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ibrahim2032:
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Graphics card?
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payne4real:
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Ok why is the link to your pricing not working

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And your website is unavailable?? �‍♂️

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Aditii:
It has its pros and cons, some women suffer absolutely painful periods, while suffer some bearable pains while some don't even get cramps at all. A lot of women would use this leave as an excuse to skip work eve though they don't have painful periods. There's no way one can the authenticity of claims of debilitating pains during periods, so it's best to just leave things as they are. We have been surviving since and we'd continue to survive. Highest, a woman can call in sick if she's not fit enough to get to work if she's in so much pains.

Well coming from a lady, it's a very intelligent comment, however in India, the deal is not to check if a lady is menstruating or is having cramps, all they are bidding for is that ladies take 1 or 2 days off every month, the reason for this is that the majority says it's just the first day dats is really painful so a day or two will do, so wether you really do have pains or not they don't care and no one will question you bcus of culture issues but I really don't see it being practical here in Naija even though I know some people here on nairaland will say they need it.
On the other hand what's your take on the 26weeks maternity leave. Choiiii

Several countries have introduced a menstrual leave provision for their employees. As early as 1947, Japan ed a law allowing women with debilitating periods to take days off. Similarly, in South Korea, women were granted menstrual leave from the year 2001 onwards. Companies like Nike have also adopted similar policies.

This bill is currently in the process in India and some companies in India has also started implementing it,
https://www.thehindubusinessline.com/opinion/india-needs-a-menstrual-leave-policy/article24105589.ece/amp/

Note that in India, woman receive paid maternity leave of up to 26weeks.

Should this policy be adopted in Nigeria or shouldn't be even regarded as a valid point.

My view is that if it is considered valid at any point in Nigeria then employers will begin to hire less females which will be disastrous for our non-entrepreneurial feminists.
On the other hand if you have worked in a position where you manage ladies in an office you will know that once they are on their period it most times affects their productivity bcus of the discomfort they feel so it will be considered fair to give them 2days off.

But wait ooo, 26weeks (6months 2weeks)of paid maternity leave, dis one hit me well oo, so if a lady like my Neighbour (Iya Biliki) is in this position, in the last 4years she has given birth 3times, she would have had almost 2years on leave, na wa o


What's your take?

Mizwisdom:
It seems madam is pregnant again, but how do mad people understand how to have sexx?

Lolz seems it's in their subconscious, they may not know when they start but they sure will do once they start enjoying it.

A Corps member identified as Progress Oberiko has taken to social media to narrate a story about a family of 5 who are battling mental illness at Ogoja area of Cross River State.

According to the corps member, the family of 5 battling mental illness are never separated and always found walking together. She added that they speak good english.
The corps member wrote;
This happens to be the weirdest situation I’ve seen in my entire life. I have been trying to get this shot for the past five months and whenever I tried, they either walk past too quickly, change direction, or not just close enough.
At other times I may be on a bike and whenever I ask the cyclist to go slow so I can get a shot of them, he’ll be like “Hmmm, Abeg o, I nor fit stop this bike make u snap o, if the man catch u, your own Don finish!
And that’s how it went.
The first time I saw them here in Ogoja, my heart melted, I was livid. And my mind wandered, searching for the closest guess as to why a whole family, husband, wife, and three beautiful children would be plagued with INSANITY.
WHY!
My heart could not contain the curiosity, then i began to ask questions. Anytime I drove past them in a car or on a bike, I engage the driver or someone in a conversation about them.
I have seen them trekking long distances underthe scorching sun☀, I’ve also met them in the market making enquiries about where they could get a particular item to buy.
They’re never separated, always found walking together, complete family. But the intriguing part is their communication. Jeez! This “MAD” family speak CORRECT QUEENS ENGLISH. They flow in CLEAN grammar. Na this one dey burst my head �
I’ve heard the man instructing one of his children who was walking sluggishly behind him as they trekked down the road; “Hey Dorcas, will you hurry up, C’mon girl, meet up with the pace”. And I marvelled.
At the market he asked someone for directions and he went; “Hey ma’am, Pls where can I get this and this… ”
As you can see their dreadlocks is twisted, showing that it has lasted for God knows how long � This means that this madness nor be today. E Don tay!
A conversation ensued between him and his wife one day and it turned into an argument, people were listening; you’ll be so shocked when you hear what the content of their argument was�..

