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MightySparrow:


I understand you perfectly and agree to that. The OP has been hearing that but shut his mind. Do I offered him death for him to choose Jesus or death. Anyway, which heaven is he even talking about?

😂😂😂 Perhaps Valhalla! 😁

So it’s true that it doesn’t matter who composes the music or who sings it, as long as the music is a hit! Too bad someone else composed the music—twice! 😁 Yet he still serenaded with it! 🤕

MightySparrow:

What?

Without delving into theology, many people believe that Jesus is the 'gate' to heaven, and that doesn’t diminish the fact that 'death' is part of the process. Hence, my allusion to express it as 'not necessarily.' Regardless, your message is both thoughtful and cheeky! 😂

Inshame3:
An animal

Then am afraid he didn't appear to you in his true form! His apparition borderline centers around ing allegorical meanings to you😁

jaephoenix:

Please which evidence does your Bible offer? Just one?
are there any video evidence of your Bible?

I’m not here to debate about biblical evidence—though we have plenty of historical evidence that corroborates biblical timelines, I won’t stoop so low as to assist your deviation! Stick to the original issue 🤨. By the way, we are using your standard 👀, and based on that standard, your belief in macroevolution 🤔 fails miserably!

jaephoenix:

Okay let's assume from your post here(which was deduced from Google) is true. Does blurry vision equate to being born with normal sight?
Their vision is 20/200 to 20/400, which is considered legally blind. Normal human vision is 20/20. So how can you compare 20/20 to 20/200 or 20/400. Which kain ignoramus am I even debating with?

Even this is foolishness, you made a claim they were born blind! Babies are never born blind! To even add insult to injury, you asserted all babies were born with cortical blindness; which is definitely not true! I had to force your hand to it that they had blurry vision 🤔 not that they were born blind! —A true physician should know the difference! Although the term 'legally blind' applies to them yet I don't think I should explain the difference between 'legally blind' and 'blind'! Even an educated child knows the difference let alone a self-professed physician!

You goofed big time!

jaephoenix:

You started with confusion yourself. You said you don't believe macro evolution but you believe Bible stories. That prompted my question. Can you see you're now the confused one

No, not really. We are using your standard of empirical proof! So far you don't have video or audio evidence 🤔.

Hence the reason why I am reflecting your argument against you! I didn't constrain my self to empiricism! My bible offers evidence and conviction! SCIENTIFIC dogmas offers solely materialism and empiricity!—which doesn't help you in this present case as you don't have direct audio or video evidence 😂!

jaephoenix:

That's my problem with you. I'm a physician and telling you stuff and you argue blindly. Please do your research and lets have it

A simple query says otherwise 😂.
Indeed you are a physician! Babies are not born blind! They can see, maybe perhaps you meant to say they have blurry vision🤔, apart from this you are outrightly wrong! —which doesn't look good for your self-professed profession!

achorladey:


Out of all the 8 the most dangerous of them all is number 3. If anybody sees that you are beginning to investigate them or doubt their belief and the elders called you for questioning, the most important question out of the eight is number 3. It will be put to you, do you accept........



A No answer here, kiss yourself goodbye and taking on the label APOSTATE. Nothing can save you from here.


You can see it was stated all of Jesus property on earth belongs only to the Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses. So whatever others are doing as long as they don't bow to the Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses that thing is not Jesus property therefore useless and fit for destruction.

No wonder it's termed a cult 🤔. Things are really happening!

achorladey:
Why do Jehovah’s Witnesses say they are God’s organization so matter of fact as though such an audacious claim is an undisputable fact?

Here is how one person sees this claim.

"The entire Jehovah’s Witness religion is founded on unsubstantiated hubristic claims which are continually repeated until they are assumed by adherents to be a proven fact.

Never is this more evident than when the beliefs of a Jehovah’s Witness are successfully challenged. The more compelling the evidence against them, the more they resort to repeating their convictions with a sense of insistence, as if they are chanting a mantra.

Confirmation bias is prevalent in all religious ideologies, but particularly with Jehovah’s Witnesses. The reason for this is that their evangelical work puts them in with many rival belief systems.

In order to overcome challenges to their beliefs and to prevent any doubts creeping in, Jehovah’s Witnesses have to retreat to their echo chamber to bolster their faith.

