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fairfora:
Reminds me of an event which took place in a village close to my town years back. This dog was busy battling with a six-inch nail which was almost covered by the bark of an old tree. The tree was close to the marketplace. This dog was busy removing the nail , barking same time , the whole of its mouth was filled with blood yet, it wouldn't give up. People gathered around to see what the dog was up to.

Barely 0ne hour after, the dog removed this long nail which had been embedded in the tree. Suddenly, a man who had hit the market for over 20 years ran out of hiding in same market, asking people to help him out , that he was looking so dirty, asking what must have happened to him. He was mentioning everybody he knew back then before he ran mad, including his siblings, he was able to still identify some pepple around ny their names. He ran to his house and people took to their heels. He said he's normal that people shouldn't run away. In short, he became completely well.

His tangled, long hair was cut off, he was bathed by a group of herbalists. The man today is married with good-looking children. Hes still alive, doing furniture work in that town. He had built a house and his children are all graduates. We learnt someone must have made him mad and nailed the charm to the tree and vowed that , until thw nail was removed, he would never regain his sense.

Dogs see more than our physical eyes.

now let's analyse this story
I'm very sure you didn't witness this
another thing, it was probably a mongrel slncw it happened in a village several years ago

which kind of dog can pull out a six inch nail out of a tree
that is impossible even to the strongest dogs lmaoo not to talk of a village dog.

no dog can pull out a 6 inch nail from a tree no matter how it struggles, saying it was bleeding still doesn't make the story believable

femmyapson:

you said spirits doesn't exist and you are saying dog cannot see anything that is not physical...Bros since spirits doesn't exist according to you..what is anything that is not physical again....

I feel like sending a Principality to tonight just to teach u a simple lesson that angels exist...But I won't do that...Will let a throne do the job so you will not die

why not send the principality to fight boko haram?
where were you when the country needed help to rescue the chobok girls?
why is it that your so called principality only works when you want to threaten someone to believe in your cause?

flokii:


It shows you are not exposed or you are an atheist.. the world we live in is more of spiritual than physical.

The watchmen and hunters of those days go hunting with herds of dogs for a reason which is security (from snakes, wild animals and enigmas).
Open your mind to your surroundings and you'd learn a lot

did you read what I typed at all?
men created dogs by breeding wolves and other of the canis species then trained them to hunt with them

how does that translate to the creator creating them to protect man?
you do realize that before dogs were domesticated they were wild animals that men had to fight off right?
there was never a divine pairing

dogs don't see spirits, they are very sensitive to sound or smell.
none of you have told us about a dog that told you otherwise, none of you have washed your eyes with dog urine to see spirits like you are claiming people did.
I've still not seen any reasonable proof other than "the dogs were barking", dogs bark for a lot of reasons and saying your dog was barking means it was seeing spirit is delusional.

i wonder when Nigerians will understand that because an old person says something it doesn't mean it's correct or factual.

Kenplay:

Ode.. Be there forming americana. You type just need a witch to look into your direction and sent you to your grave before you believe. No wonder you americana wannabe cant never hold political post because men who understand the spiritual world will always lord over you as your political leaders. Ode

imagine thinking you have accomplished anything because of your "spiritual knowledge' if not for the " americanna" you would have been stuck 90 years backwards.
you're really using a phone with internet, you enter vehicles and you live in a modern house yet you think "spiritual knowledge' makes you lord over people? lmaoo
what are you doing with your spiritual knowledge lately? arguing if dogs can see aliens on nairaland? plss

continue insulting development while also enjoying the privileges like a good hypocrite

flokii:


The Creator made dogs security animal and best friend to man.. they are to warn, protect you and ward off evil spirits in their vicinity.

