NewStats: 3,265,013 , 8,185,334 topics. Date: Friday, 13 June 2025 at 07:18 AM 4n1421

Mustiboy:
I was born a Muslim. I went to an Islamic school, graduated and even furthered my studies in the Islamic line. I was a devoted Muslim.
But truth be told, Islam, I must say, is full of shit. Yes! I said it. In Islam, it's Haram to touch the hair of people with this dreadlock like hair usually called DADA among the natives. Still, the Allah they believe created this DADA .
How can you tell me not to eat a snake, a cat or whatever?
When I was a Muslim, I did good because of a reward, I believe every Muslim does good because of a reward. Now that I've given up religion, I do good for the sake of good, not expecting anything from Some Allah at the other end.
There are too many rules in Islam and too much laws to abide to. If ChristIans and Muslims are going to end up in the same heaven, then I think it's totally unfair. As a Muslim, you have to do lots of things to get there, but as a Christian, all you have to do is believe in Jesus and live a good life.
Islam, I repeat, is full of shit! Can't believe I wasted 16 years of my life being a Muslim, the thought of that hurts and aggravates me

Atheist pple are here again, its easy to spot them, they always start the story, claiming to be in ur religion and was even the best in the religion and got to the post of Imam.
Nice story brother but we don't believe you.

Victorclean1:
Islam is really something very devastating to humanity. Who can explain Sura9vs30 for me

When the makkans had a meeting with Satan in their mist and plot to kill prophet Muhammad (SAW) and Allah sent angel Jibril (Gabriel) to tell him nt to sleep at home, to leave the house and migrate from makka to Medina.

What dnt u understand in dis verse

AhluSunnah:
Be careful n0t to call what is haram halal nor what is halal haram becauSE you are making tashreey in the deen and its kufru..... u have bring delil for the case of cat and dog.. but u havent and didnt bring proof for that of snake.. whatever u do n0t have pr0of for.. just bone the matter.. nice writeup though. .

Why didn't u add proof to ur own tashreey so ppl will knw.
why are u always so quick to call someone kafir, when u can simply ask for the proof. do u just like showing urself or u r just a dickhead.its pple like u dat hav little or no knowledge at all.

God said it thousands of years ago, but scientists said its baberic and should be stop. Now they are discovering it. It's okay

Very soon they will start discovering everything the Holy books have said.

Command day Ojo barrack this is were I served, those soldiers no get joy, but our set stubborn dem no born dem well make dem try us dat yr

Tlake:
mr emeka

How's your battalion, you v not been sharing any with us if late

you talked about seeing some things during Ramadan but didnt share

lets got back to those and leave seeing God matter alone

pls brothers kindly share with us your mystic experiences pre and post ramadan
thanks. ...

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So they crossed the sea, reached the shore and walked on. After some time they saw children playing, and then Khidr (pbuh) suddenly killed one of the boys. Here, of course, Musa (pbuh) again became indignant at killing an innocent child, and Khidr reminded him of his promise, “ I knew you will not withstand .” Musa (pbuh) immediately apologized again. After a while they came to the village, where no one sheltered them. They were very hungry, and nobody wanted to host them. Meanwhile Khidr (pbuh) discovered a broken fence. He found rocks and clay, and completely repaired it. Then Musa (pbuh) broke his promise again and said that since no one sheltered and fed them, they could have asked money for the job to get some food. Then Khidr (PBUH) said, “Now it is time for us to part. You have broken the covenant three times .”
But before leaving, Khidr (pbuh) said, “Musa, when I damaged the ship, you were afraid that people would drown. But you forgot how your mother had put you, then an infant, into the basket and set it sail down the river and how you were protected by the Almighty. You also judged me for killing a child, but you forgot how you accidentally had killed an Egyptian in your youth. You disapproved that I had restored the wall for free. Yet you forgot how you had met the daughters of the Prophet Shu`ayb ( pbuh ) at the well with a herd of sheep and pushed away the heavy lid of the well to give them water. And all this was done for free, for the sake of Allah .”
When Musa (pbuh) saw, that Khidr (pbuh) knows all the events of his life, he was astonished even more. Afterwards, Musa (pbuh) and Khidr (pbuh) parted. This is a fact Allah Himself tells us in the Qur’an.
So why did the Almighty give us this story? He never gives us anything useless. This story has a deep educational meaning. Musa (pbuh) is one of the greatest prophets, called Ulul Azmi . Musa (pbuh) stands much higher, than prophet Khidr (pbuh). But Khidr (pbuh) turned out to know more. Musa (pbuh) even asked Allah’s permission to become a student of Khidr. Look how this great prophet seeks knowledge and how modest he is.

