NewStats: 3,263,910 , 8,181,841 topics. Date: Sunday, 08 June 2025 at 05:47 PM 1v66c

petengine:

but 2.1 and 1.1 gives you the opportunity to showcase your skills to your potential employer, huh? except you are referring to self employment here.

if u like go and get a grade and see which potential employer will invite you for interview to enable u claim your acquired skills and ability to him/her.
in AltarBoy1 voice, OYO is your name

You better know what you are talking about Mr.

I am not a student, I left the scene over 8 years ago, and it was lies like these that made friends and colleagues to do above and beyond to secure good grades. Today my skills pay me more than grades, and I am not self employed either.

What I tell every student is this... No matter the grade you come out with, focus 110% on skills, develop your soft skills, develop your IT skills, develop your networking skills, information is power not grades.

I currently have two recruiters on my trail on LinkedIn, one from UAE the other from South Africa, neither is asking me for skills, I have even had a phone interview with one of them, and the focus was on my abilities not my skills.

A fresh graduate with skills will get a job faster than the one with just his result be it a 2.1 or 2.2

My advice to those who have gotten poor results at 200 level or 300 level is simple, don't ever make the mistake of going back to write JAMB, that's the worst mistake you'll ever make. Dig deep, search yourself, find out what you love and develop your skills in that niche, better still if your course is technical in nature, use your holidays to learn the practical side of it, become good at it, then watch how things will change.

I believe by now I have enough experience to know that it's never about what you come out with, it's always about what you can do.

Ignore this at your own risk, self development is always the answer.

I have friends who came out with 2.1 but they don't earn half my salary, and these are guys earning above 100k already.

It's never by your certificate, study the industry you belong or aspire to enter, know what works and start working towards that goal.

Lexusgs430:


I have not had any issues with my upgrades,so far.I agree the battery drain is worrisome, but I do not have power issues, hence battery drain is not an issue.

I have deployed and upgraded windows 10 to over 600 laptops and ultrabooks(so far and counting), no upgrade issues beyond comprehension.
In my summation, it's an upgrade.

NB: I don't know why you are having RAM issues, I have not encountered such on all my walks yet.
You hate windows 10(for now) and I love windows 10. Let's simply agree to disagree or disagree to agree!!

I still don't get the features that makes Windows 10 an UPGRADE, at best it's an UPDATE with new fancy themes.

Personally, Microsoft needs to go back to the drawing board, the idea of rushing out an OS every few years on a platform like Windows is just not working. Many people felt Microsoft will get it right with Windows 10, but I don't think it has lived up to the hype.

Honestly I have no hate for Windows 10, but performance is the main thing for me.

Over 600 updates in just over two months , your organisation must be very big to have been able to have done that many update, and am interested to know the volume-deployment method you used to deploy windows 10

Anyways one man's meat is another man's poison, but I doubt if many peaople share your enthusiasm for Windows 10

AltarBoy1:
Except you get leg, if you eventually come out with 2.2. OYO is your name. But then, all destinies arent the same.

This is the misconception that makes Nigerian universities produce 2.1 that can't defend their results.

We need to seriously remove this focus on class and grades. We need to focus more on skills and abilities.

Sorry, 2.1 don't put food on your table, skills do.

I can cofidently tell you that no one will employ you because you had a 2.1 or first class. Quote me anywhere.

Lexusgs430:


In my personal summation. Windows 10 is an upgrade. I migrated from Windows 7 ultimate to Windows 10 Pro. I upgraded without any issues.
Windows 8.1 was a failure, but Windows 10, a definate upgrade !!!
This new OS is a work in progress and a few patches here and there, should eventually clear all teething issues.
Windows 7 to Windows 8.1 is a downgrade, but Windows 7 to Windows 10 is an UPGRADE !!!!
NB: Used destroy windows 10 spying to enhance my privacy.

Please enumerate the UPGRADE, and don't mention the UI, that doesn't count abeg. What third party app will solve the low RAM issues.

I use a core i5 2.6ghz Intel 4th generation U
I don't do heavy graphics as my work is basically remote tech . I don't have any games installed.

