NewStats: 3,264,513 , 8,183,973 topics. Date: Wednesday, 11 June 2025 at 11:39 AM 5l1v4y

ThatFairGuy:

Warp. Who told you Fashola isn't loyal to Tinubu?
Fayemi's own is because of his ambition to become vice president to Hausa candidate which Yorubas won't cause we owns the PRESIDENTIAL ticket.
Akeredolu is just governorship ambition which Tinubu has left for him. There is no battle to lose among them. NOTE THAT

Imagine this line of thinking @bolded.

Pure undiluted tribalism, not for the sake of your tribe, but out of pure lust for power.

Better IPOB, at least theirs seems defensive of their tribesmen.

Tribalism is tribalism, though.

But that of you uncouth Tinubu ers is becoming sickening.

Mo gbe oo

This man writes.

I'd rather wait and see what comes of the NEC meeting before assuming he's down.

Also, it's not nice kicking a man when he's down.

Joylove2324:

While you are always on his thread to bad mouth him. Hatred is a disease and it will only damage your heart more.

Hatred for Osinbajo? Me?

Lol. You must really rate yourselves so highly.

I don't feel hatred for him, please. Just disappointment. Tell him that's how Nigerians feel about him. I know you're his aide.

Maybe he can still redeem himself...

TheRareGem1:
The developed world have long gone deriving the benefits in single window, therefore those in developing world cannot afford to do otherwise and so should Nigeria.
We must in every way ready to kick start the VP's master plan for economic recovery growth and plan goal.

Same person as Joylove2324. Media assistants to Osinbajo.

Go and tell him that we no longer have any belief in him or whatever he stands for.

He has been given 8 years to change our history. But he chose to change his .

Good luck to him.

And Goodbye.

Joylove2324:
Does the Vice President rest at all? always on a working mode.... We are so lucky to have him as our VP.

You again. Always on Osinbajo threads hyping him. If he's good at his job, he won't need you to do that...

Intelligent responses.

Though I can't tell if they're sincere.

At first, they told us we needed a Sovereign National conference.

At some point, constitutional amendment.

Then GEJ held a National Conference, after which his government courageously allowed a little progressive change in the electoral system, and as a result of that change, lost power to them.

They then ridiculed the National Conference to no end. They threw away the outcome of the conference, stated that Nigeria is okay as currently structured. That our only problem is corruption. That PDP's misrule for 16 years was our worst mistake.
They said we do not need restructuring, that State Police is unnecessary. That our Police is enough.
They defended Baba's 97%/5% policy. They made appointments dependent on what tribe's genes you carry. That merit doesn't matter when the President loves Nigeria, is well-intentioned, and is fighting corruption.
At a point, an independent legislature became the scapegoat for our national problems. Because Baba needs the of everyone in government. Dissenting views aren't welcome.

Today, Baba owns the legislature. Yet, for some reason, these legislators are still the problem, because they won't vote themselves out of existence.

Now that it's clear that nothing is working, what do they tell us? That we need a NATIONAL DEBATE.

Back to square one. National Conference Debate.

Please, how did they convince anyone that they'll be good for Nigeria?

TheRareGem1:


It is not a national confab.

What Osinbajo is saying is that if cost of governance will be cut, the executive, judiciary and legislature must agree. This is a crystal clear statement by the VP that doesn't need to be twisted.

It's not a national confab. It's a national debate. We read that correctly. They are still trying to tell us another story again.

Anyway, thanks for the attempt at clarification, but you cannot make addendum to Osinbajo's words seeing as you're not Osinbajo, nor are you his media representative. Or are you?

LOAD.

This means the electrical devices, machines and equipment plugged into the power supply. Think of the power supply as a donkey and the plugged in equipment as the load.

If the load is too much for the donkey, it will collapse. And if you have just a little load, you don't need to look for the strongest donkey in the market.

When all the equipment are plugged in and powered on, we say the circuit is on FULL LOAD.

VOLTAGE

This simply means the electrical force. It is measured in volts with symbol V, eg 12v.

It can be AC or DC. AC is the type that comes from PHCN. DC is the type that comes from batteries.

It is generally believed that DC does not shock in small quantities, while AC shocks even for tiny currents. But I advise caution with both AC and DC. Also, apart from shocking, there are several other risks associated with electricity which we'll do well to warn you of as we go.

VOLTAGE RATING
Electrical and electronic devices have what we call voltage rating. This rating describes the kind of electrical power needed to power the device. It specifies if the device uses AC or DC. It specifies the amount of voltage needed to power it.

