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| TenQ: 9:46am On Mar 02 |
Expanse2020:When did Tafsir become the word of Allah? So, show me where Allah replaced the abrogated verse with something similar or better? |
| Expanse2020(m): 10:18am On Mar 02 |
TenQ:Toor.. May god heal you 1 Like |
| TenQ: 10:23am On Mar 02 |
Expanse2020:The truth of the matter is that there EXIST no replacement for the so called abrogated verse. This has some logical implications 1. The verse was not abrogated. Then Allah will be speaking a truth 2. The verse is abrogated Then Allah has spoken a lie in the Qur'an Sorry, which one is it!? |
| Emvirints1: 6:43am On Mar 03 |
Tjra:where this idiot with big salary and small brain 🧠 stupid fool. |
| Expanse2020(m): 11:41am On Mar 03 |
TenQ:Tell me what the bible said about the Sodom act and what the new testament said is the punishment for it.... Answer it we continue on the topic |
| TenQ: 12:53pm On Mar 03 |
Expanse2020:Hell fire is the punishment for such. Corinthians 6:9-10 "Or do you not know that wrongdoers will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor men who have sex with men nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God." |
| Expanse2020(m): 6:25pm On Mar 03 |
TenQ:You should tell me the law they are using to judge them during the time of the Moses and Jesus too |
| TenQ: 6:26pm On Mar 03 |
Expanse2020:Leviticus 20:13, if a man lies with another man as with a woman, both have committed an abomination and shall be put to death; their blood is upon me them |
| Expanse2020(m): 10:29am On Mar 04 |
TenQ: So between the killings and 80lashes which one has the mercy of the lord? 1 Like |
| TenQ: 9:08am On Mar 05 |
Expanse2020:Which Lord? For the Jews, God says kill the such Jews (applicable only to the jews) For the Christians , it is even worse, God says, Eternity in Hell Fire. Allah is indeed merciful to prescribe a slight beating with sandals (abrogated) for men while the women could be jailed until the give up the ghost. Allah is indeed merciful to the men. Why does Allah hate the muslim women so much!? |
| Expanse2020(m): 9:22pm On Mar 05 |
TenQ:For the Jews, God says kill the such Jews (applicable only to the jews) For the Christians , it is even worse, God says, Eternity in Hell Fire. So you know your God is wicked, worse and Allah is a merciful God Allah is indeed merciful to prescribe a slight beating with sandals (abrogated) for men while the women could be jailed until the give up the ghost. Allah is indeed merciful to the men. Why does Allah hate the muslim women so much!?[/quote] but your own God is wicked toward the women |
| TenQ: 9:54pm On Mar 05 |
Expanse2020:I feel like calling you OLODO rabata that doesn't read his Qur'an. No wonder that satan has sealed your heart. Even in Islam, the punishment for evil doers is forever Quran 98:6 "Indeed, those who disbelieve and commit hypocrisy, and those who are Jews, and the polytheists, are in the Fire of Hell, abiding eternally therein. Those are the worst of creatures." Quran 2:39 "But those who disbelieve and deny Our signs are the companions of the Fire; they will abide therein eternally." But of course, this doesn't apply to Muslims even if they commit illegal sex like homosexuality. Sahih al-Bukhari 5827 Narrated Abu Dharr: I came to the Prophet (ﷺ) while he was wearing white clothes and sleeping. Then I went back to him again after he had got up from his sleep. He said, "Nobody says: 'None has the right to be worshipped but Allah' and then later on he dies while believing in that, except that he will enter Paradise." I said, "Even if he had committed illegal sexual intercourse and theft?" He said. 'Even if he had committed illegal sexual intercourse and theft." I said, "Even if he had committed illegal sexual intercourse and theft?" He said. 'Even if he had committed illegal sexual intercourse and theft." I said, 'Even it he had committed illegal sexual intercourse and theft?' He said, "Even if he had committed illegal sexual intercourse and theft, inspite of the Abu Dharr's dislike. Abu `Abdullah said, "This is at the time of death or before it if one repents and regrets and says "None has the right to be worshipped but Allah. He will be forgiven his sins." So. you see why homosexuals will enter the Islamic paradise!? They will have several boys to attend to their need for such orgies Quran 56:17: "Immortal boys will go around them (serving)"1. Quran 76:19: "And round about them will (serve) boys of everlasting youth. If you see them, you would think them scattered pearls" |
| Expanse2020(m): 10:20am On Mar 06 |
