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Citizens can be accused but policemen can't? What's the purpose of the arrest?

saddler:
@WriterNG....more like you feed on bad news of US air crashes.

The question is, why all the crashes

mustwork:
They will deceive enemies that will underate them . Go head to head with them and regret your action

Are you drunk or simply deluded?

Come online to issue statements while calling on Netanyahu to carry on. Only the fools can be deceived

peculiar3:
...which person in his right senses publicly attacks a uniform person and expects applause.... irrespective of their short comings atimes, they actually deserve our gratitude for their numerous sacrifices for the peace and freedom we enjoy as citizens...... If you're in doubt of their contributions visit a war torn country, you'll appreciate their efforts more

God punish you for this senseless comment

huptin:
It's easier to steal money in America than spend it ...they follow money trail very closely. Once you start lavishing money anyhow they will trace you and get you arrested.

If that was the case, all Americans would be in jail. They're all involved in one type of scheme or the other

I was right in that hall last night. Was indeed a wonderful night

Kano is only influencer in Election rigging. What is th3 contribution of Kano to Nigeria? Either in Human capital resources or natural resources

It's psychological. The fear is as a result of all the fake miracles and concocted exploits they hear people peddle around the country. He destroyed gathering of world witches, strike witches, do this, do that bla bla bla. These stuffs are psychological.

Are those different roads? All those bad and smelly roads were in one city? Like actually

Soldiers have been emboldened. The people shouting against military rule, what is the difference between this and military rule?

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WhiZTiM:
Yes it's possible to steal from your .
Even without knowing the , some clever social Engineering can supply the attacker all details to steal.

These days, your phone is your second identity, especially when it's part of your multifactor authentication on several platforms.

what do you mean?

bigfrancis21:


That's not the point. Imagine the height of confusion the world would have been in today if everyone speaks one language and claims another ethnicity. For example, you come across De Santos Rivera who speaks Spanish as first language and practices Hispanic culture but he tells you he's not Hispanic but French because 100 years ago his great-grand father came from . De Santos speaks no lick of French neither has he been to before but claims he's a French man. Then you go to and everyone is denying being French but claiming Portuguese, English etc over some migrations that occurred hundreds of years back.

In reality it doesn't work that way. This issue of migrations into/out of Igboland is not unique to the Igbo people. A LOT of migrations occurred in the past, amongst different ethnic groups. People crossed language borders and settled in new-found lands and adopted their new identity. Living in the identity of the past of over 500 years ago, especially given that the migrating ancestors willingly left their original origins and adopted new ones for reasons best known to them then but forgotten/unknown to us today, would be considered folly. For simplicity's sake, the culture/ethnicity you identify with today is what you are classified with.

Reverting to my original comment, the preference for some Ikas and Ukwuanis to maintain their sub-clan identity obtained all over Igboland as recently as 100 years ago. The Awka man was Awka, not Igbo. The Aro man was Aro not Igbo. The Owerri man was Owerri, not Igbo. Infact Igbo-speaking slaves, upon being shipped to the Americas between the 1600s and 1800s, were surprised to arrive here and were called 'Ibo', most of them itted that they had never heard of such name or country back home and all they knew was their village names. Slave ship manifests show Igbo-speaking slaves arriving from the Port of Bonny or Calabar giving their respective clan names as their 'identity', i.e oquelle (okwelle in Imo state), aqoqua (akokwa in Imo state), aeche (Etche in Rivers state), Isigue (Isigwe), esuotchi (isuochi) etc. No slave mentioned 'Ibo' as their identity. Looking at us from a vantage point of view the British, upon arrival, discovered that we all spoke variations of basically the same language, regardless of prior origins and the umbrella name for all bia-speaking clans is Igbo. Yes, in Anioma many migrants came in from Bini to settle and totally adopted their new culture and language, however there were Igbo-speaking natives already present in Anioma, which ensured that Igbo language prevailed over the migrants' language (s). The theory that 'Igbos crossed the Niger and displaced our original language, that's why we speak Igboid-based dialects' is as laughable as it comes. Even in the world of academia and taxonomy, there's a general name for everything and then sub-names. Chicken, Duck, Parrot, Turkey etc are all birds but it doesn't stop each sub-category of the bird category to have/maintain their respective names.

