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HellVictorinho7:
what you call nonsense,another may call rationality.

It is not nonsense because I think It's nonsense, it is nonsence because it is unscientific, filled with errors, and contradictions.

Richwallet:



Sodomy is the Devil's religion, in Africa, witch doctors and women witches have same sex, sex with animals, in order to conjure demons, therefore only the Devil blesses Sodomy.


What is sodomy?
Sodomy refers to specific sexual acts that occur between heterosexual or homosexual individuals. Sodomy includes oral and anal sex. Sodomy also includes sexual activity between an individual and an animal, which is known as bestiality.

That's your religious belief, follow it if you want but dont force it on other people.

It is none of your business what gender somebody is attracted to. Our laws should not be based on religion, so stop bringing your silly religious beliefs into this matter.

If someone is gay, that is their business, if someone is straight that is their business. You dont have to personally agree with it, but you have to respect the rights of others.

Speaklove:
Atheists have no foundation
They have no structure on which to base their belief

Atheism is not a belief. The structure of religion is man made stories and writings that requires you to put aside rationality to believe in.

Everyone is born an atheist, then they get indoctrinated into a particular religion... and some people successfully un-indoctrinate themselves.

MindHacker9009:
Judaism is the only true religion.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O7PLUrCsz6s

All religions are man made stories and writings. Even your Judaism.

Richwallet:

Because order matters, Order means what is first of all and what comes first. The first one has power over all the others that rank after. Whoever eats first may eat all and leave none or very little for the second. If paganism comes first then the judges will give consent to sacrifice, slavery or any other crazy tradition but the judges will silence any protesters or victims. slaves had no voice because Kings had approved it.

Against what "order"? And how is it your business what gender someone decides to like?

Stop forcing your religious views and beliefs on other people.

What's wrong with that? The love life of two adults is none of your business.

Countries that have legalised it are doing far better than we are. So what exactly are we scared of?

Thanking God doesn't heal anything.

When white supremacist were killing black people left and righ, where was his outrage.

This is not a trans problem. America has a gun problem and people like Ben Shapiro won't want the govt to restrict gun access, but will rather blame trans people while ignoring the bigger problem.

Cry more.

Dtruthspeaker:


When your pencils are arguing would it concern you? Or would you obey your ruler when it says "come let me measure you"?

If the creator is demanding worship and service, and obedience to his instructions (otherwise he tortures you for all eternity) then we have a very good reason to query his apparent non-existence.

nans24:


Is he forcing you to worship him?
Did anybody from any religion put a gun on your head and force you to worship him?
Why is his absence bothering you so much?
God dey e own u dey here dey talk like parrot.

Na wa.

If a god made the world as many religion claims to have happened, then it should be of concern to any reasoning believer why he is nowhere to be found in the world.

Is there really a god? Well there's no solid evidence that would lead us to a belief in a god or gods. There are at best philosophical arguments on whether or not a god exists, or must have to exist.

As a rationalist I personally don't believe in a god, nor do I think we need a belief in a god to function in our day to day lives or be ethical, moral and kind people.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rsCul1sp4hQ&t=128s

Pager, a nine year old Macaque, plays MindPong with his Neuralink.

How rich would you be right now?

How much would you earn monthly?

truespeak:


You say this erroneously for if you knew the true meaning of be-lieve you would see that it only comes after you have asked all the reasonable questions that can be asked and after trying the answers they stood and withstood the fire, then you know you can begin to live (believe), lean, rely, stand on it.

Anything called believe, that did not go through these test is just air, false and cannot be relied for it will surely fail you in the day of adversity!

That would be the case if Christians had any evidence for the stories of the bible. All too often they accept the claims and stories which have no evidence to back them up. What is the basis of a garden of eden, noah's flood, exodus from egypt crossing a parted river, soddom and Gomorrah, heaven and hell. You can't base a belief in the bible based on valid evidence otherwise you would most stories have no basis.