MuttleyLaff:
donpy, I am not going to quote your full of straw man above last post
because my last experience of doing so was getting rewarded with a ban and having my post hidden

You dont need verbose and long-winded posts,
You employed unnecessary doctrine(s), used unnecessary more words, and ending up writing a post that lacked substance

I dont want to veer into Trinity with you
but if I did, I will be asking you these questions, to get you thinking outside the box

1/ What is God in the Trinity, when God appeared to Abraham?
2/ What is God in the Trinity, when God appeared to Hagar
3/ What is God in the Trinity, when God appeared to Jacob
4/ What is God in the Trinity, when God appeared to Gideon
5/ What is God in the Trinity, when God appeared to Moses, as a burning bush

I can list you so many other similar instances, but those five should be enough, to get you thinking with/from a different perspective

I repeat, that I cant BELIEVE you dont understand what REALLY transpired in that Luke 11 verses
I am pleased you it, accept and agree that "Jesus immediately shifted the focus from his mother to God"
Now, think about this:
1/ What was the focus from his mother to God about?
2/ What was the woman fascinated about?
(i.e. what attracted the attention and interest of the woman?)
3/ What word used, in the woman's remark and Jesus' reply, is common?
4/ In relation to whom, did the woman use the common word?
In relation to whom, did Jesus use this common word?
5/ What is one who hears the word of God and obeys it?
6/ So, what is the woman, if as she has heard the word of God, she obeys?

donpy, I repeat, I know you enjoyed watching that beautiful video plus reading that teacher-kid Q&A
♪ ♬ Mary did you know, when you kiss your little Baby you kissed the face of God?♩ ♫

Now, again, here are five simple questions, I know you easily can answer
1/ When the God, become Father, at what time?
2/ When did God, become Son, at what time?
3/ How did God, become Father?
4/ How did God, become Son?
5/ What really, is the Holy Spirit, apart from being God's?

Quite frankly I have to drop my pen here, it clearly seems that you guys are seeing this more like an arguement and who wants to win the arguement rather than an expository and once the perception of a matter is wrong then the whole conversation is baseless.

I asked a question to explain the statement of John who said "The one who comes after me is before me" the question was shyd away from and disregarded. You asked questions I answered it, you made a wrong statement that Jesus turned the attention from his mother to the woman and I even quoted two different translation of the Bible to proof that the attention was not shifted from his mother to the woman but from his mother to the word of God. You ddnt even accept it was a mistake but in your defense to win what you perceive as an arguement you veered off a bit. Then you asked 5 questions, I answered it and even gave a full class on Trinity, you ddnt answer the first questions you asked with scriptural backings, while I did, you also ddnt answer the second 5 questions which led us into Trinity, your statements and conclusions have been all about what you think of the matter. No scriptural reference(s)to proof(you quote one line that suits your perspective and sits on it)I gave a full class on Trinity, @Freeradical validated that the Trinity class was deep understanding and clear, your response to it was that it lacked substance. And now you ask another 5 questions again as a defense and if we keep going you will keep asking questions, no answers, no scriptures to back your answers that shows you just want to win bcus you think it's an arguement.

Every point I have made about what you claimed lacked substance contained nothing less than 3/5 different scriptural references.

Conclusion of the Matter
Your perspective or my view of the matter is completely useless, baseless, and chasing after the wind if it doesn't bring you closer to God or establish a relationship with you and your creator, so my question to everyone reading is If you die today, are you a candidate of heaven?
Them you will know that the conversation here, how anyone of US can type or speak good English or memorize scriptures will make no sense if you don't have a relationship with God. Serve God in spirit and in truth and makes your ways straight with him.

I'll love us to be in heaven together and then we take this matter to the one true God, the ageless one and ask for the perfect answer. Let's get the answer from him and let one of USB tell the other you see I told you but at the end of the day we are in heaven and still happy. That's should be the inner peace and joy we should seek.

