey work go hustle to find house wey landlord go accept his wife to stay at home (and gossip with fellow housewife tenants).Then he must be ready to move and go through the process again after 5 years. Naija common man have suffered

I bow o. If na our leaders do this now, dem go begin dey abuse and swear for am.

Ordinarily, why should somebody move accommodation when he is comfortable where he is?.

With this mindset of 5 years, it means i cannot be their tenant because i do not like changing accommodation unnecessarily.

just2endowed:


Baba be human even if your lawyer is wicked... After all, it's you past tenant will tagged bad name, not the lawyer

They don't know me. There was a day, I stopped over I was not allowed to come in. I had to phone the lawyer who told them they should open the gate for me.

Leezah:
He knows his onions. Once tenants stay over 5yrs they become bone in the neck.

No big deal if they are reasonable, responsible and prompt with their rents

Abeg caution your lawyer to allow your tenants to live in your house in peace, some tenants are really good and peaceful. Asking them to leave just because they have stayed more than 5yrs is inhuman, moving properties from one old apartment to a new apartment is a big challenge for many tenants, hence their decision to spend enough time in a good apartment, as long as they have peace and pay rent regularly.

Make we use sense find dis money, one day, we all gonna die and leave everything behind.

emmanuelewumi:


I don't ask my lawyer to give quit notice, he does the needful. He doesn't even want tenants to stay more than 5 years in the house, I am the one who tells him to take things easy

He gets more money by having new tenants after 5 years.

Donbrig:
Abeg caution your lawyer to allow your tenants to live in your house in peace, some tenants are really good and peaceful. Asking them to leave just because they have stayed more than 5yrs is inhuman, moving properties from one old apartment to a new apartment is a big challenge for many tenants, hence their decision to spend enough time in a good apartment, as long as they have peace and pay rent regularly.

Make we use sense find dis money, one day, we all gonna die and leave everything behind.

He needs my approval, your tenancy is renewed annually. You have the option to renew the tenancy or not, provided you have given enough notice to the other party.


People leave jobs after few months, I see nothing bad if you have policy of maximum of 5 years for your tenants.

Used to have a boss that told us, that he doesn't want us to work for him for more than 7 years.

If you work for him for more than 7 years, you will be sacked or asked to resign.

emmanuelewumi:



They don't me. There was a day, I stopped over I was not allowed to come in. I had to phone the lawyer who told them they should open the gate for me.

Doesn't mean you should follow youre lawyers wicked thought. Maybe buhari was right. Nigerians are their own problems

Donbrig:
Abeg caution your lawyer to allow your tenants to live in your house in peace, some tenants are really good and peaceful. Asking them to leave just because they have stayed more than 5yrs is inhuman, moving properties from one old apartment to a new apartment is a big challenge for many tenants, hence their decision to spend enough time in a good apartment, as long as they have peace and pay rent regularly.

Make we use sense find dis money, one day, we all gonna die and leave everything behind.

Let's forget this one that thought money is everything be it evil thought or bad.

Sometimes, the way we reason as Africans eh... I wonder if they do that outside developed countries.

just2endowed:


Doesn't mean you should follow youre lawyers wicked thought. Maybe buhari was right. Nigerians are their own problems

What is the relationship between they don't know me and someone employed to ensure compliance? Or ensuring 95% compliance is now termed wickedness


Tenancy agreement is annual, the landlord has the right to renew the tenancy if he pleases. That is why his lawyer will always write you 3 months or 6 months before the end of the tenancy that you have been a good tenant and will be interested to renew your tenancy. Which the tenant has the right to accept or reject.

emmanuelewumi:



He needs my approval, your tenancy is renewed annually. You have the option to renew the tenancy or not, provided you have given enough notice to the other party.


People leave jobs after few months, I see nothing bad if you have policy of maximum of 5 years for your tenants.

Used to have a boss that told us, that he doesn't want us to work for him for more than 7 years.

If you work for him for more than 7 years, you will be sacked or asked to resign.

