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Olu317: 1.Oranmiyan didnt he simply changed the dynasty, like ile-ibinu or ubini or benin kingdom are exonyms igodomigodo is the true name of the benin kingdom 2 That is true 3.Also true 4. True 5. True 6.Source or citation to back this claim ? 7.Yes thats true 8. true 9.Source or citation yet again |
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Olu317: Have you Got any sources backing this ludicrous claim or are you pulling shit from your ass 1 Like 1 Share |
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samuk: 1. Yes that is true out of all the nigerian kingdoms Benin has been extensively recorded compared to the rest except Kanem and the hausa states to an extent 2. Also true 3.Thats true to an extent Benin tradition says that ife sent a prince to benin to claim the position of oba on the behest of the edo elders or "uzama" 4 Not neccesarily an ife sculpture was taken from the palace of the oba showing some links Phase two 1 I do because of said sculpture found in the palace also during the reign of the warrior kings the obas had not invaded ife but towns that used to be under its control were taken,and its never explained why? 2 Personally oduduwa being Yoruba or edo means nothing both kingdoms (Benin and yoruba kingdoms) have cultures which claim him but are both different peoples cultures and languages,but personally i see him as being neither as nothing but a migrant leader into ife during the war with the drunken king obatala No i do not beleive oduduwa fell from heaven or is from saudi arabia unless others have proof |
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Hello Nairalanders my name Tshepo Ajayi i am from Behchuana,My father is NIgerian specifically Bini and Yoruba and My mother from botswana I have always been interested in history in fact I major it in uni and coming from a bini-yoruba background i have a lot of historical heritage from of course these two ethnic groups and my two favourite civilisations are benin and ife and there relationship is something i wish to explore with the knowledge of the nairalanders and of course nigerians in this forum to explore it FULLY of course these things can get quite tribalistic as i have observed SO HERE ARE THE RULES 1. NO opinions to be thrown about without proof etc Sources,citations from experts on the subject (but this must also be be sourced) or traditions 2. NO BIGOTRY no bigotry shall be thrown around in this thread no matter how flustered or angry you are KEEP YOUR COMPOSURE yes i am talking about people like TAO11 or gregyboy or davidnazee who attack tribes for a little debate on nairaland ![]() 3. If you wish to debunk a statement please use sources and actual proof no emotions or such or stupid opinions 4. Statements are allowed to be made at first but can only be debunked with proof Now of course i have my opinions with the relationship feel free to debunk with sources NOW these opinions are 1.Ife did not necessarily have a subservient relationship with benin but benin saw ife as a sort of religious site as ife has a strong religious affinity with benin thought benin has many differences in religion with ife 2 I wouldn't go as far to say that Benin was a vassal to ife but ife did have superiority and benin probabaly had ife dominated markets i do believe this ended after the oba ewuare came into power 3 The infamous "Oghene" from portuguese adventures to the itsekiri coast then occupied by benin, my professor (a man versed in african history) doesnt like the way that people use to give validity to kingdoms nearby benin superiority,the information given is iffy at best and details vague, did the portuguese see this process of handing of a brass head and symbols of authority?, or is it a misunderstanding and how did they gather this informatiion,also they never were never at the kings court in benin just near the gates by their description of the place,also where is this transfer in the traditions of benin or ife? 4 No low quality content in the form of none backed sources and of course stupid opinions like benin ruled to "ivory coast!!" and stuff like that 1 Like |
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TAO11: Ekalahederan |
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TAO11: Im sorry but do you have quotes from traditional monarchs or any sources for these claims and to say that the itsekiri werent conquered is false considering up till the times of nana of olomu were oaying tribute to benin |
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