God bless you, bless everyone who have read and will read, bless his word IJN.
Amen

MuttleyLaff:
I cant you dont understand what transpired in that Luke 11 verses

As Jesus was saying things, a woman in the crowd, after hearing Jesus speak, raised her voice and fascinatedly said:
Blessed is the womb that bore you, and the breasts which you have sucked.
(i.e. woman, in effect, is saying to Jesus, blessed is your mother)

Note that Jesus acknowledged what the woman said, when He responded with yea, as in, it's true, blessed is her being My mother
but then soon after and true to His special modus operandi, Jesus, immediately shifted focus away from His mother unto the woman
and remarked that blessed too, are all, who hear the word of God, just like the woman did and obey it or put it into practice.

If any hear the word of God and obey, they are positioning themselves, to be blessed, like His mother is.

You will conceive in your womb and bear a son; and you are to call His name JESUS
- Luke 1:31

Who mothered the Son of God?



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VyXc8nIN77Y
Teacher: How old is your father?
Kid: He is 6 years
Teacher: What? How is this possible?
Kid: He became father only when I was born



donpy, I hope you enjoyed watching that beautiful video plus reading that teacher-kid Q&A

Now here are five simple questions, I know you easily can answer
1/ When the God, become Father, at what time?
2/ When did God, become Son, at what time?
3/ How did God, become Father?
4/ How did God, become Son?
5/ What really, is the Holy Spirit, apart from being God's?

Correction Bro: Jesus ddnt shift the focus from his mother to the woman he immediately shifted the focus from his mother to God. Luke 11:28 Jesus said More than that, blessed are those who hear the word of God and keep it (NKJV), (MSG) Even more than that blessed are those you hear God's word and guard it with their lives

Seems you ddnt even read my comment for you to still asked this question.
Please read the comment I made that started with I did not deny Mary's motherhood in any way I made some very instructive points there . Thanks


The above illustration quite frankly is very naive and purely logical and only those who haven't transcended beyond logical reasoning will think these points are potent, I explained deeply and asked question on why John said "After me comes a man who is before me"
No one picked that to explain bcus ofcus it's not logical. Jesus also said your father Abraham rejoiced because he saw me, Brinf down this temple (that took 43years to build) and in 3days I'll build it back up.

Trust me bro none of this statements can be explained logically. If not that the Bible helped us to explain that of the temple and put it innbracket that (they did not know he was speaking of his resurrected body as the temple) quite frankly that could be a symposium discussion of what exactly he was speaking of by logical resealing bcus he mentioned the word temple and building back. There is no English meaning of temple or Greek or Hebrew that means a human body.




In my own view I believe the above questions are out of context of the supposed topic of discussion, in the defense of your point I must say you have steered into another topic of trinity.
"the five questions you asked shows clearly that I need to explain in full details the trinity with scriptural references for you to first know who God is, I am sure when you know who God is then you will know who he is not and why time is not a factor to be considered when talking about God.
I pray that God opens you eyes to understand who he is through this writings of understanding trinity IJN. Amen �

TRINITY
How can God be both one and three? Is the Trinity a contradiction? If Jesus is God, why do the Gospels record instances where he prayed to God?
While we cannot fully understand everything about the Trinity (or anything else), it is possible to answer questions like these and come to a solid grasp of what it means for God to be three in one(Even the Bible says we know in parts, we prophesy in parts)
One God, Three Persons