More on voltage ratings:

To charge your phone, for instance, you have to plug your charger into the wall socket. This is because the charger uses AC.
But the phone needs DC to charge its batteries. So the charger takes AC from the wall socket and gives out DC to the phone. So when you check the power rating of the charger, you'll see INPUT power and OUTPUT power.

For other simple devices, they simply take AC and do their work. There is no output power.

Take note of these small differences.

In deciding what and what we need for our solar power, a number of things determine the kind of setup we do, chief of which is our budget.

But keep in mind that as I noted earlier, solar power is accessible to everyone, not just the rich. I mean, everyone.

Also, as we continue, I might be using some technical bogus-sounding which a number of us would be unfamiliar with.

Not to worry. Ignore their big names. I would do my best to explain and break them down as we go.

BaEnki:
Thanks so much for sharing this sir @Mordecai.

I have just a question, please how can I dual charges(PHCN) the system? I don't wanna use just the sun.

Thank you.

You would just need to buy an inverter with an inbuilt charger. You would simply plug in the inverter to the mains. However, you would need your electrician to ensure the inverter circuit is separated from the PHCN circuit.

In everything you do, do not compromise your safety, please.

NB: By mains , we mean power from PHCN.

Elxandre:
I want just inverter and battery(ies) to power basic electronics set up, PS4, charge my devices, couple of fans.
Maybe to run for like 12 hours daily in the absence of Nepa.
How much would it cost?

Note no need for solar.

I will be explaining how to calculate your electrical load, so that you can on your own, make the decision according to your budget, and not depend on some professionals that are just out for massive profits.

Just like in buying a car, you can spend 70 million, while another spends 400k.

It's not really difficult, I assure you.

Throwback:
Has anyone noticed that a notorious tribe of ingrates are always ing back-stabbers, yet they always lament the most about betrayal?

Their most prominent desire in politics is betrayal and ingratitude, which they project in the political affairs of their own region and actively campaign for such in the politics of every other region.

For them, it is a must to always the treacherous ingrate who was helped, while vilifying the benefactor as a demon who must be destroyed.


This is the same tribe that every governor they have had, have always betrayed the benefactor that got them into office.

Enugu
Chimaroke Nnamani vs Jim Nwobodo
Sullivan Chime vs Chimaroke Nnamani

Anambra
Mbadinuju vs Sir Emeka Offor
Peter Obi vs APGA / Ojukwu family
Obiano vs Peter Obi

Abia
Theodore Oji vs Orji Kalu

A tribe of backstabbers such that no clansman politician manages to get to the top before he is pulled down by his own people.

Azikiwe betrayed Biafra.
Ojukwu ran away as a historic coward and returned to Fulani party.
Ojukwu was betrayed by his people and lost Senate in 1983 and Presidency in 2003.

Kanu betrayed his IPOB zombies by calling upon them to come and face a fatal battle with the Nigerian Army who he claimed were attacking him, meanwhile the terrorist had already fled the area with his beloved Mum and Dad. His only regret of his cowardice when he showed up after hiding for over 1yr, was that he was unable to flee with his dog who so perished. While Kanu betrayed his ers, his dog stood his ground like a man that Kanu wasn't, showing that animals of the zoo have more courage than a life-loving, porn-filming, death-baiting affliction to his own people.


Amaka disappoint the whole world with betrayal and a continuous desire to promote treachery.

Why are you always filled with bitterness and hate?

psucc:
op abeg school don dismiss or we dey for breaktime?

I'm very much around. Work demands on my time is high now, but I'll get back to it soon.

Apologies.

oblo:
I have been following this thread and I must say its been so educative. Thanks for this.

I also do have a solar setup BUT I opted for the DC option.

Breakdown of my setup

2nos 80 watts solar Got both them on jiji for 18k @9k each though used oo. But they looked preety new so....

Solar charge controller (Jumia@6k+)

3 DC led light tubes (1k each)

2 DC fans (small one 4k or so and bigger one.. I had lying around bought years ago


1 DC tv
1 GOtv decoder

For now I use mostly the lights + fans and the run almost 24 hours. This is so because I have not gotten around to buy a Deep cycle battery. I just use on the interim 2 old car batteries for now I had lying around and are already not at full capacity again . They serve me well at least till they give up totally

When I get the inverter battery I would use the tv 24/7 or less when there is PHCN power.

And maybe as time elapse and funds come in I would also add more s and led tubes etc.