The reason these renewal clauses are included in some employment contracts is to give the employer the opportunity to get rid of bad employees without the legal hassles and lawsuits that come with termination of employment contracts.

No sane employer will get rid of their best employees for no reason. Good staff are rare to find and are an employer’s biggest asset.

But at the end of the day, man know thyself

just2endowed:


Let's forget this one that thought money is everything be it evil thought or bad.

Sometimes, the way we reason as Africans eh... I wonder if they do that outside developed countries.

Rents are paid weekly or monthly. Weekly tenants have few days notice or with immediate effect, monthly tenants have 2 weeks notice. Annual tenants have 6 months notice

Lazyyouth4u:


The reason these renewal clauses are included in some employment contracts is to give the employer the opportunity to get rid of bad employees without the legal hassles and lawsuits that come with termination of employment contracts.

No sane employer will get rid of their best employees for no reason. Good staff are rare to find are an employer’s strongest asset.

But at the end of the day, man know thyself

Thank God for the man, he made all his workers to be money smart. Nobody is indispensable.

Some of his former workers are contractors, part time workers and consultants to him. And doing better by reg after 5 years

emmanuelewumi:



Thank God for the man, he made all his workers to be money smart. Nobody is indispensable.

Some of his former workers are contractors, part time workers and consultants to him. And doing better by reg after 5 years

It’s really not making sense to me at all. I have a business that I want to do well. And I need loyal, trustworthy and experienced/well trained staff to do well. Yet after 5 years, I get rid of all my workers and then go through the stress of rehiring and training

This is very unusual. You sure say no be one kain covenant the man dey carry out?

The CEO of a courier company, have a maximum of two as CEO. Each term is 3 years.

After that the CEO must resign and will be a non executive director for another 6 years. They have been doing this for the past 15 years, but it appears the current CEO does not want that

emmanuelewumi:



No big deal if they are reasonable, responsible and prompt with their rents

In your opinion, property manager or a lawyer handling your property, which is best suited for it?

emmanuelewumi:
The CEO of a courier company, have a maximum of two as CEO. Each term is 3 years.

After that the CEO must resign and will be a non executive director for another 6 years. They have been doing this for the past 15 years, but it appears the current CEO does not want that

Haba. CEO level matter especially for publicly listed companies is different na. This one is more about corporate governance. You can’t compare that to getting rid of your junior staff for no reason. This is not done in normal organizations.

Lazyyouth4u:


It’s really not making sense to me at all. I have a business that I want to do well. And I need loyal, trustworthy and experienced/well trained staff to do well. Yet after 5 years, I get rid of all my workers and then go through the stress of rehiring and training

This is very unusual. You sure say no be one kain covenant the man dey carry out?

He is not getting rid of his workers, he believes working for him is a University on its own. Learn all you need to learn and go and do big things.

Gani Fawehinmi produced the following senior lawyers, they worked with him for about 5 years and left, he even transferred some of his cases to them.

Femi Falana SAN
Festus Keyamo SAN
Prof Tayo Otetibo SAN
Ebun Adegoruwa
And many successful lawyers too numerous to

NL1960:


I bow o. If na our leaders do this now, dem go begin dey abuse and swear for am.

Ordinarily, why should somebody move accommodation when he is comfortable where he is?.

With this mindset of 5 years, it means i cannot be their tenant because i do not like changing accommodation unnecessarily.

As long as you are paying promptly

Exactly, and another reason some employees are asked to work within a certain period of time is because of secret informations the company might be hiding.. Some Engineers/Scientists working in hydro power firms or nuclear plants or sensitive biological research centres are used to this kind of contracts, they are not allowed to work beyond some certain period of time and workers are often tranferred from one unit to another, just to confuse them and ensure they don't know too many secrets about their operations.

Lazyyouth4u:


The reason these renewal clauses are included in some employment contracts is to give the employer the opportunity to get rid of bad employees without the legal hassles and lawsuits that come with termination of employment contracts.