The doctrine of the Trinity means that there is one God who eternally exists as three distinct Persons — the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. Stated differently, God is one in essence[/b]and three in [b]person. These definitions express three crucial truths: (1) the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are distinct Persons, (2) each Person is fully God, (3) there is only one God.
The Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are distinct Persons. The Bible speaks of the Father as God (Philippians 1:2), Jesus as God (Titus 2:13), and the Holy Spirit as God (Acts 5:3–4). Are these just three different ways of looking at God, or simply ways of referring to three different roles that God plays? The answer must be no, because the Bible also indicates that the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are distinct Persons.
For example, since the Father sent the Son into the world (John 3:16), he cannot be the same person as the Son. Likewise, after the Son returned to the Father (John 16:10), the Father and the Son sent the Holy Spirit into the world (John 14:26; Acts 2:33). Therefore, the Holy Spirit must be distinct from the Father and the Son.
In the baptism of Jesus, we see the Father speaking from heaven and the Spirit descending from heaven in the form of a dove as Jesus comes out of the water (Mark 1:10–11). John 1:1 affirms that Jesus is God and, at the same time, that he was “with God,” thereby indicating that Jesus is a distinct Person from God the Father (John 1:18). And in John 16:13–15, we see that although there is a close unity between the three persons, the Holy Spirit is also distinct from the Father and the Son.
The fact that the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are distinct Persons means, in other words, that the Father is not the Son, the Son is not the Holy Spirit, and the Holy Spirit is not the Father. Jesus is God, but he is not the Father or the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit is God, but he is not the Son or the Father. They are different Persons, not three different ways of looking at God.
The personhood of each member of the Trinity means that each Person has a distinct center of consciousness. While Jesus and the Father are both God, they are different Persons. Thus, Jesus prayed to God the Father without praying to himself. In fact, it is precisely the continuing dialogue between the Father and the son that furnishes the best evidence that they are distinct Persons with distinct centers of consciousness.
Sometimes the Personhood of the Father and Son is appreciated, but the Personhood of the Holy Spirit is neglected. Sometimes the Spirit is treated more like a “force” than a Person. But the Holy Spirit is not an “it,” but a “he” (John 14:26; 16:7–15; Acts 8:16). The fact that the Holy Spirit is a Person, not an impersonal force (like gravity), is also shown by the fact that he speaks (Hebrews 3:7), reasons (Acts 15:28), thinks and understands (1 Corinthians 2:10–11), wills (1Corinthians 12:11), feels (Ephesians 4:30), and gives personal fellowship (2Corinthians 13:14). These are all qualities of personhood.
In addition to these texts, the others we mentioned above make clear that the Personhood of the Holy Spirit is distinct from the Personhood of the Son and the Father. They are three persons, not three roles God plays.
Another serious error people have made is to think that the Father became the Son, who then became the Holy Spirit(this is exactly how you think both in the q&a quote and the video you ed that's why you asked when did he become the son and the spirit etc). Contrary to this, the ages we have seen imply that God always was and always will be three Persons. There was never a time when one of the Persons of the Godhead did not exist. They are all eternal.
Let me review something shocking to you now. Gen 22 God asked Abraham to go and sacrifice Isaac in one of the mountains which he specifically mentioned Mount Moriah and then you know the story a lamb appeared. I tell you assuredly, that lamb there was Jesus Christ, that was why he said your father Abraham rejoiced bcus he saw me, now what is very striking is that on the same mount Moriah where Abraham was asked to scarifice is only son, that was where God sacrificed his own son Jesus (Hebrews 13), Jesus was crucified on the same mount Moriah, Same way God even asked David to also raise an alter there in his time, this things are not coincidental, the three of Trinity does not live or exist in time)
While the three of the Trinity are distinct, this does not mean that any is inferior to the other. Instead, they are all identical in attributes. They are equal in power, love, mercy, justice, holiness, knowledge, and all other qualities.
Each Person is fully God. If God is three Persons, does this mean that each Person is “one third” of God? Does the Trinity mean that God is divided into three parts?
The doctrine of the Trinity does not divide God into three parts. The Bible is clear that all three Persons are each one-hundred-percent God. The Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are each fully God. For example, Colossians 2:9 says of Christ, “in him all the fullness of deity dwells in bodily form.” We should not think of God as a “pie” cut into three pieces, each piece representing a Person. This would make each Person less than fully God and thus not God at all. Rather, “the being of each Person is equal to the whole being of God”. The divine essence is not something that is divided between the three persons, but is fully in all three persons without being divided into “parts.”
Thus, the Son is not one-third of the being of God; he is all of the being of God. The Father is not one-third of the being of God; he is all of the being of God. And likewise with the Holy Spirit.
There is only one God. If each Person of the Trinity is distinct and yet fully God, then should we conclude that there is more than one God? Obviously we cannot, for Scripture is clear that there is only one God: “There is no other God besides me, a righteous God and a Savior; there is none besides me. Turn to me and be saved, all the ends of the earth! For I am God, and there is no other” (Isaiah 45:21–22; Isaiah 44:6–8; Exodus 15:11; Deuteronomy 4:35; 6:4–5; 32:39; 1 Samuel 2:2; 1 Kings 8:60).
Having seen that the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit are distinct Persons, that they are each fully God, and that there is nonetheless only one God, we must conclude that all three Persons are the same God. In other words, there is one God who exists as three distinct Persons.
If there is one age which most clearly brings all of this together, it is Matthew 28:19: “Make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit.” First, notice that the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are distinguished as distinct Persons. We baptize into the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit. Second, notice that each Person must be deity because they are all placed on the same level. In fact, would Jesus have us baptize in the name of a mere creature? Surely not. Therefore each of the Persons into whose name we are to be baptized must be deity. Third, notice that although the three divine Persons are distinct, we are baptized into their name (singular), not names (plural). The three Persons are distinct, yet only constitute one name. This can only be if they share one essence.