Then both prophets set out. After a while they approached an old cemetery. They found skulls in the ground. Khidr (pbuh) counted seven skulls and said they had been seven brothers, calling each by name. It seems afterwards Khidr (pbuh) made a du`a to convince Musa that everything he saw was true. Then the skulls started talking to them. They began to speak about their past lives. Musa (pbuh) was surprised by what he saw. No wonder! He did not have this knowledge.
Then they went on and reached a port. There they began to search for a ship to continue their journey by sea. Signalizing from the shore, they asked the owner of one vessel to take them aboard his ship. He did, and probably for free. So it is said. And when they swam to the middle of the sea, Khidr (pbuh) took a tool and made a hole in the deck and the bottom of the ship.
I must say that before this Musa (pbuh) asked Khidr (pbuh) to teach him the amazing knowledge he had. But Khidr (pbuh) replied, “How can I you teach you that? I do not think you can manage it .” “Yes, I can ,” Musa (pbuh) insisted. Then Khidr (pbuh) set a condition: “No matter what I do, you must keep silent.” “All right, I will ,” Musa (pbuh) agreed. This was an agreement between them. But when Khidr (pbuh) made a hole in the ship in the sea, Musa (pbuh) exclaimed, “What are you doing, this is against the Shariah! ” Moreover, the owners of ship turned out to be orphans, seven brothers, who chipped in to buy a completely new ship to work together. “This ship belongs to the orphans. Moreover, they have taken us on board for free, and you paid back evil for good ,” said Musa (pbuh) in disapproval. Khidr (pbuh) said, “I warned you, you cannot keep silent.” Then Musa (pbuh) apologized and promised to be silent from that time on. Meanwhile nothing happened to the ship. Khidr (pbuh) stuffed the hole with something, a clothing, or fabric. In general, everything turned out fine. After he damaged the bottom of the vessel, they were approached by another ship owned by the ruler of the lands. The ruler’s officials stopped their ship, searched and checked it. They would have seized the ship, if not for the hole in the bottom. They returned to their ship and sailed away. It turned out that the ruler issued a decree to take away all new ships from the citizens. Anticipating this, Khidr (pbuh) made the hole, but Musa (pbuh), of course, could not have known about it.

After a long walk along the shore, exhausted, they sat down to rest, and then Musa (pbuh) said, “The road was long. We are tired. It would be good to eat the fish, we have got .” Then Yusha` told him what had happened to the fish at the spring. “It was the place we are looking for ”, said Musa. “ We should not have left, now we have to go back.” After they came back to the place, prophet Musa (pbuh) examined where fish could escape and found a sea island, where Khidr (pbuh) lived. So they found him. Then prophet Musa (pbuh) ordered Yusha to go back home, because he had left only his brother, Harun, (pbuh) with his people. “Help Harun until I get back,” said prophet Musa (pbuh). They parted, and Musa (pbuh) went to Khidr (pbuh). Khidr was praying at that time. After the salah , Khidr (pbuh) greeted the guest with the words, “Assalamu `Alaikum, o Musa, the son of Imran .” Musa (pbuh) answered the greeting and asked, “How do you know my name? “ The One Who sent you to me told me ,” said Khidr (pbuh). Thus the two prophets met. They struck up a conversation.
At this time a bird flew nearby, made a circle in the air, sat on the beach, dipped a few times its beak into the water and flew away. It disappeared, then flew back and began to tweet something. Khidr (pbuh) asked Musa (pbuh), “Do you know what the bird says? ” “No, I do not, ” said Musa (pbuh). “It says you have no more knowledge, than the water I carry in my beak .”
Musa (pbuh) was very surprised at the deep knowledge of Khidr (pbuh), because this area was unknown to him.

