NewStats: 3,259,334 , 8,169,837 topics. Date: Saturday, 24 May 2025 at 05:46 PM h4e1h

If he does exist then why can't no one ever provide evidence for his existence.

Everyone seem to be lying and cooking up stuff of his existence.

Na wa.

Thread carefully.

Somethings are better left the way they are.

VlamesIffect:

Na wa.

Thread carefully.

Somethings are better left the way they are.

Lol.

Subtle threat.

Next na to use blackmail.

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Can you convince him otherwise?

blizard44:


Lol.

Subtle threat.

Next na to use blackmail.

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Can you convince him otherwise?

He didn't lay emphasis on the reasons why he thinks so....

Your own PERSONAL conclusion, next....

Workch:

If he does exist then why can't no one ever provide evidence for his existence.
Everyone seem to be lying and cooking up stuff of his existence.

Workch:
If he does exist then why can't no one ever provide evidence for his existence.

Everyone seem to be lying and cooking up stuff of his existence.

The god of Abrahamic faiths certainly does not exist. However I hesitate to say gods cannot exist, there is too much we don't know about this universe that we cannot arrive at that conclusion based on what we know now. It may be the case that how we describe gods is completely wrong and so we are looking in the wrong places to see these gods.

If you don't believe, tell me who born the mountains, the clouds, the rivers,the sands,the oceans,the air,the animals in the first place

He certainly does to many people of the world.

Workch:
If he does exist then why can't no one ever provide evidence for his existence.

Everyone seem to be lying and cooking up stuff of his existence.

What fills about 70% of the entire universe?

The entire universe, includes our planet earth, our solar system, our milky way galaxy and all the billions of galaxies containing stars and SPACE.

It is DARK ENERGY.
It is so abundant in the universe, yet it cannot be seen, nobody knows what makes it up or what it possibly contains. Top notch scientist can only guess at best, it cannot be measured directly itself, yet it is so abundant and we know absolutely nothing about it!

The part of the universe you can see and the part you can measure is about 5%, dark matter that you can't see makes up about 25% and what you cant see and can't measure makes up 70%, yet you believe that because something can't be SEEN or MEASURED like GOD, it is not REAL? Science says otherwise.

Meanwhile the most abundant thing in the universe DARK ENERGY cannot be SEEN or MEASURED yet science beliefs in it because INDIRECTLY they know SPACE will not behave the way it is behaving unless there is an unseen force that FILLS it called DARK ENERGY.

So what do you have to say in your defense?

He does, not not the way the religious people put it.

tatutatu:
He does, not not the way the religious people put it.

I don't know exactly what you mean but I agree with your statement that "He does".

Workch:
If he does exist then why can't no one ever provide evidence for his existence.

Everyone seem to be lying and cooking up stuff of his existence.

Cause He's a Spirit and cannot be known intellectually. The mistake you and your kind make is assuming that reason is the highest form of perception. It isn't. Reason is inferior to discernment. The five senses are not the only way to perceive things. Man possesses higher facilities.

Workch:
If he does exist then why can't no one ever provide evidence for his existence.

Everyone seem to be lying and cooking up stuff of his existence.

No need of believing the existence of God because HE do exist even if u don't believe HE do.

Bros only a fool says in his heart they is no God. You know God exists, we all know, even those famous scientists desperately seeking 'evidence' to defame God know it. It's not too late to mend your way...

Workch:
If he does exist then why can't no one ever provide evidence for his existence.

Everyone seem to be lying and cooking up stuff of his existence.

A House does not build itself and can never build itself, Some One Always builds a House. The Simplest Proof of He Whom we call God, but you are not looking for Truths you are rather looking for attention.

Going by your title you are stating that God exists.

khia:
Going by your title you are stating that God exists.

Yeah, only that he does not want to accept it.

We can not even make a sick chicken eat how much more impossible convincing a closed mind.

Dtruthspeaker:


Yeah, only that he does not want to accept it.

He said God "Doesn't Not" using a double negative which cancelled out what he meant to say and implies that he does exists.

LordReed:


The god of Abrahamic faiths certainly does not exist. However I hesitate to say gods cannot exist, there is too much we don't know about this universe that we cannot arrive at that conclusion based on what we know now. It may be the case that how we describe gods is completely wrong and so we are looking in the wrong places to see these gods.