So if you say Mary is the mother of Jesus you are right. If you say Mary is the mother of God then you are wrong because There is only but one God unless you say Mary is the mother of the Trinity putting her in that state is pure heresy.

I pray God opens the eyes of every reader to revelation of who he is. IJN. Amen �

Thanks for reading

UbiPetrus:
Joseph indeed is the FOSTER father of Jesus and that makes him the FOSTER father of God since Jesus is God.

Sincerely, there is no point if you do not understand the hypostatic union of Christ.

What beats my imagination is that you are so irked at the fact that Mary is the mother of Jesus.

Why does this hurt you badly?

I have not denied Mary's motherhood in any way all I have been saying is to put things in perspective and not to overrate it.
Mary is the mother of Jesus, but Jesus in himself is and has being in two natures a Divine State and a Natural State.
I think this misinterpretation came from the Greek word "Theotokos" you can read your catholic books and even when you type it on google you will see it. The word theotokos was misunderstood completely and was put in the wrong context, if you search for the meaning of theotokos it means Mother of God and that's what Mary is seen as but this is wrong interpretation. Theos means God and Tokos means Bearer. a Greek dictionary if you need to and search for the meaning of bearer you will see Tokus. So Mary is God-bearer, Mary is God-bearer, Mary is God's bearer and not God's mother. I had to repeat that, because this is the origin of this mistake. Mary bore in her a divinely a divine person in a pre-existing state.

Note the process she bore divinely(non-biological bcus the process of conception cannot be defined by natural ) a divine person (otherwise known as Jesus known as God) in a pre-existing state (who was even before the foundation of the world he has been).

UbiPetrus:
You keep trying so hard to deny Mary's motherhood, yet Elizabeth, filled with the Holy Spirit confessed Mary as the mother of her Lord(Jesus), contrary to your opinion.
"And why is this granted to me, that the MOTHER of my LORD should come to me?" Luke 1:43.
She did not say "Why is this granted to me, that the VESSEL of my LORD should come to me."


Do you not see what your CERTAIN LEVEL OF WISDOM AND UNDERSTANDING has done to you?

Whether Jesus' conception and birth obeyed any biological rule is inconsequential.
Mary conceived and gave birth to Jesus and that makes her His mother.
"Behold, the virgin shall conceive and give birth to a son" Isaiah 7:14.

Even the Holy man, Simeon, under the influence of the Holy Spirit, disagrees with you. Hear him:
"Simeon blessed them and said to MARY, his(Jesus') MOTHER: "This child is destined to cause the falling and rising of many in Israel, and to be a sign that will be spoken against..." Luke 2:34.

Let out the bitterness in your heart, brother, and allow the Holy Spirit lead you into all truth.

Pax vobiscum.

Luke 11: 27-28 A woman raised her voice in the crowd and said "Blessed is the womb that bore you and the breast that nursed you"

Now it was obvious that she just saw him cast out unclean spirit and she was moved that's why instead of believing the power of God she was rather excited about the vessel that bore him. Now watch Jesus response to her was very instructive he said
"Rather, blessed are those who hear the word of God and keep it".

Even logical reasoning with this statement of his response tells anyone that it's not of her who bore him but of him was, is and became flesh and dwell amongst men.

If you still don't accept that the statement Mary the mother of God is wrong then please do us a favor and explain this.

