NewStats: 3,261,959 , 8,175,669 topics. Date: Saturday, 31 May 2025 at 09:29 AM 6q3c1c

Arrowhead71:
Very likely, but
You know Trump is a business man, what of a scenario in which after few years and America has recoup the investment in Ukraine and pull out
Because that Putin was quoted as saying Trump can also come to Russia for minerals deal exploration also

You mean America will get tired of making money in Ukraine. It's not possible.

tctrills:

You are saying what you don't know. Neither Trump or Russia have given for an end to the war. Or did Trump give you a private call to tell you this?
The negotiation is only beginning and Zelensky is acting like a blood thirsty war mongrel. He has no interest in peace.

..If Zelenskyy accepts the deal,who do you think will take the glory and the fall?

Namaster:
It's funny to see a WOMAN advocating for violence against an INNOCENT man.

But it's even funnier to see Russia and USA 69-ing each other in public.

Trump, Vance, a former Russian President and a USELESS journalist GANGED UP against Zelensky.

They tried to BULLY him BUT they FAILED!

Trump told him to "make a deal".
What deal?

People have been claiming that Trump is a COMPLETE idiot.
And Trump makes it real hard not ro believe them.

He talks about a peace deal. But the deal is basically giving Putin EVERYTHING he wants and allowing the US to PILLAGE the leftovers.

There is NOTHING for Ukraine in the deal.

The deal is just to allow Putin to hold on to Ukrainian territory without the fear of Ukraine fighting back.

Trump just wants Ukraine to stop fighting back.

Zelensky asked him what's in it for Ukraine?
Russia already VIOLATED a peace deal that was brokered in 2019.

Zelensky asked him what is the GUARANTEE that he wouldn't violate a new one?

The FELON couldn't provide an answer.

Putin ATTACKED Ukraine.
Now Putin, Trump, Vance and their lackeys BLAME Ukraine for it.

That's like INTENTIONALLY setting your house on fire and blaming the house for being flammable.

It's MADNESS!

Europe, and the rest of the world, need to STOP dealing with the US or according them ANY respect in international discourses.

I don't get why their leaders still feel the need to visit Trump. He's a CRIMINAL who's president because Americans FAILED.

NEVER give him legitimacy.

Europe once colonised MOST of the known world. They need to rediscover that greatness.

They NEED to stop being timid in the way they deal with MALICIOUS people.

They need to be MORE proactive. They should start SANCTIONING the US. And REDUCING the influence that the US exerts on international bodies.

There is NO country or a coalition of countries that would go to war with Europe and emerge UNSCATHED.

If US and Russia wants war, Europe (and the rest of the world) should give it to them.

Trump is already threatening Zelensky (and the world, really) with World War 3.

There is ZERO reason to try placating them.
Placation NEVER works with bullies. Only RETALIATION.

Give them that!

MORONS think the US would remain untouched in a World War.
Time to DISPEL their delusions.

You are not in touch with reality!!

Dzzzz:
..If Zelenskyy accepts the deal,who do you think will take the glory and the fall?

Forget glory, the most important thing is that people stop dying. And Ukraine is built back

Dzzzz:
..Trump will not fight Putin now that his in power cause he wants Putin on his side..Zelensky will not last long while trump and Putin are friends in private that’s why the deal is for the 3 of them to benefit but America will be the highest benefactor..

That's why I just pity Ukraine......There are just pawns in the game of chess.

kingbee90:

Have you ever stepped your smelling feet into the United States?
Go to quorum and other American Blogs you will see so many Americans commending Trump and are happy & pleased with their choice by voting him for president even the democrats.
Why not focus on your druggie president who has inflicted hardship on you and who is also a disgrace to Nigeria and the world at large.

Come on! don't be naive. 99% of the comments on those blogs are not from real people
The only Americans who Trump on this disastrous mess are his party who are afraid of him.

OlofofoCorner:



That's why I just pity Ukraine......There are just pawns in the game of chess.

If Ukraine take that deal I bet you that history will not favor them but will glorify Trump and Putin cause thats what America is all about..Now Russia is celebrating Trump but have forgotten they(Russia) started the war..

tctrills:

Forget glory, the most important thing is that people stop dying. And Ukraine is built back

Where is the assurance that Putin won't break the peace deal like he has always done? That is all Zelensky is asking for and there is nothing wrong in that.

