NewStats: 3,262,372 , 8,176,946 topics. Date: Monday, 02 June 2025 at 03:05 AM 1r3m5z

dettolgel:


Tell me how believing that we can provide the basic things we need and not necessarily at the level provided by the western country a contradictions that warrants your defence?

Secondly, are you saying with the amount we are generating we can't afford to clear our streets of refuse dump?

That we can't afford to provide a decent public school and that we cant afford a decent healthcare system?

The only hope, the tiny hope I have is that it wasn't always this bad. This question you asked, we had a normal life or standard life in the 60s to the 70s, until Shagari era which sometimes makes me question democrazy. The hope I have is that Nigerians have istered Nigeria well in the past but the ones we have as leaders today, their wickedness needs to be studied. They make me think they are descendants of slave merchants, it may be in their DNA. That's why public service is public cervix, they will suck air from our throats.

They are like the puppets in francophone west Africa who did the bidding of the West. Nigeria wasn't giant of Africa for nothing but that giant is now iant today.

Take a look at LKJ in Lagos. He never claimed to build Lagos and I laugh at those who brag but cannot provide public water supply and good schools to the people. What came to my mind this morning was Emefiele and LKJ. Emefiele built estates, as we were told for his benefit while LKJ built houses for the public. These were two public servants. LKJ, with his position had more opportunities than Emefiele to loot public treasury. We can even say Emefiele should have fiscal discipline and knowledge as someone who headed a bank and was paid fat salaries. LKJ died in his personal house. He did not convert public assets to his own signaging agency, tax consultancy or TV station. These are all Nigerians. Same country, different opportunities, different outcomes. Hmmmm

papyjaypaul:


The only hope, the tiny hope I have is that it wasn't always this bad. This question you asked, we had a normal life or standard life in the 60s to the 70s, until Shagari era which sometimes makes me question democrazy. The hope I have is that Nigerians have istered Nigeria well in the past but the ones we have as leaders today, their wickedness needs to be studied. They make me think they are descendants of slave merchants, it may be in their DNA. That's why public service is public cervix, they will suck air from our throats.

They are like the puppets in francophone west Africa who did the bidding of the West. Nigeria wasn't giant of Africa for nothing but that giant is now iant today.

Take a look at LKJ in Lagos. He never claimed to build Lagos and I laugh at those who brag but cannot provide public water supply and good schools to the people. What came to my mind this morning was Emefiele and LKJ. Emefiele built estates, as we were told for his benefit while LKJ built houses for the public. These were two public servants. LKJ, with his position had more opportunities than Emefiele to loot public treasury. We can even say Emefiele should have fiscal discipline and knowledge as someone who headed a bank and was paid fat salaries. LKJ died in his personal house. He did not convert public assets to his own signaging agency, tax consultancy or TV station. These are all Nigerians. Same country, different opportunities, different outcomes. Hmmmm

You are absolutely correct. I think over the years they have eroded the integrity of the different arm of the government and have embedded those like them in the corridor of power. One thing we all usually overlook is that the civil service is at the center of the problem we have in this country today.

papyjaypaul:


I think you wanted to write I just don't want to be taken advantaged on

Nigerians are living in the bucket and they are crabs. Nigerians like to oppress and show off, do you agree with this theory? Most Nigerians, sorry, not all.

You are utterly right.

dettolgel:


Tell me how believing that we can provide the basic things we need and not necessarily at the level provided by the western country a contradictions that warrants your defence?

Secondly, are you saying with the amount we are generating we can't afford to clear our streets of refuse dump?

That we can't afford to provide a decent public school and that we cant afford a decent healthcare system?

Are you telling me that majority of our public funds that are being stolen if put into its intended use that we won't have at a decent country?

I observed that you guys don't read to understand but to attack anything that seems like a political text. What you failed to understand is that I am not only referring to funds being stolen in this istration but since the existence of Nigeria. Development is like a step you build on it over time. With what we have generated since 1960 till date should at least have the basic necessity of life not necessarily European or US standards. But every household should be able to have flushing toilet, our waste management system should be functional so is our public schools and hospitals. Whether we have speed train, space ship or the best military is not necessarily required.

what defence ? I speak reality and not theory solution to our problem. Nigerias growth will be gradual, may be annoyingly slow and steady. If you want fast , maybe a smart benevolent dictator. The issues are multidimensional. If i indulge you with waste management, you will agree that challenges with WM varies across states and more prominent in highly populated states, Lagos is a good case study. How many Lagosians even pay approved waste managers to dispose waste? How many have designated waste thrash can? How many do not throw refuse out of their car or public vehicles? The people who contribute to the problem in no small ways ironically the cheap complain bandwagon. I see someone write here of some good old days, it is mostly nostalgic imagination or tales you were informed. Lagos was ranked dirtiest capital city in the world in 1973, go figure.

chinchum:
How old is Nigeria?