By repeatedly discussing their beliefs with fellow believers, they convince themselves that what they teach is the only ‘truth’. As well as ing their own need for certainty, they in turn are helping to reinforce the delusions of other .

There is a very interesting logical fallacy which highlights this method of confirmation which Jehovah’s Witnesses use, called ‘proof by repeated assertion’.

Here is a brief description:-

“Proof by repeated assertion is an informal fallacy in which a proposition is repeatedly restated regardless of contradiction and refutation. The proposition can sometimes be repeated until any challenges or opposition ceases, letting the proponent assert it as fact, and solely due to a lack of challengers. In other cases, it’s repetition may be cited as evidence of its truth, in a variant of the appeal to authority fallacy.

…In its extreme form, it can also be a form of brainwashing.”

At their meetings, Jehovah’s Witnesses are trained by role playing, acting out the arguments they regularly encounter in their ministry. However, they only ever consider the scenarios which present the softest resistance to their beliefs.

By constantly ‘overcoming’ the more easy arguments during practice sessions, Jehovah’s Witnesses are lulled into a false sense of security, believing that they have watertight answers to all the questions and objections they can expect to encounter in their ministry.

However, in real life JWs are occasionally confronted with much more profound and difficult challenges to their faith which they have not previously encountered. They invariably refrain from directly arguing or debating on these topics, but instead use deflection tactics such as referring the questioner to their website, and then they quickly retreat.

Later, when no longer under direct pressure, JWs are likely to replay the difficult challenge over in their mind. If there are no set answers in the Watchtower literature, they are compelled to fabricate a refutation themselves, perhaps by looking for relevant bible verses. The motive for this is often more to reassure themselves than to answer the challenger.

But many times there is no valid refutation. A frequent recourse if they can't find a gratifying way to refute the objection to their religion, is to vilify the character of the challenger, as a means to negate the challenge.

They are then compelled to use flawed logic to find a ‘solution’ to the challenge. Once they have an idea, they cling to it and repeat it, however false or illogical it is, until it becomes an ‘established’ counter argument (at least in their minds).

A classic, often repeated example is as follows. After pointing out a flaw in the Organisation they will reply by saying:-

“Show me an alternative religion that has more truth than ours”.

If their adversary fails or declines to suggest an appropriate alternative religion, the JW erroneously concludes that this is decisive evidence that theirs is the true religion by default.

Many people who have had encounters with Jehovah’s Witnesses will recognise this trait. Very often, when Jehovah’s Witness are confronted with contrary evidence, they simply repeat an invalid point over and over, even though they have been presented with well-founded objections or incontrovertible evidence.

After several such encounters, Jehovah’s Witnesses begin to have misplaced confidence in their false reasoning, which leads them to the absurd conclusion that their religion is the only one God is backing.

The Watchtower literature is also a factor which builds confidence in JWs that their religion is God’s organisation. The articles repeatedly make the hubristic claim that they are God’s ‘channel’, that God is using the ‘Faithful Slave’ to convey his message, etc.

Despite the lack of sufficient evidence, the constant repetition of these claims forms a confirmation bias in the minds of the followers, and these invalid assumptions become an established fact.

One only has to read the posts of many JWs on Quora to see this process in motion. There are countless answers from JW apologists in which they claim to be God’s people.

Remaining in an environment where this predominant attitude is constantly played out, has convinced millions of followers that their religion is God’s organisation, even though they lack sufficient evidence to back up this baseless claim."


cc Sand2022, Gabrielshow24

You have summed it up elegantly😊!

achorladey:
This is what determines your being one of Jehovah’s witness

Approved association with Jehovah’s Witnesses requires accepting the entire range of the true teachings of the Bible, including those Scriptural beliefs that are unique to Jehovah’s Witnesses. What do such beliefs include?




