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You are right on this. Years from now, some kids will post this picture and say Alaafin seated because he is greater than Ooni

Amalekki:
Ooni did not hand over any appointment letter to any Alaafin. The fact that Ooni had no such power other than the time he was a political appointee as Governor-General should already gave you a clue that whatever you saw in the purported 1971 picture had nothing to do with authority to hand over letter of appointment.

The picture must be property researched. In 2052, some kids will post pictures of Ooni of Ife greeting the seated Alaafin of Oyo somewhere in Ibadan in 2025 and include whatever interpretation suits them.

Amalekki:
Ooni did not hand over any appointment letter to any Alaafin. The fact that Ooni had no such power other than the time he was a political appointee as Governor-General should already gave you a clue that whatever you saw in the purported 1971 picture had nothing to do with authority to hand over letter of appointment.

The picture must be property researched. In 2052, some kids will post pictures of Ooni of Ife greeting the seated Alaafin of Oyo somewhere in Ibadan in 2025 and include whatever interpretation suits them.

Your input is much appreciated

Amalekki:
How does Oranmiyan being in possession of and moving to Oyo with the Sword of Mercy translate into "Alaafin had to collect Ada and Abere from Ife.." ??

The book says he proceeds to Oranmiyan shrine where the Ada and Abere are brought from Ife and handed over to him as part of the coronation rites without which he has no authority to order an execution.

Amalekki:
On the other picture.

That was a picture angle from the first ever meeting of the Obas in the old western region. Quite instructively, it was not held at the regional capital, Ibadan. It was held in Oyo at the palace of the Alaafin of Oyo. There was no superiority debate at that point, it was just kings of separate kingdoms coming together in a meeting for the first time ever.

They sat, wined and dined together as brother Obas at Oyo palace. No consideration for future scoring of cheap points was part of the equation at that point. Things changed much later.

That was before the creation of the Western region in 1939. There was no debate because the Ooni was acknowledged by all present as the head. See page 2 of screenshot. It's from the conference of Yoruba chiefs held on March 31st, 1937.

Excerpts from the proceeding at the conference below. The document even talks about their sitting arrangement.

cc: DelilahMakinde
Christistruth02
Nairavsdollars

Ooni has always been the head from time immemorial

Slytiger:


The book says he proceeds to Oranmiyan shrine where the Ada and Abere are brought from Ife and handed over to him as part of the coronation rites without which he has no authority to order an execution.


That was before the creation of the Western region in 1939. There was no debate because the Ooni was acknowledged by all present as the head. See page 2 of screenshot. It's from the conference of Yoruba chiefs held on March 31st, 1937.

Excerpts from the proceeding at the conference below. The document even talks about their sitting arrangement.

cc: DelilahMakinde
Christistruth02
Nairavsdollars

Slytiger:


The book says he proceeds to Oranmiyan shrine where the Ada and Abere are brought from Ife and handed over to him as part of the coronation rites without which he has no authority to order an execution.


That was before the creation of the Western region in 1939. There was no debate because the Ooni was acknowledged by all present as the head. See page 2 of screenshot. It's from the conference of Yoruba chiefs held on March 31st, 1937.

Excerpts from the proceeding at the conference below. The document even talks about their sitting arrangement.

cc: DelilahMakinde
Christistruth02
Nairavsdollars

They were having a meeting among themselves for the first time ever not establishing hierarchy .

Slytiger:


The book says he proceeds to Oranmiyan shrine where the Ada and Abere are brought from Ife and handed over to him as part of the coronation rites without which he has no authority to order an execution.


That was before the creation of the Western region in 1939. There was no debate because the Ooni was acknowledged by all present as the head. See page 2 of screenshot. It's from the conference of Yoruba chiefs held on March 31st, 1937.

Excerpts from the proceeding at the conference below. The document even talks about their sitting arrangement.

cc: DelilahMakinde
Christistruth02
Nairavsdollars

They were having a meeting among themselves for the first time ever not establishing hierarchy. The report clearly indicated the reason, and the common ground, why they had Ooni sitted in that position. Other unclear historical details include why Oyo hosted the inaugural meeting, with Ife hosting the next meeting in 1938.

*Meetings of Obas are not traditional! They do not have meetings. Meetings started under colonial authorities.