NewStats: 3,265,170 , 8,185,887 topics. Date: Friday, 13 June 2025 at 06:15 PM y5my

drizzle0007:


Already looking like a judgmental circle of friends.

I dey see the thing I no wan talk fess... Make e no be like say na religious intolerance. 🤭🤐

pu7pl3:
This violence is now getting boring
You dad this one your mum that one
Where is the airstrike already?

I think say na only me dey bored....

Na new vawulence between new parties we want.
This one has gone stale and become a Vendetta.

SMUAG:


From the day I saw it I knew it will tank heavily but few of us thought it was the haters that were spreading negative words of mouth...
It's somehow crazy that the first three movies that were heavily criticise and few (like WW and Aquaman) that tied to those movies were the ones that actually did better throughout the DCEU period, while the fun and enjoyable movies are the ones struggling to even get to their BEP. Very funny...
Herculean task for Gunn now...

Aquaman is a fun and enjoyable movie. If at all anything, it's DCEU first MCU type of film.

You peeps always have a funny way of including Aquaman in DCEU success movies because of its billion dollar gross and kick out the less successful ones. Everyone knows its easily an MCU flick, some people not deep in comic book stuff even confuse it to Marvel.

Watching.... Kill Bill Vol 1.

Wetin be dis....😭😭

Calibrator:
Let it be known till the end of time that Calibrator was a true disciple of the Vawulence Order, I never leave my post to piss, eat or shiit... In the rain, sun, whatever weather, I stand firm, whether day or night time.


I never abandon post!

You briefly left your post yesterday night. 🙄
No worries, I stepped in valiantly for you.

Welcome back to duty, Private. 🧑‍✈️🧑‍✈️

NaijaMemes:



Kindly delete this blasphemy

E no concern me.... 🙄🙄

phr0nesis:

Na best picture winner you de rate like this? 😅
I have the same issue with that movie. I was hooked all through the movie, only for it to end the way it did. All my ts just weak

Mtcheww..... Wetin concern me...

I knew it was critically acclaimed but that ending wey I see change my mind and make me dey wonder wetin critics see for am. It's good but bro, I no really understand wetin dem do with that ending.
Consequently I no fit rate wetin I no understand wetin dem dey try do with high ratings.

I was hooked all through but as I dey reach the ending, local man cannot can. 🤔😟

It seems Nairaland don't want me posting this movie.... I don chop ban twice despite making tweaks to it.


Da @viator 2004.....

xynerise:

I watch that scene I nearly laugh. Like how that .50 cal no tear am to pieces. I just dey rewind dey smile. 😂😂

Just like that rubbish they did at SISU where Baba put dead soldier for him back they run for that river bank. Wetin suppose tear the dead guy body pieces pierce him body.

Xavier5:



It was amazing engaging with you, I've learnt some things. Looking forward to doing more of this 😎.



#Xavier
#DCian

Always a pleasure discussing box office financials.😎

🤝🤝

Xavier5:


I'm echoing what Gunn said. If you think otherwise, you take up the argument with him. If the person in charge of the franchise states that Aquaman 2 set after the event of The Flash (which reboots the franchise) is part of the DCU due to it leading into Superman: Legacy, then I wonder what the argument is.

Even James Wan stated that he edited Aquaman 2 to fit into the DCU.

If Aquaman 2 wasn't part of the DCU;
1.) Why is it set after the event of the Flash, why not before it?
2.) Why did James Wan have to edit it to fit into the DCU?
3.) Why did Gunn state it leads into Superman: Legacy.
4.) If leading into Superman: Legacy does not make it part of the DCU, then how does it then lead into the DCU? Another reboot? That's ridiculous.
5.) Bluee Beetle being mentioned as the first DCU character shows that its movie, set after the event of the Flash (which reboots the franchise) is set in the DCU. Little wonder why it is self contained.

Initially, my idea was that Aquaman 2 was set in an alternate timeline different from the DCU (the same one as Ezra Miller and George Clooney), but when Gunn stated it leads into the DCU coupled with James Wan editing of it, that theory didn't make any sense, the only rational concept was its DCU setting.



