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panpan:


Some foreigners are interested in our continent (Africa). They want the continent, but they don't want native Africans in it.

And you think they can't do that by other ways.
The problem is that you people do not understand the level of allegation you are making.
For you to say that these vaccines are programmed to harm people that would mean that health agencies like the FDA and EMA are not just compromised but evil and if that is so they can carry out there plans using other drugs that we take.

So you see its a heavy allegation and anyone who truly believes that the vaccines have a sinister purpose should quit taking Orthodox drugs .

samsard:
I don't think anyone is superior to me, but you're suffering from inferiority complex and trying too hard to hide it. It's your choice even if you want to wear leaves and feel superior, just know they're far ahead of you in science and tech and all your rambling won't change that. You'll still use gadgets developed there and take drugs developed by their researchers, board vehicles designed and manufactured there. Chill, bro.

Ask him why he prefers to watch the premiership instead of the NPFL

Angelfrost:


Who are the authorities??! What made them authorities??!

I reserve a right to think independently, rather than move with the gullible crowd being fed every cock and bull like you worshiper of all things foreign.

You are free to lower or denigrate yourself as well as your nation, but feel free to leave me out of such unnecessary condescension. Thank you.

Perfect

While you are at it make sure u don't take drugs made by foreigners cos the same FDA that approved this vaccine is the ones who approve the drugs u take,abi na only vaccine wey chip fit dey
Why stop there
Please also do your own Quality control before you consume edibles coming from foreign countries who knows,the chips might be in your favourite Cognac
You might also want to rid yourself of all foreign philosophy and religious beliefs

Intact throw away all the knowledge you got from research by white people okay

that way you won't be condescending low like the rest of us

Angelfrost:
Let's just be honest with ourselves...

Those vaccines were already prepared and waiting before the cultivated virus was released in Wuhan.

I don't subscribe to conspiracy theories, but it is quite hard or even impossible not see the sinister hands of global puppeteers in all these since 2020.

Authorities in the field have said there is no sufficient evidence that the virus was created but somehow u discovered they are wrong.

You know the thing is this,we are a third world country, it would always reflect in our reasoning

preneur:


Everyone's entitled to his opinion(s). There's no resentment or fight. We're cool.

The major point is alcohol does more harm to the body than good. So if wine heals, definitely it's not because of alcohol. Alcohol is not a better option for good health.

PEACE

preneur:


You too should educate yourself. IT IS NOT EVERY WINE THAT'S ALCOHOLIC.

What heals the body, is it the alcohol content or the juice extracted.

I repeat, Alcohol does more harm to the body than Good. There are wines Nonalcoholic. EDUCATE YOURSELF YOU NEED IT MORE, my brother man.

You know the funny thing you can say what you want,you can hold any position u want it doesn't change anything.

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I'm having a hard time ing a picture to prove my point,believe whatever u like,like I said it doesn't change anything. The people who coined and use the word wine stated and agree on what it means if you think otherwise and maybe decide to say that wine is a vegetable that is your opinion and you are entitled to it no one cares

preneur:
The bible emphasises on wine. It says it's good.

Medically, alcohol does more harm to the body than good. You know what that means? It's simply not advisable. So if Bible says wine is good for the health, then definitely it's not the alcoholic.

Ultimately, My Brother Reno missed the target.

This is the second time I am seeing this kind of comment
Please educate yourselves WINE IS ALCOHOL

What makes a drink an alcohol is not that it comes in a green bottle,there is a chemical reaction that takes place in the brewing or otherwise preparation of the wine or whatever drink it is. Conversion of SUGAR to ALCOHOL .This process is called fermentation. Any drink where this process occurs is an ALCOHOL and it surely occurs in every thing called wine. However the alcohol level in different alcoholic wines differ. You might even be shocked to discover that wine has a higher alcoholic content than some beers

EDUCATE YOURSELVES !!

Op I know a certain Nweke Ugochukwu
Do u live in Bayelsa ?

Dollywood:


Actually you're wrong here.

Nobody will ask what your religion is before he/she gives you a job.

Nobody will ask for your religion before he/she will render a favour. Atheism/Agnosticism is still minor, I don't really let most people know about it because they are too many religious extremist out there that will annihilate you because you're not religious or label you as a demon.

To add to that if you are rich or successful no one cares if u are an atheist or not,even pastors would dine with u
But for an average Nigerian sometimes you need religion to socialize,depending on the environment

Farki:
Unnecessary statements and articles why would Trump launch a nuclear weapon now? I know Trump is stupid but surely nobody can be that stupid.

