NewStats: 3,262,612 , 8,177,694 topics. Date: Tuesday, 03 June 2025 at 02:58 AM 666b67

Goke7:


Yes while you await the new one by post

Thanks a lot for confirming.

Hi All,

Quick question, please. I recently went for port renewal at the Nigerian High Commission. At the end of my biometrics, I was given back my expired port. Is this how it is done now?

Resurgent2016:


Oga keep your self-righteousness to yourself

Would you buy an asset now rather than later, if you expect prices to drop?

Is your problem the excitment the buyer feels at potentially snapping it up at a discount?

She is not the cause of the recession, why should she weep or decline the opportunity to buy an asset undervalued or at a again.

Very misplaced criticism. Rather than blame the government who has engineered factors that have eroded people's wealth, you are blaming the person picking up assets as a discount. This is the kind of reasoning that has kept nigeria poor and the leaders unable

I really do not want to be involved in this discussion at all, because it will appear as though I am taking sides. In reality, I am not and will not! However, I still felt the need to type this regardless. Here we go (DISCLAIMER: Long post).

Now @Resurgent2016, you have made a good argument in your post, but it has one major flaw/error!!! Your argument lacks context.

It lacks context because you did not put the following things about @missjekyll into consideration:

1 The moral stance of missjekyll on the life/free/legal choices made by people she considers to be rich people/elites.

2 Missjekyll's philosophical/moral stance regarding how "wealthy" people/elites in the UK purchase property.

3 Missjekyll's political standpoint on how "wealthy" people/elites in the UK take advantage of the economy.

4 Missjekyll's anger towards how "wealthy" people/elites take advantage of the property market.

5 Her strong accusations against people taking advantage of UK's recession to buy 2nd homes.

6 Her overall deep dislike for how elites take advantage of regular folks here in the UK.

7 Her deep reservations about how elites/wealthy people take advantage of the UK's tax system (e g. Dom status)

Etc. I could go on and on, but I'd rather not make my post too lengthy.

So with the above points, it makes @missjekyll's action/post/message in 2020 appear to be UNQUESTIONABLY hypocritical and devious. If she was a UK politician, her 2020 action/post/message will have been a scandal, with the potential of causing fatal consequences for her political ambitions.

Her 2020 action/post/message paints the picture that there is no difference between herself and the same political elites/wealthy people (that she dislikes & criticizes everyday). It makes it appear that she will do exactly the same thing as they do, if she was in the same position as them. It paints her as two-faced, unprincipled and untrustworthy. It paints her as an opportunist!

PS: Now, to be fair, @missjekyll initially appeared to be sorry about her action/post/message when it was unearthed/revealed on this platform a few weeks ago. That was refreshing to see. But her responses yesterday made it seem that she no longer has any remorse for that action/post/message. In fact, she seems to be standing by it and ing her position.

MY CONCLUSION:
Personally, I DON'T believe that @missjekyll is a bad/evil person as some persons here are accusing her to be. However, as she is someone who criticizes politicians/elites etc. based on their antecedents/past actions, she should realize that she can also be criticized on the same criteria. I will suggest she does some soul-searching and deep reflection. God knows no one is perfect (not even myself who is typing this).

Accepting, apologizing and learning from past mistakes is one of the greatest signs of a human's development. Forgive me if I am beginning to sound "preachy" at this point, but I do so in good faith (because I have had to learn from my own past mistakes as well).

FINALLY, @missjekyll, you are entitled to get angry by my post. However, be rest assured that I mean no harm. I just wanted to share an objective view shared by some of this platform's silent readers. And by the way, CONGRATULATIONS on Labour's landslide victory. I'm hoping it ushers in a new era of improved security and standards of living.

Cheers.

Lexusgs430:



Ok o..... Send her the balance ........😜😁

Dear @Lexusgs40,

Please, kindly allow me jump in here.

With all due respect, don't you think it's a little hypocritical of you to criticize people like the 20 year-old in the story?

You have written here countless times, how you came to the UK to study with virtually no money in your pockets/ and no perfect plan to boot. You took the risk, but it paid off. Now, you turn around years later to mock a young girl who is stranded in her third & FINAL year due to tuition fee payment.

I think it's double standards in my opinion.

Now, I understand that I have used very strong words (because you are one of the few persons here that deserves some respect), but I also believe that I have chosen my words very carefully.

Now to strike a balance, I do realize that MANY Nigerians in the last 3 years or so, have been utterly reckless in their relocation/immigration plans to the UK. BUT I also realize that there are also many who actually planned well, but got into trouble due to unforeseen circumstances e.g Form A delays, forex scarcity, Naira devaluation, abrupt change in personal circumstances etc.

What I will say to everyone (including myself) is that before one gives general or blanket criticisms/condemnation, one should reflect on one's personal life, and be grateful for the progress made.

