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Factcheck0001: 12:00pm On May 27
Peakdesign23:
Nigeria na complete zoo.
which animal are your par**TS?

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Factcheck0001: 12:03pm On May 27
DesChyko:


You still haven't thanked me. I just filled an empty zone in that head and you can't show appreciation.

So much for coming from a culture of respect. 😒😒
filled it with gibberish

U don't even know u ain't making sense

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Obaaderemi2: 12:04pm On May 27
CoronaVirusPro:
Same Chicago has a poverty rate at 17% and over the roof gun violence!


Yes, a big city with high IGR, but what has that translated into for people of colour like you?

Can you afford to rent or buy houses in this districts you praise so much online?

Why not tell us about the conditions of where your colour dominates in same Illinois.

After robbing you of state and over the roof property taxes, you still could applaud the little they do. That state does not even have a speed train or modern infrastructure. All they got is old outdated buildings with 1930 railways that could collapse anytime.

Illinois will only freak you if you a newbie. That state is on the reverse.

So is any part of Nigeria better than Illinois?

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Obaaderemi2: 12:08pm On May 27
chrisxxx:
Me I have every opportunity to leave Nigeria. I have had UK visa, Malaysia Visa and visited severally. Presently I have a five year American Visa. Why am I still in Nigeria? I have lived long in this jungle that I have become afraid if I could fit in and live in a functional society.
I can't line. I can't even be on queue in traffic. I don't like wait, I usually find a way out of an organized system.
Nigeria has dealt with me. Any place I am traveling to will take me at least two years to adjust to a normal person.
cheesy grin

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Obaaderemi2: 12:10pm On May 27
Britishpea:
Life is a progress. I am doing certain business that has made me to understand that you can never ever skip the process.

Nigeria needs time it will get there. We are a great people with bad psyche. The psyche needs time to blend.

Gradually the paradigm will be shifting towards the right place and we will have great people in power.

America is a large democracy. The people were brought up with a complete thinking different from ours.

An American doesn’t believe that when they grow old their children must inherit their responsibilities but it’s otherwise here.

An American doesn’t believe that a husband must saddle the home responsibilities by 90/100% but it’s not like that here.

You don’t expect the people with these types of thinking to have the same way of running the government.

We the people are the country… leadership is from the within! We still have people like Awolowo and I am a great leader to watch out for.
So we need to reinvent the wheel? 🤔

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23jerryking(m): 12:15pm On May 27
chrisxxx:
Me I have every opportunity to leave Nigeria. I have had UK visa, Malaysia Visa and visited severally. Presently I have a five year American Visa. Why am I still in Nigeria? I have lived long in this jungle that I have become afraid if I could fit in and live in a functional society.
I can't line. I can't even be on queue in traffic. I don't like wait, I usually find a way out of an organized system.
Nigeria has dealt with me. Any place I am traveling to will take me at least two years to adjust to a normal person.
You can imagine what was supposed to be a country has done

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CoronaVirusPro: 12:17pm On May 27
Obaaderemi2:
So is any part of Nigeria better than Illinois?

So Nigeria you could compare it with? Why not compare it with Chongqing, Berlin or Tokyo?

Oh! Nigeria is the best you could compare it with!

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Factcheck0001: 12:21pm On May 27
Obaaderemi2:
So is any part of Nigeria better than Illinois?
did Illinois start it's development 60years ago?

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Obaaderemi2: 12:24pm On May 27
CoronaVirusPro:


So Nigeria you could compare it with? Why not compare it with Chongqing, Berlin or Tokyo?

Oh! Nigeria is the best you could compare it with!
Is Nigeria not a country too? You made it sound like Chicago was a poor place.

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DesChyko: 12:28pm On May 27
Factcheck0001:
filled it with gibberish

U don't even know u ain't making sense

Usually Nairaland hides gibberish these days, like the most recent post you made.

