NewStats: 3,263,126 , 8,179,190 topics. Date: Wednesday, 04 June 2025 at 07:08 PM 6e36c

helinues:


Get a meaningful life and stop trolling me senselessly

Topic of discussion is none of una business . The opinion killers dem

Radarada

Uncle just shut up! You are irritating

omoredia:
Him get children? His gay partner will get half of the billions

We understand you are senseless, but displaying it at every junction is appalling

Mirasteel:
Imagine justifying nonsense just to prove a point, you heartless negro.

Why don't you let people know that Palestinian have been living in Gaza and other areas with the real Jews before the fake European Zionist Jews came to the land.

Those fake European Zionist Jews came pleading to Palestinians to accept them and give them lands to stay, Palestinians were so kind and agreed and afterwards those evil Zionist Jews showed their true colors.


I don't even expect anything reasonable from you since your heart is already dark from evilness.

Your evil wicked heart should tell you that you have do away with Muslims whenever have the opportunity

ariesbull:
the same way they used Islam to fool the Hausa folks

Now if you are not Fulani, you cannot be emir in the north

Gerrard59:
Just because Libya shares the continent or geographical space as Sudan or Nigeria does not make them "Africans". This includes Morocco, Tunisia Egypt etc.

When would our people learn this basic concept?

Weyrey, you suppose know say Na black originally get land

BlackViper:


https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cx2vnvnpe00o

Why should they rescue senseless people in the sea

sparko1:


The part you don't get is, people living in the US will definitely buy those imported products
they have been buying and they will continue, the difference is, the quantity will be lower.

Take Nigeria for example, when Buhari stop importation of rice, local rice was cheaper than
foreign rice before the government stop the importation, what happened after, the price of local rice
is almost the same as imported rice, why? Because farmers discovered Nigerians hand no choice.

The only difference is the government stopped the importation instead of increasing tariff, which is the best,
because tariff won't force people to start farming, it will only allow a select few to be able to buy at higher cost,
which will still drive the price of the few locally made ones up, everyone wants profit, you should keep that in mind.

I see what you are saying, but I still think not all countries is like Nigeria and Nigeria local producers faced a different challenge the insecurity , high interest rate, lack of infrastructure, inflation will still make Nigeria rice costly, even if you remove the ban on importation of rice.

America should just borrow the Chinese playbook and delay everything at Port. Simple

Amayabor1:


This fool who is stuck in one small hole in Nigeria and who has never left the shores of Nigeria and and who doesn't know how international politics and trade works is trying so hard to appear intelligent.

I will give you some education so you stop fooling yourself. No country, I repeat, no country wakes up one day and impose tarrifs on other countries. As a leader of a country, if you feel another country or countries is taking advantage of your country, you open channels of communication for dialogue. The issues will be trashed out and preferably, a trade deal is signed. That trade deal will be binding on both countries such that, no matter who becomes leaders in those countries, the trade deal will remain binding. And a trade deal can be renegotiated.

You gave the example of China. What I tried explaining to you fool is that, Trump can't coerce China to buy more of American goods. It doesn't work that way. Let's say China promised Trump to buy more of American goods. That promise is not binding as China is not under any obligation to buy more of American goods by mere words of mouth. Trump can't drag china to WTO today because China failed to keep to it's promise to buy more of American goods. If however Trump had signed a trade deal with China, then China would be under obligation to buy those American products and if China default, America can drag China to World trade organization (WTO) and if WTO mediation fails, then the Americans can retaliate with tarrifs. That is how the world order works. It is called world order for a reason. It is an order. There are laid down procedures and guidelines for doing things. Not this knee jerk approach and chaos of Trump. And this world order was primarily established by the US. It allows for amicable settlement of trade disputes without necessarily rocking the international market and world supply chains. It is these knee jerk approach and uncertainty from Trump that has caused the US stock market to lose close to 6 trillion dollars.

Let me give you an example; during Trump's first tenure, Trump wasn't satisfied with the trade deal that the US , Mexico and Canada had. He renegotiated with these countries and a new trade deal wad signed (NAFTA). Now, he is criticizing this same trade deal his government signed and he has gone against this trade deal to impose tarrifs on Mexico and Canada. So, I want to ask you a question; If Trump can go against the trade deal that his own government signed with Mexico and Canada, what makes you feel China can uphold a promise (a promise, not a trade deal) to buy more American products? Trump went against a trade deal his own govt signed. But your issue is that China failed to keep to it's promise to buy more American goods. Between a trade deal and a promise, which is more binding? Can't you see how stupid you are?