Personally, I am happy about the immense growth that I have experienced as a teacher here in the UK. This humbles me greatly, because I am 100% sure that I am NOT in any way better than others who have not made the same strides as I have done.

PS: Now, to the reader somewhere in Nigeria, let me say CLEARLY that I am in total agreement with Lexusgs40 about the importance of planning well financially, before embarking on the immigration journey to the UK. It would be extremely irresponsible not to do so. HOWEVER, I will also point out that it is also worth taking calculated risks (after doing your homework and proper planning). Do NOT wait until the "perfect" time to immigrate, if you really dream to do so. There will NEVER be a perfect time.

Let me end with this abridged quote:

"The credit belongs to the person who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself/herself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he/she fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his/her place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who know neither victory nor defeat."

Yaya88:


I have no idea!

I submitted my application on 17 May, 2023 and did my Biometrics on 19 May, 2023. I submitted my TB certificate, Data Analytics course training certificate from a course I did for 3 months from September to December of 2022, a copy of my Degree certificate, my IELTS score report, my Husband's pay slip showing he can my family in Nigeria and I while I study ( Senior Pipeline Engineer at Shell Nigeria) and 2 letters (an Introduction letter and a letter correcting the mistake I spoke about earlier).

I had no idea I was supposed to submit documentation explaining my study gap so I was surprised when I got an email on 22 May, 2023 asking me to send documentation regarding that. I haven't worked in a traditional setting since I graduated from University in 2012 except for volunteering at my Mum's company from 2017 to 2020 and running my own business from 2020 to 2022. As a result, I submitted my NYSC certificate, and my CAC documents and business bank statements as evidence to my study gap, along with certificates of courses I took for a year prior to September 2022 on modules in my Master's degree, my CV and github portfolio showing projects on Machine learning and Data Analytics with Python as well as certificates of Python programming and technical assessments test report sheets. ( they were 22 certificates in total).
I submitted these on 25 May and got called for an Interview on 2 June. At my Interview, I was asked 3 questions only.
1. Why did you choose to study in the Uk?
2. Why did you choose this course?
3. What are your modules?



To be honest, I am emotionally exhausted and even more so mentally exhausted. I really wish they could just give me a decision already. I put a lot of effort into preparing academically for my degree, it has to work out...

"Sorry for the long write up"

Dear Yaya88,

I feel bad about your plight. It is really frustrating and sad. I'm sure that it will have had a toil on your mental health.

From your post, I SUSPECT that your Visa application is stuck as a result of a "TICK-THE-BOX" issue.

What do I mean?

Let me explain.

Due to the fact that you submitted a lot of documents/details to address the NSF for study gap, the ECO/UKVI may feel obligated to confirm some of these documents/information. For example, out of the 22 certificates that you submitted, the ECO/UKVI may have tried to confirm whether many of them are genuine.

So the ECO/UKVI may have sent an email to some of the certication bodies in order to confirm the authenticity of some of these certificates that you submitted. Perhaps, some of these certification bodies are yet to respond to the ECO/UKVI, which is consequently leading to a delay in your application.

The ECO/UKVI may not be able to proceed with your application, because they may need to TICK the box that they have confirmed your certificates.

Please in future, avoid submitting too many details/documents. They sometimes raise more questions from Visa officers, and sometimes lead to delays in one's Visa application. The secret with UK Student visa application is to keep things SIMPLE.

I sincerely hope that your Visa comes out soonest. Challenges are part of life, and I am positive and optimistic that you will pull through this particular challenge.

: tough times don't last, but tough people do.

Please, stay strong.

CandyDiva:




Thank you so much for your response,

We suspected the pump, I had sent the money into her over a month prior, thinking it would be okay to show some money in her ( I guess I was wrong), after-all, she is a student and mustn’t declare any statement and I also mentioned I’d bear her cost of traveling anyway.

What has changed is that, we won’t bother using any statement from her, mine would suffice.

And I just want her to come and relax, chill and shop for all the stress exams has bestowed on her.

Once again, thanks for responding

Dear CandyDiva,

I sympathize with you and your sister. Visa refusals can be very difficult to deal with. I will advise you NOT to make a bad situation even worse. 1 Visa refusal is better than 2 Visa refusals. A history of multiple Visa refusals may have a negative impact on her future immigration plans. So tread carefully and please, abort the mission of "Re-applying for her immediately."

From your post, your plan is to make her re-apply and not include her own Bank Statement. This is a very bad idea in my opinion. It will almost certainly attract another refusal.

Why?

Well because in the Refusal letter, the ECO made it clear that they are more interested in her "personal and financial circumstances in Nigeria", and not so much yours (or her other siblings). So you can see that failing to include your sister's Bank Statement is a bad choice to make in this regard.

To summarize, if you decide to make her re-apply immediately, it will be difficult to convince the ECO that her personal and financial circumstances has changed within just a few days/weeks.

My advice?