Ill be waiting for you to prove otherwise....

truespeak:

That is what I love about God and His rule.

You can and are even permitted to question His works of course within the laws of good reason.

Any that says do not question God, is actually in truth saying "abeg no ask me, I no know"

For if you do not question, how can you know, and if you do not know you cannot be reasonably held responsible for that which you do not know nor can you be reasonably expected to know!

Questions, reasonable questions lead to knowledge and with knowledge, there is now no further need to question!

That is the way of God, let none tell you otherwise!

It's better to have questions you can't answer than answers you can't question. There are some things in the bible that must be accepted as true, and any question and conclusion that states otherwise are false. For example, the belief that Jesus was the messiah. The Jews have asked this question, looked at their old testaments scriptures and disagreed he was the messiah based on the scriptures, are they wrong?

truespeak:


The Bible never recommended nor ed slavery!

It simply recognised that man held his fellow man as slaves and rather told him to set them free after a period of time for it understood that to tell man to give up his slaves immediately would be hard for the "slave owner" and on the other hand may constitute a problem for the man in slavery who may have no place to go back to of course whom the "slave owner" shall wickedly kick out with nothing!

That only applied to Hebrew male slaves. Female were not to be set free. Also any foreign slaves, male or female were made slaves for life even going as far as to call them "your property". You don't even know the bible you profess properly.

truespeak:

But with the time frame, they can both adjust to the freedom of the "slave"

None of you consider that it is very vexatious to God for a man to claim ownership of his fellow man, creation claiming ownership of his fellow creation!

The bible clearly and explicitly ed savery. Stop denying it

Leviticus 25:44-45
New King James Version
44 And as for your male and female slaves whom you may have—from the nations that are around you, from them you may buy male and female slaves. 45 Moreover you may buy the children of the strangers who dwell among you, and their families who are with you, which they beget in your land; and they shall become your property.

truespeak:

No one can claim ownership of man, save his True Owner and Creation.

This is wrongful conversion of property belonging to another and a wickedness of man to his fellow man.

All the Things God Hates!

If you knew God's mind eh!

On genocide, do we not kill snakes, even baby snakes, why? So they do not harm and kill us.

Do we wait for them to hurt us first? No, we do not, we kill it on sight as Nairaland is very famous for posting!

This is same for an Evil man and for his children, for a snake must give birth to a snake!

Many times God commanded the isrealites many times to kill the inhabitants of cannan and take over their cities. He even said they should kill their young ones. You can deny it all you want but it is there in the scriptures.

truespeak:


See you have spoken the truth here, you would not pile them up meaning you would clear them out!

But see the Goodness of God, bearing the stench for He that is Pure (Holy) bearing such a stench, ha! Waiting to see if any dustbin material shall be saved and cleaned up before Throwing out any that remains at the Day set for that Purpose! He is truly Long Suffering and Merciful and Good!

There is no goodness when other people are crying and dying from the stench.

truespeak:


I have answered you and you are only repeating yourself!

Taking responsibility for your dirt and choosing to clean up is in your hand exactly like the prodigal son but you also have the option of lamenting about the dirt and blaming your father but I know you already know which is much more profitable and redeeming!

It is your choice and no one not even your father can make it for you!

I agree but, a father that would let his son litter his entire household, and not take any physical action is either incompetent or he does not care himself. Granted you believe god gave man free-will, and it is our choice, but looking at how the world is, it's either due to incompetence ( he is not all powerful) or he does not care (he is not loving) for it to be this way. If you believe in a god that is all powerful and all loving then it we should not have the problem of evil as we do today, (whether or not he gives us free will).

truespeak:

It is not true that He is doing nothing about it, the suffering and pain going on is rather because he wants man to desist from evil and love good for He has said He would heal and bless your land if you turn from doing evil but if you continue in evil, curses and suffering would abound!