What about the EU, Japan, South Korea, Vietnam, UK, Nigeria etc and other countries Trump imposed tarrifs on without first ironing out any issues he has with these countries through negotiations? You think world trade is by gra gra?

For example, he imposed 46% tarrifs on imports from Vietnam because, according to him, Vietnam imposes 90% tarrifs on US goods. Dunce like you believed him. The average tarrifs on US goods by Vietnam is 9.6%. Which country imposes 90% tarrifs on another country?

If you understand all these, you wouldn't be asking a stupid question about what would I have done differently.



Well, he can continue with the tarrifs. The Tarrifs will be paid by US citizens. You can continue to bark from your shit-hole like a dog.


Peace ✌️

After bawling like a bull you finally come to your senses. After showing so much stupidity it's hard to reason with you. But I'll try cos I'm the bigger man here.
The same you noticed that trump had a sit together with xi of china during his first tenure. Maybe you didn't noticed that the of their agreement was never implemented by china.



REALTIME ECONOMICS
China bought none of the extra $200 billion of US exports in Trump's trade deal
Chad P. Bown (PIIE)

Minor revisions and updates to the figures in the original post of February 8, 2022 have been made in light of the subsequent releases of US export data.




In the end, China bought only 58 percent of the US exports it had committed to purchase under the agreement, not even enough to reach its import levels from before the trade war.[1] Put differently, China bought none of the additional $200 billion of exports Trump's deal had promised.

Trump's "phase one" agreement with his "very, very good friend" President Xi Jinping was not a total washout. The deal did halt his spiraling trade war. And several of its elements should be kept, notably China's commitments to remove technical barriers to US farm exports, respect intellectual property, and open up its financial services




CHINA WAS NEVER ON TRACK TO MEET ANY OF THE ADDITIONAL PURCHASE COMMITMENTS
The phase one agreement committed China to increase its purchases of certain US goods and services in 2020 and 2021 by at least $200 billion over 2017 levels (figure 1).[2] China agreed to buy at least $227.9 billion of US exports in 2020 and $274.5 billion in 2021, for a total of $502.4 billion over the two years.[3] The agreement also established legal commitments for a defined set of manufacturing, services,

You still went Trump's way by fnally imposing tariff.after negotiations.

As for NAFTa, trump is partially wrong for placing tariff on his home base supply chain without having a robust homegrown supply chain.
Though I understand his position on the Chinese using the North America trade agreement to skip tariff, I guess you aren't smart enough to know that. And that's every wrong of Mexico, trump should look for other way to address that.

What I'll do differently, is after certain really gentle tariff is subtly make sure that goods from nations I hoped to tariffed hardly make it out of the ports and all entry points. Using bogus bureaucracy, intellectual theft, national security. I'll just borrow a leaf from china playbook.

Finally, trying to brag that you've left the shores of Nigeria makes you important, just shows that you have underlying insecurity issues. Even an jmbecile have left the shores of Nigeria.

Saga16:


You're not following the news.

Trump can never appease Canada.

The line is drawn.

then you don't know international politics. If I may ask, who would Canada turn to?

Saga16:


Canada would not stick with US.

Trump started, Canada would end it.

Elbows up.

Lol. Canada will die with US if US as much throws a little carrots

Saga16:


You're talking sheet.

US is nor China's number 1 market, Europe is.

US has pissed all former allies off and choose to stand alone.

Stand alone they must.

The Caucasians will always stick together, and japan will choose America any day any time when push comes to shove

tuoyoojo:


This would have worked if US was a manufacturing giant and if US has allies.

Right now she is fighting both friends and foes


China has been proactive unlike Europe who mortgaged their economic and military security to US thinking that a day like this would never come

China has BRICS plus, China has far reaching influence in Africa and Latin America and Asia. US is heavily dependent on China's imports. If you were a 3rd world country who would you rather pitch your tent with, US or China

All these countries you mentioned will dance to America if America dangle just a plantain. China has killed the world manufacturing base, you just don't know it. Furthermore, china don't straight up put tariff on people goods, but will make sure that your goods don't make it to outer the Chinese ports.
Who I'll choose, I'll rather chose a open devil than an economic constrictor..


If I'm lying try exporting anything of your choice to china , then try the same to America. Then compare the two

Saga16:


Who are allies of USA?

Canada?

Europe?

Europe, Japan, Korea , Canada India. So you know, these countries will grovel to America if America should dangle a plantain

Saladdin:


Now this is someone with sense and decorum talking.