People can change ooh
Hitler,Stalin,Idi Amin and the rest started well before they turned into animals
The concern raised should be considered, you can't trust such power into just one man

He had Brahma and Vishnu and he chose Shiva but what do I know

Buliwyf:


If Bill Gates want to kill you, you will be dead already. Lol.

You guys don't produce anything in your country and rely on imported medicine and food. If someone wants to kill you they don't need to go through the trouble of telling you to take a vaccine. There are already many ways to end you with less hassle.

Asin eeh

A test hasn't even been conducted to determine the cause of her death and u people are already bashing Bill Gates.
Are u not ashamed of urself.
You would not contribute anything to help humanity,some people bring solutions that would benefit u as well and all u can do is castigate.


Ignorance is bliss

Please make una continue in ur ignorance u hear,shebi the world has left us behind

The biggest problem we have is we are satisfied with our ignorance,we think we know while we don't.
When I see all these people shouting mRNA this mRNA that I begin to wonder,what do u know about mRNA sef,a field u know nothing about u are gloating up and down

Na wa ooh

You would not offer any solution to solve the problem at hand
People offer effective solutions and all you do is run it down with ur stupid conspiracy theories

SHAME ON YOU !!!!!



The reasoning of some of you eeh


smh

All these people saying she no fine abeg post ur pictures or ur sisters pictures make we see

KosiGee:


Height is involved. Her height and built(physique)

Can you imagine Chukwueze with his height, built having Giannis Adetokunbo’s feet or wearing his trainers

Can you imagine El Rufai wearing Dino Melaye or Atiku Abubakar’s agbada or babaringa. He will look very abnormal na....

I digress

I know height is involved,what I said was her "main" problem ......
besides the girl is not so short 5 4" for a girl is not bad

KosiGee:
Those saying her breasts are not big...

She’s 5ft 4...breast size 32HH

That’s a VW Golf with the headlights or tyres of Dangote Truck.

the main problem is not even her height but her band size,its just 32,that means she is kinda slim

Exile - Taylor Swift ft Bon Iver

20.10.20 - Burna boy

Lemonade - Internet money ft Don Tolliver,Nav and Gunna

Way too big - Burna boy

Beautiful people - Chike

Shortyy:
People like Nicki Minaj haven't gotten Grammy, but here we are..

na Katy Perry own we dey mad me

ClassicMan202:


Very correct, of a truth, all those who get over-emotional over been called black are really ashamed of their colour, now tell me a white guy who will be angry for been called white?

It is because we the black race has refused to take our destinies in our hands and move our race forward, so everything black is associated with failure and backwardness, hence the need to distance themselves from the colour.

Clear example: A tall guy won't mind you referring yo him as tall guy but a short person will pick offense when called short.

Exactly

At best I can say the 4th ref was insensitive but racist,I'm not sure

Assuming it was a black ref that referred to a white guy in the midst of blacks as "that white guy" would it be considered racist

And like u said,a tall person would not be ashamed to be identified as "the tall guy" but a short person might be
Some blacks are too insecure, that's what I can take from this,we are too emotional and sensitive when it comes to race as if we are saints,we also say things that could as racism or ethnic bigotry.
In Igboland,if u do something stupid they would say you are behaving like an Hausa,I can bet that over 70% of Igbo's raised in Igbo speaking states have used that phrase before

pagekollection2:


respect the dead

Actually the message is for the living

BLUELemon:
I cried while watching the movie The Curious Case of Benjamin Button

The movie wasn't that saddening what scene made u emotional

nwaezeemmanuel:
2. The Funnily Annoying Twins

I understand the twins provided some comic relief but their accents was a no for me,its like whitewashing

nwaezeemmanuel:
I think Gabriel Afolayan acted decently. Temi Otedola had issues transitioning into emotions - quite expected as she's not well experienced.

In this scene, she struggled with translating emotions.

I agree with this 100%. I noticed her facial expressions and body language was below par,its why she is a rookie after all

Rgade:
He was just helping him align his jockstrap.
His gbola was poking out
But the thing was crazy

Here is what seems like a plausible explanation to the incident. His dick was botched and he was helping him align it

shadeyinka:

You err!
First, You are NOT God's children.
And
Unfortunately, death is just HOME COMING!

Oh really,what happened to

"I SHALL NOT DIE BUT LIVE TO DECLARE THE WORKS OF THE LORD"

and how does your reply fit into the question I asked

shadeyinka:

Your question is easy to answer.