No sane employer will get rid of their best employees for no reason. Good staff are rare to find are an employer’s strongest asset.

But at the end of the day, man know thyself

Lazyyouth4u:


Haba. CEO level matter especially for publicly listed companies is different na. This one is more about corporate governance. You can’t compare that to getting rid of your junior staff for no reason. This is not done in normal organizations.

Some people need enterpreneurial workers, you must have that ion and hunger for success before you are recruited.

They believe 7 years is enough for you to learn all you need to learn and go replicate what you have learnt, so that you can create more opportunities and more people will continue to make more money

Donbrig:
Abeg caution your lawyer to allow your tenants to live in your house in peace, some tenants are really good and peaceful. Asking them to leave just because they have stayed more than 5yrs is inhuman, moving properties from one old apartment to a new apartment is a big challenge for many tenants, hence their decision to spend enough time in a good apartment, as long as they have peace and pay rent regularly.

Make we use sense find dis money, one day, we all gonna die and leave everything behind.

Hello!!! It's a business not a charity organization. If they pay promptly why would they ask them to leave, you owe, you get kicked, in addition cut your caot according to your size. You don't have money for a 3-bedroom or 2- bedroom you are renting, then paying rent becomes a big deal

emmanuelewumi:



He needs my approval, your tenancy is renewed annually. You have the option to renew the tenancy or not, provided you have given enough notice to the other party.


People leave jobs after few months, I see nothing bad if you have policy of maximum of 5 years for your tenants.

Used to have a boss that told us, that he doesn't want us to work for him for more than 7 years.

If you work for him for more than 7 years, you will be sacked or asked to resign.

Leezah:

In your opinion, property manager or a lawyer handling your property, which is best suited for it?

Anyone of them that can put them on their toes and money are paid at the right time.


An Igbo trader, get 2 years rents from his tenants. That is what he has in his tenancy agreement.

You are expected to pay by the 18th month to enjoy 10% discount, payments made on the due date ie expiration of the rent will attract normal rent

emmanuelewumi:



He is not getting rid of his workers, he believes working for him is a University on its own. Learn all you need to learn and go and do big things.

Gani Fawehinmi produced the following senior lawyers, they worked with him for about 5 years and left, he even transferred some of his cases to them.

Femi Falana SAN
Festus Keyamo SAN
Prof Tayo Otetibo SAN
Ebun Adegoruwa
And many successful lawyers too numerous to

Gani would have liked to keep these people na. They left to go and make it on their own (plus Gani was paying them peanuts ). Gani did not ask them to leave after 5 years.

Didn’t you see how hungry and malnourished Femi Falana and Festus Keyamo looked when they worked for Baba. They did well for their kids by ‘japaing’

emmanuelewumi:



What is the relationship between they don't know me and someone employed to ensure compliance? Or ensuring 95% compliance is now termed wickedness


Tenancy agreement is annual, the landlord has the right to renew the tenancy if he pleases. That is why his lawyer will always write you 3 months or 6 months before the end of the tenancy that you have been a good tenant and will be interested to renew your tenancy. Which the tenant has the right to accept or reject.

You are right... Let me your motion to end this discussion.

Lazyyouth4u:


Gani would have liked to keep these people na. They left to go and make it on their own (plus Gani was paying them peanuts ). Gani did not ask them to leave after 5 years.

Didn’t you see how hungry and malnourished Femi Falana and Festus Keyamo looked when they worked for Baba. They did well for their kids by ‘japaing’

Haba the sky is so large. You can't have it all, he made them realise when they ed him and gave them the necessary encouragement. Some of the former workers made use of his huge library for their research.

Working for some people is not a master/slave relationship, the more the merrier.

Instead of having a billionaire in a family, it is better to have 10 people with a networth of over N100 million

In this thread eh, though it's highly educative but the kind of mindset we have against our fellow humans eh...if it were fg that's treating his people like that, we will label fg as wicked.

Let's focus on why we are here....property discussion in this thread can be stretching and derailing.