The battery issues, I won't even bother talking about that. In my humble opinion, Windows 10 should have remained in BETA for quite a while, before assulting our senses with their collosal failure. It seems the higher they go, the worse it becomes. I just see Windows 10 as a failed attempt at developing a closed system like Apple, which will never work.

I like the UI, but the performance leaves too much to be desired. Hopefully in 2yrs from now, Windows 10 will finally be an upgrade, for now it's still fancy for someone like me. I UPGRADED back to windows 7 with speed.

Someone should please tell Microsoft that we don't need fancy, we need performance period.

prettyboi1989:

what do u mean by cut? u mean d system hangs or it shuts down on its own?

O boy, me sef they wonder ni

Lexusgs430:


Simply destroy windows 10 spying and apply. It would restore your privacy back and hopefully you would start enjoying windows 10, for the upgrade it really is!!!!

If I have to third party apps to use an OS, then my friend that's not an upgrade, Microsoft goofed on this one.

Maybe when they finally fix the issues they have, we can call it an upgrade. Again, the only thing that was upgraded was the UI, in of functionality, please they have work to do, before you can call Windows 10 an upgrade. I don't know what or how long you use your system, but if you use it like I do, then you need a PC that actually performs at 90% efficiency, and that includes a top tier OS, on extreme Hardware. and did I mention that Windows 10 was giving low memory error, on 6GB RAM

Please Windows 7, and have peace of mind.

Good topic, but without taking anything from Microsoft, Windows 10 is crap.

Microsoft's attempt at developing a closed system will just not work.

Myself and my colleagues actually made it a point of note to upgrade on the very first day it was released.

I allowed Microsoft do the update as my system was using genuine Windows. Everything was perfect until a few days
When I couldn't save files in my document folder anymore. Yeah I took ownership and then I could save the files, but I
Was pissed because if Microsoft expected me to start changing everything on my OS just to use it, i'd rather go back to 7.

I upgraded to windows 7 after ten 10 days of using windows 10. Microsoft needs to get things right.

Personallu Microsoft should just release a seperate OS for touch enabled PC etc, while the UI was really sweet, the bugs, compatibility issues and infringement on personal privacy just makes it a really big miss. If they continue like this, I just might be tempted to finally switch to Mac. OSX

justi4jesu:




Next shipment.

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Can we go for this instead.

Please let me know the new cost.

If it's the original, please help me pick-up the item ASAP. If not let me know if you see any new one like this as well.

I wonder when Women will be jailed for all the love scams they have been playing since Adam knew Eve..

On a serious note, some youths need sense, something about illicit money is it always finds a way to put you in trouble...

justi4jesu:




Next shipment.

Justi you know say I like pictures oh..

Where am na...

justi4jesu:
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I have sent the balance, Please when is my item shipping

Sagamite:


Not only EY.

PwC too has removed minimum A-Level scores for assessing candidates.

Deloitte has removed university attended in assessing candidates.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-34384668

Many are moving to the more reasoned, but also more tedious, process of assessing stored potential rather than achieved potential (which is susceptible to privilege).

I have always stated on NL that degree class is not evidence of high intellect. It is just a correlation and a possible sign of interest in that particular field.

https://nairaland.unblockandhide.com/754330/second-class-lower-graduates-still/8#9126584

Someone getting a 1st class in International Development is not necessarily a better candidate for a position in an ing firm than another getting a 2:2 in Philosophy.

Secondly, people develop their intelllect at difference phases.

Even Obama was not really that smart until his late 20s. So it does not make sense to judge ability and potential based on results that are dependent on development in teenage to early 20 years to understand potential of success in the future.

I am a strong advocate of testing real raw IQ, EQ, VQ and RQ of job candidates.

I believe this is already being practised within the IT sector.

Skills based testing should always be used over certificate based recruitment, because at the end of the day, it's really about what you can do, and a certificate can't really guarantee that.

justi4jesu:



yes na he frequents my thread more than me sef looking for a new victim. Na jungle justice go be him portion at last.

Abeg holla me when my item is ready for shipping. I don tire for this my phone.