Yeah, he said that, and he also said its the DCU first film that Aquaman 2 (not The Flash that reboots the DCEU into the DCU) leads into. In other words, Superman: Legacy is the first actual film under the DCU banner, but universe wise, it isn't. Aquaman 2 and Blue Beetle, especially Aquaman 2, who are left overs/ crossovers from the DCEU are.
Superman: Legacy is the first film with him in total control unlike Aquaman 2 and Blue Beetle that are the products of Hamada, Ann and Kilar. This is something we need to understand.



Funny enough, his statement about Aquaman 2 being in the DCU thus leading into Superman: Legacy was first made in January during the presentation of his planned films. This was months before Shazam 2 and The Flash were even released. So the whole marketing/ de-marketing idea isn't the whole reason, it is a part of it, but not the absolute reason.


#Xavier
#DCian

Alright.

Xavier5:


Now I get what you mean, you were calculating promotion cost as just marketing budget. I guess I misunderstood you, that's why I had to state that marketing goes beyond just promotion cost but also included miscellaneous cost of which i personally do put distribution cost as a part of.

And talking about total cost, I made it clear that by production budget, I meant production cost + tax cost + miscellaneous cost, and by marketing budget, I meant promotion cost +miscellaneous cost (which I personally do include distribution cost as part of). That was why I said the maximum total cost of $400M for DCU films should entail the above.



Talking about BEP, I just checked the Deadline data and I discovered their data was published on 6th April 2023.
My BEP estimate for The Batman ($550M to $600M) was the estimate of/ from last year, I think from Forbes or The Hollywood Reporter, I've forgotten which of them. I wasn't aware of this recent data from deadline.

Talking about the multiplier BEP formula. 2.5x multiplier doesn't actually cover the BEP of movies because there are films whose BEP is way beyond the 2.5x multiplier.
No Time To Die for example, as of December last year, had a BEP of $900M against a production budget of $301M. Going with the 2.5x multiplier, its BEP should be around $753M, but that's a far cry from its actual BEP. The 3x multiplier covered its BEP.

Truth is, BEPs range from 1x to 3x multiplier. 3x multiplier being the highest any movie has to make to break even. It can never exceed that. That's why lots of industry experts uses the 3x multiplier, it's more reliable and inclusive than the 2.5x multiplier making it the maximum and standard multiplier.
Yes, lots of industry experts go with the 2.5x multiplier, but that doesn't really cover the BEP of some films e.g No Time To Die, but 3x multiplier does.



#Xavier
#DCian

Of course I know some movies financials mean 3x multiplier for production budget, that's why I say 2.5x is the general or average industry standard and don't always apply to some films.

No Time To Die BEP of $900mn smells inflated to me. I heard of the stuff then but I don't believe its that high even with COVID delays inflating the costs.
And that's why I wait months after to get the true picture when the dust regarding a project settles. The studio MGM also disputed the claims.

Deadline and Variety are the ones good at calculating Hollywood financials. Forbes are good for predicting box office cume. THR is mainly great at general industry scoops or insider info.

GloriousGbola:


Eh? The comic /movie nerd is an Adonis

Stereotype destroyed

_{Now how did Ishi take know about the abs. Would abdul obsession with large mammary glands have anything to do with this?}

LMFAO..... This thing no go work. 😂😂

Ishilove:

Happy belated birthday, tall, dark and muscular one with 16pack belly.

Thanks ma'am.

majesticguy:


Big man happy birthday in arrears, wish you the very best life has to offer. Na una day make this place lively.

Big thanks boss.

Minemrys:

I already told him not to believe that but you know, I don't want to keep pushing the argument. If Aquaman is in it, why let go of Gadot, Cavill and Affleck?
I really no get strength to dey argue on the matter jare. Anyone can believe what they want.

Honestly the argument is tiring.

Xavier5:


Well, tell that to the studio executives. Even Gunn itted that. According to Gunn, The Flash leads to Aquaman 2, and Aquaman 2 leads into Superman: Legacy.

But if you still think otherwise, then you should take it up with Gunn. I'm only echoing what Gunn said.

Never forget, Blue Beetle is self contained, while James Wan stated that Aquaman 2 underwent editing to fit into the DCU.

As I said, I'm only echoing what Gunn said.


#Xavier
#DCian

Lol, you're free to believe what you want bro.