Been running the setup for a year now and no hassles. This setup saves me fuel and running cost of my generator and except there is power failure for more than 2 days or so do I run it to power the freezer or run the washing machine.. Else... All man dey your dey.. We kukuma have lights, TV and Fan..

That's the real deal, my brother.

Thumbs up...

Casemiro:



Thanks for your time.

so 20k can help set up solar

Sure. Think of it like clothing. You can buy some for 500. Some cost 5k. Some cost 500k.

Total even sells some solar devices for 12k.

It all depends on what you want.

Still laughing

Casemiro:



thanks for your elaborate clarification.

Just wanted to understand better how this works before venturing into it.


Please sorry for my questions.

What could be the cheapest package one can get on a solar system?


is it possible to get a very small to connect just to PC, and maybe an extension?

Your questions are welcome. It's fine.

Solar power has many uses. I have seen someone set up a solar system just for his POS terminal and laptop in his shop. From what he told me, it cost him less than 20k.

The cost of your system is determined by the expected use.

The five components I listed is about everything you need for it. So, you can make adjustments to the capacities of each of them as necessary to fit what you need it for.

As I have suggested, don't look for complete packages, especially if you are on a budget. Consider the costs, component by component.

Soon, I'll explain how to make the necessary calculations in getting your components.

Stay alive, bro. And stay strong. Your loved ones need you around...

daddytime:


I've done so you might want to check through on the thread.

Shiiit wasn't funny oh. Literally saw my life flash right before me.

Na so I dey beg doctors to just give me injection even if na the one wey go just make me sleep and not wake up. I was in severe pains. Could neither seat up on the bed nor lay still.

People who follow me on here would have noticed my absence or lack of activity in the last month. I was battling to stay alive and I won the battle.

feelme3:
Thank you for this informative thread.

I have a question. If I am on the Solar power, say on a hot and sunny afternoon. Will the power be recharging from the sun simultaneously thereby giving longer hours or does it discharge completely after a certain period of time regardless?

The rule of thumb is this:

If more power is coming in than the one being used, the battery charges. If more power is being used than is coming in, it discharges.

For instance, if I have a 200w solar and it is sunny, while I have a total load of 100w on, the battery will be getting more power than it is giving out. It'll be getting charged.
If the total load is about 200w, it won't get charged, but won't get discharged either. But if the total load is about 300w, it will be getting discharged.

That's the general idea of how it works.

Casemiro:


thanks. I want to get more info about it before buying.

please can you share photos of the mono s and charge controller, possibly one you use .

Please which solar manufacturer do you recommend. Just like there are different phone manufacturers

I use monocrystalline s. They are actually more efficient than polycrystalline s. Though they cost more. I really have not looked into solar manufacturers, maybe because solar s have a long lifespan, as much as 25 years.

I really can't check mine, cos I'll have to climb the roof

But below is a picture of the solar controller I use where I am at the moment, somewhere up north. I use it with a 1200VA mercury inverter, a 100AH battery, and two solar s, each 18V 100W.

Now let us continue with setting up our solar power generator...

It's time now to hang our solar s and connect it to our battery.

The solar s need to be placed in a position where they can get maximum sunlight throughout the day. In that spot, there should be minimal casting of shadows on the . Also, we need to avoid placing them in positions where they can be tampered from time to time.

This is why the roof is the preferred spot for hanging solar s.

So, we carry our to the preferred spot and place it, with the dark crystalline surface facing up.

We will then connect our cable ( the 16mm cables we purchased?) to run from the solar to the solar charge controller.

Under the solar , there is a little box as in the picture below:

There are two wires sticking out of the box, one marked (+) and the other (-).

Connect the red cable to the wire marked (+). The length should run all the way to the solar charge controller. Then connect the other black cable to the wire marked (-).

If both your cables are the same color, then mark the cable connected to the (+) wire. You can do this by putting a cellotape round both ends of the cable. This is important as we need to ensure we do not mix up the (+) point with the (-) point.

Secure your in position so that it cannot shift or move about. A strong wire can tie it down or you use another method. This depends on your unique circumstances.

Run the other end of the cables to your solar charge controller.

Recall the six points indicated on the controller earlier? It's reproduced again below.

Connect the red or marked cable to point marked 1 as in the diagram, on the controller. Ensure it is firmly connected, then connect the other cable to the point marked 2. Fasten it properly too.

The solar controller is an "intelligent" device. It will automatically read the battery capacity and the solar ratings accordingly.

The display on the controller should come up. You do not really need to change any settings on it. They're intelligent enough to make regulate your charging automatically.