Let her swallow the disappointment like a strong DOCTOR-TO-BE that she is. You and the family can find alternative options to help her relax, chill and to compensate her for the stress of school exams (and this visa application). And if her final goal is to relocate to the UK after her studies, then she can start working towards it now. Doctors will continue to be in demand in the UK for a very long time.

This is my advice from my own good (and sometimes painful) personal experience.

Kindly send your sister my regards. Cheers.

Godaloneisable:


It's not a care job, we are both professionals and when she got the job she told but I just finished a project. I tried all I could to get funds and I even borrowed.. I still owe some of my friends till date.

The main thing we paid was IHS and Visa fees which I closed all my and borrowed to be able to contribute. She was never the breadwinner and that's been her mentality from Nigeria because I was doing well in Nigeria. It was just unfortunate that when she got the job I was really broke cos of the project I just finished which she's aware of. It's just her mentality that man must take care of everything and that's why she's being using that as a leverage.

I came here also and I got my first job within 2 months with a pay of 49k thinking all will be well. As everyone suggested, I will continue till next year February hoping there will be a change.

Thanks everyone.

Cc. Jlaw1
Justwise
Dygeasy

I appreciate your response here, sir. It does appear as though you are someone who responds well to .

But please, don't let things return to "business as usual," while 'hoping' that things will change. Things won't change unless you create and embody the change itself. Kindly refer to my previous post, and try to address the underlying problems and not just the symptoms.

Also, don't take lightly @Dygeasy's post as well (minus maybe the question at the end of that post).

When a person begins to suffer from chronic skin problems, doing expensive makeup may not be the long-term cure. The solution may lie in addressing/treating the root cause from inside-out.

YES, your wife's 'mentality' of "man must take care of everything" may be a part of the problem, but so is your mentality as well, because you likely played along back in Nigeria as you were earning well at that time and held the title of 'Supreme Breadwinner' in Naija. So you may both need to mutually undergo some re-orientation.

The payment of 'the loan' and 'the bills' are secondary issues of deeper lying problems (which may have festered from way back in Nigeria). So begin to address those underlying problems TODAY (not tomorrow or next week). Begin by doing some honest & personal reflection.

, there are no short-cuts. The process of rebuilding lasting relationships is a slow, methodic and continuous process. It is a journey & not a destination (but it is an ultimately rewarding process if done correctly).

Happy Sunday.

Godaloneisable:
Elders and dependants especially male I need your advice please.

I'm a dependant who is also working in uk. I appreciate my wife cos she spent over 70% of the funds we used while coming to uk and also took care of home for 2 months before i got a job. I was lucky to get a good job in Manchester 2 months after I got to uk which is a midlevel role in my career path as a systems engineer. My wife has refused to do anything at home cos she claims she wants to rest and I should be grateful that she brought me here. This is leading to serious arguments cos after paying rent, bills and food I'm left with almost nothing infact I had to borrow in the last 2 months because I bought some home appliances in our newly rented apartment.
Right now, I'm so confused because it's more like I am just working to spend and her money belongs to her strictly and she means it. I am careful cos I'm bound to her visa and I am even begging her to take just bills but she refused. This has been on for over 7 months and i can not boast of 2k savings even with 49k salary.

How do I manage this? Just confused tbh cos she's also working full time even grossing more than i

Dear Godaloneisable,

From your writeup, I can confidently reach the conclusion that the issue you have tabled here is simply one symptom of much deeper problems in your marriage.

Your marriage appears to be suffering from a chronic lack of the following;

•trust
•love
•understanding/communication
•mutual respect
•unity
•empathy (not the same as sympathy)

Until both of you resolve these issues between yourselves, standoffs such as the one you have highlighted will remain unresolved, & may even get worse. This may in turn put your matrimony in jeopardy.

The fact that you didn't know (or she didn't tell you) how she financed this expensive relocation to the UK in the first place is another indication of previous troubles.

Because I don't want to write an epistle, I will advise you to act like a LEADER by honestly LOOKING INWARDS FIRST in itting, acknowledging, addressing and correcting the role that you personally have played, that has led to the current state of things in the relationship. Then you can SUBSEQUENTLY reach out to your wife in good faith. Own up like a leader & apologize to her for your long-term and short-term faults/wrongs, BEFORE pointing out her own shortcomings as well (again in good faith). Also, let her know that you truly appreciate her sacrifices. Then patiently allow her explain things from her own perspective, & make sure that you genuinely LISTEN to her (so as to understand her point of view). This approach may help both of you reach a WIN/WIN solution to the issue at hand (and to other deep-rooted ones as well).

This may not be an overnight cure (because the problems are not "overnight problems" either), so a holistic, patient, effective & continuous medication/communication is what is needed for resolving these deep-seated troubles. I'm afraid to tell you that there are no short-cuts at this stage.

Your post seems to suggest that you may have already logged out of the marriage, but only bidding your time. I hope I'm wrong.