Every sane human regardless of their tribe, race and religion needs to pray that China, Russia and the Axis win this economic war over the demonic West. Everyone is tired of hypocrisy, genocide and wokeism.

Some comments made earlier has led me to firmly believe that either Nairaland has been invaded by bots and paid Western agents or some people choose to be deliberately stupid.

One even stated that Africa will dump Chinese goods. Dump them for whose goods exactly?
China is the reason most Africans now own a smartphone and use sophisticated gadgets.

Left to the West, they'll prefer to make those gadgets unaffordable for us.

But some goats on this forum would prefer to the West, who have never hidden their disdain for us over China. Very unreasonable set of people.

Dear goat, where is your reasoning. The west is evil and china is your savour. You mumu no be small. For your information, America is a fierce honey bee while china is a economic constrictor. For your level of reasoning, it will take you years to digest that

mastermaestro:


China will cave in at the end. American goods don't sell in China the way Chinese goods rely heavily on US markets. Watch as Chinese factories start folding up. US has purchasing power, that's why Trump brags.

You've not even mentioned if America should get Japan on its side. I pity Chinese hawks

Krismas:
dey play.
Israel is trash

Lol. Keep spewing this muhamedic lies

sparko1:


He can't reduce minimum wage, he can't restrict regulatory agencies, he is trying to force the companies back to the country,
But the reason they left can't be addressed.

Even those still in the country do most of the labour intensive parts in China and complete the rest in USA.

What he doesn't know is, the reverse will be the case, once everyone starts paying in the US for the tariff,
those still in the country will have an excuse to raise their price, and when they discover they are still not making enough profit
they will move as well.

Let me give you an example for cheap labour.

In Nigeria, if you want to do renovation, you can decide to pay the state government agency some money and they will allow you,
You then go ahead and employ who can do the job, be it bricklayer, painters, welder, as far as they are good, you negotiate with them
and they go ahead and do the Job.

In UK for example, you can't do that, before you begin anything, at least 3 to 5 regulatory agencies will visit, depending on if it's residential, commercial, factory, the kind of facilities that you want to use, waste management, water, gas.
Then when you want to employ workers, you can't just pick anyone, they must have certifications, with appropriate body.
Sometimes the cost of labour is higher than materials, the right word is most time.

If I'm getting you right? When Americans start to pay for the tariffs, companies in America will in raising their price. Why? In the nut shell,so when Chinese goods become expensive, American companies will fold and go to china

AndroBlaze:


I could repeat the same back to you too. The US market is 300 million people, China's market is 1.4 billion alone .

Also US is not actually there biggest trading partner (the no1 country though), ASEAN and EU countries exceed the value of trade with the US, and that will continue too grow, with everyone also imposing tariffs on US goods.

This battle Trump is trying to fight is a long-term battle and can never be won in the 4 years he has. Pretty stupid.

Did the next istration after Trump's first term reduce or changed trump policies against china?
What if Europe seeing that china is actually trying to kill them by slowing killing their local industry in Europe by overcapacity, great subsidies, no back ward integration for anything not Chinese and align with trump to place massive tariff on china with a promise of reduce or zero tarrif from America

inoki247:



Lol if you take your business to States are you going to be paying the same wages like the one being paid to Chinese. When you factorize US minimum wage in your cost of Production so to you it will still be cheaper...

What if it's taken to Mexico

tuoyoojo:
China said they would fight to the end

China and US need each other but trump wants to bully his way to dominance but China is no push over

The worse that can happen would soon happen, all trades with the two nations would stop.

If that happens both of them would bleed profusely

It is a useless war that would achieve nothing

They tried sanctions against Russia and Russia still prospered. US wan test the mic on china

What if America gets its allies to place similar or worst tariffs on china, with promise of zero or lower tariff.

I think China go hear am.

China Play, force Africa to buy more. And since china is in control of 70% of the processing of the world critical elements,
Then really devalue their currency to still make Chinese goods really cheap no matter the tarriff. china still have a card to play

tunapawizzy:

US sells $143bn to china, China sells $438bn to US
US is the largest importer of goods from China at $438bn, the next is Hong Kong at $138bn followed by Japan $74.11bn, South Korea $72.77 bn and Vietnam $77.83 bn.
And you think na US go still suffer am? Do you honestly think inbetween ramping up production capacity and looking at alternative markets, the US will not find a solution. Do you how many of those Chinese brains producing in China that are begging for the option of moving their production plants to US. I hope China will not use this trade war to expose herself

Bros this people no know if America promise Europe and japan great trade reduction or zero tariff if they place equally or far more greater tariff on china. China will hear whine

michroskrve:
See your life . AMERICA is not supper power when it comes to local markets. China leads. Virtually every used in USS is been produced or imported from China
America needs china

Ode confidently dey type rubbish

udemzyudex:


That's what Trump is trying to stop or reduce.

so aptly put.
In all his long posts, he still couldn't see the danger in allowing your production to go outside.
He thinks everybody is a Blackman

Krismas:
There is nothing great about Israel. All na hype, cruise and cap. Iran striking Israel was special cos NATO and certain mid-east countries like Jordan mount guide to shoot Iran missile down.