Leads into the DCU does not mean it's part of the DCU or important to the DCU lore.

I've also been following every single DC news there is so I know what I'm saying.

If they were so connected why would Gunn be referring to Blue Beetle as the first character of the DCU instead of straight up just saying it's the first DCU film.

He already said Superman Legacy is DCU first film and Blue Beetle the DCU first character.
They don't mean the same thing.

All these ones now are just to not de-market this year's films because of what they're seeing regarding The Flash.

Xavier5:


First of all, I used the word "maximum" for a reason. That's the highest they can or should ever reach. In other words, most of the films will be beneath that.

Secondly, the profit we are talking about here is gross profit, which is revenue minus cost. And not net profit, which we all know is revenue minus expenditures.

Thirdly, your analysis is inaccurate because your BEP estimate of The Batman and The Little Mermaid are inaccurate.
Batman had a BEP of $550M to $600M, while The Little Mermaid has a BEP of $560M.
So you see, your BEP estimate isn't accurate.

Of course, BEP is production cost + marketing cost. And when we talk of marketing, we are talking of promotion cost and miscellaneous cost.

Truth is, Studios do not truly reveal the real marketing cost (promotion + miscellaneous cost). This is why the BEP of most films aren't known thus making industry analysts to go with the 3x multiplier to determine film's BEPs.

To know the actual marketing cost of a film, deduct its production cost from its stated or published BEP. For e.g
The Batman's actual marketing cost is $550M to $600M minus $200M which gives us $350M to $400M.
The Little Mermaid actual marketing cost is $560M minus $250M which gives us $310M.

NOTE: Marketing cost here means promotion cost + miscellaneous cost.

There are lots of behind the scene cost the studio does not inform the public about, hence the reason for the high BEPs.

So when I said maximum production budget of $200M for DCU films, I meant the maximum amount that should be spent on production, tax and miscellaneous shouldn't exceed $200M.

And when I said maximum marketing budget of $200M for DCU films, I meant the maximum amount that should be spent for promotion and miscellaneous shouldn't exceed $200M.

With this, you get an ACTUAL maximum BEP of $400M, but this won't be so if WBD/DC have miscellaneous cost, both in production and marketing, that they keep off the public knowledge. With this the ACTUAL BEPs of the films are bound to exceed $400M.

I hope you get what I meant.


#Xavier
#DCian

Lol, all what you've just said here is grossly inaccurate.

In my initial post I was telling you the total cost of the projects just by calculating the production cost + marketing cost alone.
I never discussed break even point with you.

Even if we want to go into BEP, your estimates is still overly inaccurate and overbloated.

The general standard to calculating BEP is usually prod cost + marketing+ distribution. These days the formula is usually multiplying the prod cost by 2.5 and you get a rough estimate of BEP for each movie. of course some movie don't stick to this standard but it's the average and general rule of thumb.

A Hollywood analytical body with access to studio info have given the total breakdown of costs associated to The Batman and it's nowhere near your estimates. I know who to believe.


Studios don't publicly publish their financials for movies but there's also insiders and rival companies who can estimate a projects spend with good accuracy since they all deal in the same industry. It's not as if everything they do is in total secrecy and everyone not involved in the projects are oblivious to.

The Batman total expenditure calculated by Deadline puts it at $458mn, so it's BEP is $458mn.
Not the bogus amount you posted there.

Xavier5:
Aquaman 2 is in the DCU, but I hope the changes are for the better...

This is a massive dub....

Aquaman 2 isn't in the DCU just like Blue Beetle isn't. These are just corporate talk not to de-market the movie who feel less invested since the universe is ending.

Blue Beetle will be the first character for the DCU but it doesn't mean its in the DCU since it was finished filming even before Gunn became president. And there have been no reshoots.

Although, it can be worked out in the future to fit into the DCU, since it was produced mainly as a standalone and far removed from the dead DCEU.

Xavier5:


Then he has to learn to avoid making controversial statements, that's a learnable behavior. His hype and promotion is highly needed due to his key DC position and high social media platform.
If he cares about the franchise and his job, he will have to learn how to promote the film, and other DCU movies and series without making controversial statements. He has no option here. As a matter of fact, Zaslav should make him do it.