I'm sorry if I haven't been able to give you a magical & fast-track solution that you may have been expecting.

PS: Find time to take your wife out on a date. If you still truly love her, let her know by your words and actions on a regular basis. Rediscover her love language.

Cheers.

Icesnow:
Yes, teaching experience but no teaching certification. Inside the UK. Thanks

Kindly read my post on page 1001. I believe this should answer your enquiry.
Cheers.

KOVIC19COVID20:


Thank you very much for this detailed info. Are you sure we were not in the same class back then?
I can almost swear you were that kid who always ask for EXTRA SHEETS during exams when some of us have not even used 1 page yet.

I don't think it's me o, because the only extra things I used to ask for back then was extra pocket money

harddrive2012:
Thanks for this brilliant write up. Regarding point number 3, does the required 2 years counts for those teaching in private schools in Nigeria ? Or only Government schools teachers ?.

Secondly, is TRCN mandated for Nigeria teachers before applying ?

Usually, a teacher is a teacher. But the teacher training provider that an applicant chooses will be the one to explain/confirm what type of school one must be working in order to undergo assessment only QTS.

To apply for assessment only QTS, you do NOT need a formal teacher training qualification. So TRCN is NOT required/mandated for this route.

bigtt76:
I'm interested in this

My responses

a. No
b. Yes currently in the UK

You have just hijacked the conversation from the OP. No need to fret though, you won't be needing a lawyer because hijacking isn't yet a crime on Nairaland. I'll try to give a broad response, so that the OP can also benefit. Let's go.

This long writeup particularly applies to ENGLAND. To teach in England, a person is required to have a Qualified Teacher Status (QTS) or a Qualified Teacher Learning & Skills (QTLS).
The QTS is more prestigious/respected than the QTLS (just like BSc is better respected than HND in Naija). So getting the QTS or QTLS is the pathway into teaching. These are the 5 main routes into teaching.



1. PGCE ROUTE (leading to QTS): This route is also known as the Teacher Training route, and is open to applicants with both teaching and non-teaching experience. For applicants residing outside the UK, having a teaching experience is considered important by most teacher training providers. The PGCE (Post Graduate Certificate in Education) is essentially a 9 or 10-month intensive course intended to train applicants into becoming a qualified teacher.

Pros:
•it is a relatively easy route into teaching

•it is open to applicants inside and outside the UK

•it allows applicants to easily get sponsored teaching jobs 5 or 6 months into the program.

•it provides automatic placement opportunities to applicants

•it provides applicants with the lucrative UK-work experience through placements (teaching practice)

•it makes it very possible to get sponsored jobs at places of placement.

•it also leaves some margin for errors/mistakes for relatively inexperienced teachers in their development

Cons:
•It is relatively expensive, teacher training providers charge from £12,000 upwards

•applicants from outside the UK are usually required to sit for IELTS before being accepted into the program

•the program can be hectic/draining and may not allow enough time for applicants who want to work alongside studies.



2. PGDE ROUTE (leading to QTLS): The Post Graduate Diploma in Education is another route into teaching and is very similar to the PGCE route already described above.



3. ASSESSMENT ONLY QTS ROUTE: This is a very brilliant route into teaching. It is open to persons who have at least 2years' teaching experience AND is currently working as a teacher either inside or outside the UK (yes, including Nigeria). The beauty about this route is that NO training is needed (unlike the PGCE & PGDE routes previously described). All that is required is for the person to be assessed by a representative of a teacher training provider to measure their skills, by observing them teaching at their place of work. If the representative is satisfied, then, voila, the QTS is immediately awarded.

Pros:
•applicants don't need to be in the UK to benefit from this route, because it is open to people living inside and outside the UK

•the representative will be the one to visit the applicant in order to assess them and not the other way around (even if the applicant is living outside the UK) e.g an applicant working in Lagos will be visited at their place of work, by the representative to assess their teaching skills in the classroom

•it's a very fast/short route to getting the QTS and a quick pathway into teaching in England

Cons:
•only persons currently working as a teacher and with at least 2years' teaching experience is eligible for this route

•persons eligible must have a BSc and O'level credits in English and Math

•it can cost between £1,500 and £4,000 for applicants presumably to cover the representative's travel costs amongst other things

•it is a riskier route (compared to the PGCE/PGDE routes), as there is little room for error during the assessment. If the representative isn't satisfied with the applicant's teaching methods, then the applicant will not be awarded the QTS.

•applicants will have to inform/carry along the school where they teach (i.e place of work), because that is where the assessment will take place

•getting a sponsored job may not be very easy for successful applicants living outside the UK as most recruiting UK/English schools prefer to interview teachers in-person before offering them a sponsored job.



4. INTERNATIONAL QUALIFIED TEACHER STATUS ROUTE (leading to iQTS): This is like the online version of the PGCE/PGDE routes into teaching. It is a new route into teaching in the UK.