Lol

Krismas:
Iran was the great Persia civilization. It have always been great and it will always be great.
Recently Iran struck Israel twice with more than 400 missiles. Iran has to be great to do dat

Wow ! It's good to know that you tying Iran artificial greatness to Isreal

Amayabor1:


That is why you are a certified dimwit. 😅😅. Stop asking foolish questions. Asking what I will do different doesn't arise in this matter.

If you are not for or against Trump's tarrrifs, then get the Bleep out of this thread. We are all analyzing how Trump's tarrifs is either good or bad. You came here with a stupid question.

I have repeatedly showed you evidence that Trump's tarrifs is wrong. Yet, you believe you can ask me a useless question. Asking me what I would have done differently as if I have the opportunity to really do anything different.

Dunce!

You are such a faithful idiot.. thanks for proving that you have nothing upstairs and will amount to little. You also proved that you can never think critically,and will forever remain an armchair critique.
Ode since you have nothing effective to offer, you just defeated all your rants , thereby summing everything you have been saying to zero.

Ode even tried to postulate intelligence by initially saying " I'll seat down and talk to other partners" but I saw through his facade, that this fool have nothing upstairs.

Thanks for letting us know. Since you have nothing effective to contribute, forever remain silent.

Trump this trump that. Asked baba wetin you go run,baba turn to jmbecile

Krismas:
Iran is a very very great nation

Lol , a nation that can't feed it's people is a great Nation, a nation that's always death and destruction is a great nation, a nation that allowed one scam artist to deceive them is a great nation. Ire o

Krismas:
Rubbish
How about Ukraine? Morrocco?
Israel is tough? becos they are fighting a people with no Planes, no Tanks, no artillery no war ships, no 2000pound bombs, no air defense? You don't know what being a great country is

is Iran a great nation?

Amayabor1:


A fool asking a foolish question. Lol. I am not the president of the US. I just showed your hypocrisy to the world. Stop asking foolish questions and agree that Trump has messed up.

You claimed China refused to buy more products from the US after they promised to do so, that is why the US imposed tarrifs on China.

I now asked you, what did the EU, Canada, Mexico, UK, Japan, and the other countries did to deserve tarrifs. You went mute.

I also asked you why Trump disregarded the NAFTA with Caanda and Mexico to impose tarrifs on Mexico and Canada, you went mute.

Trump is making you guys look so stupid. Lol. He would have made your job easier if he had imposed tarrifs on only China. You can't defend his actions, you are now asking me a stupid question because I am the president of the US. Lol.

China doesn't have any agreement to buy more goods from the US. You don't coerce countries to buy more good from you. Ode.

The countries he has trade agreement with, he has gone against the trade agreement.

Let these 2 points sink into your empty skull.

There is an ongoing issue at hand. He left it to be asking me what I will do differently. Ode 🤣 🤣

I think someone gave this fool a phone and internet. This fool couldn't address a thing of what I'm saying, yet thinks he's so brilliant.
If you have half a brain, you will noticed I never argued for or against tarrif. My take is what will a fool like you do differently if consulted on this issue. Yet a fool like kept littering this internet space with your buffoonery. Without making any point. Mumu

Mumu like should know that in a situation like this instead of criticism like an idiot that you are, you could offer solutions.
But idiot like you kept yapping about Trump right or wrong actions

RodgersAkpafu:


You are equating Palestinians to Terrorists
And that is the major flaw in the entire argument

ok hamas

RodgersAkpafu:

you are a big fool

Don't you think those terrorists should cleared. Or you expect isreal to clear the place and still allow Palestinians to come and live there. Well isreal should copy Russia.

PlanetZero:
I'm of the opinion that isreal knows of the impending Oct 7 attack but intentional allow them to carry it out know fully what their long term plans were to take over gaza

Hamas are so dumb and they played into the trap

It's remaining the Iran question