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In all of this, you didn't even condemn your brothers cheating behavior but only interested in his money that he didn't give you. Mehn so sad... the moral com of many Nigerians is truly broken.

Something does not sound right here

Thus is a very important article and I that suggest every Christian should read this.

Seun

Happy Sunday!
I have been patient about putting this out there, hoping that the noise about tithing will come to an end but it seems like many people especially false prophets do not want to repent and give it a rest.

Now this we must note, as christians we are instructed to give cheerfully in 2nd Corinthians 9:6-7. The point is this: whoever sows sparingly will also reap sparingly, and whoever sows bountifully[a] will also reap bountifully. 7 Each one must give as he has decided in his heart, not reluctantly or under compulsion, for God loves a cheerful giver.

Please note that according to the next verses, this giving is for the benefits of the saints( which are the saved in Christ i.e Your fellow saved church /Christians who have NEEDS/pastor/maintaining of the church WHEN NECCESSARY).

Why this makes sense is that it will prevent the leadership of the church FROM growing too large that they forget what they are called to do and focus on material things like building bigger and bigger churches or driving the best cars or living in mansions like kings when some christians in their church can barely feed.

Give as much as you want or as little as you want depending on your heart. It's not forced but be wise as a serpent and gentle as doves.

The highlighted part below sheds more light on Tithes.
This write up is from the Catholic encyclopedia which says that it was spontaneous offering of the faithful and not mandated for the early Christians. Read on and you'll see how the Tithe was now instituted. You can look it up and hopefully they don't remove it soon.

https://www.newadvent.org/cathen/14741b.htm

TITHES.
Anglo-Saxon teotha, a tenth).

Generally defined as "the tenth part of the increase arising from the profits of land and stock, allotted to the clergy for their or devoted to religious or charitable uses". A more radical definition is "the tenth part of all fruits and profits justly acquired, owed to God in recognition of his supreme dominion over man, and to be paid to the ministers of the church".

The custom of giving tithes reaches back into unknown antiquity. It is mentioned in Genesis 14, without anything to indicate that it was something newly instituted. Just as Abraham is there represented as offering tithes of the spoils of the enemy to the royal priest, Melchisedech, so in Genesis 28, Jacob is recorded as giving a tithe of all his possessions to the Lord. Under the Mosaic Law the payment of tithes was made obligatory. The Hebrews are commanded to offer to God the tenth part of the produce of the fields, of the fruits of the trees, and the firstborn of oxen and of sheep (Leviticus 27:30; Deuteronomy 14:22). In Deuteronomy there is a mention not only of an annual tithe, but also of a full tithe to be paid once every three years. While it was to God Himself that the tithes had to be paid, yet we read (Numbers 18:21) that He transfers them to His sacred ministers: "I have given to the sons of Levi all the tithes of Israel for a possession, for the ministry wherewith they serve me in the tabernacle of the covenant." In paying the tithe, the Hebrews divided the annual harvest into ten parts, one of which was given to the Levites after the first-fruits had been subtracted. This was partitioned by them among the priests. The remainder of the harvest was then divided into ten new parts, and a second tithe was carried by the head of the household to the sanctuary to serve as a sacred feast for his family and the Levites.
If the journey to the temple was unusually long, money could be substituted for the offering in kind. At the triennial tithe, a third decimation was made and a tenth part was consumed at home by the householder with his family, the Levites, strangers, and the poor. This triennial year was called the year of tithes (Deuteronomy 26:12). As the tithes were the main of the priests, it was later ordained that the offerings should be stored in the temple (2 Chronicles 31:11). It is to be noted that the custom of paying sacred tithes was not peculiar to the Israelites, but common to all ancient peoples. In Lydia a tithe of cattle was offered to the gods; the Arabians paid a tithe of incense to the god Sabis; and the Carthaginians brought tithes to Melkarth, the god of Tyre. The explanation of why the tenth part should have been chosen among so many different peoples is said to be (apart from a common primitive revelation) that mystical signification of the number ten, viz., that it signifies totality, for it contains all the numbers that make up the numerical system, and indeed all imaginable series of numbers, and so it represents all kinds of property, which is a gift of God. All species of property were consequently reckoned in decades, and by consecrating one of these parts to God, the
proprietor recognized the Source of his goods. However, the payment of tithes was also a civil custom. They were payable to the Hebrew kings and to the rulers of Babylon, and they are mentioned among the Persians, Greeks, Romans, and later the Mohammedan.