Just 70years ago, many states barely had 10% literacy rate, half of the population were almost naked and living like early man, but we suddenly think Nigeria should be US when we travel to US. We fail to see our role in the "failings" of Nigeria. There is no magic bullet, we will grow slowly and steadily at least in the next 15 years.

How old is Singapore?

CoronaVirusPro:


It’s not worth the hype and a struggling state.

List it among its pairs around the world and tell me where it stands. A state living on old glory. What spectacular thing has happened in Illinois last 30 years? Just mention one thing!

You can compare it with Arkansas and you will think Illinois is doing fine, but rank it among its pairs like Dubai, Frankfurt, Dublin or Doha, then you will start having problems.

You already started having problems comparing Chicago to Doha. Check the liveability rankings of Chicago and Doha. Chicago is ahead. It means the city is not bad. Besides he's talking about Nigeria and none of those cities you listed. He's not saying Nigeria should be on the levels of Chicago but at least there should be signs of good governance. Not grappling with power and water supply and illiteracy in 2025. Your position is indefensible

NigerianAngelo:


How old is Singapore?

Singapore? Remind me the population of that country. It is not even as populated as Akwa Ibom. Are you also ready for a full fledged dictator, a smart one like Lee kuan Yew. I said it earlier on such dictators tend to bring fast change. Although Singapore is a tiny country and a wrong country to try to compare Nigeria with.

Obaaderemi2:
You already started having problems comparing Chicago to Doha. Check the liveability rankings of Chicago and Doha. Chicago is ahead. It means the city is not bad. Besides he's talking about Nigeria and none of those cities you listed. He's not saying Nigeria should be on the levels of Chicago but at least there should be signs of good governance. Not grappling with power and water supply and illiteracy in 2025. Your position is indefensible

very anyhow person

And this is a Nigerian youth

CoronaVirusPro:


For a newbie coming from Nigeria, those things will still freak him for sometime before actual reality sets in.

You guys are talking nonsense per usual. There’s nothing in those cities you mentioned that’s not in Chicago. The old buildings are still functioning well. Should they be broken down. Is Lekki better than GRA because the buildings are newer. Beijing and Tokyo compare to New York not Chicago. People from Beijing struggle to live in Chicago.

Dtribeless:


You guys are talking nonsense per usual. There’s nothing in those cities you mentioned that’s not in Chicago. The old buildings are still functioning well. Should they be broken down. Is Lekki better than GRA because the buildings are newer. Beijing and Tokyo compare to New York not Chicago. People from Beijing struggle to live in Chicago.

tell them to compare basic things provided in the city of Chicago
Like electricity
Security
Jobs
Health etc and watch them divert to another topic

Obaaderemi2:
You already started having problems comparing Chicago to Doha. Check the liveability rankings of Chicago and Doha. Chicago is ahead. It means the city is not bad. Besides he's talking about Nigeria and none of those cities you listed. He's not saying Nigeria should be on the levels of Chicago but at least there should be signs of good governance. Not grappling with power and water supply and illiteracy in 2025. Your position is indefensible

Nigeria is not in the league of Illinois!

Compare Illinois with states in his league. I gave you options! Which of those states is Illinois better that. From, education, healthcare, infrastructure, down to road. Which of those cities can Illinois match

You can as well compare Nigeria with Sudan, Niger and Congo and see how great we doing.

Dtribeless:


You guys are talking nonsense per usual. There’s nothing in those cities you mentioned that’s not in Chicago. The old buildings are still functioning well. Should they be broken down. Is Lekki better than GRA because the buildings are newer. Beijing and Tokyo compare to New York not Chicago. People from Beijing struggle to live in Chicago.

You want to compare Beijing and Tokyo with New York 🤣🤣🤣🤣

Even Trump will not compare those two cities. New York is a slum beside those two cities.

Does Lagos have the wralth of Chucago ?
You are obviously a bitter relative of Kanu n Obi
What stops you comparing Anambra with Chicago ?

steeltrust:
these are the kind of youth I’m talking about. All they do is feel so comfortable in the eyes of oppression and bad leadership. I pointed out some good things I witnessed and was advocating for it to happen in Nigeria. Show me where I praised it. And even in your opinion of the your convection, you can’t compare Lagos to Chicago. Abeg getat

CoronaVirusPro:


Nigeria is not in the league of Illinois!

Compare Illinois with states in his league. I gave you options! Which of those states is Illinois better that. From, education, healthcare, infrastructure, down to road. Which of those cities can Illinois match

You can as well compare Nigeria with Sudan, Niger and Congo and see how great we doing.