Of course I don't expect those who see dogs as a delicacy to see any sense in that. So swerve!

the creator never made dog to be best friends to man or to be a security animal

men created all the different dog breeds we are seeing now from wolves and trained them to be what they are now.
and dogs where never used to ward of evil spirits by intelligent men, they were used to solves real problems and ward off real threats
same way Egyptians did with cats
there is no "divine" assignment attached to dogs, they are just like every other animal

mamaafrik:
think now,is it the spirit that killed them??.
That never stopped them from being an animal

oh so you really believe an animal intelligent enough to see witches, spirits and angels and demons and whatever crap you guys have been talking about and recognise them shouldn't be intelligent enough to know not to run in front of a car or not to eat something that'll kill it or not to use that it's "sense" to know when someone wants to poison it?
most dogs will hurriedly eat poisoned food but you guys are here arguing that they can see the supernatural.
dogs can barely see colour in the physical not to talk of seeing any supernatural thing

SenecaTheYonger:


Out of all the background noise, why do they choose that particular one?

because that is the one they thought was strange or required attention.
my dog hears footsteps our street every night and he doesn't react but the moment one footstep comes close to the gate he starts barking like crazy

you being inside will not hear the footsteps but he can hear it better than you because of his sensitive ears.

imagine me sitting inside the house saying he's barking because he saw spirit, do you see how ridiculous it sounds now?

flokii:
It's true.. dogs unlike humans have the special ability to see "spiritual" things

If their owner or loved one dies, they can see the ghost while other family can't.

They can sense the presence of angels and that of demons. Their instincts however tell them when to and when not to bark. It's good to have them as pet to ward off evil

so they can sense angels and demons but still get run over by cars?
which dog told you what it was seeing?

SenecaTheYonger:

Why did it focus on that particular noise?

that's how dogs do, my dog does it every night

mamaafrik:
Dogs ,crow bird ,goats and sheeps have been know and proven to possess the ability to read and dicern the supernatural things that the naked eyes can't,ask people who have spiritual abilities.
Many of those mermaid,aliens ,Dogs seeing ghost are not hoax.

if they can see all those things and be intelligent enough to understand them then why can't they predict their death?
why can't they easily escape when they are captured?
why do they still die such trivial deaths like being hit by a car?

CoronaVirusPro:
They do very much

Anybody who argues that fact has never been intouch with his roots

Even Hollywood movies portray it that they do

But not particularly witches or evil spirit. They see the spiritual

lmaoo see lie
imagine judging reality based on movies
don't Hollywood movies also show aliens and unicorns and vampires? does that mean they exist now?

fredopareto:
give example of wat dey hear..is it dog hearing dog or animal abi human...

anything, a dog can smell another dog or a person ing and start barking before they reach your sight

Macon1212:


You don't on anything about this, they see a lot in the spirit realm, there were people who used dog specks to make incision to their eyes and because they saw many evil spirits they died prematurely.

lmaoo did the dogs tell you this?
is it only Nigerian dogs that bark?
has any dog told you what it saw or you just assumed it could see spirits because you couldn't see or hear what it was barking at?
have you ever used the speck from any dogs eyes to see anything?
i really don't understand how in this current age people still believe childhood stories and superstitions

vincentjk:


Seconded, pits are really strong and dangerous but mostly over hyped. Have seen a pic of a boerboel dealing with an apbt here in Nigeria

I've also seen too

IamAnderson:

a lot of people don't know this but Caucasians are also used in dog fights, pitbulls aren't the only dog fighting breed.
several breeds can also be gamebred and dog fighting sports in other continents use a lot of breeds people refer to as "lazy and too big"

in Europe,pitbulls aren't the dog fighting champions they are in America. several other European breeds, some are not even ed or recognised as a dog breed beat them.
this reminds me of when I was reading a European dog forum and the question popped up and people gave their answers

this is from the comments on bullymax website

Dreazy23:


Thanks for all the detailed info, Caucasian owners know what their dogs are capable of, I’ve heard so many people say the breed is lazy and all. The same people have not seen what the breed is capable of
P.s a Caucasian won’t fight a Pitbull unless the Pitbull comes to its territory(it’s intellectually proud and doesn’t jump into fights).