I go send the balance today
the guy cup go soon full.

justi4jesu:




NOTE: I won't send you any mail except you send me, beware of that unrepentant scammer that is lurking around 24hours

Abeg nor kill me with laughter

As discussed Justi

Here is the link

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any one of the two links should work fine.

Please let me know if it's still available and give me the quote for express shipping.


I'll ping you on BBM to conclude.

Thanks.

Hey

Lets bid for this Item

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$ 100 is the allowance.

homebase:
Many of nairaland threads were i am asking are saying the same thing GTbank is telling me.

That i can't collect foreign inflow in cash via counter, that it is a new CBN policy.

That you can only collect cash only when you deposit cash.

Another guy opened a thread on nairaland business section facing similar challenge with GTbank.

On a serious note, this CBN governor is confused. Because just last August all
Nigerian banks told member of the public that they won't be receiving foreign currencies
as deposit into dom s again saying they are acting on the CBN directive.
day the same CBN is saying you can only withdraw foreign currencies cash from
your dom only if it was cash deposited.

Confusion banking regime.

Well I dont know how true that is, but if your inflow is from overseas, you should be able to withdraw cash.

Up till last two weeks I did cash withdrawal
But to

So what's the current exchange rate as at today. I got some inflow I wanna sell

justi4jesus:



Item cost $16.90

shipping to Lagos $20

Total $36.90(#8,500)

Thanks.

Decided to order from Konga instead. it will be faster this time because of the urgency.
I'll you on another item soon.

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Justi please give me express shipping for this item. I need it ASAP.

Thanks.

The man is a learner.

Sadly this practice happens mostly in churches. Make one wife try that with one guy man, she
Go know say Khaki nor be leather.

Women who do that are still kids at heart. Men don't need excuses to cheat, so if you give them a chance be rest assured they won't it up.

Later they be crying that the devil entered their husband, meanwhile they are the devil that started the fire.

I would love to school some prospective corp about what to expect and all but I can't on this device, maybe when i hop on my laptop.

The relevance of NYSC will be lost when you forget the word SERVICE, which happens to be what the scheme is all about.

I understand the frustrations, I get the anger, but sorry to say, if your time in NYSC is a waste, it's your fault.

1. NYSC is not compulsory, just refuse to go, it's not a criminal offense to turn it down. A friend refused to serve, it has not stopped him from making it in the IT industry.

2. Apart from areas with security challenges, you should be able to make something out of that one year.

Something as simple as learning another culture will help broaden your thinking scope, enjoying your time with the community is more important than making money.

3. Knowledge acquired during that one year has continuously put money in my bank .

It's up to you how you spend that one year, but if you end up wasting it, then it's your fault and not that of the FG. Youths need to start taking responsibiity for their time, try seeing the cup as half filled everything is all about perspective.

Finally it's not the same way you see traffic that the gala or Lacasera seller sees it.

justi4jesus:




Noted it will be sent to Portharcourt today.

Hi Justi

This is my new ID, i'll ping you on BBM later.
Please help me cost this Item,
Express delivery - how many days and cost
Normal delivery - How many days and cost as well.

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please let me know the total cost plus shipping to PH

amhackdee:
WHao, i got your message late. I just bought it this afternoon.

Please how much did you get it and where
Am based in PH

LaurelP:
Money talk is one of the most important aspects of the job search process. It can be the difference between a fulfilling career and a frustrating one. A poorly negotiated salary can haunt you for years, thus the importance of mastering the basics of salary negotiation before you find yourself in a heated salary discussion with an employer.

Basic Principles In Negotiating a Salary.

1) Know When (and When Not) to Discuss Money.
The key to successful negotiating is TIMING. You must know and wait for the right to discuss pay.
When it comes to salary negotiation, the person who reveals Specific Details first is automatically in a weakened negotiating position. For example, let's say you've told the interviewer early in the interview process that you currently earn 80k where you work. The employer already has an advantage over you because he has an idea of what you're worth. He can decide to just add 20k to your current pay to make it 100k, even when he can pay much more than that or you're worth much more.

If possible, the topic of pay shouldn't be discussed until after it has been established that you're the right person for the job. By then, you would have understood fully what the job and position is all about.
So early in the recruitment process, you're asked to provide your current and expected pay. My advice is that you write "Negotiable" if its a form or online application.