Chicago is better than Doha, one of the cities you gave me.

Why should I compare Nigeria to Niger and Congo? Congo had no secondary school graduate at independence. Nigeria had doctors and lawyers in the 19th century. I would rather compare Nigeria to Kenya and Ghana and even against those backward countries, Nigeria fares badly. If at this stage we still have individuals defending Nigeria's self-made backwardness, then there's going to be a tough battle to improve Nigeria

steeltrust:
very anyhow person

And this is a Nigerian youth

In fact, it's frustrating.
His likes are busy defending Nigeria's sorry state and comparing us to nonentities like Sudan and Congo. Meanwhile the politicians and their thugs who destroyed Nigeria are sending their own kids abroad.

CoronaVirusPro:
Same Chicago has a poverty rate at 17% and over the roof gun violence!


Yes, a big city with high IGR, but what has that translated into for people of colour like you?

Can you afford to rent or buy houses in this districts you praise so much online?

Why not tell us about the conditions of where your colour dominates in same Illinois.

After robbing you of state and over the roof property taxes, you still could applaud the little they do. That state does not even have a speed train or modern infrastructure. All they got is old outdated buildings with 1930 railways that could collapse anytime.

Illinois will only freak you if you a newbie. That state is on the reverse.

Black poverty has nothing to do with racism. Many African Americans are fed up with this victim hood.

The primary reason why African-Anericans are at rhe bottom has more to do with a welfare program, AFDC, launched in 1960s which made single motherhood financially rewarding.

An unemployed mother was entitled to a welfare cheques once she had a child and free health care as well. The more children she had unemployed, the more money she got. It was capped at four kids.

If you got a job or got married, the cheques stopped along with free health care. So, there was a financial disincentive to get a job or get married.

Unfortunately, black women grabbed it with both hands, and it led to an explosion of babies born to single mothers. In 1960, 70% of black kids were raised in two parent homes. Today only 30% are. The rest are mainly raised by single mothers.

There's very little stigma to having a love child now in the black community. It's called Baby mamas.

What has this got to do with crime? Males raised by single.mothers are 7 times more likely to be criminals than those raised by two parent or by single father households. Men seem to be very good at drawing boundaries than women. Also, women raised by single mothers are likely to become one themselves.

The AFDC was tweaked in the 1990s bit the damage had been done. There's very little stigma in being a single mama with 4 children from 4 different baby daddies. It is just insane.

Did you know in 2012, 56% of all black men in the city of Baltimore between the ages of 18 and 35, were either in prison, or jail, or probation, or parole at any point in time? It's just crazy.

If the only thing that dullard in the White House did was to sign an executive order barring women 19 years and below from benefitting from from any welfare program or food stamps- and touched nothing else- he would deserve a lot of kudos. There would be a sharp drop in teenage pregnancies. Tough love is needed to change things. That dullard in the White House no send. He is capable of doing it. There should be a grace period before before it's implemented.

Obaaderemi2:
Chicago is better than Doha, one of the cities you gave me.

Why should I compare Nigeria to Niger and Congo? Congo had no secondary school graduate at independence. Nigeria had doctors and lawyers in the 19th century. I would rather compare Nigeria to Kenya and Ghana and even against those backward countries, Nigeria fares badly. If at this stage we still have individuals defending Nigeria's self-made backwardness, then there's going to be a tough battle to improve Nigeria

Chicago better than Doha 🤣🤣🤣🤣

You know the interesting part is that, even the governor of Illinois will argue with you. 🤣🤣🤣

CoronaVirusPro:


Chicago better than Doha 🤣🤣🤣🤣

You know the interesting part is that, even the governor of Illinois will argue with you. 🤣🤣🤣

olodo
Doha is a city while Chicago is town compare Illinois to Doha

steeltrust:
olodo
Doha is a city while Chicago is town compare Illinois to Doha

I said the governor of Illinois will disagree with you. Is Chicago in another state?

Comparing Chicago with Doha? Do you smoke Marijuana

CoronaVirusPro:


I said the governor of Illinois will disagree with you. Is Chicago in another state?

Comparing Chicago with Doha? Do you smoke Marijuana

oga stop making noise

Use chatgpt and see statistics

No de make noise

Don’t compare both

Compare Doha to Lagos or Doha to rich oil delta like Qatar

Bloody clown

UpaIweka:
Does Lagos have the wralth of Chucago ?
You are obviously a bitter relative of Kanu n Obi
What stops you comparing Anambra with Chicago ?

what a pity
I’m bitter about bad leadership or the sorry state of Nigeria

Some of you think y’all more patriotic than we who tell you truth

I pity your generation

CoronaVirusPro:


So Nigeria you could compare it with? Why not compare it with Chongqing, Berlin or Tokyo?