Pros:
•it is open to all applicants living inside or outside the UK

•trainings only take place online, therefore leaving room for students to study remotely while still doing other work.

•it allows a more flexible schedule compared to the other training routes

•applicants can enjoy access to the training even if they are living outside the UK

Cons:
•it isn't free, so it comes at a fee

•getting a sponsored job may not be very easy for successful applicants living outside the UK as most recruiting UK/English schools prefer to interview teachers in-person before offering them a sponsored job.

•only 6 teacher training providers offer this service in the whole of England, which may not be a very good thing at the moment

•may contain lots of uncertainty because it is a new scheme



5.QTS EXEMPTION FOR QUALIFIED TEACHERS OUTSIDE THE UK: This route is only open to qualified/certified teachers working outside the UK.

Pros:
•eligible persons are allowed to work as teachers in England for up to 4years without a QTS.

•it is open to qualified teachers working outside the UK

Cons:
•only persons who have successfully completed a course of teacher training recognised by the organisation that regulates teachers in the country where they are qualified are eligible

•getting a sponsored job may not be very easy for successful applicants because most recruiting English schools prefer to interview teachers in-person AND also prefer teachers already holding a QTS


Sorry, my ink don finish.

Icesnow:
How can I switch career as a teacher and how do I get the sponsored jobs pls?

Hi.
Great question. The UK has recently introduced a few different routes into teaching. In order to aid my response to your enquiry, could you be nice enough to answer the following:

a. do you have any experience and/or certification in teaching?

b. are you inside/outside the UK currently?

ProfJYK:


Just want to point out that the sample you are working with is drawn largely from Roles we have already agreed to be the only ones sponsoring based on the shortage occupation matter.

Draw your sample from folks in Banking which by virtue of its being one of the highest employers of youthful labour in Nigeria and come back and tell us how many have been sponsored.


The truth remains. Healthcare, Teaching and Big Company tech are the major professional jobs sponsoring easily. The rest of them either don't want the stress, or want you to wither be extra outstanding during the recruitment (CV as well as interview brilliance) or will require you come in and be extra on the job before thinking of it.

Most (majority) of us did care as students, took PSV, have been applying while paying bills with Care and as the clock winds down, we are considering Care visa eventually.

The constant knocks we recieve no dey help.

Hi, Professor aka ProfJYK.
Your points are quite solid, to be honest. I also appreciate you sharing your own experience as well.

My response that you quoted was specifically directed towards Aphrodite007's comments. And no, she wasn't referring only to the Banking Industry in her comments. In fact, the discussion was originally about PSV generally being a scam, which some of us disagreed with.

I completely agree with you that certain industries readily offer sponsored roles than others, which I also clearly pointed out in another previous post of mine.

Since PSV specifically applies to students, I had to use the examples that I did. At the risk of repeating myself, I'd again say that for students planning to study in the UK, going for courses in Health, Teaching, IT (and certain areas in Engineering) is the best way to go if getting a sponsored job in the UK is the end goal. Having the requisite skills in these fields is also very desirable.

Studying courses in other fields (such as Banking) may or may not make getting sponsorship as easy, just as you have pointed out. In my previous post, I also alluded to some "irrelevant/useless" courses in the CONTEXT of the UK (I'm not saying Banking courses are one of them).

Anyways, keep grinding, professor J to the Y to the K. I pray it'll turn very well for you and the rest of us soonest. Please, see those 'knocks' as a source motivation. As a teacher back in Nigeria, na so dem dey knock us too, but many of us no give up.

Like one famous soldier once said at the end of World War II;
"I rest my case."

Aphrodite007:



Again.. because you 3 people around you got sponsorship, doesn’t mean it’s easy to get (it’s like me saying I know rich friends, so there’s no cost of living). If they studied with 100 other Nigerians- that’s not up 10% who got sponsored by a corporate.

.

I really didn't want to stretch our very polite debate, hence the reason for my initial cheeky response.

However, after reading the hypothetical stats in your post, I couldn't resist the temptation of one FINAL reply on this subject matter.

I came into the UK for a teacher training program. Before the end of the program, I and all nine of my Nigerian cohorts all got sponsored teaching jobs. That's 100% of us.

In that same year, I was acquainted with about 11 Nigerian/African students in Church (please note, I'm no Church boy), who were studying different courses in IT, Engineering and Health. 8 of them got sponsored jobs before the end of their programs. That's north of 70%. This made me encourage my brother to come into the UK on a study Visa last year and he too has gotten a sponsored role (and he hasn't even finished his program yet).

This has been my personal experience. I'm not as familiar with the experiences of the "big industry" boys as you are, so it's possible there are things you know that I don't. Anyways, I'm sure that there are nuggets of truth in what both you and I, and everyone else has written. Perhaps, therin lies the beauty of this thread.

I do agree with you on one thing. Becoming successful in getting one's preferred sponsored job should never make one believe that it should/must be easy for everyone else. Our life paths are not always the same.