Gibberish detector 😂

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Obaaderemi2: 12:29pm On May 27
Factcheck0001:
did Illinois start it's development 60years ago?
Did the components of Nigeria start their development sixty years ago? Did we start having schools and roads just 60 years ago? We used to be at par and even above countries like Korea, Vietnam, Singapore, Bangladesh, even Kenya. Which of those countries is not better than Nigeria today?
The corruption and tribalism here is alarming. That's why the country is retrogressive

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chrisxxx(m): 12:32pm On May 27
23jerryking:
You can imagine what was supposed to be a country has done
Bros I am telling you. I am sharp and intelligent. I know this. I have worked with the whites and they have good recommendations about me. But within me I know my limitations.

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F117nighthawk: 12:35pm On May 27
Hold your leaders able u say?not in Nigeria, Nigerians are too gullible and docile to hold their leaders able,the Keke and POS business u mentioned are too satisfying and comfortable for the gullible citizens to take as consolation while top politicians and those in power loot and take away billions belonging to the people.
Nobody wan die or sacrifice their lives for any good revolutionary change in naija.thats why the suffering continues



steeltrust:
Let me share my experience since I moved to America. Over here, every tier of government—local, state, and federal—has its own responsibilities and functions independently. This system makes development reach the grassroots effortlessly. But back home in Nigeria, everything is tied to either the state or federal government, leaving local councils powerless and ineffective. No wonder governors and politicians are more powerful than institutions like EFCC and IC.

Take Chicago, for example. The local government here handles its own revenue collection, builds and maintains roads, runs hospitals, and creates a business-friendly environment that generates jobs. You’ll never see the governor of Illinois coming to Chicago to inaugurate a local road or hospital project because each level of government knows its role and delivers without interference. Even law enforcement is decentralized—Chicago has its own police department, and Cook County (similar to our local councils in Nigeria) has its own sheriff’s department. Crime is tackled effectively because responsibilities are clear.

Meanwhile, in Nigeria, soldiers patrol highways harassing civilians, while the police are either underfunded or compromised. Here, soldiers don’t even engage in civil matters—in fact, they respect the police more than the other way around. The system works because ability is enforced. Break a traffic rule? Your license gets suspended. Do it again? You might never drive again. And if driving is your livelihood, well, you better find another job. The law doesn’t play favorites.

Back in Warri, I a church buying two acres of land just to build a massive auditorium while 99% of the community had no functional companies to provide jobs. Graduates end up driving keke or doing POS business because there are no real opportunities. Yet, when a governor builds a single road, people start shouting, "Our governor is working!" My brother, is it road we will eat?

Our politicians are wicked—plain and simple. They travel abroad, see how things work, and yet refuse to implement the same systems back home. Instead, they keep us divided with politics, religion, and tribalism while looting everything in sight. Meanwhile, we spend our time on social media complaining instead of taking action. We’re too sentimental, too forgiving, and too quick to celebrate mediocrity.

In 2025, Nigeria is still struggling with basic electricity, good roads, and functioning hospitals while the rest of the world is advancing in AI and technology. When will we wake up? When will we demand real ability? These politicians are destroying the future of the next generation, and if we don’t act now, things will only get worse.

It’s time to stop the noise and start holding people able. The system over here isn’t perfect, but at least it works because the laws are enforced. When will Nigeria learn?

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dettolgel: 12:42pm On May 27
chinchum:
How old is Nigeria?


Just 70years ago, many states barely had 10% literacy rate, half of the population were almost naked and living like early man, but we suddenly think Nigeria should be US when we travel to US. We fail to see our role in the "failings" of Nigeria. There is no magic bullet, we will grow slowly and steadily at least in the next 15 years.

Rwanda is not like the US or UK but have a semblance of a government that cares for the masses. Our infrastructures don't have to be in the same level as theirs but some basic needs should be provided for.

For instance, every household should have access to good plumbing system eg functional bathrooms and toilets. Secondly, waste disposal shouldn't be an issue at least in this present day. Thirdly, our schools should be well funded and regulated. Not the disparity that exists between public schools in the villages, where there are neither teachers nor chairs for students, and the public schools in the cities that are barely getting bye. Juxtaposition it with good private schools and you will understand the failure of the system.