When Musa (pbuh) was preaching before the Israelis, he was asked, “Who is the greatest scientist of our time? ” Musa (pbuh) said, “I am. ” Allah likes it when people are modest. He did not like Musa’s (pbuh) words and said to him, “O Musa, there is a man who knows what you do not. I imparted him knowledge straight from myself. Go and look at him .” Prophet Musa (pbuh) asked the Almighty if he could learn from this person the wonderful knowledge that He had given him. Allah showed him the path to prophet Khidr (pbuh) and Prophet Musa (pbuh) set out on the search of Khidr (pbuh), with prophet Yusha as his companion, who was a young man then.
Allah told them beforehand that a spring from the rocks will signalize, that Khidr (pbuh) lives nearby. Once they came to a spring and sat down to rest. It was actually the `Aynul-Hayat spring (living water). The travelers had a fish to eat with them. The fish suddenly came to life near the living water and escaped into the water. Prophet Musa (PBUH) was sleeping. When he woke up, the travelers moved on, but Yusha` said nothing to Musa (pbuh) about the fish.

By shaykh sayid Afandi al-Chirkawi

Prophet Musa (pbuh) is spiritually much higher than prophet Khidr (pbuh). He was given a great mission. He is one of the Ulul Azmi . Khidr (pbuh) had a lower level. What is then the meaning and the use of Qur’anic ayahs about the meeting of Musa and Khidr (pbuh)? Had this story been told by an alim, it could have been called doubtful, unproven. Even if it had been in the hadith of the Prophet(pbuh), skeptics might argue that it is made up, unreliable or weak. But in our case the story of Musa and Khidr (pbuh) is told by the Almighty Allah in the Holy Qur’an. Therefore its authenticity is beyond doubt. This story points to the existence of hidden knowledge ( `ilm batin ), which is the basis of Tariqa .
Imagine if now I start to fly in front of you, how I will grow in your eyes. But what use is my flying for you and myself? Neither the Qur’an nor a hadith says that a man becomes greater and more spirituality advanced if he flies like a bird, or floats like a fish. The story, we are speaking about, states just the opposite. Common people usually ire kashf (supernatural powers). But we assert, that kashf has no value. There are some shaykhs and awliya, who have kashf and there are those who do not. Kashf has no value before Allah. The most solid proof is the story of Musa and Khidr (pbuh).

“If your spiritual unveilings contradicts the Book and the Sunna, act upon the book and the sunna and leave off your unveiling and say to yourself, ‘Allah guaranteed infallibility in the Book and the Sunna and has not guaranteed that in spiritual unveiling and inspiration.’”

"Between God (mighty and sublime) and creation are 70,000 veils . The nearest of creatures to God (mighty and sublime) are
Gabriel , Michael , and Raphael , and between them and Him are four veils: a veil of fire, a veil of darkness, a veil of cloud, and a veil of water." [5]
This Hadith is quoted somewhat differently by
Ibn Majah as follows:
“God has seventy thousand veils of light and darkness ; if He were to remove them, the radiant splendors of His Face would burn up whoever (or ‘whatever creature’) was reached by His Gaze.”

For those who have purified their hearts, and who come to know the Divine Names and Attributes to the fullest of their individual capacities, the veils in front of the purely spiritual realms are opened slightly, and they begin to gain familiarity with the unseen.

