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Emusan:


Now you're changing mouth.

Was it about understanding or God being a MYSTERY?



The word MYSTERY as translated appeared more than 5 times which include Christ, God e.t.c

Search for that key word and stop being spoonfed all the time.

Where did Paul describe God as a mysterious God?
Did you see in Bible or Papa told you?

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So Apostle Paul is also worshipping a MYSTERIOUS GOD.

OR you didn't read that part from him.


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He was teaching people to worship a God he did not understand?

Where did he call him a mysterious God?

Normally, Hamas and Hezbollah young fighters would have given up this war they don't understand but the thought of losing 72 imaginary virgins in heaven will make them fight to the death

Emusan:


Even husband and wife coming together to be ONE was considered A MYSTERY which Paul even pictures the relationship between Christ and His Church with.

And I'm very sure you believes in this SAME MYSTERY as well.

How much more the mystery OF GOD spoken of many times in the scriptures.

You want to make it sound as if saying God is a MYSTERY is a taboo to the scripture.

Go and worship your mysterious god

We worship who we know John 4:22

NeoWanZaeed:


Even when Islam gain grounds, you can practice your religion in a place islam hasn't gained grounds.

If you're of open heart and willing to know the truth, go to strong hold..learn and ask questions and clear your doubts.

Nothing difficult there

If it were your own case, you'll be crying islamophobia

MaxInDHouse:


I just want him to see for himself that Jehovah totally differs from Allah because worshipers of Jehovah must not kill innocent people but in Islam even adherents do kill one another when two Muslims chose to rule over a community, it has always been politics right from the beginning until now and no Allah is behind it.
Muhammad just wanted to make himself king over Arabia but those rulers caught him in his deceitful moves that's why they put up a fight until he died after they have wiped out all his sons in the process.
After his death his generals too began fighting this time not against idolaters as Muhammad deceitfully brainwashed them but against one another!
The question any intelligent person need to ask is:
Why the fight in the same camp if it was meant to be against paganism?
So there is no Allah Muhammad only used the idea to gain dominance over those who wants to fight for God unknowingly to them that the man used them for his selfish ambition!

I wonder what would have happened if he were alive today
He could have been arraigned by some courts or hunted by some intelligence
Yet, millions of people will loot and kill and destroy

MaxInDHouse:


So if it's not compulsory do you think Muslims will not attack someone who speaks against their religion after accomodating them only for them to gain more adherents of their religion?

Like they did in Lebanon and here in Nigeria in middle belt


They are really coveting the land of Israel simply cos of they special status they have from the Torah

Spreading Islam by terror

MaxInDHouse:


Is it compulsory to be a Muslim in a community where Muslims are the majority?

Deep

Tetraozonaitera:


Correction please!
They are personalities not things.

Like the existence of God is a mystery, the creation of the world from pronounced words is a mystery, the virgin Mary getting pregnant without human intervention is a mystery, the witch falling off my window in the middle of the night when the Holy Spirit woke me up suddenly crying like a bird and seeing me the following morning running back into her house a mystery, so also is the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit being one a mystery.

Why must you find that so hard to comprehend?

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Someone who believes in a mystery or mysteries is trying to teach someone
What a shame!

Tetraozonaitera:


Only One God
Only One Son
Only One Spirit

All are one.

E shock u?

3 different things you mentioned and you say they are one

Is the Son God?
Is God ever addressed as Son?

Tetraozonaitera:



My brother all your points are Valid. They are true pointers to the fact that Jesus though the son of God, is God his father.
It is a mystery that cant be questioned like the existence of God almighty.

One problem with JW is, they have been programmed not to be able to reason beyond what WatchTower gives them. Thus, if Watchtower wakes up tomorrow and say they now realize that Jesus's relationship with God is more than of a creature, they all will follow like robots.
If the Watchtower says Jesus is no more Angel Michael, all JW world over with start believing so and leave the old belief. Their minds are programmed.

This is why they are fobbiden to listen to any sermon outside their sect or read Christian tracts. But they go about shoving Awake and Watchtower magazines on people.