Furthermore, our hospitals do not have to be as massive as Johns Hopkins and the likes but we should be able to get good health care and treat with respect both the patients and healthcare providers. I doubt if in of structures if Cuba can match the US but their healthcare system is open to be emulated. There are big hospitals in the Netherlands but not in the same league as the ones in the US yet healthcare services in the Netherlands is world class.

I can go on and on in every sectors. The idea is to use what we can afford efficiently not pissing it away through embezzlement.

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CoronaVirusPro: 12:59pm On May 27
Obaaderemi2:
Is Nigeria not a country too? You made it sound like Chicago was a poor place.

It’s not worth the hype and a struggling state.

List it among its pairs around the world and tell me where it stands. A state living on old glory. What spectacular thing has happened in Illinois last 30 years? Just mention one thing!

You can compare it with Arkansas and you will think Illinois is doing fine, but rank it among its pairs like Dubai, Frankfurt, Dublin or Doha, then you will start having problems.

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papyjaypaul: 1:02pm On May 27
chrisxxx:
Me I have every opportunity to leave Nigeria. I have had UK visa, Malaysia Visa and visited severally. Presently I have a five year American Visa. Why am I still in Nigeria? I have lived long in this jungle that I have become afraid if I could fit in and live in a functional society.
I can't line. I can't even be on queue in traffic. I don't like wait, I usually find a way out of an organized system.
Nigeria has dealt with me. Any place I am traveling to will take me at least two years to adjust to a normal person.

Are you being serious about this post? Are you trying to say that you don't like orderliness and process, you just like it your way?
I am not attacking you, I just want to understand how you think about your experience. wink

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chrisxxx(m): 1:42pm On May 27
papyjaypaul:


Are you being serious about this post? Are you trying to say that you don't like orderliness and process, you just like it your way?
I am not attacking you, I just want to understand how you think about your experience. wink
Bros Nigeria situation can't even allow you leave a normal life. The truth is that as you try to do the right thing someone is acting like he is the only Nigerian somewhere. For this particular reason I just want to be taken advantaged on.
Commentor: 1:58pm On May 27
Talk about the tax.
APOPTOSIS: 2:53pm On May 27
steeltrust:
Let me share my experience since I moved to America. Over here, every tier of government—local, state, and federal—has its own responsibilities and functions independently. This system makes development reach the grassroots effortlessly. But back home in Nigeria, everything is tied to either the state or federal government, leaving local councils powerless and ineffective. No wonder governors and politicians are more powerful than institutions like EFCC and IC.

Take Chicago, for example. The local government here handles its own revenue collection, builds and maintains roads, runs hospitals, and creates a business-friendly environment that generates jobs. You’ll never see the governor of Illinois coming to Chicago to inaugurate a local road or hospital project because each level of government knows its role and delivers without interference. Even law enforcement is decentralized—Chicago has its own police department, and Cook County (similar to our local councils in Nigeria) has its own sheriff’s department. Crime is tackled effectively because responsibilities are clear.

Meanwhile, in Nigeria, soldiers patrol highways harassing civilians, while the police are either underfunded or compromised. Here, soldiers don’t even engage in civil matters—in fact, they respect the police more than the other way around. The system works because ability is enforced. Break a traffic rule? Your license gets suspended. Do it again? You might never drive again. And if driving is your livelihood, well, you better find another job. The law doesn’t play favorites.

Back in Warri, I a church buying two acres of land just to build a massive auditorium while 99% of the community had no functional companies to provide jobs. Graduates end up driving keke or doing POS business because there are no real opportunities. Yet, when a governor builds a single road, people start shouting, "Our governor is working!" My brother, is it road we will eat?