I guess the question we should be asking is, why did many fleeing from other tribes head east to Igboland in times of trouble? Igboland experienced tons of influx of migrants from neighbouring tribes than vice versa. For example, migrants from Igala (in Nsukka), Idoma (Ebonyi state), Yoruba (Delta/Olukwumi), Esan (Delta state), Ibibio (Abia state), etc. Was Igboland in the past relatively peaceful, obviously due to a lack of a central kingship system, with plentiful arable land for cultivation that it attracted an influx of fleeing/migrating from other tribes?

Where is Igbo land? You better wake up and smell the coffee? Your expansionist dreams are dead on arrival. Why is this too difficult for you guys to understand? Ika and Anioma has much more to gain than lose if they adopt the Igbo tag, but we're not willing to sacrifice our identity over a pot of porridge. You guys need to know that you're on the offensive and this isn't good for our peaceful coexistence. You guys have to give up your expansionist agenda if you want peace in the South. Else I don't see the difference between you guys and the Fulani people still nursing the dreams of colonising their neighbors in this 21st century. And what you're doing can be likened to what the Russians are doing to the Ukrainians claiming that the Ukrainian language is not a language but a dialect of the Ukrainian language and derogatorily term the Russian language "peasant Russian". What you guys are doing is an infringement and I implore you guys to desist from it. This might breed bad blood. People's heritage is something very delicate you shouldn't toy with. You might think some ikas feign indifference or are pro Igbo when they're doing business with you, majority of Ikas are seriously against being given an identity he doesn't approve of.

morpheus24:

This statement just nullifies the rest of the rant below.



The point here that you are trying to present is that in the past it was Edoid and got "replaced' by Igbo. Laughing in IKA language. How did it get replaced and by "whom". The best you can get out of your ranting here is that as Ika people you are a hybrid "race" of peoples between Igbo and Edo immigrants which does not negate my initial assertion, therefore if IGBO claim you, they are correct in doing so.




The sentence formation and Lexicon is very Igbo so much so that an average Igbo person would probably understand about 50% of what an IKA person is saying and vice versa. Your language was not replaced it mutated from an original Igbo dialect that was isolated for a good period of time.


The onus is not on me to prove you descend from direct Igbo migrants or settlers but for you to disprove it. My assertions are based on comparisons to other such phenomena in Africa and a probability of likely hood.

All Southern Nigerians are likely related to each other genetically. The point is to prove that the IKA are related to the Igbo far more so than any other surrounding group in the area including Edo peoples. Tell your people to take the tests so we can resolve this issue. Stop telling us about folktales your old people have been ing around as origin stories.



Yes, you should because there are now more sophisticated and modern methods of determining origins outside of folktales or better stil reexamine them using new information that is obtainable. Linguistics is just one indicator, DNA is indisputable.

As regards the single Agbor man's DNA results, well it will depend on his place of immediate origin, his family origins etc, however if you take a general DNA sample of all or most Agbor men there will be a definitive cluster of genetic relationship enough to determine with certainty their affiliation or non affiliations with groups around them.

DNA is like that it can trace how close or far away your ancestors are, but unfortunately you will continue with this socio-political commentary about your identity because you really deep down inside do not want to know the truth.

Self determination does not require fabrications of origins.



We are Ika people. We know our history and where each clan came from. Each clan knows where the Ogbes that makes up the clan came from and each ogbe know the origin of all the Idumus and Ebons that makes up that Idumu.

I'll ignore you from now on since you're not ready to learn.