Now your solar generator is all set up. Enjoy.

Casemiro:



Thanks for this.


Please how much can I get the 100watt solar .

and the charge controller.

A mono 100w solar might cost about N20k to N22k. A poly 100w , about N16k.

I recommend looking up the prices on online stores before buying from our local retailers. And when checking online, ignore the outrageous prices some sellers put up.

As for solar charge controllers, a 30A PWM solar controller should cost between N9k to N10k, or less. Don't pay more than that.

psucc:
@Modrdecai

You are simply wonderful! This is from a pure heart of gold. You made my search.

I follow this class with all amount of seriousness.

Ride on!

Thanks a lot for the encouragement.

maxjax:


ok.

wheres your location bro?

You can PM me, please.

Back to our solar generator set up...

After connecting the battery to the solar controller, and the battery to the inverter, it's time to test the connection.

It's simple. Just push the inverter power button!!

The power indicator on the inverter should light up.

Plug in a phone charger on the socket at the back of the inverter. The phone should begin charging.

You can go ahead and plug in the inverter load selected for you by the electrician.

The inverter is ready for use !!!

One thing though - we are yet to connect the solar .

You're almost through, though.

greenhulk:


Bros na wa oh. So after spending 250k on power I still won't be able to use my refrigerator or washing machine? Omo las Las we all need generator in one way or the other. A 120k generator can power 2 refrigerators and a washing machine with 3 TV's, all light bulbs, 3 fans, PlayStation 4, etc. In fact some can even power a 1hp AC. Can still be used to pump water. To get a solar energy that can do all these how much would one need? Probably up to 1 million.

For me generator is inevitable even when u have solar. Its in this order: phcn- generator- solar (in order of importance).

While it sounds cheaper to get a 120k generator to power all the items you listed, you might need to sit back, and recalculate the real cost of running that petrol generator.

I own a 4.4kw generator. While it can do everything you listed, I found out the hard way, that it did so at enormous cost.

First of all, at minimal load, it consumes a liter of petrol per hour. With the utilities you listed plugged on, the consumption skyrockets. I know this because, mine runs my washing machine (LG side load machine, I believe it's power efficient), my microwave cooker, my refrigerator, lighting and fans, TV and decoder, and all other small devices like chargers. But I would also tell you that I really paid good money to keep it running. Petrol, engine oil, servicing, plugs, rope etc. At a point, it appeared we lived to serve the generator, and not the other way round. We would spend some nights in the dark because it was in servicing.
I can tell you, without a shadow of a doubt that spending 250k on the solar power was one of my best decisions. For almost two years, I forgot I had a generator. PHCN filled in just fine.

My brother, my brother, when you enjoy the convenience this system brings, you'll not turn back again.

Even when we had just the petrol generator, we do not put it on just to run the refrigerator or washing machine. If we needed it, it was for lighting, the fans, charging our devices and watching TV. All those were additional benefits, which come with increased fuel consumption.

On the other hand, with my solar power, I spent 250k and that was it. The only thing renewable in it was the batteries. After 2 years. If I spend 100k on that, it could take me another 2 years again without hassles. That's 350k in four years. 450k in 6 years. That's real cheap, bro.

I chose to increase the battery capacity.

To get my present system to run my refrigerator, I would simply buy a 3.5kva inverter. That will cost me 160k. Same thing your generator will cost you after 2 years. But while I'd go in and sleep afterwards, you'd be at the fueling station buying petrol.

Lastly to set up a system to take all those things would cost me about 850k, assuming from scratch. If I decide to buy from China directly, it'd be cheaper.

And I'll be fine for about 3 years. Then buy batteries for a cheaper amount. Because the cost of batteries will keep decreasing, not increasing, unlike the cost of generators.

maxjax:


some guys also connect a 75aH or 100aH even 200aH batteries to UPS 650va...1200va....1500va....2200va...etc and use them as inverts. whats your advice on that?

It is quite workable, and can serve. However, it can only replace the inverter unit. You will still need the other components of the solar generator.

Also, you will need to make certain adjustments to the UPS circuit, as it contains some circuit breakers and other such stuff.

On another note, getting an inverter off the shelf is a lot more cheaper than this, and more effective.

@agarawu23, @fashrola, the mppt solar controller works better than the PWM, and is actually more expensive.

Ournolly chose to buy the best of what he needed. It could be his personal preference or as advised by his technicians.

It will serve him in good stead whenever he decides to upscale his generator to say 5kva. So, at this point, I'm happy for him and pray he derives maximum benefits from it.