11. ing students of Islamic knowledge:

Anas Ibn Malik said,
"There were two brothers (that lived) at the time of the Prophet (peace be upon him). One of them would come to Prophet (peace be upon him), whereas the other one would seek his sustenance (by working). So the the one who used to seek his sustenance complained to the Prophet (peace be upon him) about his brother. The Prophet (peace be upon him) replied,
‘It is possible that you are provided your rizq because of him’"
[Shaykh Al-Albani agreed it to be authentic, Saheeh Sunan Al-Tirmidhi(2/274)]

12. Showing kindness to the poor:

The Prophet (peace be upon him) said,
"The only reason that you are aided in victory (against your enemies) and provided with sustenance due to your weak?"
[Al-Bukahri (14/179)]

13. Being honest in ones dealings:

The Prophet (peace be upon him) said:
"The two parties of a transaction have the right (to annul the contract) as long as they don't separate (from each other). So, if they were truthful (to one another), and honest in explaining (the defects of an item), then they will be blessed in their transaction. But, if they lied, and hid (the defects of an item) then the blessings of their transaction are destroyed"
[Muslim, # 3836]


14. Making the hereafter One’s Main concern:

Once Zayd Bin Thabit wa with Marwan, the leader of the City, when he went to visit 'Abd Al-Rahman Ibn 'Uthman Bin 'Affan, Abd Al-Rahman said, "Nothing caused him to come here, at this hour except a question that he wants to ask." So he asked him (what the matter was). He replied, "He (meaning Marwan) asked us about matters that we heard the Prophet (peace be upon him) say". I heard the Prophet (peace be upon him) say:
"Whoever puts this world as his only (and primary) goal, them Allah will divide his affairs for him, and He will place poverty before his eyes, and nothing will come to him of this world except that which was already written (i.e. pre-destined) for him. But whoever made the Hereafter his goal, the Allah will gather his affairs for him, and he will place richness in his heart, and the world will come to him conquered and submissive"
[Al-Albani Silsila As-Saheehah, #950 ]

15. Striving to achieve the goal (for sustenance):

He knows that there will be some among you sick, others traveling through the land, seeking of Allah’s Bounty; yet others fighting in Allah’s Cause. So recite as much of the Qur'ân as may be easy (for you), and perform As-Salât (Iqâmat-as-Salât) and give Zakât, and lend to Allah a goodly loan, And whatever good you send before you for yourselves, (i.e. Nawâfil non-obligatory acts of worship: prayers, charity, fasting, Hajj and 'Umrah), you will certainly find it with Allah, better and greater in reward. And seek Forgiveness of Allah. Verily, Allah is Oft-Forgiving, Most-Merciful
[Surah Al-Muzammil, Verse 20]

And We have appointed the night and the day as two Ayât (signs etc.). Then, We have obliterated the sign of the night (with darkness) while We have made the sign of the day illuminating, that you may seek bounty from your Lord, and that you may know the number of the years and the reckoning. And We have explained everything (in detail) with full explanation.
[Surah Al-Isra, Verse 20]

Taken from Yasir Qadhi's book "15 Ways to increase your earnings from Quran and Sunnah"

6. Frequently performing Hajj and ‘Umrah:

It has been reported by ‘abdullah Ibn Mas’ud that the Prophet of Allah (peace be upon him) said:
"Follow up between Hajj and ‘Umrah (i.e. continuously repeat the performance of Hajj and ‘Umrah) because they both eliminate poverty and sins just like a furnace eliminates the dirty impurities of iron, gold and silver. And an accepted Hajj has no reward less than paradise"
[ Shaykh Al-Albani in Sahih Sunan Al-Tirmidhi (1/245)]

7. Establishing the ties of kinship:

Abu Hurayrah reported that the Prophet (peace be upon him) said:
“Whoever is pleased with the fact that his Rizq be increased, and his life-span be extended, then let him establish the ties of kinship”
[Al-Bukari, # 5985]

Anas Ibn Malik reported that the Prophet (peace be upon him) said:
“Whoever wishes to have his Rizq increased, and his life-span be extended, then let him establish the ties of kinship”
[Al-Bukari, # 5986]

Abu Hurayrah reported that the Prophet (peace be upon him) said:
“Learn enough of your lineage, so that you can establish the ties of kinship, for establish the ties of kinship increases the love amongst families and multiplies wealth and extends age”
[Shaykh Al-Albani in Sahih Sunan Al-Tirmidhi (2/190)]