Here’s a break down of a Caucasian shepherds:
Thick coat - meaning bites or kicks are cushion before it reaches the body
Dense bone structure- meaning a blow from this dogs are serious
The teeth - their bite force is quite high
The weight of the dog - ( please Caucasian owners can you left your dogs?) imagine a that hitting you at full speed

You can’t tell me that a Caucasian is not built for a fight

I would also say that keeping guard dog is for deterring intruders and this breed is fit for such

a lot of people don't know this but Caucasians are also used in dog fights, pitbulls aren't the only dog fighting breed.
several breeds can also be gamebred and dog fighting sports in other continents use a lot of breeds people refer to as "lazy and too big"

in Europe,pitbulls aren't the dog fighting champions they are in America. several other European breeds, some are not even ed or recognised as a dog breed beat them.
this reminds me of when I was reading a European dog forum and the question popped up and people gave their answers

Gabrokpara001:


Thank you for your very detailed and analyzed explanation.it baffles me how people think pitbull will match a CO in a dog fight. CO are much larger and ll cause great damage to a pitbull who is just a medium size breed. The hype around pitbulls is something else really

Americans will tell you a pitbull can take out any dog breed but in the dog fights they like boasting about "gamebred" they set the pits up with other Pitts or smaller dogs like Labradors or huskys
you'll never see them set them up with a gamebred kangal, Caucasian, Tibetan mastiff, cane corso or others

pitbulls aren't weak dogs, don't get me wrong but most of the thing surrounding that breed is pure raw American patriotic hype

SawftO42:

Yes pitbulls are recently being used in the military and again if a pitbull and cauc get into a fight i mean the Pitbull has the upper hand, because the pitbull is naturally and historically bred to fight and it is built as such, so it won't stop the fight until death no matter how long it takes which i can't say the same for the caucs. So i hope say you barb what i dey talk.

I don't like this whole Caucasian vs pitbull argument neither is it important to the conversation we are having now but let me just ask you some questions.
if pitbulls are so good at fighting, why do they only set them up with other pitbulls or dogs their size or smaller?
why do they categorize dogs used in professional dog fighting according to size?
do you think pitbulls are the only dog fighting breed?
why don't people let their pitbulls protect their livestock from wild animals?
do you think wolves and coyotes aren't plenty in America? why don't they use pitbulls to fight them away?
the pitbull is not the only dog that can be gamebred neither is it the only breed used in dog fighting, it's just the most popular because it's the most popular and one of the only dog fighting breeds in America which is the continent with the biggest and most popular dog fighting Industry.
there are several dogs that will take out a pitbull don't be deceived by media hype, it happens

SawftO42:

There is no difference between your household guard dogs and the the K9 Unit dog, you can train your gsd to be like them. I was just using them as example. As you have said caucs are livestock guardian dogs mainly because the wolves might mistake them for lions and refuse to attack while the gsd are used to catch thieves because of their endurance etc, there is a reason for everything. That is just what i have been trying to say, the Caucasians body weight has disadvantage because they can't carry that much body to do anything for a long time but it intimidates intruders. Yes pitbulls are recently being used in the military and again if a pitbull and cauc get into a fight i mean the Pitbull has the upper hand, because the pitbull is naturally and historically bred to fight and it is built as such, so it won't stop the fight until death no matter how long it takes which i can't say the same for the caucs. So i hope say you barb what i dey talk.

so what's your point now?
you said caucs are extremely lazy but several eye witness reports proved you wrong.
you tried bringing in the K9 unit argument which we also showed you how it wasn't a sensible argument considering the fact that a dog guarding property doesn't have anything to do with K9 unit movement.
you said caucs weren't used to guard prisons, I showed you different websites all confirming their presence in prisons.
now you're bringing in dog fighting? lmaoo just say you don't like caucs and go, no need of all these angles you're trying to use to trash the breed.
the fact is that you may not like the breed and it's fine, everyone has their own opinion and choice, but one fact is that all these other dogs you've called cannot do the work of a Caucasian better than it even as you've been talking about how the weight is a disadvantage which is why people are still training them to work even as they are not easy to raise or train.

For a dog in the field of a Caucasian or any other dog in that rank, body mass is a necessity and they are purposefully bred to have body mass, stop acting like the mass is a disease.
not every dog needs to be an athlete to be useful, different dogs have different strengths and weaknesses for different purposes

stop using the strength of a breed to judge another breed, it doesn't make sense, there is a reason why dog breeds have variety.
pick the one that matches the job you want it to do and your lifestyle and move on.

even the gsd or Mali are useless or subpar in certain scenarios you put them that doesn't play to their strengths.