Oh! Nigeria is the best you could compare it with!

Why not? Otherwise, why were you so pained over a harmless truthful post?

Factcheck0001:
did Illinois start it's development 60years ago?

60 years ago, naira was stronger than dollars.

helinues:


Clean your mouth

former chairman agbero union nairaland branch

BeardedMeat:
Why not? Otherwise, why were you so pained over a harmless truthful post?

What truthful post!

What is the government of Illinois doing for the state? Is quality education generic across the state or is healthcare free? Can the state generally be termed as safe?

You keep saying the government is working for its people, and I am still yet to see someone mention what the government does for its people. Like healthcare or tertiary education being free, even with outrageous property taxes.

Even the dude that composed tye novel knows fully well he cannot even afford to buy or rent in a zip code with good schools, security and healthcare, and here we are talking about what the government does for its people. List it out! Almost dead transportation that could collapse anytime from now, or a war gang wars that could explode from south Chicago across the state.

Please! Only a JJC trips! Don’t tell an OG how the Governor of Illinois help its people.

CoronaVirusPro:


What truthful post!

What is the government of Illinois doing for the state? Is quality education generic across the state or is healthcare free? Can the state generally be termed as safe?

You keep saying the government is working for its people, and I am still yet to see someone mention what the government does for its people. Like healthcare or tertiary education being free, even with outrageous property taxes.

Even the dude that composed tye novel knows fully well he cannot even afford to buy or rent in a zip code with good schools, security and healthcare, and here we are talking about what the government does for its people. List it out! Almost dead transportation that could collapse anytime from now, or a war gang wars that could explode from south Chicago across the state.

Please! Only a JJC trips! Don’t tell an OG how the Governor of Illinois help its people.

All your rants have been addressed adequately by others in the other pages. Why recycling them?

CoronaVirusPro:


What truthful post!

What is the government of Illinois doing for the state? Is quality education generic across the state or is healthcare free? Can the state generally be termed as safe?

You keep saying the government is working for its people, and I am still yet to see someone mention what the government does for its people. Like healthcare or tertiary education being free, even with outrageous property taxes.

Even the dude that composed tye novel knows fully well he cannot even afford to buy or rent in a zip code with good schools, security and healthcare, and here we are talking about what the government does for its people. List it out! Almost dead transportation that could collapse anytime from now, or a war gang wars that could explode from south Chicago across the state.

Please! Only a JJC trips! Don’t tell an OG how the Governor of Illinois help its people.

ode
I live in the suburban part of Chicago and it easy to buy a house in as much you got good credit score
Josh my co worker of 24 just a house of 200k with down payment of 10k

The agent that help get me I linked both up

Your problem it you and helinus don’t read to comprehend

Did I even compare ?

All I said govt should be broken down so it can get to the grassroots

Institutions in Nigeria should be decentralized so they can function

But here you’re cry as if you’re even benefiting from the abysmal leadership Nigeria has

No country without it flaws but don’t compare Nigeria to any developed country

Nigeria was better than Singapore
Indonesia
China
Vietnam etc but today in under 10years+ they’re way ahead and you come here to make noise

I pity your generation sha

Pity your fada generation their bigitry n hate gut us here. The closest thing to Chicago in Nigeria remains Lagos so cite Anambra as example of poorly developed state next time so the rest of us can take you seriously. After all Lagos is still beta developed than Anambra in all level of development known to the human race today 2025.

steeltrust:
what a pity
I’m bitter about bad leadership or the sorry state of Nigeria

Some of you think y’all more patriotic than we who tell you truth

I pity your generation

steeltrust:
ode
I live in the suburban part of Chicago and it easy to buy a house in as much you got good credit score
Josh my co worker of 24 just a house of 200k with down payment of 10k

The agent that help get me I linked both up

Your problem it you and helinus don’t read to comprehend

Did I even compare ?

All I said govt should be broken down so it can get to the grassroots

Institutions in Nigeria should be decentralized so they can function

But here you’re cry as if you’re even benefiting from the abysmal leadership Nigeria has

No country without it flaws but don’t compare Nigeria to any developed country

Nigeria was better than Singapore
Indonesia
China
Vietnam etc but today in under 10years+ they’re way ahead and you come here to make noise

I pity your generation sha

You see! Can tell you a newbie!

You DEFINITELY stay in village to have gotten a condo of 200k. It still freaks you. The government soaked you in 30 years credit and here you are applauding chains on your neck.

So that’s what the government of Illinois did for you! Have you calculated your interest over 30 years? You feel they helped you 🤣🤣🤣

Your area definitely does have good schools or healthcare with a 200k condo. Don’t get me started please! Can tell guns be ringing every night in such area.