As a human being, from my small frame of reference, I will ask for a punishment less than eternal torment. I will want something proportionate to earths solar calendar punishment.


Unfortunately for me, I didn't decide that eternity will be timeless. I didn't decide that man should live forever. I didn't decide anything in my frame of reference.

Like I told you before. If God is perceived to be higher than man in comparison to man and bacteria in his toilet, the question of morality of God could be debated

If you feel the gap is just about equal with God and man (as with man and bacteria) shoot your shot!


Your warnings, you have treated as scornful. In the consequence you wish to pull out the card of morality. I am NOT your judge. Your judge is God and every microbe useless to Him, he rejects perpetually!

the bolded is what I have been asking you and your compatriots,at least we agree that humans should be given finite punishments for finite transgression.

The difference between the both of us is that I question God's decision to punish finite transgression with the hell concept which is totally unreasonable to me and that casts aspersions on God's nature .On the other hand,you a Christian accepts whatever the bible says and whatever your God does is acceptable in your eyes even if he hurts human beings in the most painful way you would accept that as being just and Godly

@ your last paragraph, since humans by nature are insignificant to your God I wonder why he is interested in us,I wonder why our actions hurt him I mean a microbe can not move my emotions,how come we are able to move Gods emotion's ?. So much for microscopic humans ? .
Anyways since we as humans are so despised by your God,he can treat us as he wishes,he can give us punishments that are unimaginable,he can choose to not intercede when people are suffering,I wonder why you worship him but that's not my concern,however requesting others to you in such toxic relationship is disdainful to me

I wanted to ignore this though but I guess I can reply afterall

Luk 12:48: "But he that knew not, and did commit things worthy of stripes, shall be beaten with few stripes. For to whomsoever much is given, of him shall be much required: and to whom men have committed much, of him they will ask the more."

There is no strong reason to believe that Jesus was directly referring to punishment for sin in hell,you can quote the preceding verses of this age to convince me otherwise

Mat 16:27: "For the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father with his angels; and then he shall reward every man according to his works."

Rev 22:12: "And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be."

Although this unlike the first age is talking about punishment he shall reward every man according to his works could also be seen to mean,he would send sinners to hell according to their works(evil) and believers to heaven according to their works(good). Again this doesn't unequivocally state that in hell your punishment would be quantified by the level of evil you committed.
I'm not saying you are wrong,I'm saying the ages you quoted can also be interpreted differently and your interpretation doesn't seem to be the most accurate

Let me ask you a question.

Is rejection of a bad product by a manufacturer wrong?
Hell is simply a place of rejection.

If hell was simply a place for rejection there would be no need for this argument, would there ?
The problem is not that hell is a place for rejection, the problem is that it is also a place for unimaginable torture

About Fairness, I can't speak about that for it depends from whose point of view is the so called fairness.
Let me explain:
When I pour Disinfectant into my toilet and I kill in one go 100million bacteria: would you consider it as fair or unfair?

The relative magnitude of gap between a human and a bacteria is so great that it is meaningless to speak about fairness.

If you think that the perceived gap between God and humans is closer than that between humans and bacteria, then we can start debating fairness

Good point,now let me even expand it

I can be justified for killing bacteria even if killing is unfair because its a threat to my life. But supposing I see a cockroach which possess no direct threat to my life,I would kill it because it an inconvenience to me and I consider my comfort to be more important than the life of a cockroach, a lot of people share the same sentiments too. Is that fair ?,to the cockroach I do not think so,if it was sentient and capable of thought it would regard me as wicked and vile. We can even extend the conversation to plants as well since they are living.
The point is this,the animals we kill or "maltreat",at least most of them are incapable of higher reasoning,so they do not recognize what we do to them as unfair,I do not regard it as being unfair either because I do not consider the life of animals to be more important than my comfort.
If you are going to argue that in the same manner you God can met out any level of punishment he so wishes to humans since his comfort is more important than the life and feelings of humans then I can not describe him in human and perception of good and evil as GOOD just the same way as I wouldn't regard myself as GOOD in an animals level of understanding of GOOD and EVIL(if at all there is such a thing) and I would definitely not compel it to worship me and love me.
So for you to love and be loyal to a being which can not relate with human feelings and comfort just as we can not relate with the "feelings and comfort" of bacteria is unbelievable to me and its either a borderline case of Stockholm's syndrome or you are coerced into such loyalty to avoid punishment.
However humans can afford to be "cruel" or "unjust" to animals and other living beings because often times we don't have a choice,even they are "cruel" to their likes and no one blames them for ut,but your God is omnipotent and he has alternatives. If I could,rather than kill the cockroach I would simply make it disappear to another location rather than kill the Christmas chicken for meat I would simply make chicken meat appear in front of me. Your God has other options but he chooses to walk the punitive and vindictive route,he does not deserve my iration.
You can even make the excuse for humans dealing harshly with animals because they do not understand what it feels to be in their shoes,most humans don't even think or care if animals are able to process thoughts of what they go through in the way that humans do,I mean they don't appear to able to do so. But your God has perfect understanding of what humans feel,he was even said to be human at some point,so to subject people to unimaginable pain because of transgressions that we as humans may not even punish them for,I can not regard such a being as Good and worthy of my worship and if it exists I consider it to be (for lack of better words) despiteful