Our politicians are wicked—plain and simple. They travel abroad, see how things work, and yet refuse to implement the same systems back home. Instead, they keep us divided with politics, religion, and tribalism while looting everything in sight. Meanwhile, we spend our time on social media complaining instead of taking action. We’re too sentimental, too forgiving, and too quick to celebrate mediocrity.

In 2025, Nigeria is still struggling with basic electricity, good roads, and functioning hospitals while the rest of the world is advancing in AI and technology. When will we wake up? When will we demand real ability? These politicians are destroying the future of the next generation, and if we don’t act now, things will only get worse.

It’s time to stop the noise and start holding people able. The system over here isn’t perfect, but at least it works because the laws are enforced. When will Nigeria learn?
In summary, Naija is very very very Lawless because those who are meant to champion lawful conduct are Lawless and law breakers including those who make the laws.
Not a good place to be born at all....

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23jerryking(m): 3:10pm On May 27
chrisxxx:

Bros I am telling you. I am sharp and intelligent. I know this. I have worked with the whites and they have good recommendations about me. But within me I know my limitations.
It's true what they say about the influence of one's environment on his psychology. But trust me it would take you only 21 days to adapt in a saner clime.

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chinchum(m): 3:13pm On May 27
dettolgel:


Rwanda is not like the US or UK but have a semblance of a government that cares for the masses. Our infrastructures don't have to be in the same level as theirs but some basic needs should be provided for.

For instance, every household should have access to good plumbing system eg functional bathrooms and toilets. Secondly, waste disposal shouldn't be an issue at least in this present day. Thirdly, our schools should be well funded and regulated. Not the disparity that exists between public schools in the villages, where there are neither teachers nor chairs for students, and the public schools in the cities that are barely getting bye. Juxtaposition it with good private schools and you will understand the failure of the system.

Furthermore, our hospitals do not have to be as massive as Johns Hopkins and the likes but we should be able to get good health care and treat with respect both the patients and healthcare providers. I doubt if in of structures if Cuba can match the US but their healthcare system is open to be emulated. There are big hospitals in the Netherlands but not in the same league as the ones in the US yet healthcare services in the Netherlands is world class.

I can go on and on in every sectors. The idea is to use what we can afford efficiently not pissing it away through embezzlement.
Rwanda a one city country that was forced via brutal dictatorship in the name of Kigali that at best you only visited and stayed for 2 weeks. I likened that country to a 2 bedroom flat households owners try so hard to facelift the living room, but the kitchen and 2 bedrooms paint a different picture.

While Nigeria is gradually improving her budget to make clearly noticeably impact aside the looting by politicians and civil servants, its budget is abysmal low to get most things needed done and even maintain it. We are always quick to compare with countries with over 20 times budget per capita.

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chinchum(m): 3:21pm On May 27
Baxilexi:


This is non sequitur friend.

The person who charts the way takes a longer time than the person who follows the way. Everything in life follows this principle. Once a hypothesis becomes theory, it can be replicated.

Nigeria has no excuse not to be doing better than its present quagmire. Where we are was where many countries where years back and today, many have taken a bullet train to catch up with their contemporaries, ex India.

We can choose to wallow in our misery or become intentional about creating a new Nigeria, and put an end to recycling of impotent politicians.
i have no doubt that we can be better, however i dislike those who travel and starts whining about how Nigeria should be like US. I am also a diasporan and believe Nigeria will get there . Nigeroa has nothing to benefit from Nigerians who whine all day and begin to talk down on the country that raised them just because they crossed the sea. Its growth has to be deliberate and collective. A boy who eats the rice of the neighbor and begins to castigate his mother thinks he has the full picture.

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bazoodo: 3:46pm On May 27
CoronaVirusPro:
Same Chicago has a poverty rate at 17% and over the roof gun violence!


Yes, a big city with high IGR, but what has that translated into for people of colour like you?

Can you afford to rent or buy houses in this districts you praise so much online?

Why not tell us about the conditions of where your colour dominates in same Illinois.