1.) Did you take note of the words, "production budget: maximum $200M," "marketing budget: maximum $200M," and "maximum BEP: $400M?"

Should I explain what "maximum" means also?

2.) Superman: Legacy is a blockbuster, so it has to be well/ properly budgeted, but its marketing and production budget shouldn't exceed $200M respectively. With this, going with the profitability standard/ formula, its BEP won't exceed $400M unlike films like The Batman, The Little Mermaid, Justice League etc



#Xavier
#DCian

This is cap right here. 🧢

Both The Batman and The Little Mermaid total production and marketing costs don't exceed $400mn.


The Batman production cost was $185-200mn and marketing cost was $135mn. So the total got you at $335mn. NB: The Batman original budget was $100mn, but COVID disruption and delays ballooned the cost to double.

TLM prod cost is $250mn + marketing budget of $150mn; that gets you $400mn.
Even The Flash massive budget has a marketing cap of over $100mn. The overall total gets you to $330mn.


There's rarely any blockbuster movie that spends $200mn in marketing. Even Avatar: The Way of The Water with its humongous production budget spent $175mn for marketing.

OhBritannia:
Thanks Very much for this information.
I don't think civilians can purchase or get such guns, both the one in extraction 2 and the one John wick used.
They must be made for special military squads but i might be wrong though.

I don't think you can get such weapons as a civilian even in gun stores.
Grenade launchers to the best of my knowledge are only used by paramilitary or military organizations or PMCs.

For incendiary rounds or ammunition, its use are restricted and can't be used recklessly. So I hardly see anyone getting it legally as a private individual. Even illegally sef it's gonna be hard. That's how restrictive its use is.

ShaqFu:


https ://www .indiewire. com/ features/general/john-wick-4-guns-chad-stahelski-interview-1234823769/#:~:
text=In%20%E2%80%9CWick%E2%80%9D%204%2C%20the,Dragon%27s%20Breath%2C%E2%80%9D%20is%20real.

Yep.

Just highlights the joke on people who take the John Wick fights and kills overtly serious.

Baddestguyp:
I heard Nanami was not in the manga for Jujutsu Kaisen movie 0
But they added him in the movie and gave him epic scenes for fanservice

But na this racially motivated fight of Gojo and Miguel I still like

The movie and the scenes was epic nonetheless as it didn't affect the quality of the story. If anything, it increased its entertainment value. stuff.

Can't wait....

OhBritannia:
Extraction part 2 is a solid 8.5/10 for me.
Now this is an absolute thrilling masterpiece.
They gave us nonstop action from the starting to the ending.
Every scene was top notch, from the gun dwells to the fight scene especially the prison fight scene in the prison Yard. That scene was 100% GOATED.
Extraction 2 is the first and only movie i have watched repeatedly this year.

Christ is one of the best actors in Hollywood, he brings his A game to all his scenes.
And guys!!!! That gun Chris shot at the last scene where the bullets sets anything or anyone it touches fire explosion.

Do we have such guns in reality?

It's called a grenade launcher. It doesn't necessarily uses a bullet. Instead it uses an explosive projectile.

If you're talking about bullets, then maybe you talking about the type John Wick used in this latest installment that sent goons flying and catching fire.
That type is a gun with incendiary bullets.

And yes they're all real weapons and used extensively on the battlefield.

Noice.... Just bring in Carol G and Bad Bunny for the musical score and we got ourselves some Latina perfecta.

andrew444:
Culers if this is true should we accept ?

Accept am sharp sharp without thinking twice.

I don't understand the stupid ban I've been suffering for two days now.


Octopussy, since I tried to send you link, I just dey chop ban ever since. 3 s banned back to back for two days. Now, If I quote anybody on something else na ban. If you get mod connect, yarn am now cos I don dey vex.
Just check on net _naija_ to get "Fool's Paradise".


Seun better resolve this issue cos it's getting annoying. If someone attached a picture to a post, you get redirected elsewhere. You'll battle with the system for two minutes before making a single post with pictures.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VgBKUofIdVo

Fatigue ain't fatiguing no more.... 😭😭

Kaycee7:
I'm never doubting the power of Family again.

See, if this hits a billion, I'm done being a humble F&F stan. I'll just be putting anybody who whines about this franchise on blast.

Omo, clear road for Toretto