SawftO42:

If you are saying the gsd and mali can't hold down thieves then why are they mostly used in the K9 Unit? You can check Youtube videos and you will see how the gsd and mali operate smoothly in the K9 Unit, they hold down thieves until the officer in charge arrive the scene and i don't mean staged videos. Even Russia Military wey you see for internet say them dey use caucasian that one na audio, go to Russia and see the Breed of dogs they use there or you can ask someone who lives there. And frowland now said after few kicks he can break free from a Malinois well at this point i rest my case, dz one weak me

then when it's a K9 unit dog they want to chase criminals see the breed they use as police dog.
you can watch videos of Caucasian shepherd training to see where they train them to guard property and livestock on tubidy, YouTube and so many Russian websites, that's where I get training tips for my dog.

SawftO42:

If you are saying the gsd and mali can't hold down thieves then why are they mostly used in the K9 Unit? You can check Youtube videos and you will see how the gsd and mali operate smoothly in the K9 Unit, they hold down thieves until the officer in charge arrive the scene and i don't mean staged videos. Even Russia Military wey you see for internet say them dey use caucasian that one na audio, go to Russia and see the Breed of dogs they use there or you can ask someone who lives there. And frowland now said after few kicks he can break free from a Malinois well at this point i rest my case, dz one weak me

this is from a Google search, bullymax.com and Russian dog.net they all say the same thing

SawftO42:

If you are saying the gsd and mali can't hold down thieves then why are they mostly used in the K9 Unit? You can check Youtube videos and you will see how the gsd and mali operate smoothly in the K9 Unit, they hold down thieves until the officer in charge arrive the scene and i don't mean staged videos. Even Russia Military wey you see for internet say them dey use caucasian that one na audio, go to Russia and see the Breed of dogs they use there or you can ask someone who lives there. And frowland now said after few kicks he can break free from a Malinois well at this point i rest my case, dz one weak me

is your house a K9 unit?
has any of your dogs ever chased, caught and held down an intruder for you?
you live in a compound right? where is your malinois running to?
does it have up to 5mins running space in your compound?
and I really don't get people using K9 unit to judge household guard dogs
in an enclosed space you need a dog that has strength to take down intruders and a dog that is intimidating to repel intruders before they even attack.
in Russia they use Mali and gsd for field work where they need to chase down criminals for long and catch them, then they lock the Caucasians in the farm or prison compound to attack and maim any strange face that enters.
which of these two scenarios matches the average Nigerian guard dog's lifestyle?
even K9 units of police stations have rottweilers,Doberman and recently few pitbulls have been added when they want the dogs to do serious damage.
them too they know that gsd or Mali isn't really a lethal attack dog so I don't get why you're arguing about this.
mastiffs and other big dogs have always been the type of dogs used to guard property, while Mali and gsd are used to assist the military.
your house is not a K9 unit neither do you even need or follow K9 unit protocol or scenarios so using the "they are used in the K9 unit" argument is ridiculous
go and watch videos of Russian dog trainers and see the breed they train to guard property and livestock and the one they train to assist military.

Dreazy23:


Legit, When I take Rex and Bailey to play with my neighbors dog(gsd), Rex just covers him. Even when the gsd is running all my cauc has to do is Time his move and knock the gsd down. Pretty straight forward

And I think that’s what the breed is know for, you come into it’s territory it knocks you out. No time to do racing with you. Caucasian jump but not to climb a fence, they can stretch out their body length so I believe even if you were fast enough to reach the fence you’d probably cross it with a scar

this is so true, I've witnessed this thing before.
mere playing tug of war with the two different breeds will tell you the one that is stronger or has more stamina on the floor.
gsd is better built for speed and agility but it is no match to a Caucasian when it comes to strength or stamina.
it just depends on what you want.

SawftO42:

Where is the negative advice? I am just stating the reality, Caucasians are nice Dogs to get no doubt, i was only trying to say that they can't maintain their top speed for long, Their early charge at strangers alone is enough to make someone scared with their deep barks which makes them good security Dogs. IamAnderson wey talk say him dog wan pursue person kill you for ask am how many metres the dog maintain constant speed without slowing down, because person like me if you give me head start caucasian no fit catch me but Malinois will surely chase me even if i jump fence it will follow me and jump easily, so i hope you understand my point of view .