After robbing you of state and over the roof property taxes, you still could applaud the little they do. That state does not even have a speed train or modern infrastructure. All they got is old outdated buildings with 1930 railways that could collapse anytime.

Illinois will only freak you if you a newbie. That state is on the reverse.

dont mind the op. America itself is third world compared to China. Singapore is way more livable than Chicago. Olden days buildings and infrastructure. Chicago looks like a place still set in the 1800s 🤣🤣

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CoronaVirusPro: 3:47pm On May 27
bazoodo:
dont mind the op. America itself is third world compared to China. Singapore is way more livable than Chicago. Olden days buildings and infrastructure. Chicago looks like a place still set in the 1800s 🤣🤣

For a newbie coming from Nigeria, those things will still freak him for sometime before actual reality sets in.

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dettolgel: 4:03pm On May 27
chinchum:
Rwanda a one city country that was forced via brutal dictatorship in the name of Kigali that at best you only visited and stayed for 2 weeks. I likened that country to a 2 bedroom flat households owners try so hard to facelift the living room, but the kitchen and 2 bedrooms paint a different picture.

While Nigeria is gradually improving her budget to make clearly noticeably impact aside the looting by politicians and civil servants, its budget is abysmal low to get most things needed done and even maintain it. We are always quick to compare with countries with over 20 times budget per capita.

Tell me how believing that we can provide the basic things we need and not necessarily at the level provided by the western country a contradictions that warrants your defence?

Secondly, are you saying with the amount we are generating we can't afford to clear our streets of refuse dump?

That we can't afford to provide a decent public school and that we cant afford a decent healthcare system?

Are you telling me that majority of our public funds that are being stolen if put into its intended use that we won't have at a decent country?

I observed that you guys don't read to understand but to attack anything that seems like a political text. What you failed to understand is that I am not only referring to funds being stolen in this istration but since the existence of Nigeria. Development is like a step you build on it over time. With what we have generated since 1960 till date should at least have the basic necessity of life not necessarily European or US standards. But every household should be able to have flushing toilet, our waste management system should be functional so is our public schools and hospitals. Whether we have speed train, space ship or the best military is not necessarily required.

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stacyadams: 4:18pm On May 27
steeltrust:
Let me share my experience since I moved to America. Over here, every tier of government—local, state, and federal—has its own responsibilities and functions independently. This system makes development reach the grassroots effortlessly. But back home in Nigeria, everything is tied to either the state or federal government, leaving local councils powerless and ineffective. No wonder governors and politicians are more powerful than institutions like EFCC and IC.

Take Chicago, for example. The local government here handles its own revenue collection, builds and maintains roads, runs hospitals, and creates a business-friendly environment that generates jobs. You’ll never see the governor of Illinois coming to Chicago to inaugurate a local road or hospital project because each level of government knows its role and delivers without interference. Even law enforcement is decentralized—Chicago has its own police department, and Cook County (similar to our local councils in Nigeria) has its own sheriff’s department. Crime is tackled effectively because responsibilities are clear.

Meanwhile, in Nigeria, soldiers patrol highways harassing civilians, while the police are either underfunded or compromised. Here, soldiers don’t even engage in civil matters—in fact, they respect the police more than the other way around. The system works because ability is enforced. Break a traffic rule? Your license gets suspended. Do it again? You might never drive again. And if driving is your livelihood, well, you better find another job. The law doesn’t play favorites.

Back in Warri, I a church buying two acres of land just to build a massive auditorium while 99% of the community had no functional companies to provide jobs. Graduates end up driving keke or doing POS business because there are no real opportunities. Yet, when a governor builds a single road, people start shouting, "Our governor is working!" My brother, is it road we will eat?

Our politicians are wicked—plain and simple. They travel abroad, see how things work, and yet refuse to implement the same systems back home. Instead, they keep us divided with politics, religion, and tribalism while looting everything in sight. Meanwhile, we spend our time on social media complaining instead of taking action. We’re too sentimental, too forgiving, and too quick to celebrate mediocrity.