8. Spending in the way of Allah:

Say: "Truly, my Lord enlarges the provision for whom He wills of His slaves, and (also) restricts (it) for him, and whatsoever you spend of anything (in Allâh's Cause), He will replace it. And He is the Best of providers."
[Surah Saba, Verse 39]

Abu Hurayrah said that the Prophet (peace be upon him) said:
“ Allah has said: ‘O Son of Adam! Spend I will spend on you!”
[Sahih Muslim (2/690)]

The Prophet (peace be upon him) said:
“There is not a single day in which a servant wakes that two angels come down (from the Heavens). One of them says, O’ Allah! Give to the one that spends a substitute (for what he has spent). And the other one says, ‘O Allah! Give to the one that withhold some (his money) destruction!”
[Al-Bukhari #1442]

The Prophet (peace be upon him) said,
“While a person was in an open area of land, he heard voice in a cloud above him say. "water the garden of so-and-so!" So the cloud immediately departed, and started pouring its rain out on a rocky plain. A large crevice in the rocks collected all of this water. So the man followed the water (in its course), and he found a man standing in his garden, using an instrument to direct this water in different directions *(to irrigate his garden). He said to him, ‘O servant of Allah! What is your name?’ The man said ‘So-an-so,’ the same name that he had heard in the clouds! Then the man asked him, ‘O servant of Allah! Why are you asking me my name?’ So he responded. ‘I heard a voice in the clouds- the same clouds that this water came from- saying, “water the garden of so-and-so” with your name. What do you interpret this as (i.e. why do you think this happened )?’ So he said, ‘If you say this (i.e. if what you say occurred), then (the reason for this is that) I see what (crops) come out of it (this garden), and I give one third in charity, and I eat with my family one third of it, and I return one third of it (to cultivate more crops)”” and in another narration, it is reported that he said, …and I give one third of it to the poor, and the beggars, and the wayfarers.’
[Muslim (4/2288)]

9. Hijrah, Emigrating for the sake of Allah:

He who emigrates (from his home) in the Cause of Allah, will find on earth many dwelling places and plenty to live by. And whosoever leaves his home as an emigrant unto Allah and His Messenger, and death overtakes him, his reward is then surely incumbent upon Allah. And Allah is Ever Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful.
[Surah Al-Nisa, Verse 100]

10. Marriage:

And marry those among you who are single (i.e. a man who has no wife and the woman who has no husband) and (also marry) the Sâlihûn (pious, fit and capable ones) of your (male) slaves and maid-servants (female slaves). If they be poor, Allah will enrich them out of His Bounty. And Allah is All-Sufficent for His creatures' needs, All-Knowing (about the state of the people).
[Surah Al-Nur, Verse 32]

1. The Taqwa of Allah:

And whosoever fears Allah and keeps his duty to Him, He will make a way for him to get out (from every difficulty). (2) And He will provide him from (sources) he never could imagine. And whosoever puts his trust in Allah, then He will suffice him. Verily, Allah will accomplish his purpose. Indeed Allah has set a measure for all things.(3)
[Surah Al-Talaq, Verse 2-3]

And if the people of the towns had believed and had the Taqwa (piety), certainly, We should have opened for them blessings from the heaven and the earth, but they belied (the Messengers). So We took them (with punishment) for what they used to earn (polytheism and crimes).
[ Surah Al-Araf, Verse 96]


2. Seeking Forgiveness and repentance:

"I said (to them): 'Ask forgiveness from your Lord; Verily, He is Oft-Forgiving; (10) 'He will send rain to you in abundance; (11) 'And give you increase in wealth and children, and bestow on you gardens and bestow on you rivers.'(12) "
[Surah Nooh, Verses 10-12]

"And O my people! Ask forgiveness of your Lord and then repent to Him, He will send you (from the sky) abundant rain, and add strength to your strength, so do not turn away as Mujrimûn (criminals, disbelievers in the Oneness of Allah)."
[Surah Hood, Verse 52]