1. That the great issue before humankind is the rightfulness of Jehovah’s sovereignty, which is why he has allowed wickedness so long. (Ezekiel 25:17)*

2. That Jesus Christ had a prehuman existence and is subordinate to his heavenly Father. (John 14:28)

3. That there is a “faithful and discreet slave” upon earth today ‘entrusted with all of Jesus’ earthly interests,’ which slave is associated with the Governing Body of Jehovah’s Witnesses. (Matthew 24:45-47)

4. That 1914 marked the end of the Gentile Times and the establishment of the Kingdom of God in the heavens, as well as the time for Christ’s foretold presence. (Luke 21:7-24; Revelation 11:15–12:10)

5. That only 144,000 Christians will receive the heavenly reward. (Revelation 14:1, 3)

6. That Armageddon, referring to the battle of the great day of God the Almighty, is near. (Revelation 16:14, 16; 19:11-21)

7. That it will be followed by Christ’s Millennial Reign, which will restore an earth-wide paradise.

8. That the first to enjoy it will be the present “great crowd” of Jesus’ “other sheep.”​—John 10:16; Revelation 7:9-17; 21:3, 4.

@ Gabrielshow24 tell me how Sand2022 will survive this? You will see all Sand2022 thread are basically exposing all those eight beliefs they say is unique to Jehovah’s witnesses

🤔My God, how do they make these up? 🤕 It's really laughable.

jaephoenix:

What implications? Ogbeni answer question nah

Watch your tone, young man! It seems you are unwittingly unaware of the contradictions in your stance. Allow me to break it down for you:
1. You asked a question about my God.
2. You itted that you don’t have direct video or audio evidence for your "stance".
3. Using this, you questioned why I believe in my God without video or audio evidence.

Do you see how you’ve already answered your own question? 🤨 If you can’t see it, then I’m afraid I can’t help you!

jaephoenix:

Dude I don't need to quote any source. Babies are born cortically blind. What it means is that even though their optic nerves are picking up images, its not being integrated in the cerebral cortex or occipital lobe to be specific. we see with our brain and not eyes. That's why you see some blind folks whose eyes are wide open but are blind (though in some cases like that, it may not be cortical blindness but optic tract pathology)

this is misinformation! This is also false!

MaxInDHouse:

Na this stupid argument you fit do.

Mention the name of your god, where you dey worship and what group name can people call your fellow worshipers?

Simple!

This is a foolish argument! Ever since I’ve known you, whenever you’re challenged logically, you resort to "church affiliations" as if they’re some nugget of gold! 🤨 Unfortunately, they’re not gold; they’re more like corroded iron!

I’m far more concerned with the word of the Bible, Christ, and what He stands for than to stoop so low as to engage in "church wars" with you. Get your arguments together, make them coherent, and stop with this sheepish narrative—it’s become stale at this point! 😂

MaxInDHouse:


I no sey mek u com worship with us but mention the name of your god and it's place of worship.
Simple!

It's your god that's a jelly bean 👀; mine is a transcendental being! Who is truly serving a god here? Is it not your god that will be rolled away with the universe? 🤨

jaephoenix:

No its not. Please can you answer the question. Thank you

Think again 🤔; you clearly don’t realize how self-defeating your implication is.

MaxInDHouse:



I'm Maximus one of Jehovah's Witnesses worshipers of Jehovah we assemble at any Kingdom Hall throughout the world.

Oya it's your turn if you're not a pagan!

This is the result of a foolish mind—one that believes if you don’t partake in their beloved organization, you must be a pagan. This mindset is foolish because it fails to address the weightier matters of Christendom and instead fixates on trivialities!

This pathetic mind, devoid of wisdom, doesn’t seek the truth of the kingdom but focuses solely on peddling false doctrines, demanding others to justify their church affiliations as if it were a badge of honor.

A vain mind like this could never have been appointed as a renowned Roman general; those who gave you such a name were merely trying to undermine the great general. At this point, both you and your organization are nothing more than rip-offs! 😂

dominique:


They're one goal up. They can still pull a PSG and level things up

👀Keep dreaming!

BABANGBALI:
Chei! I will never be poor in my life






Once you put it inside and you hear "ouch!" just buy the shoe na your size fa 🤷🤷
You no know wetin God do for you ohh 🤷🤷😂😂🤣

👀

MaxInDHouse:

I no dey follow pagan dey yarn abeg go and continue arguing with your fellow pagans!

It's common knowledge that you are the pagan here! —With your vain doctrines 😂, hypocrisy and incoherency! Verily, I say unto you, Satan your Father will be proud! 🙃

MaxInDHouse:


From 9am to 12pm on Sunday no single church in Christendom is idle meaning you no dey go any church!