The people who do evil scot-free, and those who are not guilty are the ones who are suffering, look around you don't be naive. There are is also tradegy and suffering that is not caused by any particular individual such as natural disasters, and sometimes diseases. Why would a good god let innocent suffer and die from this?

truespeak:

Exactly as a father who loves his children must resort to punishment if they would not listen to him and is it not seen that the punishment stops once he begins to listen his father?
So it is, if only man Will return and hate evil then evil shall be far from him but if he would not then that which he loves shall live in his dwelling place!

You believe in a dwelling place where the goodwill meet him eventually, but it still doesn't mean that they should be treated with pain and suffering while they are here on earth.

truespeak:

As it is seen in this world rubbish is a part of life and nothing wrong with it on its own, the rubbish in your bin in your house is not a problem to you and you cannot be bothered about it!

There is something wrong with it, a perfect and loving god wouldn't create a world that would end up with so much pain and suffering. Even if I have rubbish, I don't let them pile up and stink up the entire room a clean person wouldn't allow that.

truespeak:

Now, your children always have a choice to be that which any father would be proud of or to be a rubbish fit for the dustbin and they make that choice by themselves unfettered!
if your children choose to make themselves into rubbish and to which, we know all rubbish end in the bin, that is solely their choosing, not your fault, and it would be wrong to blame you!

If I know they will do evil beforehand, and I can do something about it, but rather do nothing, then I am not a perfect and loving father.

truespeak:

But it is typical man rather than taking responsibility for his choices he chooses to blame others as if that would prevent your liability on the day of burning!

If I see evil and do nothing about it then I am also at fault, even though I am not the one that committed the act. There is a lot of evil, pain and suffering happening every single day. A perfect and loving god would not be silent about it.

truespeak:


Simple, like a dustbin is a necessity in every house for the dumping of rubbish so is evil in the house of God which we call God!

It is you who chose to take up the dustbin and make yourself a dustbin, sorry, your fault not God's!

Nothing imperfect about it, for evil(dustbin) is doing its job which is to take up all that are to be dustbinned which shall ultimately be emptied in the fire as the contents of all dustbins are so emptied and burned!
Thus good and perfect!

If god is omniscient he knows that his creations will be imperfect, and by creating them he is responsible for creating the 'rubbish' that you are talking about. If I create a product that you know will spoil within a few months, who's fault is it when it spoils? The or the person that created the product?

truespeak:


Simple, like a dustbin is a necessity in every house for the dumping of rubbish so is evil in the house of God which we call God!

It is you who chose to take up the dustbin and make yourself a dustbin, sorry, your fault not God's!

Nothing imperfect about it, for evil(dustbin) is doing its job which is to take up all that are to be dustbinned which shall ultimately be emptied in the fire as the contents of all dustbins are so emptied and burned!
Thus good and perfect!

If god is omniscient he knows that his creations will be imperfect, and by creating them he is responsible for creating the 'rubbish' that you are talking about. If I create a product that will spoil within a few months, who's fault is it. The product or the person that created the product?

officialmario:
Good morning to all nairalanders, i want to whole house to enlighten me on this issue that keeps bothering my mind, i have studied the scripture. and i want to know if we should believe everything in the bible?

To believe 100% in anything/anyone is the first step to abandoning your ability to think and reason for yourself.

"To know who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize." ~ Voltaire

The bible is not perfect, and anyone who 'dares' to critically examine it with a free mind would easily see that for themselves.

Righteousness2:
Yes! Absolutely and Confidently!
Having an Understanding of the Scriptures is also very Important

Do you believe human slavery and genocide are right? If no, then you don't absolutely believe in everything the bible commanded.

proxitaly:
We all know the story of the first miracle Jesus did which was at a wedding party in Cana. He turned water into wine. Now, some christians say that taking alcoholic drinks is a sure way to hell fire. Based on this age (John 2:1-12) what do you think? Was the wine alcoholic or non alcoholic?
If yes, why would the Master himself turn water into alcoholic drink when he knows that drinking alcohol is a sin?

Using the above age let's hear your point of view

No evidence of any such miracle exist.