And (commanding you): "Seek the forgiveness of your Lord, and turn to Him in repentance, that He may grant you good enjoyment, for a term appointed, and bestow His abounding Grace to every owner of grace (i.e. the one who helps and serves needy and deserving, physically and with his wealth, and even with good words). But if you turn away, then I fear for you the torment of a Great Day (i.e. the Day of Resurrection).
[Surah Hood, Verse 3]

3. Tawakkul:

‘Umar Ibn Al-Khattab reported that Prophet (peace be upon him) said,

"If you were to put trust in Allah (Tawakkul) the way that Allah deserves, then you would be provided for as birds are; they leave (in search of food) at the beginning of the day famished, and return at the end of the day full"
[Shaykah Al-Abani’s Silsilat Al-Sahihah, # 310]

And He will provide him from (sources) he never could imagine. And whosoever puts his trust in Allah, then He will suffice him. Verily, Allah will accomplish his purpose. Indeed Allah has set a measure for all things.
[Surah Al-Talaq, Verse 2-3]

Would that they were contented with what Allah and His Messenger (peace be upon him) gave them and had said: "Allah is Sufficient for us. Allah will give us of His Bounty, and so will His Messenger (from alms, etc.). We implore Allah (to enrich us)."
[Surah Al-Tawba, Verse 59]


4. Constantly worshipping Allah:

Abu Hurayrah stated that the Prophet (peace be upon him) said,
"Allah says, ‘O son of Adam! Take time out to constantly worship me, I will fill your chest with richness, and remove your poverty. And if you do not do so, I will make your hands filled with occupation, and will not remove your poverty”
[Shaykh Al-Albani declared it to authentic in his Sunan Al-Tirmidhi]

Ma’qal Ibn Yasaar reported that Prophet (peace be upon him) said:
“Your Lord, all glory and honor be to Him says, ‘O Son of Adam! Take the time out to constantly worship Me, I will fill your chest with richness! O Son of Adam! Do not distance yourself from Me, or I will fill your chest with poverty, and fill your hands with work ”
[Shaykah Al-Abani’s Silsilat Al-Sahihah, # 1359]


5. Thanking Allah:

And () when your Lord proclaimed: "If you give thanks (by accepting Faith and worshiping none but Allah), I will give you more (of My Blessings), but if you are thankless (i.e. disbelievers), verily! My Punishment is indeed severe."
[Surah Ibrahim, Verse 7]

Empiree:
^^^^

Sounds familiar with what I read on fb this afternoon (attachment). Sheikh Habibu also said similar thing as well about importance of having guide sheikh.

But today, people don't want to serve. I understand there are fake shuyukh who only want to use you or want u to be subservient to them 100%. But this should not debar truth seekers from reaching their goal. Kidma is very important.

We also have some saying that kidma is shikr. They said this out of desires. SMH

Am talking about this. I want to know must it be salatul fatih, Wat about ibrahimiya and others

Did i see salatul fatih, Empiree come oo why salatul fatih sef.

AlBaqir:
SOME WORDS ABOUT SPIRITUALITY

a spiritual wayfarer needs a spiritual guider. And to know the right guider is yet another big problem. Obviously, a fake guider is easily recognised in the fact that they failed woefully and easily in Shari'at. How can somebody that doesn't pray at all, or on time be a true spiritual guide?!

My brother tank u for touching this topic. this spiritual guider interest me more.

I said it here u can't just give someone some codes dat they should go and do it, without u even knowing wats going to happen if they do it, which means u hav nt gone through that part but wants to use another person as a test. Wat if d person runs mad.

If u want to toe spiritual part u need a very experienced guider. Not online guider, someone that will be their physically guiding u.its very important

guru1234:
@EMEKARAj, u need to learn "AUTHENTC TAUHEED" as all this jinn stories and spritual jihad you only need to ask yoursef how it does benefit the UMAH and how does that make you a better muslim. Not all knowledge are beneficial, and you need to be careful so u wont lead yoursef astray.....MASALAM

My brother, u think as a devotee Muslim in my thirties I dnt knw wat authentic tawheed is, I dnt only knw them I strongly practice them. Well may be theres somthin I dnt knw dat u will like to teach me, pls u are welcome to add any useful info here.