Let's use your logical reason

Mary is the mother of Jesus
Jesus is God
If Mary is the mother of Jesus then Mary is the mother of God who is Jesus who is also God.

If Mary is the mother of God
An Jesus is God and you say Mary is the mother of God then Mary is also the mother of the Holy Spirit and God the father.

My question?
Is Mary the mother of the Holy Spirit?
Is Mary the mother of God the father?
Do you believe in Trinity? If yes you believe in trinity

Then Is Mary the mother of the Trinity?
Is Mary the mother of God?

Stay blessed

UbiPetrus:
You keep trying so hard to deny Mary's motherhood, yet Elizabeth, filled with the Holy Spirit confessed Mary as the mother of her Lord(Jesus), contrary to your opinion.
"And why is this granted to me, that the MOTHER of my LORD should come to me?" Luke 1:43.
She did not say "Why is this granted to me, that the VESSEL of my LORD should come to me."



Do you not see what your CERTAIN LEVEL OF WISDOM AND UNDERSTANDING has done to you?

Whether Jesus' conception and birth obeyed any biological rule is inconsequential.
Mary conceived and gave birth to Jesus and that makes her His mother.
"Behold, the virgin shall conceive and give birth to a son" Isaiah 7:14.

Even the Holy man, Simeon, under the influence of the Holy Spirit, disagrees with you. Hear him:
"Simeon blessed them and said to MARY, his(Jesus') MOTHER: "This child is destined to cause the falling and rising of many in Israel, and to be a sign that will be spoken against..." Luke 2:34.

Let out the bitterness in your heart, brother, and allow the Holy Spirit lead you into all truth.

Pax vobiscum.

John 1:45 Jesus of Nazareth- Son of Joseph, Luke being the the son
Luke 1:43 why is it granted to me that the mother of my lord should come to me.

Wrong Logical Reasoning:
With this two verses Mary is the mother of Jesus and since Jesus is the son of God then Mary is the mother of God.

Joseph is the father of Jesus and since Jesus is the son of God then Joseph is the Father of God.

If you lay your points this way then you making a point clear and good point but simply ignorant point.

Sincerely there is no point if you cannot explain what John says in John 1:30 that "After me a man comes a man who is before me"

Being able to explain this statement will justify the level of discernment in the things of the spirit because even if you type that statement it's wrong in English or on any logical scale. "After me one will come who was before me"
(Who was means been in a state of being before him, reason logically you may never tell or be able to know that Jesus was the Lamb that was substituted for Isaac, was the mountain in the wilderness, and hundreds of situations in the old testament that he expressed himself, logical thinking will just tell u it's a ram � that appeared there, and u pick a scripture and naively explain it using ur intellect which in itself is a limiting factor.

UbiPetrus:
This goes on to show how very little you understand the Gospels, that is, if there is any understanding at all.

Again,
And why is this granted to me, that the mother of my Lord should come to me?" Luke 1:43.

The one who was born of the virgin was the only begotten son of the father.
He was true God and true man.
There never was a time he stopped being God. Not even at the moment of the incarnation.

He was called "IMMANUEL" - "GOD WITH US" even before the incarnation.

Trust me you need a level of wisdom and understanding to conceive this concept because it transcends beyond logical reasoning.
John 1:30- this is he of whom I said "After me comes a man who is preferred before me, for he was before me"
If you can understand this statement you will get the point in my last message. John said after me comes a man, who actually was before me. Logically this is wrong english because how will he be after him and still before him? Now you see why I said his spirit and soul eternal but his flesh mortal,and man comprises of Spirit,Soul and Body.
John 1:45- we found him of whom Moses in the law and also the prophets wrote- Jesus of Nazareth- the son of Joseph.
Now Jesus was referred as the son of Joseph, then why isn't Joseph also seen as the Father of God? Since the Bible declared Jesus as his son.

Jesus birth ddnt obey biology rules, thus it is wrong statement to call Mary the mother of God. The reality is that Jesus has been expressed thousands of times even in the Old Testament from the beginning. No woman can conceive without obeying the laws of biology, even with the power of God Sarah conceived but not without Abraham bcus that's a principle. Mary Conceived Jesus by the word of God, she was only a vessel and in no way a mother of God.