Arrowhead71:
fear God !
Or you didn’t watch the broadcast
Zelensky gave answer to question from that empty headed Vence and they misinterpreted it
Zelensky was relatively calm,
And Trump and vence were very repulsive of him because Zelensky campaign for kamala Haris and for other reasons best known to Trump

That's your interpretation of what happened. I completely disagree with you. Zelensky insulted his host in front of the cameras. He said JD was making noise. Call him ignorant by asking if he had visited Ukraine. That's not how to treat the people feeding you.

madridguy:

I agree with Kissinger 2million percent. I've seen things first hand. They are professionals at showbiz.

Zelensky would still could have been dumped,with or without Trump. It was about the mood of delivery.

alobright17:


Russian and Ukraine who started the war ? So who actually need to stop the war,the one that started it or the one that is defending ?

Your sincere Answer will determine the type of person you are .

That's a foolish question. That's not how any war is ended. This is not time to blame Russia but to save Ukraine. If you are waiting for Russia to accept blame this war would never end and what would remain of Ukraine? Is that what you want?

tctrills:

It's clear that you and Zeelensky want this war to continue. No problem, Trump wants peace but you guys can go ahead without the arms and money of the US.
Zeelensky showed that his hate for Russia is greater than his love for his people and it's the of people like you than strengthens him while his country continues to be a mess and his people keep on dying.
Ukraine's demography can't recover from this war in the next 70 years but you guys want the war to continue. Good luck.
People are trying to help him and save his county but you interpret it as bullying. No wahala.

You don't get peace by denigrating your colleague. JD Vance had no right to address a sitting President in such a derogatory manner. I dislike bullies with ion.

Odin13:
The arrogance of trump was in full display yesterday

God bless Nigerians

The stupidity and pettiness of VP Vance was so glaring.
I was like, wtf! This 'baby' is d VP of the great United States?
Naaahh
Man was childish.
Imagine his repeated lines to Zelensky, 'have you ever said 'thank you' for once?
He lacks diplomacy.
What a brute!

LordReed:


So to you Ukraine capitulating with no security guarantees and the US having access to 50% of their mineral resources seems like a good deal? If you were Zelensky you would take that deal?

The question is what are his alternatives. He has already the biggest guarantee any one can have. The us financial interest in his minerals is more than enough guarantee.
But then he chose to continue fighting so let's see if this is a better option for his people. Let's give it 6 months to see how far he goes without the US.

Wallade:


Trump doesn't primarily want peace, he wants to take advantage and get minerals and material resources off Ukraine as payment for the resources USA spent on the war.

That is what Trump is after, he does not really care about peace between Russia and Ukraine.

Exactly...and more interested in being nominated for nobel peace prize. A great bully indeed!

Funflipper:


If you don't have anything meaningful to say, why don't you just keep quiet? Would you hand over your household to invaders because you want peace? Do you want a man to sign away his country's natural resources with no guarantee that Russia wont break the cease fire? You claim Zelensky was the only arrogant inbthe room but I believe you have a different interpretation to the word arrogance otherwise you would have seen a selfless leader with courage whi is standing up for his people and country against the unnecessary bullying by some idiots with no balls in the socalled oval office. Donald Trump is a disgrace and an embarrassment to the people of America!!! What a shame.

Lol
What Putin wants is to eat up the whole Ukraine. Check the Russian map for the area
Only Lviv will be left to Ukraine or to Poland.
Zelensky doesn't have to agree to any agreement, Putin does not care

ElevationD:


Sorry but you are very incorrect.

There was an agreement. The Europeans and Biden government played their roles. Ukraine played its role. Putin failed completely and must be held able.

Ok, since you feel that an agreement can't be reached with Putin, continue fighting. But no one is obligated to finance the war.
And Biden was an idiot the Russian never took him serious.

MRMRMR:

Ur definition of peace is surrender to your enemy and live in perpetual fear thereafter. Zelensky is a hero fighting for the freedom of his pple. He shouldn't capitulate, he must negotiate a durable peace based on respect for his country's sovereignty

No wahala, keep fighting but no one is obligated to finance your war

tctrills:

Ok, keep fighting. It's clear you have so much to say.
But then, no one is obligated to finance your war. Since you will foolishly continue a war that you can't win. Good luck. Mr fighter.

Nobody wants the war to continue. We just want the invaders to pack up and leave Ukraine. What is too much to ask for? You are not advocating for peace but rewarding putin for his aggression but Zelensky is a man of steel and not the coward you would have loved him to be.