🤔you just like to type rubbish! All your allusions are impervious to logic🤨. The questions I gave you were meant to put your brain cells to work—well, 🤧I guess you don't have any after all!

What kind of a grown up says this kind of rubbish? 🤨Even basic facts you can't get right!
Very pathetic!

jaephoenix:

1. We can see the output on the navigator screen. That's how we know there's a software in the navigator
2. There is a respiratory center in the brain that drives respiration. It is not controlled by the baby consciously. It works independent of the baby's state, whether awake or sleeping. Works the same way on adults too. This respiratory center is immature in babies thus their respiration is start and stop, not smooth like ours.
Babies are born blind. They don't even know what you're putting in their mouth. Put a finger there, and they suck it. They have a suck reflex, which again is outside their voluntary control. They only actions babies control is crying. Even pooping is reflex.
They have pain receptors and other receptors which are follow come and integrated in the brain.
They imitate others cos its automatic. If wolves raise a baby, it grows up behaving like them. Same if they are raised with folks that talk and move a certain way. All these are automatic cos their brain brain grows at a rapid rate. There's a 'hole' in the front of their skull which is there and gradually fills up with brain tissue as they grow.
As you can see, there's explanations for all these phenomena. No evidence of the soul

Where do you get your Scientific data from? 🤨 This is false!

jaephoenix:

I asked you the question first. So reply me

It seems you’re oblivious to how self-refuting that quote was—hence why I flipped the question back to you!

MaxInDHouse:


Your friend don teach you how to lie shey?
Ọmọ from 9am to 12pm no church of Christendom that's not engage you're a pagan hiding among them to criticize God's people, you no dey go any church!

So far, you are just making claims without substance! It just shows desperation🤨. Is this your last resort?

MaxInDHouse:


Your friend don teach you how to lie shey?
Ọmọ from 9am to 12pm no church of Christendom that's not engage you're a pagan hiding among them to criticize God's people, you no dey go any church!

Pathetic ad hominem! 😂 In fact, you clearly have nothing substantial to say! It’s common knowledge that many churches offer different service times. On top of that, it’s entirely plausible for someone to stay online! 🤔 This is all very self-explanatory. 🤨

And by the way, you exaggerated the time—I checked intermittently! So maybe it’s time to rethink your arguments!

MaxInDHouse:


LIAR!
You no dey go church nah to argue you dey.
On Sunday wey be Palm Sunday you dey Nairaland dey type from 9am to 12pm and to worsen your matter you never drop one single thread at least to preach what you believe for everyone to know where you belong.

Ọmọ you be atheist!

Prove how I’m a liar—if anything, it just highlights your ignorance!

Aren’t there churches with different service times? And what about the possibility of taking a breather to check in on Nairaland? Do you even know the capacity in which I serve at my church?

Why make baseless assumptions? You can’t attack my character! I refuse to stoop so low as to engage with your foolishness.

Milanodigishop:
Feel free to comment below, If you have an idea.

Milano.motivationalTv (check my on TikTok)

I believe they return to 'nothing'—their creator. 🙃

MaxInDHouse:
This one don come dey quote everyone dey yarn whether you follow am tok or not:

Max is jealous! 😏It’s like you’re the unofficial spokesperson for the peanut gallery! Keep it up; maybe one day you’ll get a medal for participation in the art of unsolicited commentary! 😂

MaxInDHouse:

Yet you were active from 9am to 12pm on a Sunday that's supposed to be Palm Sunday shey?

Why not use the remaining braincell you have to recognize how flawed your thinking is? 🤔 It’s truly pathetic that some men still reason like cavemen! 🤦🏾‍♂️

achorladey:


When I told him that his madness and insanities peddling restrict worship to where, his brains shut down. Their religious publications will state nowhere is it stated that they must go to a temple to worship God you see this one called MaxInDHouse come to Nairaland that others on Sunday don't worship God they post comment on Nairaland

🤔 Why is he now contradicting his own GB's publications? How hypocritical!

He knows the Truth 👀, yet it doesn’t seem to set him free! And when we compare him to the Pharisees, he takes it as an insult—little does he realize, it’s actually a compliment to his nature! 😁

jaephoenix:

I have. That's why I'm throwing it at you

Then what conclusion did you arrive at, given your unprecedented allusion?