Before you react to this using your logical reasoning explain how someone will come after someone and still be before someone. (John 1:30) break it down then we can start talking from there, if u can't do that, then don't bother replying.
Finally even this my explanation will never be comprehendable to him who has not transcended beyond logical reason.
Stay blessed.

UbiPetrus:

"And why is this granted to me, that the mother of my Lord should come to me?" Luke 1:43.

This, my friend, nullifies your unsolicited for epistle.

I'll suggest you read the post once again.
My point was simply that since the birth of Jesus ddnt the test of biology which is the only activity that can bring about another spirit, soul and body then Mary being the mother of Jesus clarifies that she is only the mother of his body and not his spirit, and soul. soul is the mind, the will and emotion. Jesus was clearly an eternal soul, eternal spirit living in a mortal body.

So when it is written in the bible that Mary the mother of Jesus, just be well informed that it's just the body of Jesus.

Firstly who is a mother to a child?
Biologically a mother is someone you obeyed the law of biology of conception and gave birth to a child.
Other definitions say a mother is a part of a parent that offers direction and parenthood to a child.

Mary's conception ddnt obey the law of biology since Joseph ddnt consummate (have sex) the marriage so can Mary be the mother of Jesus (spirit, soul and body) bcus sex is the only activity known to man that can make another spirit soul and body.
Mary did not even parent the Jesus bcus even at the age of 12, Jesus went out for a long time and was not back and the Bible said when he came back she was worried and he replied and said to her that he went about doing his fathers business.

Even with Paul's level of intellectualism that he wrote so many letters to the churches when he noticed that he was been idolized he comepletly frowned against it. There is only 1 way, 1 truth and no matter the role anyone played to the point of Jesus the relevance starts and end with Jesus. Mary is in no way the mother of God bcus the variables that can become the common denominator to even call her the mother of Jesus, Biologically and Pshycological were not expressed.
So even the statement "Mary mother of Jesus" is a symposium discussion and is questionable then how will Mary mother of God be potent.
The book of Romans also told us that anything you give yourself to as lord, same will lord over you. So if you keep going to a pole every day and saying pOle you are my lord, I worship you for days and months. Trust me in a matter of months you will hear the pOle speak to you(this answers the image of Mary that is being bowed to).

Now for those arguing about the ark and Convenant and also citing bible references here is my response.
Luke 16:16 says the law and the prophets were until John. Now this means that's the law, methods, processes, ideas, ideals, even people, prophets were until john so after John they are not essentially expressed in the same way and manner we use to know or may have read them. So whatever or however Moses, Joshua, etc operated or related in times past before John are right and good for their times but in present times, we are only conforming day after day, brighter and brighter till the perfect day to be like Christ. You can only read the Old Testament to understand some principles about how God works or can work. The book of Hebrews says God who at sunset times in the past spoke to use through the prophets now speaks to us through his son whom he had given the power to become heir of ALL things. Not something's.

God bless you.

ayobase:



I ire your mental disposition to MMM model.

Thanks, I appreciate your sincerity to comment

Kwenty:

Don't mind the scammers. Piuni was a pure scam hiding behind telecom company to rope people in.
How can a genuine telecom company keep preparing to start business since 2016? while other companies has started offering same services Piuni scammers are boasting of and taking them eternity to start.
The guy behind that scam will definitely reap what he sow.

They never intended to start because he was making a lot of money from recruitments.
Look at this http://thepageng.com/2017/09/20/piuni-participants-lose-n6-5bn-david-olowes-mlm-scam/
David Olowe made N6.5b from enrollments, that's massive. If not for his greed why would someone make such huge amount of money and still didn't find a way to develop his own products that will be groundbreaking.
We all know he is not a programmer and the whole puini product line is not something he developed himself or his team, he is just packaging the marketing angle of someone else product which I predict he met the developer while he was at Harvard but definitely the so called developer won't give him the product rights fully, he will prefer to take it to Silicon Valley whre big companies can come and buy it. But David Olowe made just enough money to also have a stake in the entire system if he was wise, but he was so greedy that he now took 13people to Dubai so that more people can enroll and he makes more money.
C'mon my clear take was that he never intended to deliver from the beginning, even the office he rented in Allen was also part of the package for more people to enroll for him to make more money before he shuts down.