They cant reason beyond watchtower instructions.

In a nutshell, your points are valid.

How many God are there?

MaxInDHouse:


Abeg tell him o, i just don't know why he keeps tagging me with his useless posts and the funny thing is he will just vanish when you choose to engage him in a discussion leaving the thread as if he doesn't know why he tagged you in the first place!

Like a son who finds every reason to identify himself with a cultists and want to do so to humiliate his entire family. That's what he is

Should we weep and beg him
Let him identify with his stupid friends and insanity peddlers

When Satan starts to urinate into an apostate's head?

Is Jesus God or equal to God? Trinitarians cannot answer
They say both are correct
How?
God is a mystery

Shame on you Sand2022

Don't ever mention me again

Sand2022:
Proving The Deity of Christ with .

Acts 7
As they were stoning Stephen, he made this appeal: “Lord Jesus, receive my spirit.” 60 Then, kneeling down, he cried out with a strong voice: “Jehovah, do not charge this sin against them.” And after saying this, he fell asleep in death."

Verse 59 is clearly a pra6yer to Jesus to receive his spirit. Does the bible not tell us that after we die, the spirit returns to God who made it? But now Stephen is showing through his prayer to Jesus that he, Jesus receives the spirit as well. You keep noticing that almost everything attributed to Jehovah is being done by Jesus as well. That Stephen prayed to Jesus is evident that the early Christians viewed Jesus as God. So when Thomas called him " My Lord and My God", he meant it that Jesus was indeed his God.

Verse 60, Stephen prayed and said 'Jehovah, do not charge this sin against them'. This is another example where the JW leadership shows hatred for Christ deity.

NWT claims that they only import "Jehovah" where there is a quotation from the Hebrew scriptures where the divine name occured. Well, here Stephen is not quoting any Hebrew scriptures. Yet they added "Jehovah" here. Check the JW Interlinear, you will see that what occured here is "Lord", not "Jehovah". The same Lord that occured in verse 59. So Stephen is also here praying to Jesus to forgive his killers. If you want to study Bible, don't use the New World Translation.



Tags: Aemmyjah,

Kindly untag me from your stupid posts

How many Gods then are there? 1 or 2?
Why is Jesus standing at the right hand of God
Why did Jesus tell his disciples that he was going to his God and his father?
Why does he not know about when the end will come but the father?
Why did he say he will ask the father to send the holy Spirit? Does God need any permission from anyone?
Why did he say he has come to do his will father's will


Simple logic Paul used

The head of the Woman is the Man
The head of the Man is the Christ
The head of the Christ is God

Is Jesus God?
Is Jesus equal to God?

Why should Jesus receive authority from the Father if he himself was God

Why should at the end of 1000 years subject himself to the Father if he were God


You're not serious
A very big shame on you
Jehovah knows those who belong to him. The precious things of the nations are flocking into Jehovah's mountain. People like you craving selfish independence and able to self to pursue selfish desires cannot shake this mountain. The sting of a scorpion 🦂 can be painful but it is a foolish Scorpion that think it's sting can shake a mountain.

Jehovah's mountain is here to stay
Apostates should wail and gnash their teeth against a rock 🪨

tctrills:

Very good question and your question actually proves what I have been saying. From the early stage Moses and all prophets were pointing the people to Jesus Christ and their sacrifices were performed in similitude to his. So clearly their whole religion was about following Jesus Christ.
One more thing,
Jesus Christ taught that I and my Father are one so it is simply impossible to follow one and not follow the other.
Now if your argument is that people in the Old Testament did not have all the teachings of Christ as we presently do, then you are right but then Isaiah makes us understand
Whom shall he teach knowledge? and whom shall he make to understand doctrine? them that are weaned from the milk, and drawn from the breasts.

10 For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little:

So we expect more revelations as time goes on.

Again the the Book of Hebrew we learn
God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets,

2 Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;

So both in the Old and New Testament, it was the word of God revealed. There is no difference between the word of God and the word of Christ

On the highlighted
Are they the same person or 2 different persons

honesttalk21:
Note too that.