TenQ:

He should have kept quiet like a mumu isn't it.

Then you folks would still have come out to say that Zelensky is a clown who doesn't know what he was doing in the white house.

Trump is a Russian asset!
I do not know who did the jazz for Putin as the charm is working extremely well.

It's ok, continue fighting. Let's see how it will end.
I am sure his actions will make Ukraine win the war in no time.

Funflipper:


Nobody wants the war to continue. We just want the invaders to pack up and leave Ukraine. What is too much to ask for? You are not advocating for peace but rewarding putin for his aggression but Zelensky is a man of steel and not the coward you would have loved him to be.

You really believe that the Russian will just pack up and leave? Ok let's see how you make them leave. Better learn to be practical.

God1000:
Vladimir Putin must be very happy seeing the west crumbling with the help of Donald trump.

The KGB agent at the white house is a total disgrace

Can he talk to Netanyahu like that?

Do you think Israel can go to war without being backed by America

Odin13:
The arrogance of trump was in full display yesterday

God bless Nigerians

what can he do ?
When he keeps begging western world for more ammunitions.

EmperorIsaac:

You don't get peace by denigrating your colleague. JD Vance had no right to address a sitting President in such a derogatory manner. I dislike bullies with ion.

Zelensky was rude, ungrateful and I'll mannered. JD did nothing wrong. You can't disrespect your host. Mention one rude word that came out of JD's mouth.

tctrills:

Wait oh, is it that you want this war to continue?
How has the fighting benefited Ukraine?
The problem with you is id that you choose every position that is against the Trump position.

Do you truly prefer the Biden method where by the war would go on endlessly and Ukraine will continue to be a mess?
Zeelensky was the guest of the white house but he chose to make a spectacle in front of the cameras. He is not ready for peace. He wants the war to go on forever so let him go and continue his war.
At least, he had your blessings and .

is this how to make peace in international diplomacy? Trump is only trying to give Ukraine a bitter option after dey have reached a deal with Putin. That's pure rubbish. This is neva a peace deal but a treacherous Greek gift

lexy2014:


how was zelensky arrogant?

how did zelensky make a spectacle in front of the media?

how did he not show respect to his host?

how is he not ready for peace?

By telling the US to their face that they are lucky to have ocean that separates them and that things may go wrong for them in the future.

By incorrectly declaring to them that they have been alone from the beginning, whereas, they were actually able to stay afloat due to US .

But folding hands across chest like a petulant child.

By rolling eyes and shrugging at Uncle Sam's opinions.

tctrills:

I think you are confused. The only arrogant person yesterday was your man Zeelensky.
He was a guest of the white house yet he chose to make a spectacle in front of the media. He showed no respect for his host and he is not ready for peace.

Let’s get the fact straightened here:

Zelensky wants American including security guarantee.. meaning American military presence with a coalition of EU states.

Russia will not accepts EU states and America that’s basically NATO in Ukraine, and will fight hard to prevent this scenario

The US can not give security guarantee because it may result in conflict with Russia (a fellow super power))

The European states like UK and do not have the light to face Russia indignation in Ukraine with the military of the US.

Trumps wants the honor as the leader that brought peace to this war, so the pressure on Zelensky to accept a ceasefire, accept Russian demands

The EU especially the Brits are urging Zelensky not to give in. Same way the Brits scuppered the Turkish settlement agreement between Ukraine and Russia.

Russia think Zelensky is an illegitimate leader since his 4 year tenure has expired. So any agreement he signs May be null and void.

What next?
Zelensky May be impeached?
Russia May March on to Dnipro ?

Where are those MOG’s that see tomorrow?
T

Funflipper:


Where is the assurance that Putin won't break the peace deal like he has always done? That is all Zelensky is asking for and there is nothing wrong in that.

Like Trump said, there is no assurance. What is the assurance that china would not attack the US today. If we are waiting for assurances, the whole world would be at war by now.

E remain make Putin Dey pat Trump for head in public o!

Poor Zelensky. His Nazi allies are no longer in control of the White House.

Mandate1:
is this how to make peace in international diplomacy? Trump is only trying to give Ukraine a bitter option after dey have reached a deal with Putin. That's pure rubbish. This is neva a peace deal but a treacherous Greek gift

No problem, let the war continue. In 6 months time, let's have this discussion again.