In 2025, Nigeria is still struggling with basic electricity, good roads, and functioning hospitals while the rest of the world is advancing in AI and technology. When will we wake up? When will we demand real ability? These politicians are destroying the future of the next generation, and if we don’t act now, things will only get worse.

It’s time to stop the noise and start holding people able. The system over here isn’t perfect, but at least it works because the laws are enforced. When will Nigeria learn?



Pls you can bundle that usseeleess hellanus into your luggage so he can go experience how normal humans live... grin maybe it will reset his cement ,blocked brain .

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chrisxxx(m): 4:44pm On May 27
23jerryking:
It's true what they say about the influence of one's environment on his psychology. But trust me it would take you only 21 days to adapt in a saner clime.
Lol. That is true. I have no issues being there
It is just that I am comfortable here if not for the misrules of our leaders. No place is like home and especially Nigeria.
Cheap food and everything.

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steeltrust: 4:59pm On May 27
dettolgel:


Tell me how believing that we can provide the basic things we need and not necessarily at the level provided by the western country a contradictions that warrants your defence?

Secondly, are you saying with the amount we are generating we can't afford to clear our streets of refuse dump?

That we can't afford to provide a decent public school and that we cant afford a decent healthcare system?

Are you telling me that majority of our public funds that are being stolen if put into its intended use that we won't have at a decent country?

I observed that you guys don't read to understand but to attack anything that seems like a political text. What you failed to understand is that I am not only referring to funds being stolen in this istration but since the existence of Nigeria. Development is like a step you build on it over time. With what we have generated since 1960 till date should at least have the basic necessity of life not necessarily European or US standards. But every household should be able to have flushing toilet, our waste management system should be functional so is our public schools and hospitals. Whether we have speed train, space ship or the best military is not necessarily required.

My brother, the truth hurts, but it must be said. The problem isn’t just the government—it’s also the mindset of many Nigerian youths. When you point out simple things that shouldn’t even be a luxury—steady light, good roads, security—they attack you like you’re the enemy. As if complaining about bad governance makes you less patriotic. SMH.

Look at countries like UAE and China. In just 10+ years, they transformed from nothing to global powerhouses. Meanwhile, Nigeria has had over 60 years of the same recycled system, and we’re still begging for basic amenities. How?

The bitter truth is, even if you decide to stay back and fight, you’ll soon realize it’s a lost cause because the system is designed to frustrate anyone trying to change it. The people who should be demanding better are the same ones defending failure, eg helinus, mannabbqgrill etc

I mentioned earlier that one way forward is decentralizing power so development can reach the grassroots. If local governments actually functioned, they could handle roads, electricity, schools, and security—creating jobs and attracting investors. But no, some people would rather argue and insult than see the obvious solution right in front of them.

Instead of holding leaders able, they make noise on social media, attack those speaking truth, and celebrate mediocrity. Then they turn around and wonder why nothing changes.

At this point, all we can do is shake our heads and hope that one day, they’ll wake up before it’s too late. But honestly? I’m not holding my breath

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papyjaypaul: 5:00pm On May 27
chrisxxx:

Bros Nigeria situation can't even allow you leave a normal life. The truth is that as you try to do the right thing someone is acting like he is the only Nigerian somewhere. For this particular reason I just want to be taken advantaged on.

I think you wanted to write I just don't want to be taken advantaged on

Nigerians are living in the bucket and they are crabs. Nigerians like to oppress and show off, do you agree with this theory? Most Nigerians, sorry, not all.

steeltrust: 5:02pm On May 27
CoronaVirusPro:


For a newbie coming from Nigeria, those things will still freak him for sometime before actual reality sets in.
you’re just gullible

Thesame place you feel Nigeria is better gave opportunities to kids who you’re far older poppy to own houses and buy cars at low as 21

But all you do is come online to defend bad leadership who’re wasting your destiny

Pick a clue from my post and stop being a Nuisance

I pity you

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