Worst part is he keeps saying work is going on that they will come back, c'mon your followers must be insane for them to believe that, work is going on for over a year, you are not a developer or programmer so which work is going on.
Abeg make una go look bush.
See this op now aw she used all her energy and strength to post and travel around all the puini waka saying in 10years time your children will question you for the decisions you made. Now am asking her in just 1years on the decision she made to puini and she is already regretting.

Op don't worry the one that will bless you financially won't stress you this much.

hello Op, wotsup with Piuni just read your thread all through. Shockingly i found the puini.net website domain up for sale for about $600 meaning its either the domain owner has abandoned the domain, or he/she ddnt see it important to renew the domain. Now whre does this leave the over 60,000 people who enrolled with the Puini system?

Buy directly from owner and not agents

Buy directly from owner and not agent

1 acre of Land for Urgent sales at Ojoo village, after Federal University of Agriculture Abeokuta (FUNAAB), Alabata road.

Land can be used as a farm land or other Agricultural Purpose and while holding on to the fast development of hostels along this road.

For those who have no knowledge of this area, this is the permanent site of the federal university of agriculture Abeokuta so the development of hostels around the school have been rapid in past years.

Currently, the school gate is filled with over 1000 hostel accommodation filling up Kofesu village which is the settlement directly opposite the school gate.

Afterwards going down Alabata road the next settlement is Agbede village (which now have few hostels present and many under construction). immediately after Agbede village is Ojoo village where Land is located.

I bought the land while I was schooling at Funaab then Unaab years ago.

I currently reside in Lagos and not in Abeokuta, interested buyers in Lagos can meet with me anywhere in Lagos mainland prior to visitation of the land.

Buyer will be introduced to the Baale of the Village who is a close friend of mine and I brought a lot of my people both in Lagos and Abroad to invest in this village.

If you through my profile year back to 2013, I d lands for sale around this domain when I was still a student there.

You can buy and make money from any agricultural purpose you use for, or like me buy and sell later in plots because once the Hostels in Agbede increases, the next point of call is Ojoo village.
A plot of land in Kofesu village/Harmony estate now goes for N2m and above and available lands are about 10-15mins walk inside.
Plots of land in Agbede currently is at N1.2m for those close to the road.

Asking Price - N1.8m (slightly negotiable for serious buyers only)

Interested buyers me directly
On whatsapp or call on
08166070590
Paul Show

Note:
I am currently working in Lagos now.

1 acre of Land for Urgent sales at Ojoo village, after Federal University of Agriculture Abeokuta (FUNAAB), Alabata road.

Land can be used as a farm land or other Agricultural Purpose and while holding on to the fast development of hostels along this road.

For those who have no knowledge of this area, this is the permanent site of the federal university of agriculture Abeokuta so the development of hostels around the school have been rapid in past years.

Currently, the school gate is filled with over 1000 hostel accommodation filling up Kofesu village which is the settlement directly opposite the school gate.

Afterwards going down Alabata road the next settlement is Agbede village (which now have few hostels present and many under construction). immediately after Agbede village is Ojoo village where Land is located.

I bought the land while I was schooling at Funaab then Unaab years ago.

I currently reside in Lagos and not in Abeokuta, interested buyers in Lagos can meet with me anywhere in Lagos mainland prior to visitation of the land.

Buyer will be introduced to the Baale of the Village who is a close friend of mine and I brought a lot of my people both in Lagos and Abroad to invest in this village.

If you through my profile year back to 2013, I d lands for sale around this domain when I was still a student there.

You can buy and make money from any agricultural purpose you use for, or like me buy and sell later in plots because once the Hostels in Agbede increases, the next point of call is Ojoo village.
A plot of land in Kofesu village/Harmony estate now goes for N2m and above and available lands are about 10-15mins walk inside.
Plots of land in Agbede currently is at N1.2m for those close to the road.

Asking Price - N1.8m (slightly negotiable for serious buyers only)

Interested buyers me directly
On whatsapp or call on
08166070590
Paul Show

Sold please