In the Christian Church, as those who serve the altar should live by the altar (1 Corinthians 9:13), provision of some kind had necessarily to be made for the sacred ministers. In the beginning this was supplied by the spontaneous offerings of the faithful. In the course of time, however, as the Church expanded and various institutions arose, it became necessary to make laws which would insure the proper and permanent of the clergy. The payment of tithes was adopted from the Old Law, and early writers speak of it as a divine ordinance and an obligation of conscience. The earliest positive legislation on the subject seems to be contained in the letter of the bishops assembled at Tours in 567 and the canons of the Council of Maçon in 585. In course of time, we find the payment of tithes made obligatory by ecclesiastical enactments in all the countries of christendom. The Church looked on this payment as "of divine law, since tithes were instituted not by man but by the Lord Himself" (C. 14, X de decim. III, 30). As regards the civil power, the Christian Roman emperors granted the right to churches of retaining a portion of the produce of certain lands, but the earliest instance of the enforcement of the payment of ecclesiastical tithes by civil law is to be found in the capitularies of Charlemagne, at the end of the eighth century. English law very early recognized the tithe, as in the reigns of Athelstan, Edgar, and Canute before the Norman Conquest. In English statute law proper, however, the first mention of tithes is to be found in the Statute of Westminister of 1285. Tithes are of three kinds: predial, or that derived from the annual crops; mixed, or what arises from things nourished by the land, as cattle, milk, cheese, wool; and personal or the result of industry or occupation. Predial tithes were generally called great tithes, and mixed and personal tithes, small tithes. Natural substances having no annual increase are not tithable, nor are wild animals. When property is inherited or donated, it is not subject to the law of tithes, but its natural increase is. There are many exempted from the paying of tithes: spiritual corporations, the owners of uncultivated lands, those who have acquired lawful prescription, or have obtained a legal renunciation, or received a privilege from the pope.

At first, the tithe was payable to the bishop, but later the right ed by common law to parish priests. Abuses soon crept in. The right to receive tithes was granted to princes and nobles, even hereditarily, by ecclesiastics in return for protection or eminent services, and this species of impropriation became so intolerable that the Third Council of Lateran (1179) decreed that no alienation of tithes to laymen was permissible without the consent of the pope. In the time of Gregory VIII, a so-called Saladin tithe was instituted, which was payable by all who did not take part personally in the crusade to recover the Holy Land. At the present time, in most countries where some species of tithes still exist, as in England (for the Established Church), in Austria, and , the payment has been changed into a rent-charge. In English-speaking countries generally, as far as Catholics are concerned, the clergy receive no tithes. As a consequence, other means have had to be adopted to the clergy and maintain the ecclesiastical institutions (see CHURCH MAINTENANCE), and to substitute other equivalent payments in lieu of tithes. Soglia (Institut, Canon, II, 12) says "The law of tithes can never be abrogated by prescription or custom, if the ministers of the Church have no suitable and sufficient provision from other sources; because then the natural and divine law, which can neither be abrogated not antiquate, commands that the tithe be paid." In some parts of Canada, the tithe is still recognized by civil law, and the Fourth Council of Quebec (1868) declared that its payment is binding in conscience of the faithful.

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mediclife1987:


You initially started making sense but just derailed after you started quoting scriptures and went on an indoctrination.

How many people has the scriptures ruled over and stopped them from fornicating, commiting adultery or being corrupt.

