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Henry240:


That's very odd for an attack helicopter. This means it carries a gun pod?

Yes.

Carries rocket pods and missiles like the Blue arrow.

newafricaken254:
south africa air force Atlas Oryx utility helicopter

Atlas in now Denel.

Henry240:

Where is it's gun?

Doesn't have a chin mounted gun.

Nok234:

Ok I think that we are on the same subject, what im saying is that the edge ATGM had on tanks has reduce with ive/active PS but ATGM like you said are very good. (I havnt said ATGM are obsolet to but are less effective or maybe going to be obsolet against modern day tanks ). An example is with Trophy on the Merkava. No tanks were damaged during Operation Protective Edge, with the Trophy Active Protection system performing over a dozen interceptions of anti-tank weapons including Kornet, Metis and RPG-29.
For sure ATGM are very used, build it in the country will be a better investment than buy it from another country. Why I want a tank because it is more easy to buy a ATGM during a heavy fight than buy a tank when you are under fire. Im not expert in military thats why I listen to experts and they basicly all agree attack is the best defense.
And in APS Russians has the lead they are the first to devolp it and say that the APS used on Armata is the best in the world...

There is a move to produce munitions capable of hitting vehicles with AP systems(eg Denel's proposed stealth Ingwe missile). There just isn't a huge need for those yet.

There is no such thing as "best in the world" that system might not perform well in Africa. Similar the SA system had to undergo changes for the European environment.

chkil0:

this guy behind is enjoying the view

jakeporeshenko:
What navy is this?, looks like this picture was taken at a parade.

Namibia?

kikuyu1:


True but look at the Indian LCH 50% cheaper than yours. My point remains: you should've gone for a more basic lite design cause now you're competing with the Apache and Euro Tiger,pushed by heavy weight global politics.
Here's what one of your websites says:
http://www.engineeringnews.co.za/article/what-went-wrong-with-the-rooivalk-2007-06-08-1

it was designed to operate in high threat environments.

It wasn't designed for the export market.

In of capabilities the Rooivalk can't be compared to the LCH.

jln115:

The weight of the pilots balls must be what's causing the Rooivalk to fly that low.

chkil0:


thats extremely low

Apparently since wasn't yet in operational service with SAAF your air force wasn't impressed.

lionel4power:
everything is wrong with a trainer being used in combat roles. its not right it only shows that the air force is unserious with its defense.

At the maximum a trainer can only carry two 250kg bomb with two rocket pods. with that bombload how many aircraft or how many sorties do you think you would need before you put an enemy base out of commission?

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NO wonder some country battle insurgents for donkey years because of improper use of systems.

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A trainer is A TRAINER irrespective of the bells and whistles.

Then nuclear armed South Africa used it's LEAD-IN fighters in secondary combat roles.

Racks enable more loads to be carried.

EMW01:
KDF with what appears to be AH -1 huey cobra helicopters

Awesome!

This will finally put an end to those Mi-28 stories.

kabe1:


The Nigerian Big Foot MRAPs have proven to be very effective in combat.

You cannot compare a basic APC to a vehicle designed to counter IEDs. This is were you are wrong.

That's a South African design.

giles14:
@nemesis
what is wrong with ur SU30.
Malaysia china Algeria Russia all fly the same craft but India crash rate is getting too high.

it's Time u investigate HAL

The frequency of flights?

Like saying why SA Gripens haven't crashed while others have in Europe.

chkil0:
Algeria : Three killed in crash of military helicopter AW 101 Merlin ,algerian Navy

21/05/2017
During a night patrol on the Blida-Tipaza axis, a rescue helicopter belonging to the Naval Forces was crashed on Sunday at 9.40 pm after having struck high-voltage power lines , causing the death of the of its crew, composed of three officers.


RIP

Sad loss.

R.I.P.

cdoffx:
pls am sorry if this question is off topic but I know people with much military knowledge are here. who is more powerful between chief of defence staff and chief of army staff? some guys said CDS can't mobilize troop hence making the COAS strategically more powerful

The COAS is under command of the CDS.