Empiree:
@emekaraj, watch this 4 mins vid and read few comments on the video. Oh, sorry, u dont speak yoruba but you can read comments


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E9QhXPCruTA

Empiree where u dey always get this video from, dem no dey get English.

The guy dat make d first comments just spoke my mind, there's no divinity attached to me oo I dnt know about others. It helps me in ing Allah, that's all. Somtimes I even get ashamed of it and use it from my pocket, thinking pple will think am showing off, but then I thought wat da hell Allah knws best my intention.
Look at the second guy that commented, just look at the long thing he wrote, just to prove wat.
I dnt know why pple just can't look at the positive that someone is ing Allah rather Dan d counter.
Truth is somtimes i cant even count to 33 without misplacing the count. So how can I count 100 or 1000. With the counter it gives me ease an i do more. I wonder wat they will say about the digital tesby dats in d market now.

My question is Whats the Sheikh stand on the issue and what's your stand.

I thought I heard this man should not be in the company of more than 10 people. Abi I no hear well ni

When We re-discover that life on “the other side” is just as real, if not more real, than life here in the physical world. And it is vastly even more beautiful. U dnt fear death anymore. It becomes like a glad tiding

Empiree:
I know you just seem to have problems with "seeing Allah". Too big for you to digest hun?. Let's leave it like that. We all saying the same thing indirectly. But let me drop this.

Scholars depict this level of faith as maqam al-mushahadah – “the Station of Spiritual Witnessing” – basing it on the words of the Prophet ṣallallāhu 'alayhi wa sallam (peace and blessings of Allāh be upon him), in which he explained spiritual excellence (ihsan) to be: ‘That you worship Allah as though seeing Him, and though you may not see Him, know that He sees you.’ [Muslim, no.80] This witnessing Allah with the heart is where, writes Ibn Rajab, ‘the heart is illumined with faith, and the inner sight arrives at gnosis, so much so that the Unseen becomes, as it were, seen (wa huwa an yutanawwara’l-qalbu bi’l-iman wa tanfudha’l-basiratu fi’l-‘irfan hatta yasira’l-ghaybu ka’l-‘ayan).’

♦

I understand ihsan well, if it's in that context u r driving at, then theres is no need to argue, but if not, because d other time u held on to, "see sign of Allah an not Allah himself. So am confused.

According tafsir of ibn kathir 7vs 143 he quoted from scripture that Allah said to musa AS, O musa no living soul see me, but will perish, no solid but will demolish.

Lemme just ask u this last question.... . Empiree say the truth, u really believe that any finite flesh an blood living in this world could see his majesty by any means at all. And wen rusul saw Jibril in his true form, he covered d horizon, how do u tink his majesty will be.

If yes, I want u to make it clear to me, in wich context do u believe one can see Allah.

Empiree:
smh....nabi must (as) wanted to see Allah through his material eyes was the reason he got knocked down.

Do u care to read hadith where Jibrail(as) came to teach Islam to people and he enquired about ihsan?. The reply he got was to pray as if he is "seeing" Allah though u can not see him. What is "seeing" mentioned in the hadith means to you? . Does it mean seeing Allah with this eyes on our head?.

So if the hadith uses "seeing Allah" in that sentence, what's wrong with using it now?.

yea I hav read d hadith, dat phrase "AS IF" before the seeing God tho.

Empiree:
I guess you kept missing the quotes "see" not see. I'm not just interested in much of the arguments over this

Oooh! issorai.

I just think that we human we ar too difficult, a verse as simple as a'raf 143 would hav been anough to dismiss this idea of seeing God. But been humans we like to twist things to our favour, this is the reason why there are so many sect in Islam today.