Bro, you are getting there gradually. Hmmmm! I can see you are shifting away gradually from atheism. You cannot just ignore what is happening around. It is not possible. All Nigerian atheists became one because they were disappointed with the one you called Abrahmic god. Their religious leaders presented God in a way that is false. And when they tried connecting, they couldn't reach God. Calls didn't go through. Hmmm. So, they hated God. It is normal for anyone who uses his/her number 6 (brain).

While observing these issues and making researches, keep in mind: all these possible gods are not equal and equally efficient with the same level of power. There is hierarchy. So, who is on top of the ladder? That is the one you want to connect to. If you connect to a lesser one, you may be trapped for eternity. So, be very careful.

I was in your state some years back. Do not ignore the Abrahamic God, and do not abuse Him again. If you do not agree with Hin, just let it stop there. No need of insulting Him or any other god. You are in a stage one one cannot convince or confuse you. You must find the truth yourself. Ignore works of men and show off. Many of those confused will want to tell you about the living God they do not know. And you will want to slap the fellow. But bro, that thing called "conscience" and that your soul is hungry for the truth is why you keep searching.

Bro, you will be alright very soon. You will soon know the truth. But if possible, pick that Bible you have ignored and just read like a story book. Just keep reading sir. It may not make sense, but it will help. I have ed through the stage you are, but I didnt slip into atheism. I only questioned everything.

Finally, you are right and you will realise it later. Using logic and reasoning are wrong ways and methods to prove the existence of God.

God bless sir!

khia:


He said God "Doesn't Not" using a double negative which cancelled out what he meant to say and implies that he does exists.

yeah, I noticed! Truth Always Loves Escaping Prisons

needanswer:


What fills about 70% of the entire universe?

The entire universe, includes our planet earth, our solar system, our milky way galaxy and all the billions of galaxies containing stars and SPACE.

It is DARK ENERGY.
It is so abundant in the universe, yet it cannot be seen, nobody knows what makes it up or what it possibly contains. Top notch scientist can only guess at best, it cannot be measured directly itself, yet it is so abundant and we know absolutely nothing about it!

The part of the universe you can see and the part you can measure is about 5%, dark matter that you can't see makes up about 25% and what you cant see and can't measure makes up 70%, yet you believe that because something can't be SEEN or MEASURED like GOD, it is not REAL? Science says otherwise.

Meanwhile the most abundant thing in the universe DARK ENERGY cannot be SEEN or MEASURED yet science beliefs in it because INDIRECTLY they know SPACE will not behave the way it is behaving unless there is an unseen force that FILLS it called DARK ENERGY.

So what do you have to say in your defense?

PeaceJoyLove:


Bro, you are getting there gradually. Hmmmm! I can see you are shifting away gradually from atheism. You cannot just ignore what is happening around. It is not possible. All Nigerian atheists became one because they were disappointed with the one you called Abrahmic god. Their religious leaders presented God in a way that is false. And when they tried connecting, they couldn't reach God. Calls didn't go through. Hmmm. So, they hated God. It is normal for anyone who uses his/her number 6 (brain).

While observing these issues and making researches, keep in mind: all these possible gods are not equal and equally efficient with the same level of power. There is hierarchy. So, who is on top of the ladder? That is the one you want to connect to. If you connect to a lesser one, you may be trapped for eternity. So, be very careful.

I was in your state some years back. Do not ignore the Abrahamic God, and do not abuse Him again. If you do not agree with Hin, just let it stop there. No need of insulting Him or any other god. You are in a stage one one cannot convince or confuse you. You must find the truth yourself. Ignore works of men and show off. Many of those confused will want to tell you about the living God they do not know. And you will want to slap the fellow. But bro, that thing called "conscience" and that your soul is hungry for the truth is why you keep searching.

Bro, you will be alright very soon. You will soon know the truth. But if possible, pick that Bible you have ignored and just read like a story book. Just keep reading sir. It may not make sense, but it will help. I have ed through the stage you are, but I didnt slip into atheism. I only questioned everything.

Finally, you are right and you will realise it later. Using logic and reasoning are wrong ways and methods to prove the existence of God.