Either way if god created alcohol as a natural substance produced organically, and it is beneficial to the human body, why would it be a sin to ingest it

Heathen777:

Supposedly god can do no evil, yet why does evil exist? If you think about it, religion claim a perfect god exists, so why would a perfect god create something that became imperfect?

Depends on which god you are talking about. Every religion has its made-up laws on what god permits and forbids.

This is the first image NASA's Perseverance rover sent back after touching down on Mars.

https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-56119931

Nasa's Perseverance rover lands on Mars
By Jonathan Amos
BBC Science Correspondent

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media caption"Touchdown confirmed": Watch the moment the Nasa Perseverance rover landed on Mars
There's a new robot on the surface of Mars.

The American space agency has successfully landed its Perseverance rover in a deep crater near the planet's equator called Jezero.

Engineers at Nasa's mission control in California erupted with joy when confirmation of touchdown came through.

The six-wheeled vehicle will now spend at least the next two years drilling into the local rocks, looking for evidence of past life.

Jezero is thought to have held a giant lake billions of years ago. And where there's been water, there's the possibility there might also have been life.


The signal alerting controllers that Perseverance was down and safe arrived at 20:55 GMT. In the past they might have hugged and high-fived but strict coronavirus protocols meant they had all been separated by perspex screens. A respectful fist bump was about all they could manage.

Nonetheless, the excitement was evident. And the applause continued when the first two images came in. They were taken by low-resolution engineering cameras with dust covering still-attached translucent lens covers, but it was possible to see a flat surface both in front and behind the rover.

Steve Jurczyk, the acting at Nasa, saluted the achievement: "What a credit to the team. Just what an amazing team to work through all the adversity and all the challenges that go with landing a rover on Mars, plus the challenges of Covid. Just an amazing accomplishment."

Mike Watkins, the director of Nasa's Jet Propulsion Laboratory, the home of the agency's Mars missions, said such successes would pave the way for eventual human missions to the Red Planet.

"We're not ready to go there with astronauts yet, but the robots are ready," he stated.

"It is just fantastic to be able to do that and to learn from each rover, learn from the science and the engineering and to make the next one better. Every time we do one of these missions, we make fabulous discoveries and each one is more exciting than the last."


Landing on Mars is never easy, and even though Nasa has become expert at it, everyone on the Perseverance team had spoken with great caution going into Thursday.

This is the second one-tonne rover put on Mars by the US space agency.

The first, Curiosity, was landed in a different crater in 2012. It trialled innovative descent technologies, including a rocket-powered cradle, that Perseverance has also now put to good effect.

Controllers will spend the coming weeks commissioning the new rover, checking that none of its systems were damaged in what would have been a rough ride to the ground.

A rocket-powered cradle was used to place the rover on the surface
Many pictures will be sent back to get a sense of the surroundings.

The targeted landing zone was just in front of what looks from satellite pictures to be the remains of a vast delta - a feature built by rivers as they push into a wider body of water and dump their sediment.

Scientists hope that incorporated into this material are tell-tale signatures of past biology.

Perseverance will sample the base of the delta and then move towards the rim of the crater. It's there that satellites have detected carbonate rocks, which on Earth are particularly good at trapping biological activity.

Perseverance has a suite of instruments that researchers back on Earth will use to examine all these formations in detail, down to the microscopic level.


Why is Jezero Crater so interesting?
Forty-five-km-wide Jezero is named after a town in Bosnia-Herzegovina. In some Slavic languages the word "jezero" also means "lake" - which should explain the fascination.

Jezero displays multiple rock types, including clays and carbonates, that have the potential to preserve the type of organic molecules that would hint at life's bygone existence.

Particularly enticing is the "bathtub ring" of sediments laid down at the ancient lake's shoreline. It's here that Perseverance could find what on Earth are called stromatolites.

"In some lakes you can get microbial mats and carbonates interacting to form these big structures, these large layered mounds," explained science team-member Dr Briony Horgan from Purdue University in West Lafayette, Indiana.