Aphrodite007:


Lmao! You’re cute! No I’ve not been here and I have just one moniker. Yes you made various valid points especially about previous (and most times non-existent) work experience.

However, the people that recently moved to the UK ran away from naija. We are talking about big boy with years in the industry and they can easily transition to great jobs. I’ve met project managers, bank managers, architects, and engineers, etc who are struggling to get sponsorship jobs (they get calls o, but the recruiter drops them when they realise they are on a graduate visa).

Again.. because you 3 people around you got sponsorship, doesn’t mean it’s easy to get (it’s like me saying I know rich friends, so there’s no cost of living). If they studied with 100 other Nigerians- that’s not up 10% who got sponsored by a corporate.

Anyway everyone will be fine last last. It’s just 5 years sacrifice.

Yes, I'm cute. But I'm also very handsome. I'm serious. Drop dead gorgeous. Tall, long hair, fair skin, yup, that's me If you think I'm joking, just ask the ladies in Kent.

I like chasing goddesses like you, but my heart already belongs to your beautiful friend called LagosismyHome. And I don't want two friends fighting on top my head

Let me warn you though. Beware of those guys proposing to you here. They are gold diggers who are after that your £140k per annum income

All the best in your new journey.

Cheers.

Aphrodite007:


Ah I’m present oo! Sorry been flirting with the Canada thread because I wan leave una, run comot from this country.

My recent annoyance (ignoring the cost of living) is that it seems PSV is a scam. Most companies aren’t a recruiting graduates on PSV simply cos they may need sponsorship eventually.. but how come care homes are giving sponsorship like pure water??

I love you all, but UK problem, ike a gwosiri’m -sorry igbo isn’t my first language- (it sha means my power have finish).

Hello, Aphrodite007. I am Inspector Colombo, and my preliminary investigations have shown that you never left this thread in the first place, you were simply operating with a different monicker.

You don't need to be ashamed about anything. Afterall, in this country, a person can be a man in the morning, and legally become a woman in the evening. So if the law allows people to change their sex or gender like a costume, wetin kon dey inside ordinary monicker.

If you think my preliminary findings are baseless or without merit, there's no need to sue me to court, we can just settle outside court. Simply name your price and see whether I can afford it.

Now to the more serious stuff, I respectfully disagree with you that the Post-Study Visa (PSV) is a scam. The real "scam" in my opinion is the fact that many Nigerians that I know, choose to spend millions to study irrelevant/useless courses (forgive my harsh description) with very minimal career/job prospects here in the UK. I don't think you are one of them anyway, because you have given many career-enhancing advice here in the past.

I will resist the urge to list some of these 'useless' courses, because it may birth another subjective debate. With some of these courses, even if a graduate is given ILR immediately after graduation, the majority of them will still struggle to nail down a decent job with their certificate alone. Requiring sponsorship from recruiting companies even makes their chances worse.

I understand why many Nigerians may opt to study these so-called useless courses. Just like you wrote, most really want to japa for economic reasons. Where I may criticize some of them though, is that they don't (or maybe can't) make enough efforts to learn new/relevant skills to add value to themselves so as to make themselves more sponsorable/employable/attractive to recruiters/companies in modern-day Britain (abi shey na UK I suppose write).

Now, it will be naive and perhaps foolish of me to completely discountenance your points in its entirety. True, the "sponsorship" element also plays a negative role in discouraging companies to offer certain applicants on PSV a job. But from my personal observation, I don't think the statistical number of people affected by this factor is very significant enough as to make PSV a scam.

Many companies in the UK will go to great lengths to recruit and sponsor people with non-permanent visas, if they believe that they will get value for their money. For example, my brother came into the UK last September on a study Visa, and he has already been snapped up by a company, even when he insisted that he'll only be available to resume with them full-time after his studies.

But again, to be fair to your points, I a couple of talented acquaintances/friends of mine who made the same points that you have espoused. One of them moved to America last year and is gainfully employed there, and I heard that another one just got a six-figure job in .

You are also right in the fact that the UK is largely a geographic island, so it is not impossible that opportunities may be somewhat limited in certain areas, even for some talented and qualified non-British persons or temporary immigrants. And some will naturally want to emigrate. This reality still doesn't make the PSV a scam in my view.

Now since you are a goddess, I won't be too shocked to see you leave these shores as well, so as to explore pastures new, because that's what goddesses do.

My advice to graduates who have not gotten their dream jobs is to see the PSV as an opportunity to LEARN, UNLEARN, RELEARN skills that will make companies make the jump to offer them the lucrative sponsored jobs. Taking up a Care Job in the interim is not a bad idea, as long as one keeps both eyes on the GOAL. Good things rarely come easy.