Islam places strong emphasis on preserving family ties and relationships. In the case of marrying your adopted son's divorced wife, it can actually serve to strengthen family bonds rather than break them.

[b]If marrying your adopted son's divorced wife brings about happiness and fulfillment for both parties involved, [/b]then it is considered permissible within the boundaries of Islamic law.

Interesting

Only a lunatic will be happy his father whether biological or adoption marries his wife

Qasim6:



The men are some early Christians they happened to have lived during the time of one of the Roman persecutions, they were trying to hide out in the cave and God caused them to sleep for 300 years and they woke up at a time when Christianity had became the religion of the Roman empire. Many historical Christian documents attested to that, they are venerated in some number of churches.
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Expanse2020:
Prophet Muhammed (PBUH) was and is the greatest man ever walk on earth......

Even the historian, who wrote a book to comply first 100 best man in history acknowledge the fact despite he his a christian
Michael hertz
The book title (the best 100 men to walk on the earth)


Is like you guys debate who is the best goat between M10 and cr7.... After the debate have been seal...

Who was more humanitarian while on earth

tctrills:



The people of the old testament were following God right?
Now Jesus Christ says no man can come up to the Father except through him.
Hence it is impossible to follow the Father without Jesus Christ.
So if you believe that the people of old followed the Father, there you have the answer you are looking for.
The Father and the Son are one. They don't have different followers.
I am sure this gives you the answer you are looking for.
And I appreciate the questions.
I am here to provide answers to your concern on this subject.

Why then did Moses told the people that a prophet greater than him is coming and they should listen to him?
The whole arrangement of burnt and sin offering, the priesthood and the Tabernacle would have made no sense of they were following the Jesus, someone they did not even know

SIRTee15:


I won't let U run away from that question.

Can anybody after Muhammed ask Allah if Muhammed is a true prophet
Will Allah respond?

Engage them in an intellectual debate
Either they run or they show their extremist nature