Africa is the most God controlled country yet the most corrupt and impoverished on earth.

How has the Scriptures you've been quoting since "controlled" people into doing the right thing? Or are the poor atheists to be blamed for this too?

Jokers

The fact that you still do not understand what was written means I need to add more clarifications.

A lot of people in Nigeria/ Africa/ world who profess to be Christians, Unfortunately are not. When you read the Bible you'd see that it's well written out there for all to see. Non-less the fact that they think they are Christians make a majority of them keep to the commands of the word with hope that it will be their saving grace but it will not until they truly repent and believe in the Lord Jesus Christ. That keeping of the commands of Gods word with the presence of the Holy spirit creates a semblance of calmness and order in the society which if entirely removed will instantly create total disorder of chaos, for who will say to the other 'you have done wrong' when his wrong is right to him.

Deep question, even though no one prays to experience this. Only God can give one the grace to forgive and move ahead.

This story get as e be! Did he later travel or not?
If your port and visa is damaged can't it be retrieved? Cause I no understand this one o.

Very suspicious. Do they know something we don't? 🤔

Just say you want to claim properties or extort the land owners again just as you all introduced renewing every year the proof of ownership for vehicles.

Omo x 1000.

This is so scary and heads should roll for this. The president should never allow this slide, the masses and media outfits should never allow this slide. This is an attack on every individual of this nation and the Sovereignty of this nation.

This is just unbelievably terribly to say the least.

This cracked me up😂😂😂😂

If you use your Naira , the foreign currency will be converted to naira at the official rate when it gets to your . i.e official rate maybe 920 black market rate maybe 1200. So it's up to you.

I wonder where this is written in the Bible for Christians to abide by?

False prophets have people literally in chains.

Lol

Wow. But their ratings on Google seems very high. Are there others who can collaborate this experience?

Na wah, . This is becoming worrisome. So many US planes have crashed on just training of late and I hope it's not sabotage.

Turning to My Lord and Savior Jesus Christ totally Changed the direction of my life and at that point I asked my self why I wasted so much to time to make that decision. It has been the best decision for me so far and I thank God for Saving me.

Totally agree. Had the same experience with them, wasted my time and eventually didn't issue the visa and they'll not even tell you why they didn't issue. Their process needs overhauling if you ask me.

Wow. All I can say is wow

If found and is guilty, let her face the outcome.

But does the law permit of a family to be held able for the crime of one of them?

It's totally against the law. This is usually done in Nigeria and I don't understand why! Infact the police operations book is even against it but they are the first to always arrest family of a wanted criminal.

Interesting.

Legit

Omo never knew this man is going senile!

Someone said it's a general ban! Well...

Seun:
It's been a pleasure serving all of you since 2005!

Happy birthday Seun. Thank you for such a wonderful forum it has been a blessing to many. Also please to put Jesus Christ first today and always. It's the best decision one will ever make

AndroidAI:

The fact that you are lying to defend yourself proves it. Your mind can never be changed. Keep dreading hell. What a sad way to live.

Most people think because 'they' feel this way, therefore everyother person would feel the same. So they judge not based on the truth but based off of emotions. I do not feel the dread of hell that you mention now unfortunately. You can choose to believe or choose to hold on to what you feel is true.

Hopefully this will help you differentiate BTW true Christians and false Christians. Shalom.

AndroidAI:


The fear of hell is what have kept you stuck in this mental prison. I hope you break free. If not, my sympathy remains with you. To help you, take some time to learn about the carrot and stick technique and how it is used to create a cult or religion. That's if you are intelligent enough to see the patterns and ask questions, which I highly doubt. Lemme ask a question: if your god is all knowing, that means before you were born, he already knows if you will be in heaven or hell. If he knows that someone will go to hell, why allow them to be born in the first place? He tested Abraham. If he was all knowing and already knows the outcome of the test, what use is the test? If he was all knowing, he already knows that Adam and Eve will eat of the fruit of good and evil despite his warning. In fact, he already knows that by creating Adam and Eve, he will end up bringing untold suffering, pain and death, yet he went ahead. There are a lot of inconsistencies and contradictions that proves that he is not all knowing at all. In fact, when he regretted creating humans (Gen 6:6) and sending forth a flood, it defects his all knowing status. That's not a god. That's a character used to keep dumb people under control. You have to be specially dumb to know of these inconsistencies and contradiction and still remain mentally caged because you are afraid of hell.