God bless sir!

Please leave that man a lone, he knows. And he also knows what awaits him.

khia:

What makes you believe that the God of Abraham doesn't exist?

He is saying God Exists!

Dtruthspeaker:


He is saying God Exists!

I know, I just saw my mistake, I posted to the wrong comment. I will make the correction.

khia:


I know, I just saw my mistake, I posted to the wrong comment. I will make the correction.

ok.

LordReed:


The god of Abrahamic faiths certainly does not exist. However I hesitate to say gods cannot exist, there is too much we don't know about this universe that we cannot arrive at that conclusion based on what we know now. It may be the case that how we describe gods is completely wrong and so we are looking in the wrong places to see these gods.

What makes you believe that the God of Abraham doesn't exist?

khia:


What makes you believe that the God of Abraham doesn't exist?

I don't believe. Not only is there no evidence such a god exists, there is evidence such a god doesn't exist.

PeaceJoyLove:


Bro, you are getting there gradually. Hmmmm! I can see you are shifting away gradually from atheism. You cannot just ignore what is happening around. It is not possible. All Nigerian atheists became one because they were disappointed with the one you called Abrahmic god. Their religious leaders presented God in a way that is false. And when they tried connecting, they couldn't reach God. Calls didn't go through. Hmmm. So, they hated God. It is normal for anyone who uses his/her number 6 (brain).

While observing these issues and making researches, keep in mind: all these possible gods are not equal and equally efficient with the same level of power. There is hierarchy. So, who is on top of the ladder? That is the one you want to connect to. If you connect to a lesser one, you may be trapped for eternity. So, be very careful.

I was in your state some years back. Do not ignore the Abrahamic God, and do not abuse Him again. If you do not agree with Hin, just let it stop there. No need of insulting Him or any other god. You are in a stage one one cannot convince or confuse you. You must find the truth yourself. Ignore works of men and show off. Many of those confused will want to tell you about the living God they do not know. And you will want to slap the fellow. But bro, that thing called "conscience" and that your soul is hungry for the truth is why you keep searching.

Bro, you will be alright very soon. You will soon know the truth. But if possible, pick that Bible you have ignored and just read like a story book. Just keep reading sir. It may not make sense, but it will help. I have ed through the stage you are, but I didnt slip into atheism. I only questioned everything.

Finally, you are right and you will realise it later. Using logic and reasoning are wrong ways and methods to prove the existence of God.

God bless sir!

Don't get it twisted, I have not moved 1 micrometer toward theism. I am making it clear that my skepticism is not limited to theism but also to atheism which has always been my position since I became an atheist. I am willing to accept the existence of gods if it can be proved they exist but I will never believe in gods.

LordReed:


I don't believe. Not only is there no evidence such a god exists, there is evidence such a god doesn't exist.

What's your evidence that Yah doesn't exist?

Dtruthspeaker:


Please leave that man a lone, he knows. And he also knows what awaits him.

I understand him very well. The issue is that he is here to find the truth. Many of them read my posts and they make sense to them. I have received many s. I wanted to get out of NL, but God keeps telling me not to. The issue is that many baby Christians here cannot explain. That man is really searching for the real TRUTH. Unfortunately, Bible's prediction is coming to fulfillment that end time fake pastors will be common. They are too many.

He will find the truth himself. Not only him,including others. Frankly speaking, with the way people are making money from religion (esp chritianity), no one with human positive reasoning will ever want to follow Christ again. But as long as they live in Nigeria, they cannot deny there are spiritual beings. And if there are spiritual being, there must be something after death. They all here who are athiest and who live in Nigeria do not cross the path of Islam and traditionalist. It is an evidence they are disappointed with God. But Reed is getting it. Wrong way is the reason we dont find God these days.

It is common sense na. Are the mods not the ones moving stories like human turning to cats and bats to front page? Americans and Europeans will not believe it na. I used to say "superstition" too. But when you visit your root, you will know the end of this world is just the beginning. Mysteries here and there. It is why God said you cannot find Him except He shows Himself. That is a big mystery sir. When you find God and your eyes are opened....ha...you will never want to buy food from any Nigerian open market place again. Never. You will prefer to carry your money to shoprite or Spar (expensive grocery stores) and buy instead of going to open Nigerian markets. Bros, I dont mind it these days. I dont want to see what will make me think all day again cos I need to concentrate on other valuable things.