If its an interview and they ask what your expected pay is, say something like:
"Since you're familiar with your company's payscale, how about you tell me the range you're thinking of and I will let you know if it sounds fair to me."

They're likely to give a range slightly lower than what they pay, so you can then provide your own pay range which you've researched beforehand. Say something like:
"That's ok. But a salary for this type of position as researched in a variety of sources shows that a pay range between 150k and 200k is competitive". Always use a range rather than a specific figure.

So in Summary, follow this order of negotiating pay before an offer is made:

1) First, postpone the money talk until they really show you're the right candidate.
Are they the one to show, or you are the one to show that you're the right candidate
2) Request information about their pay range.
I ask you a question, and you're asking me another question as a reply
3) Present your researched range.
Nobody cares how well researched the range you present is. For graduate hires, it's already fixed. for experienced hires, your value determines your CTC


And don't forget that you need to also negotiate other non salary benefits and perks including leave, medical allowance, lunch, 13th month, training, resumption date etc. Don't accept an offer until everything have been discussed and agreed. That's why you should never accept an offer the same day it was made, you need to go home,think over it and get back to them.
In your reply, try to negotiate for more, don't just say you've accepted it.

Finally no one will even tell you about non salary benefits untill they make their initial offer. Which is already past the interview stage.
Am afraid your post doesn't really have a target audience. Young graduates will read this and try it at interviews, only to be disappointed.

As someone who has been interviewed and also interviewed others, I advice one thing... Put the value the company will add to you first if you are a fresh graduate, but if you've got some experience, then show the company the value you bring to the table, you will be paid according to your worth.

shut:


I'm searching for inspiration kinda.

So what did you discover made you fail and how did you tackle it

Good question.

Two factors actually.

1. Immaturity: Yea, this was a major blunder on my part, I got into the university at 19, at a time where the average age for gaining ission was between 20 - 24. I felt it was still like the secondary school system where I could just listen to my teachers and grab everything they said, then read a few days to the exams and with flying colours. Out here it was a different ball game entirely. Lecturers won't come to class, and when they eventually did, some couldn't even their message accross properly, yes, that's the system of education in most Nigerian schools. I was not prepared for this method of learning, I needed to adjust very fast, but I couldn't. Long hours of reading was never my thing, so it was a struggle in my first 2 years. Again I never understood the trick behind using past questions to study, I never did even when preparing for WAEC/NECO I just followed the syllabus or class notes. At university level, you can actually study just past questions and come out with good grades, sad but true.

2. Wrong Course: Maybe just maybe if I had done computer science instead of mechanical engineering, my ion would have driven me beyond my abilities, but alas, I was in mechanical engineering because I wanted to work for an oil company. Well that ain't happening any time soon, and besides I would rather work for Microsoft than Chevron any day.

What I did
I changed my mindset about the system. The system was not made for me... I needed to adjust to the system, I started learning how things really worked, past questions became my new textbooks, and even if nothing changed, at least my result actually changed. year 3 4 5 was enough to give me a 2.1, but with a terrible 100level, and not too good 200level, 3rd Class was the only thing I could manage out. With plenty of Abeg. At this point I just wanted out of the system, I really didn't care what I came out with. I had 2 extra years, yes, 2 extra years.

When I graduated, I did a lot of self motivation, because if you hear the way companies carry on about 2.1, you would think that it was the end of the world to achieve that feat.
Most of my family friends quickly used that as a criteria not to offer help, but I ignored them altogether.
At this point I realised that only God can help me if I really wanted to live my dreams. I started by defining what I wanted to do, already I knew I had a ion for computers, so that will be my ticket out... I learnt everything I could on Windows, within a short while I could troubleshoot hardware and software issues like a pro. I used professional simulators to learn as fast as I could, yet no onw would hire me as a computer engineer because I didnt have certs, well, I wanted to get them but the money was not there. Anyway I continued doing what I love while managing a job by the side.
Now if you see my CV, you won't believe that I had a 3rd Class.