iamrealdeji:
That's what Christianity does to people. If I was Christian and studied philosophy too,I probably would have been atheist if I hadn't known Islam. Bible and Christianity is full of loopholes and lies that would make a reasonable person think there is no God. How can you tell me a woman got pregnant and gave birth to God and son of God at the same time. Now,that God ate,slept,did everything human does,even once got to a tree he wanted to pluck from and didn't know if there were fruits from which he was expected to know if he was God or God lives in him. That same God reached age 33 and he was held like a criminal and he couldn't rescue himself. Until he was crucified and killed,a whole God that created trillions upon trillions of stars in one galaxy out of uncountable galaxies and a star being bigger than the sun which is 1.3million times bigger than the earth can't save himself from people he created?
He was in Jesus and can't save himself from those people? If I question it,you would tell me I need holy spirit to understand. Anything that is difficult to understand or not straight forward is fake. Whoever wrote this rubbish in bible should be arrested for blasphemy. Christianity is based on blasphemy.
If you claim Prophet Jesus is God's son,can you sacrifice your son to wipe away the sins of some people? Does God need anybody's blood to forgive? God isn't a ritualist, that's blasphemy. The writers of bible stuck the mindset of Idol worship in their brains.
Chief Tele of a prominent town in Nigeria here is sent to carry sacrifice that may be human beings to a forest to wipe away the sins of the people of the community because they're Idol worshippers and that's what they believe in.
There are many Muslim sociologists,philosophers and scientists that stronger in their Islamic faith because there are so many facts in Quran that correlate with science,also Prophet. Muhammad ﷺ 's hadiths and science and numerous numerical miracles in Quran that would make you realize Islam is the only way and make you 100% sure there is God and that's why Islam is world's fastest growing religion.
I don't blame these guys,they would rather stay at home than go to some churches some pastors would collect large part of their hard earned money and they claim it's like that in bible,meaning that business oriented people wrote bible. Now,pastors own Private Jets,Rolls Royces. I've never seen any Imam with Private Jet.
These philosophers don't know what to read out of the very many versions of bible. Christians worship the man they idolize which makes it Idol worship and they would still claim Idol worship is bad,Buddha was a good man like Christ and Buddhism was formed and named after him just like Christianity was named after Christ,it's totally man made and Idol worship. Buddha,Ogun,Jesus,Sango,Ganesha,Krishna worshippers have their statues and pictures they pray to because they're idol worshippers,the others it they're idol worshippers but Christians fail to accept and instead package their faith,that's hypocrisy. Change christians,Jesus was a Prophet of God and not God,he was Muslim because he worshipped one God and never told anybody to call him God,stop reading lies some humans wrote,all major prophets have extraordinary miracles. In fact,Prophet Muhammad ﷺ did more miracles than Prophet Jesus and yet said any body that dares call him God like they did Prophet Jesus is going straight to hell. These are some of his miracles https://islamhashtag.com/15-miracles-of-prophet-muhammad/
Even during the birth of Prophet Muhammad ﷺ,more than 10 great miracles occured that have never been seen.
Christians,change!!!
God Punished Judas by giving him Jesus'appearance because you can't betray God's messenger and go scott-free. Judas was the one that was arrested and crucified,not Jesus. If Shina Rambo and armed robbers can take form of other people,how can't God who owns all the power do that?
Prophet Jesus was never crucified or killed, Allah's great Prophet would never be killed like a chicken like that,God took him to heaven,Prophet Muhammad ﷺ saw Prophet Jesus in heaven when he ascended to heaven to meet God during his Miraj. He even discribed Prophet Jesus' appearance on his return,that's a story for another day.
Muslims even like Prophet Jesus more than Christians do,If you live someone,you act and dress like him,If a Muslim is going to mosque,he would put on Jalabia like Prophet Jesus,a Christian would never wear Jalabia to Church. Muslims wash themselves with water and touch their head on the ground to one God and bow to one God like Prophet Jesus because Prophet Jesus was muslim. Muslims grow their beards like Prophet Jesus,christians would shave it,Muslim women wear hijab like Prophet Jesus'mother but a christian woman would never wear hijab to Church trying to look like Prophet Jesus'mother,all they want from Prophet Jesus' is use him to get to Paradise after so many sins. Lazy people that can't serve God by Praying 5 times a day want shortcut,easy way out. Prophet Muhammad ﷺ went to God and collected 5 daily prayers and God sent Angel Gabriel to him when he got to back to earth to teach him properly and make it more defined and organized than the way previous prophets used to pray it. Christians,try to pray it,be humble,stop singing and dancing and clapping to God,put your heads on the floor for God
God never told anybody to sing and dance because music is devil's instrument,that's why christian women dance with their boobs and ass shaking,giving men erection,God would never be part of that or have anything to do with devil's instrument. You even worship without washing your body,urinate without washing and still pray?God may accept your prayers because he said it in Suratul Fathia. Even wishes of atheists get granted by God. Everything non-muslims do in this world,they would get the rewards in this world,they may get healings,wealth and all that but not in the afterlife.
And yet upon that,Muslims are the richest in history with no much stress because of our powerful Quranic verses. Mensah Musa is the richest man of all time and was Muslim. Prophet Solomon worshipped one God which makes him Muslim. Saudi Royal family are richer than Elon Musk,MBS is richer than Musk,they're muslims. Aliko Dangote is a Muslim,Al-Hassan Dantata was a Muslim.
The Golf Arab countries are the richest regions in the world because they're the places Prophet Muhammad ﷺ was born and spent his life. His blessed self was born in Saudi Arabia,Saudi has Aramco,world's richest company. He stepped his blessed feet around Golf Arabian deserts,his blessings went through to neghboring countries like Dubai,Kuwait,Abu Dhabi,Qatar,Bahrain,Oman,etc
Your worship style and human worship is totally invalid,you're just wasting your money on pastors instead of you to give directly to people as God instructed in Quran. God sent Prophet Muhammad ﷺ to all you human worshippers,Krishna,Buddha,Ogun,Jesus,Sango,etc worshippers to worship only one God. Repent now and stop implicating Jesus before God by calling him God because in Quran,Jesus will get asked by God "Did you tell them to worship you and your mother? and he would say no and deny christians like bad market. If you say Jesus isn't God but you're still a christian,just convert to Islam and pray five times a day to God because that's what Islam is based on,believing there is only one God and Jesus was just a prophet. God said his punishment is very tough and human worshippers are going to hell 🔥🔥🔥🔥,there reward is in this world and their prayers can only get answered in this world because God does that to create a balance. Even atheists get blessed in this world which is very short. But hereafter,God's punishment is severe to human worshippers.
Don't tell me about terrorism and all that. In Islam,If you intentionally kill a human being of any religion,the sin is equal to that of killing the all human beings. All religions have terrorists,Hitler,Napoleon,Josef Stalin,etc were Christians and the biggest terrorists ever.
Don't tell me about Prophet Muhammad ﷺ marrying a lady so young,bring a verse that says that in Quran which is the only scripture of Islam. Hadith writers are humans,there are many incorrect s of hadiths and even if Prophet Muhammad ﷺ married a young lady,it's Common in those days for men to marry young ladies and those ladies grew way more mature than ladies of now and even prophet didn't have anything with her,he left her to mature enough before anything. Mary had Jesus at age 12.
Most christian teenage girls are on family planning already today and already turned to harlots before age 15 because they marry late. The Chrisland girl is just 10 years and from a good Christian home.
*Islam is world's fastest growing religion according to google.
*Prophet Muhammad ﷺ was named as the most influential and greatest man to ever exist according to google and several christian authors.
*Prophet Muhammad can solve all the problems of this world while just drinking a cup of coffee.
*Prophet Muhammad's name is mentioned billions of times daily and he's prayed for by billions of people worldwide daily. If you're hating in him,deal with it, someone who is the greatest is the greatest