I wonder why musa didn't use his inner eyes to see him. Abi inner eyes no dey dat time. But instead he fainted.

BUT I do believe we will be able to see our Lord on d day of judgment. This aya 75 vs 22-23 proves it.

AlBaqir:
# For those who are interested in learning on spirituality, Irfan (spiritual journey), here's a book Light within me. Yes it is written by three Shi'a ulama. Spirituality has nothing to do with "shia vs Sunni" on this or that. Interestingly, every single gnostic of every age and century was discussed in the book (including Sheik Abdul-Qadir al-Gilani), their beliefs and method of Irfan.

You can the PDF here:
https://www.al-islam.org/light-within-me-mutahhari-tabatabai-khomeini

God bless you, I hav always read books writing by Shia scholars, theres one am reading now about barzakh quite interesting, brilliant pple. Perhaps I will post them wen am through

Empiree:
Interesting. From what i am reading from other sources appears to point that, in Shiism, they dont seem to believe in "seeing" Allah not even in the Hereafter. This appears to be in conflict with Sunnis creed. We all can agree that this material eyes CAN NOT see God. Thats fact. To say otherwise would be kufr as in Christianity and other religions.

There are difference of opinions as to whether nabi(saw) actually saw Allah in his spiritual journey. I ed growing up there used to be back n fourth discussions on it. What is clear however is that, nabi(saw) being up there was no longer is material body (material universe). He was in a different space and time just like encounters btw waliy or pious Muslims have to be in the state of malakut to communicate with malaika.


Some scholars are also of the opinion that Nabi(saw) did see Allah but could not describe what he saw. He was bereft of speech before he could utter "At-tahiyyat lilah". This is opinion that i hold personally. I my coursemate narrating this to me in his apartment in ilorin back then. It was described as seeing something in front of him but could not really figure it out. Apart from these material eyes, "seeing" Allah in the heart simply means seeing His Signs to avoid any misconceptions. Seeing Allah's Signs is beyond other Signs of Allah that our material eyes can visioned. It boils down to levels. "Oju ju oju lo"

Mmmmmmm Empiree we r getting their small small, step by step we will get their. I do know for sure that this argument will be endless. Seeing signs of Allah and seeing Allah is two different. It would hav been better if anyone who had d experience to nicely put it. "I saw the signs of Allah taala" to avoid confusion. I dnt hav problem believing that our prophet SAW saw the Almighty, it's possible of course, someone once told me he saw him but forgot wat how was, his description etc wen he came down. Like the part were he saw the Almighty was formatted from his brain. Different narration sha. May Allah guide us

Albaqir I have been told Shia's are very brilliant pple. I fit una sha but on a low key oo

Ikupakuti

Oga stop telling me to learn, as if am not ready to learn, I am ready to learn even from children, am learning from albaqir now in his post in this thread becouse he is making sense, i cease to learn from you when I realize the kind of person you are, and how ur post can lead people astray. Incase u dnt knw dats why I withdraw from you. Stop telling me I lack understanding because I knw Ur own meaning of understanding is when someone take ur word for it without objections.

@ ikupakuti

Obviously u had a bunch in mind prior to this not just this. I knw ur type, I didn't even saying that but u had it all along with ya. Continue to kip them their.
Like I said u r most likely to use every opportunity to showcase. But am not buying that.
I repeat everybody dnt hav to succumb to ur view. Dnt force ur view on me. What should I learn Islamic science for, so I will be well vast in Islam arguement or what, or so I can memories Quran and hadith to prove what. I never claim to know it all, just sharing my experience but since the whole thing is gibberish to you, why not open ur thread or find other thread, there are thousands of thread, whats special about dis one. after romancing this thread from first page till now, playing a leading role the only thing u see in my post is seeing what d dogs are seeing lol, am nt suprise by ur type. thankfully I hadn't gone deep. but by Allah I hav helped pple and family and still doing presently.

Empiree:
This is where you need Ulul Albab Q39:18
or warosiquna fil ilm Imran 7

Mmmmmmm Empiree obviously u strongly believe in this. issorai