We'll also appreciate it if he can update us with his experiences from time to time to guide most of us starting up on the solar journey.

After his second year, he'll be the one dishing out orders to the technicians, I'm sure

Now, it's time to setup our solar controller, inverter and battery.

A typical PWM controller has 6 points as indicated in the diagram below.

There are six points on the controller labelled 1 to 6.



On the battery there are two points labelled (+) and (-).

On the inverter, there are two points, red and black.

Now do this carefully:

Using the cables, connect, point 4 on the controller to the (-) point on the battery.

Then connect point 3 on the controller to the (+) point on the battery.

I'd advise you first connect the solar controller end, then the battery end. When you connect the second battery point, there might be a spark. Expect it. It's normal.

Note to tighten the connections properly. Loose connections can cause partial , leading to power loss, battery drain and can damage your equipment.

Next, we'll connect the battery to the inverter.

Connect the red point in front of the inverter to the (+) point on the battery.

Then connect the black point in front of the inverter to the (-) point on the battery.

Double check that your connections are tight and not shaky.

See below a picture of the recommended battery connection cables.

After buying the equipments needed for the solar power generator, our next task is to prepare our home for the solar power system.

We'll now carry out an activity known as LOAD SELECTION.

This is quite technical, so you would want to hire an experienced electrician to do it for you.

The objective is to select the lighting points, and the devices expected to be powered by the solar power generator.

The electrician will open the junction box, identify your lighting points, fans, as well as designated sockets for the solar system.

Those points will then be disconnected from the general power grid and rerouted towards your inverter. They are all to be connected to an extension head that will fit into the socket behind the inverter. You can check out the inverter picture in my earlier post for reference.

Very important: The sockets selected should be clearly marked. Every member of the household should be made aware that on no is any high power appliance to be plugged into those sockets.

For the purposes of our low-budget generator, only phone chargers, laptop chargers, or clippers can be plugged in. In fact any other device with a power rating above 10w should not be plugged into the socket.

If there is any doubt about the power rating of the device, don't plug it in.

Plugging a high power device on the system can lead to burning of the inverter and reduction of battery life.

zenith4biz:
Good evening, the current market price of some of the equipment.

500w inverter #5000 1000w is #7,500

Charge controller #4,500

Thanks for the info, zenith4biz. It appears they are even quite cheaper than I thought.

Ournolly:

I don't clearly have the list. Made payment last week and expecting it to arrive on Monday.

The people in charge gave me two options because I requested for the strongest battery - Monbat and Quanta. I picked Monbat which costs 145k each.

300 x 3 mono solar 42k each.
1 Diamond mppt solar charge controller @50k
Wire and workman @50k or thereabout.

Everything is not clear yet but they requested for 650k which according to them will take care of everything.

Expecting them on Monday.



I am no multi millionaire but I won't refer myself as low income earner.

Congratulations on crossing over to the league of independent power generators/consumers. At some point, you would not understand it when people ask you, "you get light for your estate?"

When I decided to begin using solar power, a friend of mine recommended that MTN solar device that costs 4500 monthly for 5 years. After looking at it, and seeing they were clearly ripping Nigerians off, I decided to explore solar energy on my own.

The biggest impediment to having solar power was the tendency of the solar power resellers to place a high price on otherwise cheap items.

They offered me a 1.2kva/100ah installation for 300k. I ignored them, struck out on my own and eventually set up a 2.4kva/200ah system, for about 250k inclusive of cabling and installation. These included two monocrystalline solar s of 250w each. The only extraneous cost was that of hiring a scaffold to take the s to the roof.

When I decided, after two years to upgrade my batteries, I got two Viforce batteries 210ah each for 190k less shipping costs. That is 95k apiece. I have ordered for another 250w at 36k. Little by little, I can simply get another inverter, and add my refrigerator to the circuit.

I have also observed these resellers servicing people's inverters monthly and I know they are just exploiting their customer's ignorance. In case you don't understand, servicing an inverter is like servicing a television. They don't need any servicing.

This is partly why I am posting this thread. If people know they can generate their own power cheaply, we would be able to set off our own micro industrial revolution in Nigeria.

Our offices, hospitals and schools will benefit. Our dependence on government for power will dwindle. Our homes will have cleaner air. Our night sleep will have less noise disturbances caused by petrol generators. All at a meager charge to our wallets.

I wish you the best of luck on your solar power journey. Encourage others to hop on the train too. Hopefully, one day our country will be better than Korea...