Maybe you should first show me where I mentioned being afraid of hell as a reason for being a Christian .

absoluteSuccess:


You have been sold brother, Christianity is not the first religion, meaning people before Christ would be damned for living before the Christian era, which is no crime of theirs but God's who was caught unprepared for the people he would subsequently want to save.

That's a bad position to put God, as long as he's all knowing. Instead, the one true God made Christ atonement for sin, you can always have thousands of religion with their concepts of salvation in any part of the world. But here's the one that point to a universal Creator.

If that makes a difference, that's the selling point." Heaven and hell" were infiltrations of latter time into the faith: Christ, like the Pharisees believed in resurrection of the dead. Hell fire is much later inventions into the faith.

If God is loving, and he promised not to destroy the earth with water, had he suddenly become victim of mood-swing to want to destroy the same earth with fire? Meaning, he would have even threatened atomic bomb had that been invented at the Bible times.

God will save the upright and purify the earth, he needed not keep some people in flames for eternity to proof what point exactly, His Almightiness? He's Almighty for what he has done, not whatever anyone says he will do. That to me is the core of true religion.

Punishment is in the realm of man. Forgiveness and reward belongs to God. There's no point being godly out of dread, but out of true love of God and the marvelous things he has done. If you choose Christianity for this hope, so be it.

Christianity is not the first religion and there is a reason for that which is because Christ's coming to earth to save mankind made those who put their trust in him Christians. If you read the Bible you'll see the how those who were born before Christ's coming will be saved. It's right there in the book, read it please. Heaven and hell were not infiltrations. Infact the Lord Jesus Christ spoke the most about hell compared to all the prophets in the bible. And like I've said before I am definitely not Godly out of dread but out of live of what he did for me.

I'll give you a not so perfect illustration but hopefully you'll get the point. please read.

If you are a developer and you have designed and app like Facebook given it intrusions all encoded in the app with capabilities to learn like AI and to update when there's an available upgrade. And then you notice that the app you designed and allowed to do Facebook, decides to do Snapchat and refuses to update so as to be rectified. Will I call you wrong for deleting the app? Are you not the owner? Will you not do as it pleases you to what you designed? If you who is mere motal can take such decisions on what you made why think that God who has made you for His purpose should listen to you and your desires to go the way you like?

LikeAking:


Stop lying agianst China.

Really!!!

AndroidAI:


Where am I heading? To hell? To everlasting suffering if I don't believe in God? I thought you said hell isn't the reason you believe, but you just proved that it is. You are a Christian because you were programmed from birth by your christian parents or society. If you were born in Pakistan, you probably would have become a jihadist with bombs strapped on your chest and ready to die for Allah Dey play

If you do not repent and believe in Jesus Christ then you have chosen hell. Even the Bible tells us that we are all heading there but a way of escape has been made for those who decide to escape. So the point is that hell is what we all deserve. Go to Pakistan/do a little research and see the level of conversions going on there and other Muslim countries and they willing to die for the gospel they have received. You think majority of Nigerians are Christians because we have a lot of churches right! Well wrong. I was born in a Christian home went to church for over 20 years but if I had died then I'd be cast away. So going to Church does not in any way make you a Christian. Renew your mind.

AndroidAI:


You are gone. There's no longer hope for you. A goner you are. Beyond redemption. That is what indoctrination does. My sympathy is with you.

Like I said earlier. I rather be gone this way than be gone in the way you are headed. I really wish you have an idea of what indoctrination means. You'd be shocked at how deep you are in it.