The CDS has the navy, air force & army under his command.

jakeporeshenko:

That's a lot of millimeters... what's the size of the guns on SAS Amatola and co?

76mm.

From the Strikecraft.

newafricaken254:
last week alshabaab placed an IED which destroyed this kenya police vehicle,the picture i have posted .injuring several officers,today they placed another IED but instead it blew up their vehicle

jakeporeshenko:
Algerian navy Meko frigate.
Pic 3: *just in case the giant main gun misses it*

127mm naval gun.

nemesis2u:


what about nuclear torpedo ?

Indians were pretty much interested in a Soviet torpedo-testing facility at Issyk-Kul lake in the eastern Kyrgyzstan

they were looking into soviet manuals etc relating to such , in the guise of testing conventional torpedoes, the news died up pretty quick , but this is where things get interesting.

raw was involved in the negotiations lol


on a serious note does SA have any DEW/laser based weapons under development

Hehehe imagine an entire carrier group disappearing.

Not according to my knowledge. Rheinmetall were pushing for their system as a possible upgrade within the inner tier of an air defence system.

Most technology advanced projects in SA especially Denel's are on halt cause of funds.

The have been mentions of projects like the Small guided bomb, Stealth Ingwe ATGM, LED-150 etc.

nemesis2u:
guys whats ur opinion on utility of field artillery firing tactical nuclear artillery shell such as W48 or Soviet equivalent ZBV3

Air power. The technological advances in air power I think has seen air dropped munitions taking the roles filled by heavy guns or howitzers.


Only those offering smaller fire power compared to available air dropped munitions are currently still widely utilized. 155mm and lower countries utilizing anything above are probably offsetting a serious need for air bombardment.

If the effectiveness or the capability in of destruction is available in air power then I think it is to avoid having your nuclear arsenal exposed to special forces or or similar forces shadowing your conventional forces.


Just adds stress to tactical commanders similar to the president showing up on the battlefield. Command is a stressful thing. The land isn't the ocean. The written S.O.P for moving them around would be composed of 4000 pages.

MiddleDimension:


hahaha! you got laughing there, mehn. i really like your post. but how was it possible the won the yomkipur war?

Like he said USA!

patches689:
Our "marines" doing some training...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABacLwdmAro

Funny to think that these guys arent even *that* elite

9 SAI should just be transferred to the navy.

lionel4power:
true... Russian gears are utilitarian, practical and rugged.

Ever heard about the B-52?

Henry240:
In number 4 for Nigeria is the PF Viper.

Is it in production or is the prototype built yet?

Anyway Namibia has a longer list.

newafricaken254:
north sudanese soldiers in yemen fighting alongside forces loyal to the internationally-recognised government of Pre.Abdrabbuh Mansour Hadi

The Sudanese run a rebel army.

ActivateKruger:



https://thaimilitaryandasianregion./2015/11/26/valour-class-frigate-south-african-navy/comment-page-1/

Don't comment any further, I'm pulling an Augububu here

kikuyu1:

What country and which people have that scarification on his right? Thanks.

Mali.
I have seen a documentary about some people in central Africa doing it.

ActivateKruger:
The SAN firing a torpedo.

Source?

LTGEN:

I think sometimes you tend to underestimate how truly Dangerous these missions really are.Please understand these SF are going into embedded Enemy territory.The surprise is not to sound cold is that the Casualties are low.These are extremely very Dangerous missions.

They are being misused.

Doing the job of light infantry.

bidexiii:
What happened to the Ethiopian Navy?



http://www.africanmilitaryblog.com/2017/04/what-happened-to-ethiopian-navy.html?m=1

Lionel always writes non....sense at times but this is better.

nemesis2u:
Indian active radar seeker for tactical missiles

it takes 10-15 years of work to come up with such technology intensive systems

Actually takes a lot if you start from nothing without outside help during peace time.

ssaengine:
Finnish Navy firing Denel Umkhonto SAM

Wish the navy's new OPVs are armed this missile.

In both SAM and SSM roles.