Muhammad Deif
Ayatollah
Haniyeh
Prophet Muhammad
Bin Laden

They all used their intelligence and wealth to advance terrorism in imitation of the so called perfect exampler

Contrast with Jesus Christ
Gandhi
Galileo
Isaac Newton


A Muslim billionaire will rather use his billions to kill and destroy and build tunnels without a bomb shelter for the people than to the poor brothers. Why don't Islamic nations receive their Muslim brothers as refugees? Why should nobody tell you about terrorism, is that not hypocrisy? Why should a religion of peace be associated with terrorism all over the world
At October 7th, Muslims all over the world were rejoicing and praising Allah for the gruesome genocidal acts against the Jews in their own land. Later, many lied to fool us into believing that Hamas action does not represent Islam. If so, why don't you condemn them? Why were they crying when Haniyeh died and seeking his revenge as a matyr? Should fellow worshippers revenge a martyr or leave matters to God?

Muhammad will only solve world's problems with violence
He will solve world's medical problems with unscientific means like drinking camel urine
Muhammad is not in the top 10 of worlds most influential people
Regarding Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Kuwait, other lands you mentioned though Islamic are also westernized a little and that is what get the Islamic world really mad. They are oil rich and must welcome a bit of western culture for trade and commerce and tourism. Why don't you mention Afghanistan, Somalia, Iraq, Lebanon and other Islamic lands where there is little or no western civilization or influence.

Hitler, Stalin and Napoleon are not Christians. Even if they were, were they using terrorism to spread Christianity or to establish their empire?

I understand that people can be given out in marriage even before they were born. But how can a man in his 50s, not just a man but a man who calls himself a prophet have sex with a 9 year old girl? That's the biggest example of religious fraud and madness

Show us proof of one example of any person in the Bible marrying at age 12. Mary was not 12. Her words to the Angel and to Elizabeth is not something that a 12 year old could do

Muhammad died by poisoning from a woman that lingered
Can you mention a Muslim that can tell you that his penny has not been used to push Islamic fundamentalism

Mention any miracle of Muhammad. He could not even perform a miracle apart from saying that Koran was itself a miracle

A prophet of God, a true prophet of God will not have all his children die prematurely. We all know that a wicked person, in his dying moments beg and cry to God for mercy and forgiveness and Muhammad is a fine example.
Committed adultery, looted, beheaded, dismembered, mass murderer, pedophile, spread propaganda...