"If we see anything like that kind of structure in Jezero, we'll be making a beeline straight for it because that could be the holy grail of Mars astrobiology," she told BBC News.


The most interesting finds will be packaged into small tubes to be left on the surface.

Nasa and the European Space Agency (Esa) have devised a multi-billion-dollar plan to go fetch these cylinders towards the end of the decade.

It will be a complex endeavour involving a second rover, a Mars rocket and a huge satellite to ship the Jezero materials home.

Retuning samples is the logical - and necessary - next step in Mars exploration.

Even if Perseverance discovers something that looks like a bio-signature, the evidence is almost certain to be contested - as claims for ancient life's traces here on Earth usually are.

Bringing rocks back for further, more sophisticated analysis is therefore likely the only way any arguments about past biology on the Red Planet will be settled.

Litmus:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4dRlxNRWziM

Will it land or will it RUD?

Litmus:
Rolls-Royce to build mini nuclear reactors in the U.K



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8KXTNnK0DUU

There are more cost-effective solutions like wind, geothermal and solar....

Ephesians 6:5
Slaves, obey your earthly masters with fear and trembling, with a sincere heart, as you would Christ.

Colossians 4:1 ESV
Masters, treat your slaves justly and fairly, knowing that you also have a Master in heaven

(Exodus 21:7-11 NLT)
When a man sells his daughter as a slave, she will not be freed at the end of six years as the men are. If she does not please the man who bought her, he may allow her to be bought back again. But he is not allowed to sell her to foreigners, since he is the one who broke the contract with her. And if the slave girl’s owner arranges for her to marry his son, he may no longer treat her as a slave girl, but he must treat her as his daughter. If he himself marries her and then takes another wife, he may not reduce her food or clothing or fail to sleep with her as his wife. If he fails in any of these three ways, she may leave as a free woman without making any payment.

Exodus 21:2-6 (NASB):
2) If you buy a Hebrew slave, he shall serve for six years; but on the seventh he shall go out as a free man without payment.
3) If he comes alone, he shall go out alone; if he is the husband of a wife, then his wife shall go out with him.
4) If his master gives him a wife, and she bears him sons or daughters, the wife and her children shall belong to her master, and he shall go out alone. 5) But if the slave plainly says, 'I love my master, my wife and my children; I will not go out as a free man,' 6then his master shall bring him to God, then he shall bring him to the door or the doorpost. And his master shall pierce his ear with an awl; and he shall serve him permanently.

Exodus 21:20-21 (NASB):
20) If a man strikes his male or female slave with a rod and he dies at his hand, he shall be punished.
21) If, however, he survives a day or two, no vengeance shall be taken; for he is his property

Leviticus 25:44-46 (NLT)
However, you may purchase male or female slaves from among the foreigners who live among you. You may also purchase the children of such resident foreigners, including those who have been born in your land. You may treat them as your property, ing them on to your children as a permanent inheritance. You may treat your slaves like this, but the people of Israel, your relatives, must never be treated this way.


These are just a few of the bible verses ing slavery. The bible is claimed to be inerrant and a source of our morality, yet it fails in the most basic matter of morality by permitting human slavery rather than condemning it. Most apologetics try to defend this by claiming it is referring only to 'indentured servitude' but a closer read shows that 'indentured servitude' only applied to the Hebrews not to foreigners. Ironically, these were the same people that experienced slavery in Egypt and they decided to continue the practice.

Even back in ancient times, not every culture/religion permitted, slavery. In fact, the idea of slavery was frowned upon by the Zoroastrian religion which existed around the same time as the Abrahamic religion. Zoroastrianism was against slavery and ed freedom of religion. And when Cyrus the great (a Zoroastrian) conquered Babylon in 539BC (this was mentioned in the bible) one of the first things he did was outlaw slavery across his empire and allow people to worship whatever god they please .... (More about that in a later post).

The bible is not as perfect as most Christians claim it to be.