I am happy the story of TB Joshua is loud.

They said there is no God, yet smaller gods are boasting around. Is it not in this NL front page stories we read about elderly naked women found in strange places: on top of high roofs, inside closed drainage system locked there, and you begin to wonder - how did this very weak old woman get there? How come? You can see how fragile she is, and then you imagine the kind of power she uses to climb to that place. Oh! Benin Airway is real oooo.

Education should not make us dull, but we need to start asking questions and not just laugh when some stories are reported. I do not even understand how someone with a polytechnic or university degree cannot question some stories and just make too hasty comment like: it's fake. But can they not even think deeply there may be other side of the coin? No one is saying they must accept the story immediately, but they can see traces of path they can follow to get the truth. They are in Nigeria and not abroad na. What is wrong with people?

I pity people with African origin who haven't attempted to visit home. Men with spiritual insights like TD Jakes went for DNA test. Many thought he did it for fun. Lol. It is deeper. Yet, many here with a Nigerian parent are still observing from far and saying some thing are false. I am sorry for them. When they already know where their root is and they dont attempt to visit to get answers. Meanwhile, deperate person like TD Jakes had to do DNA test to get his root. Life is not balanced at all.

Then, you start thinking. Where should I belong? You choose freemason, illuminati, Ogboni, or any strange fraternity you are locked forever in deep condemnation. They won't knw at the initial stage.

The ion and zeal to get Knowledge is why people fall into bad things. But finding God is so hard now. Very hard. It is like in the days of Samuel when God's words were so scarce and Eli the prophet too didnt hear from God also. But God spoke to the child called Samuel. Where? In his room.

Yet people seek miracles outside these days. They seek God on the mountains, in valleys, etc. Even Elijah experienced turbulence and noises. But where did he find God? Though a gentle whisper. Let them keep finding God with logic and reasoning na. Let them.keep going from one pastor to another for miracles. Lol.

The evidences are there. We can all see them. We know cos they are so evident in Nigeria. The days of Eli is around again.

See, Jehovah Witnesses know some truths, but where I disagree with them is the hopelessness they preach. My God is filled with hopes. If we search God as a nation, He will respond to us. This is God. Not that we wait till after death to find God. This is my issue with those Jehovah witnesses. And it is a tool of the devil also. He blinded them.

So, you see the so many confusions around. And this is the end time game of the devil. So, it is very easy to say there is No God. But someone like LordReed is going to find the truth very soon again. He just needs to be consistent. He will if he doesnt just shut himself away from God completely.

LordReed:


Don't get it twisted, I have not moved 1 micrometer toward theism. I am making it clear that my skepticism is not limited to theism but also to atheism which has always been my position since I became an atheist. I am willing to accept the existence of gods if it can be proved they exist but I will never believe in gods.

Bro, I understand you. I am not twisting it. I respect your view too. Maybe in those days, I would have started argument with you.

The word "skeptism" above is what I am working on. Bro to believe God is hard now. I am.saying it that many dont know God. Even those here abusing you. They dont.

That willingness that you can believe the existence is what I am saying you should stand on. And you will find the truth soon.

But what I saying is that...do not close your eyes to the possiblity there may be God. If you find proofs for the existence of some gods, my point is that they are on different levels. So, you will want to know the one at the top. And that one is God. Simple. So be opened minded. That's all.

PeaceJoyLove:

Bro, I understand you. I am not twisting it. I respect your view too. Maybe in those days, I would have started argument with you.

The word "skeptism" above is what I am working on. Bro to believe God is hard now. I am.saying it that many dont know God. Even those here abusing you. They dont.

That willingness that you can believe the existence is what I am saying you should stand on. And you will find the truth soon.

But what I saying is that...do not close your eyes to the possiblity there may be God. If you find proofs for the existence of some gods, my point is that they are on different levels. So, you will want to know the one at the top. And that one is God. Simple. So be opened minded. That's all.

As far as the Abrahamic god is concerned there is nothing to be open minded about. That god doesn't exist period. On the other hand, I am open minded about the general concept we describe as gods.