PS: Graduates with the required skills/certifications/qualifications in Tech, Teaching, certain fields in Engineering etc. are almost 100% guaranteed to get good jobs in the UK with or without PSV.

koonbey:


I swear I thought this exact thing yesterday and it was quite disheartening for me. I almost talked here but figured I should keep quiet before it becomes like my own is too much.

Your 'friend' is at the point of divorce, and you came here to ask for advice. People shared different perspectives and your contribution was to start speculating that the friend was abusing his wife - and you egged that on with others with laughter and 'catching cruise'.

Now that you found that the matter is a more basic disagreement, you have said you've washed your hands off and even said you will not even share the responses people gave here to try and help them. So why did you ask in the first place? To bring drama to the thread and not to help your 'friend' at all, clearly.

Omo may God guide us on who we choose as friends and confide in sha.

I really do hope that the OP (i.e Thastie) will see your comment as a sincere and not as a personal attack.

LagosismyHome:


Wow..Real illusion. The second picture what I saw was a lady whose face was turned.... its only until it was labelled that I saw it differently

I'm super glad that you saw through the illusion of young/old woman in the picture. You've got beauty and brains. That's why you are my first love on NL

But this picture again illustrates the importance of not jumping to conclusions. One may be looking at a picture and seeing the wrong image. Depending on one's perspective, that picture may be that of a young lady or that of an old woman. As they say, every story has at least two sides.

LagosismyHome:


I like you too

Ha!!! LagosismyHome!!!
I thought I was your first love on Nairaland .
Don't tell me you are beginning to like someone else

Jlaw1:
Check out the two attached images, and see the two very old women.

Somebody messaged me saying that they cannot see the old woman in the two pictures that I posted yesterday. To the person, each picture looks like a young woman. So I have labeled the two pictures to help them see that each picture is that of an old woman.

Can you see the 2 old women now

Thastie:


The husband is whom I know, ok?
I literally chatted his wife up on IG.
The guy as even refused to share what he did wrong in the marriage with me; especially when he asked if he’ll be arrested.
Not like he needs to share stuffs with me; but his attitude shows he doesn’t want to be helped.
The wife mentioned he only works 3x a week as worker;
- Not contributing money for her to get help from a private gynaecologist as nhs is slow.
-sending money home while only paying half of the house rent, while she covers the other bills(water, gas etc)
-Doesn’t care about her even when she’s sick. He wouldn’t call cos he forgot.
-claims he wants to pursue his acting dream, hence works 3x a week.

See, I don’t want this post to be long honestly.
I’ll not lie to you cos I’m actually pissed on the wife’s behalf. Plus I know how he was struggling back home & he’s ruining the good things he has now. The guy is 35 o. Wife is 27

Ms Thastie,

Thank you for responding to my long post. It is possible that I may have misunderstood your motive afterall. If so, accept my unreserved apology.

It is sad that another Nigerian marriage is on the verge of breaking down, here in the UK.

Check out the two attached images, and see the two very old women.

Thastie:
Lagosismyhome
Justwise
Zahra29
bigtt76
dustydee
mimilyrics
gergeman
rinzylee


Thank you guys for responding.

I spoke with the wife; she said she’s tired of everything and also whenever they have an issue, her husband will call her dad cos he knows she’s scared of her dad.
Also, the guy has never pushed for a reconciliation, it was always her.
She brought the guy into UK; all expenses paid by her. He was a teacher back home (30k salary).
They’ve got no kids; married for almost 2 years.

To me I feel the guy is like that because he didn’t invest in the relationship.
I’ve hands off and not telling him the advises I got from here. Whatever wants to become of him should be.

Hi, Ms Thastie.

Kindly permit me to comment on your post. It's very lengthy, but I hope it's not too boring or intellectual.

POINT 1:
Let me start by narrating a short story. A few years ago, a professor demonstrated an experiment by showing me a sketched picture of a woman on a book. He explained the physical characteristics of the picture, and from his explanation, I could clearly see with my own "koro-koro" eyes that the woman in the picture was an old person, possibly in her 70s.

He showed the very same picture to 2 other people, but described the picture to them completely differently to the way he described it to me. Surprisingly, these other 2 people looking at the very same picture said the woman in the picture was a young woman in her 20s. This started a debate between us. I argued that the woman in the picture was old and they totally disagreed, because according to them, the woman in the picture was not an old woman but a cool babe. And yet, we were staring at the SAME picture, but we were seeing different things. Unbelievable, right?

Check out the two images of two young classy ladies that I have attached below (originally from a book called "The 7 Habits of Highly Effective People). Can you see the two classy babes?

Now check out the two images that I attached to my next post, and then you will discover that these ladies that you thought are fresh babes are infact NOT fresh or young at all, but are OLD WOMEN with big ugly noses.

What made me see differently from the 2 other guys was simply because I was given a certain description of the picture, but those guys were given a different description of the same picture. So we saw differently and reached different conclusions. In reality, the picture could be viewed as depicting an old woman or a fresh babe, depending on the type of description you may have heard from the professor, which may in turn shape your perspective.