Nigeria is in trouble. Real big trouble

morpheus24:



1. About Language. Acculturation and language shifts have little to do with phonetics, lexicon and sentence formation in particular of the IKA LANGUAGE. It is without a doubt that languages that are similar to each other within a given proximity point to high probabilities of a "source" founder population, butressed with DNA evidence, it is safe to assume that the two groups are SIGNIFICANTLY related to one another in comparison to other surrounding groups.



This is very evident in many African examples with many southern African and Bantu groups exhibiting this particular linguistic phenomena.

Case in Point. Ndebele, Zulu, Swati and Xhosa are all distinct languages of their own but without a doubt emanate from an original source Language from Nguni, their founding father. Most of these Nguni languages are also heavily influenced by the click sounds of the Khoi speakers, further pointing to the fact that the Khoi were heavily absorbed genetically into these aformentioned gropus. DNA evidence corroborates this hypothesis.


2. If you are so confident about your NON IGBO lineage why don't you take the test and come post the results here. 23 and me is a great one. It will break down the results of your ethnic affinity in Nigeria. When you confirm you can come back and call me S.T.U.P.I.D I will accept.

You can dance around acculturation, folk tales, My grandfather told us we are from here and there, etc etc etc, However DNA does not lie.!

Another dumb one. You seem to know very little or nothing about Ika language. Although Ika language is an IGBOID language, it has a very different intonation and the inflection is edoid. Do you know about Ika language formation? I doubt you don't. Ika language syntax is very different from other Igboid group. Talk about lexicon and I agree Ika lexics is very Igbo presently. and you actually didn't make any point your reply. If language shift doesn't have much with everything you listed up there, what then does it have something to do with? Common sense should tell you the first part of the language that language shift should attack is the lexicon.

Within the last century, do you have any idea how many ika words that have been replaced with Igbo words? Even within the last few decades, I witnessed the death and replacement of hundreds of Ika words which I can list here if I have time. Most of these words are Edo/Edoid or exclusively Ika words which today nobody uses them in ikaland. The Igbo variant of it is now being used. I believe you're intelligent enough to understand some of the factors that is contributing to the shifting of Ika words from the original Edo/Ika variant to the Igbo variant.

And you're referring to DNA evidence like you already have a DNA evidence at hand. Who's denying any relationship between Ika and Igbo? Yoruba, Edo, Igala and Igbo are from the same parent so what exactly is your point here?

So I should discard my folktales (which are basically Edo based stories of Ogiso and Adhuaran/Aruans giant sons of Ogiso) and other ancient factors and dwell solely on the language factors which I'm sure you know nothing about? And how ignorant you appear here still talking about DNA. Do you think an Agbor man from a certain quarter would have exactly the same DNA with another from a different quarter? Height of ignorance.

We are Ika people. We know our history and where each clan came from. Each clan knows where the Ogbes that makes up the clan came from and each ogbe know the origin of all the Idumus and Ebons that makes up that Idumu.

morpheus24:


The evidence is in the linguistic, proximal and genetic evidence of these groups who deny the obvious "founder populations" that MOST LIKELY originate from the same founder populations that make up all the groups of igbo's today.

A simple DNA test of an IKA man and an IGbo man would confirm this genetic similarities between the two peoples even if one group seeks to identify ethnically as something else.

DNA does not lie nor does it require an affirmation of "IGBO consciousness". It will clearly show that these two groups are of the same stock.


Are you afraid of the truth. GO and take a DNA test. 23 and me is a good one, it will break down what ethnic group you belong to in Africa

This is a very dumb reply. So you base everything on something as dynamic as language? Have you heard of language shift, languages going extinct, acculturation? These things are dynamic and doesn't make sense to be fixated on them. They're considerable factors quite all right. But if you're not knowledgeable in these stuffs it's good you stand aside and watch. Do you know anything about Ika language how it was spoken few centuries ago, few decades ago and presently? Are you aware of many factors that contributed in this changes?

And you sound dumb again about DNA. Ika WOULD bla bla bla. And you think all Ikas have the same DNA? Why are you commenting on something you're just so ignorant about

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