I agree you cannot compare a Caucasian's agility to a Mali or gsd which is why Caucasians aren't used to chase and catch thieves they are used to keep intruders away and kill them if it comes to that stage.
And also, chasing and catching thieves isn't something like a standard that dogs need to be able to do to prove their worth.
how many household gsd and mali have you seen that caught a thief and held the thief down for it's owner?
the way you guys throw in chasing thieves into every conversation like this someone would think you're working in the K9 unit of a military department.

the main purpose of having a guard dog is for it to repel intruders, whether by barking or attacking, how many of your dogs have actually caught someone and held them down for you?
has your dog ever jumped fence with someone to catch them?
how many meters is your compound that a Caucasian cannot sprint through in seconds?

military work isn't something that should be used to judge dogs when you're not in that field pls.
there is a reason why in Europe they use gsd and Mali for field work and to chase and track criminals buy they use Caucasians on their farms and to guard prisons
two different types of dogs for two different purposes, it just depends on what you want.

Konji3368:
Apart from intimidation, how again is their weight an advantage?

strength and stamina

vincentjk:


Wow I didn't know this bro, you know I'm not really a fan when it comes to caucs

it'll surprise you but Nigeria's Caucasian market is one of the best outside of Europe

Dreazy23:

Not at all, they’re might look sluggish but when it gets real, you’d be surprised. My Caucasians, especially Rex loves running and only stays one place during the day cause of the sun, once it’s evening he moves(at night he’s on fire, he out runs me). Walks are the same, don’t let the size of Caucasians fool you.

lol same way my dog behaves, he's only sluggish when the sun is hot because of his fur.
once it's evening or night, he plays football with us and he chases us around and also wrestles and plays tug of war.
they are surprisingly quick for their size and when there is a stranger his energy and aggression comes out.
I've seen mine squeeze himself through the space in our electrician's ladder to attack someone and he has pushed down 3 of our window frames(the one that carries the net) because he was trying to through the window to attack someone.

Yeecar:

I Wonder how people come up with misconceptions to ignorantly mislead people.
How can you say caucasians cant run? I thank God i didn't listen to negative advice before buying my Caucasian.

if you listen to what people say online you'll think Caucasians are slow and sluggish and they cannot do anything
one thing I always wonder is how people will see a bully weighing 170 pounds with very ridiculous stacking that doesn't even look reasonable and still say the dog is active but when they see a Caucasian weighing 110 pounds and start saying "this one fit run sef"
some even go ahead to say they aren't aggressive, in reality I've never seen an adult Caucasian that isn't aggressive.

I bet you, if Caucasians were hairless and muscular, people will not be talking like this

from my experience with them, both with mine and others I've seen and handled plus the other Caucasian owners I know, the breed isn't bad at all, if you want a mid-energy dog with strong guard instincts then the Caucasian is your dog

Namdeenero:
That’s Jagaban

nice

vincentjk:


Where's ekuke kennels located? I heard they've good stock, once saw a brown wide American bully online belonging to them in 2016

I don't own no Caucs but I like the pictures posted so far sha

they are in port Harcourt

vincentjk:


Gsds look smart and are very sharp in reality, when walking them their movement says its all maybe because they're mid-sized dogs sha, such are malis

true that's my point, most times people judge by appearance
caucs aren't athletes yes but they are not lazy, when it comes to being a security dog they are quick on their feet and active.
yesterday I took Roscoe for mating and I left him chained in the female's compound so we could go and call someone else to help assist the mating.
when we came back the guy that we brought just walked inside the compound and when I went to loosen Roscoe's chain so we could start the mating he started barking and charged after him and chased him through the compound (and it was a big compound) I ran after them until I caught his chain just at the right time before he got his leg and started pulling him back, by that time they had already entered the street and Roscoe was still dragging and lunging at him.
funny thing is that just few minutes before that happened, the guy and other people there were joking about how Roscoe is too big to walk or run, later they all ran away.

they are not athletes or sport inclined but that doesn't mean they are lazy, when it comes to actually doing there job(which is guarding and not jogging) they do it with vigour