The point I'm trying to make here is that judging the situation solely from what the wife told you may paint an incomplete picture. As the old cliché goes: there are at least two sides to every story. Also hearing events from the husband's sides may paint a more balanced picture of the true reality of things.

POINT 2:
I want to assume that you sought permission from your friend before posting about her marriage on Nairaland. In my opinion, it will be wrong not to seek her consent before sharing. So I will assume that you did the right thing by getting her green light, before tabling the matter here.

Having said this, I feel like you did not present the issue in good faith. It appears to me that your biggest motive is to bring "gist" here and to disparage her husband, rather than to genuinely help your friend. I may be judging you wrongly and I am open to correction. But at this moment, this is how I feel after reading a couple of your comments about the issue.

Fair enough, this platform is largely anonymous. Nevertheless, I believe that we should exercise some degree of caution, empathy and restraint when sharing our friends' private/personal/intimate/matrimonial struggles on a public forum. Again, it is possible that I may be wrong in my criticism of you, dear Ms Thastie, and you can correct me if you believe that I've judged your intentions wrongly.

Cheers.

DoDirtsLikeWorm:

Oya! Et toi, Jumape?

Sorry, we don't work on weekdays. We only open on Sundays. If you can't wait till then, then we cannot help you with any translations

BorisJohnson:



I do not speak Yoruba.
I do not understand Yoruba.

My hunches however tells me that ‘Agbalaba’ is not a complimentary word.

My dear Yoruba speakers, are my hunches correct,?

I'll give you a literal translation of the message you quoted:

topellycategory wrote:

"Agbaman ! Should behave.
Ti omode ban se bi omode , ki Agbalagba ma sebi Agba."

Translation:

"An elderly man ! Should behave.
If kids act like kids, then elders should act like elders."

If you need an interpreter, I'm at your service (Italian, Yoruba, French etc). That's my Sunday day-job

duchess90:
Hello

No

However,it's good to update all your records especially financial records. If all 3 names are in her port then she can update her record in the bank

Last I it takes less than 24 hours to do so.She should her bank

Cheers

Many thanks.

Linkwire:


I really appreciate your kind words deeply . My head tells me to let go but trust me , it’s not so easy. The excitement everyone gets for being here doesn’t even begin to appeal to me. I’m just focused on completing my studies and returning back to Nigeria. Initially my plan was to quit my job , pack my things and runaway from Nigeria and just pursue the Golden Fleece in the UK, but I didn’t quit my job again after what happened. My job covered my sorrow , I even got promoted twice in 1 year and my career just seemed to take a great turn . Some psychologists amongst us may be interested in unraveling this , lol. I just applied for a study leave and I’ll be returning to continue in a different capacity at my job. I got the opportunity to think deeply about my intentions to leave , I don’t wish this on any one but I got clarity after months of turmoil . I know I will
Get over it , may just take some time but that’s what time does , time heals . But I’ll hold what you have said close to heart any time the pain creeps up . Thank you again for such kind words .

Just know that your story will be a timeless inspiration to many people, who have experienced or are experiencing any challenge/setback. You certainly inspire me.

Thank you.

Regarding your post-study plans, I will urge you to discuss this with your family and/or trusted confidantes. This is to ensure that you do not make an emotional decision, but rather a long term, beneficial and strategic one.

God bless you.

A quick question for the house.

My cousin is about to submit her Visa application. Her bank statement only carries her "Surname" and "Firstname" (but it doesn't include her middle-name)

E.g Full name is Ejay Rita Ngozi but bank statement reads just Ejay Rita (surname being Ejay).

Could this be a problem?

Linkwire:


After a lot of research , I saw that getting justice for errors made by your case handler was not a very discussed topic . Not too many people had any proper information and those that did just mumbled everything into very lengthy write ups . I just ignored everything and decided to send a mail to UKVI .

See you all soon in the UK. God save the King !

Thank you for sharing your story. I cannot even imagine the agony that you may have gone through.

You displayed real gravitas and a strong character, by pulling yourself up from such a significant and unfair setback.

Please, I will kindly advise you not to harbor any lingering bitterness. I believe that the emotional trauma caused by that unfortunate incident is unquantifiable, but it is nevertheless conquerable. The mistake may have stolen 1 year of your precious time and wasted some thousands of your money, but all these are recoverable too.

that you are the real driver of your destiny, so don't focus too much on the rear view mirror. Rather, direct your utmost attention to navigating your present and your future. The only way is up for you.

Once again, many thanks for sharing and all the best in your endeavors in the UK.

PS: What made you feel that Visa decisions are made at TLS?

A wise man also said:

"Wetin dey face one person for front, fit dey face another person for back."

Hopefully, the debaters on this thread can understand this.

A wise man once said:

SEEK FIRST TO UNDERSTAND, THEN TO BE UNDERSTOOD.