Even in Bible times, Jewish women danced even in the temple. What is wrong with a woman dancing?
If a child has a Muslim Mum and comes home one day and says 'i killed some Jews " or some Christians, she'll be proud of him since his 72 fictional virgins are assured.

Right now, the world is suffering from
1. Earthquakes
2. Pandemics
3. Terrorism (thanks to the fastest growing religion through conquest and uncontrolled birth rate in imitation of the perfect exampler)
4. Climate change

https://nairaland.unblockandhide.com/4444309/art-biblical

This is all your brain could ever produce for the past six and a half years on Nairaland and none got the attention of interested followers that could extend it to a second page.
So if you want to kill yourself on my thread where hundreds of Nairalanders are reading daily it's understandable!

Better ignore that fool
Acting like a parasite 🪱 that needs to attach to something for survival

Are you crying for Osimehn?

OP that is calling Conte mumu and fool should mention 3 current premier League managers that perform better than Conte

Michael547:

So where do you usually meet with other witnesses of Jehovah so that I can you to worship God?

She stays at home with her children
Very funny and confused woman looking for who to share her confusion

MrPresident1:


Are you not a Jehovah witness? They siad that Jehovah witness is from American

Now I understand where you're coming from

Mr Lover of hearsays
Keep listening na

Janosky:

Hebrew 11:17
King James Bible
By faith Abraham, when he was tried, offered up Isaac: and he that had received the promises offered up his only begotten son,


Oga Sand2022, Is Isaac the only begotten son of Abraham his Father?

Jesus is a promised seed, likewise Isaac is a promised seed.
Like wise, Jesus is a creature,the son of God his Father.
Hebrew 11:17 = John 3:16.
No be rocket science.

Cucumber and onions made the children of Israel to have selfish longing


Sand2022 wants to enjoy a false freedom of independence from God and he starts telling himself lies in the guise of research

MrPresident1:


Jesus Christ created everything, including all the ideologies and the delusions

Well
I enjoy living a Christian life
I don't know if others around you
I'm not living a delusional life

MrPresident1:


Are you sure? Quote the place in the Bible

Ephesians 2:20
20and you have been built up on the foundation of the apostles and prophets, while Christ Jesus himself is the foundation cornerstone.


John 3:16
16“For God loved the world so much that he gave his only-begotten Son, so that everyone exercising faith in him might not be destroyed but have everlasting life.



English
18 And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence.

John 14:6
Jesus said to him: “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me


English
Then Jesus said to his disciples: “If anyone wants to come after me, let him disown himself and pick up his torture stake and keep following me


And many more

MrPresident1:


Show us from the Bible, even the Jehovah's witness Bible who created Christianity

Jesus Christ

Boomark:


It is still left for God to decide if he will change it or not. The will of God is all that matters not the will or desire of any man.

I did not say the name should be changed
Christianity was corrupted and Constantine politicized it
I am a Christian and I put faith and follow Jesus
Many also claim but they don't do same
We don't try to identify with other groups cos of the name Christian like an umbrella

Boomark:


What does real Christian mean?

We cannot just wake up one day and decide to reject what God has made to happen. You are opposing God's will with your human thoughts.

I'm contrasting human definition today of Christian with that if Bible times

Boomark:


Thanks my friend.

Some questions can put people in trouble.

But you know that other people can still claim that the name of their church is more fitting and a divine providence. No one has monopoly of claim. But all claims that are unscriptural are false. Christian name is the one we have seen so far in the scripture that came through divine providence. There is no other.

Christian has now become like a traditional self identity
Many don't know what real Christian mean

Michael547:

No space oo...my brother. The truth must come out.

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