shadeyinka:

That a wicked man will exhibit his wickedness as an action of his OWN free will!
And
A good man by his own free will will exhibit his goodness in spite of the evil of the wicked man

What is free will when you are prevented of exhibiting your real nature?

If a man wants to shoot your son,would you prevent him from doing so ?
By so doing aren't you restricting his free will and preventing him from exhibiting his real nature ?

shadeyinka:


Luk 12:48: "But he that knew not, and did commit things worthy of stripes, shall be beaten with few stripes. For to whomsoever much is given, of him shall be much required: and to whom men have committed much, of him they will ask the more."

Mat 16:27: "For the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father with his angels; and then he shall reward every man according to his works."

Rev 22:12: "And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be."



Let me ask you a question.

Is rejection of a bad product by a manufacturer wrong?
Hell is simply a place of rejection.

About Fairness, I can't speak about that for it depends from whose point of view is the so called fairness.
Let me explain:
When I pour Disinfectant into my toilet and I kill in one go 100million bacteria: would you consider it as fair or unfair?

The relative magnitude of gap between a human and a bacteria is so great that it is meaningless to speak about fairness.

If you think that the perceived gap between God and humans is closer than that between humans and bacteria, then we can start debating fairness


Hell is a place of torment and there is no debate about that.

I have addressed the OP based on his argument that visiting a sin of 80years with a 1million years judgment is unfair.

Let me save us the trouble of this back and forth as we are already derailing from the point I'm trying to make. Please answer this question and I would indeed love it if u can give me a simple and direct reply.

ASSUMING God seeks your counsel on punishment for sin would you the hell punishment or suggest something finite and less gruesome ?

Now like your predecessors you can choose to avoid giving a direct answer to the question and rather focus on finding faults in the question and of course the reason is obvious,a direct answer would either implicate your faith or humanity

Phraences:

If you read the old testament, yes, it makes sense. The God of the old testament can do something like that. Just because Jesus came, people have forgotten the God of the old Testament. A God that struck someone down because he tried to hold the Ark of the convenant. A God that commanded the Israelites to kill everybody including women and children of some tribes they ed through on their way to the promised land. To that God, we are cockroaches so yes, hellfire makes sense.

Does it make sense to YOU ?

shadeyinka:

On the surface you look like you are making some good sense except that you didn't factor in the fact that in eternity time doesn't exist!

Do you think a righteous God should punish rapists, murderers, evil and all who cause pain for others?

The punishment is a rejection of such kinds of people into God's refuse bin because they have been REJECTED as unsuitable for living in God's kingdom. The place of rejection is called HELL. In hell, the punishment is proportional to the gravity of negative lifestyle of such a person.

Now, about your argument of a man living on earth for a mere 80years while his punishment will last for millions of years. This is an absolute display of ignorance concerning time. TIME doesn't exist in eternity!

Let me explain with an example and analogy to you if perhaps you will be humble enough to understand. An example of our experience where events take place in a timeless environment is in our DREAMS. Within a dream world, you can get pregnant, give birth to a baby and send the child to secondary school. Within the dream space, you feel like it is normal time. But in real solar calendar time, all the dream could be in 5minuites.

In other words, Hell is like being locked in a perpetual NIGHTMARE. It looks real, it feels real (for it is real) but in a realm where time doesn't exist!

If you can't comprehend this, so be it!

When you say that the punishment in hell is proportional to the gravity of a persons negative lifestyle,is that your personal view or can you that with scriptural references

I think the Op asked a simple question,based on your understanding of the TIMELESS eternity as it were, do you consider it fair ?

I would also want to know if the TIMELESS eternity is any less of a torment than the Op described