Thanks to God's divine favour, I saw a job that needed my computer skills with a reputable software organisation, I applied, went through personality tests, instead of the 2.1 screening criteria that our lazy Nigerian HR and companies are used to. I ed, today I get paid in USD.

So simply put, take responsibilities for your failure, and you'll find a way out. I could have blamed my lecturers, blamed the system, or even blamed my parents for not being able to afford the kind of schools I was used to at secondary level, but I realised early enough that success is a choice, failure is also a choice.

Finally always that failure is usually a catalyst to become better if you choose to see it that way. Find what you love to do, and follow it with all your heart.. it will open more doors for you that any Grade can and ever will.

Got to get back to work. Hope you got the inspiration you need.

It's simple really.
Students don't take responsibility for their performance or studies anymore.

After leaving the university with a 3rd Class, I had to sit down and tell myself the truth.
Yes I had never been a dull student
Yes I had an excellent track record at primary and secondary school

I went back and saw why and how I failed, I knew where I made mistakes...
Moving forward I made adjustments, today I work with an international organisation, and I never had to present my degree

If you can't track why you failed, how will you ever become successful?

I beg to differ a bit. Truthfully, I don't advice people to play with their studies, but as someone who has been in operations, and staff management roles for a while, I have sometimes found it difficult to come to with the rationale behind 2.1 as a criteria.

For me, it doesn't really matter at what point you decide to sit up and become useful to yourself, the most important thing is you can get up and get things done when I need them done.

This write-up has nothing to do with being dull, rather it's more about putting round pegs in round holes. This will become a trend that will pick up with time.

I know guys who can write great code, but have never been in the four walls of a university talkless of getting great grades, and if you think programming is a joke, try build a website from scratch.

We have this stereotypical way of thinking as Nigerians that never really helps us. We don't seem to be able to change from what isn't working to trying new methods. The days of using degree class as criteria is fizzling out, in the future, expect to do personality tests, time based assesment and skills test. With the internet penetration level, it therefore means that technology can be involved more in screening candidates, which means that recruiters don't need to bother much ing class of degree to narrow down selection of candidates. They just need to open the pool to everyone, and test them wether 2.1 2.2 or 3rd class against the same criteria, and may the best man always win.

So for me it's simple really, don't feel entitled because you got great grades, if your only achievement 5yrs after leaving school is a 2.1 trust me, i'll pick a 3rd class who has put in effort in improving himself over the years any day.

On the job, ability is all that matters, and I will say with all confidence, it has absolutely nothing to do with grades.
Success is personal, at any time if you take your eyes off the goal you will miss it.
So because you missed it in school doesn't mean you should keep paying for it all your life.

I know guys who wrote Waec 3 times, but went to school to make a 2.1
So why shouldn't someone who got a 3rd class fight for the same opportunity with a 2.1

If you're good, you're good. It's got nothing to do with your class of degree, that's the whole point.

Akkord4gov:
Ok
Good news for the OLODOS

And why you clutch your certificate, others are actually performing....

If you have ever had to interview candidates for a role, you will know that 2.1 has lost its relevant as a recruitment criteria.

I have always maintained that rather than use degree to judge candidates, recruiters should involve technology more in their process.
Below is an excerpt you should read, very soon gone will be the days where you go to school get a 2.1, with no real skills to back it up.

Developing your self is the best assurance in a volatile job market.

Ernst and Young drops degree classification threshold for graduate recruitment
BY LINDA ONUEKWA ·

One of the UK’s biggest graduate recruiters is to remove degree classification from the entry criteria for its hiring programmes, having found “no evidence” that success at university was correlated with achievement in professional qualifications.

ancy firm Ernst and Young, known as EY, will no longer require students to have a 2:1 degree and the equivalent of three B grades at A level to be considered for its graduate programmes.

Instead, the company will use numerical tests and online “strength” assessments to assess the potential of applicants.

Maggie Stilwell, EY’s managing partner for talent, said the changes would “open up opportunities for talented individuals regardless of their background and provide greater access to the profession”.

Read more from the link below
Ernst and Young drops degree classification threshold for graduate recruitment

http://www.forelites.com/ernst-and-young-drops-degree-classification-threshold-for-graduate-recruitment