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[quote author=TenQ post=134414073] I feel like calling you OLODO rabata that doesn't read his Qur'an. No wonder that satan has sealed your heart. Even in Islam, the punishment for evil doers is forever Quran 98:6 "Indeed, those who disbelieve and commit hypocrisy, and those who are Jews, and the polytheists, are in the Fire of Hell, abiding eternally therein. Those are the worst of creatures." Quran 2:39 "But those who disbelieve and deny Our signs are the companions of the Fire; they will abide therein eternally." But of course, this doesn't apply to Muslims even if they commit illegal sex like homosexuality. Sahih al-Bukhari 5827 Narrated Abu Dharr: I came to the Prophet (ﷺ) while he was wearing white clothes and sleeping. Then I went back to him again after he had got up from his sleep. He said, "Nobody says: 'None has the right to be worshipped but Allah' and then later on he dies while believing in that, except that he will enter Paradise." I said, "Even if he had committed illegal sexual intercourse and theft?" He said. 'Even if he had committed illegal sexual intercourse and theft." I said, "Even if he had committed illegal sexual intercourse and theft?" He said. 'Even if he had committed illegal sexual intercourse and theft." I said, 'Even it he had committed illegal sexual intercourse and theft?' He said, "Even if he had committed illegal sexual intercourse and theft, inspite of the Abu Dharr's dislike. Abu `Abdullah said, "This is at the time of death or before it if one repents and regrets and says "None has the right to be worshipped but Allah. He will be forgiven his sins." So. you see why homosexuals will enter the Islamic paradise!? They will have several boys to attend to their need for such orgies Quran 56:17: "Immortal boys will go around them (serving)"1. Quran 76:19: "And round about them will (serve) boys of everlasting youth. If you see them, you would think them scattered pearls" [/quote) Dont change the topic You earlier said your God is a wícked God for punishing people. For the Jews, God says kill the such Jews (applicable only to the jews) For the Christians , it is even worse, God says, Eternity in Hell Fire. So you know your God is wicked, worse and Allah is a merciful God Why does Allah hate the muslim women so much!? but your own God is wicked toward the women How could your God be so wicked to his creation..... I can understand A God sacrifice A God to save his creation... A God believe to killed his son to save his servants A God Forsaken his son and punished his son to save the diner🤣🤣🤣🤣 It's the same God you said it's a wícked one toward his creation.. So I can deduced that your God can be a merciful one like my Allah |
| TenQ: 12:40pm On Mar 06 |
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[quote author=Expanse2020 post=134419423][/quote] Please what is death according to Islam? Is it annihilation or state of no existence? Is death an exhibition of wickedness of God? Is Jesus alive or dead? Does Allah even love you at all since you are going to hell fire? You see why I feel like calling you OLODO of Islam! because your ignorance is exceeded only by your ignorance! You still have not explained why homosexuals will be in the Islamic paradise with young boys! Why does Allah seem to hate the women who commit homosexuality? |
| Expanse2020(m): 7:53pm On Mar 06 |
TenQ:Tell me why your God is a wícked one..... Why your God is brutal to women Why your God is so brutal to his creation So we can move to a next step |
| TenQ: 9:51pm On Mar 06 |
Expanse2020:If Allah can be trusted to speak the truth according to Quran 29:46 says, "Our God and your God is one". Then Allah is a wicked one Of course we have established that Allah is wicked to women. And he isn't brutal to his creation. Please deny that Qur'an 29:46 is true! |
| Expanse2020(m): 10:13pm On Mar 06 |
TenQ: So you too believe Allah is your God Lobatan... Since you believe Allah is our God Case closed |
| TenQ: 10:22pm On Mar 06 |
Expanse2020:How can Hubal be my God? Have I ever told you I believe in the lies of Mohammed in your Qur'an? To show you your ignorance of what your God said, I've shown you the Qur'an Please deny that Qur'an 29:46 is true! Do you know that Allah is Hubal? |
| Expanse2020(m): 8:10am On Mar 07 |
TenQ: And do not argue with the People of the Scripture except in a way that is best, except for those who commit injustice among them, and say, "We believe in that which has been revealed to us and revealed to you. And our God and your God is one; and we are Muslims [in submission] to Him." Did you believe that God is One? Did you believe Moses believe God is One? Did you believe Jesus believe God is One? And did you believe Jehova is Hubal And did you know Jehova is Hubal or Baal any each way they call it |
| TenQ: 8:19am On Mar 07 |
Expanse2020:You see why I sometimes wish to call you OLODO!? Allah is saying that he is the same God as the God of the Jews and Christians. He is not saying that Allah and the God of the Christians and Jews are one each. This will make two Gods. Khai! You should have even checked your Tafsirs before you start vomiting nonsense. Is the fast already affecting your cognition? I challenge you to answer the Questions: 1. How many daughters have Hubal and what are there NAMES? 2. If indeed Allah thinks our God is one, why does he accuse us of having three Gods? |
| Expanse2020(m): 8:52am On Mar 07 |
TenQ: Answer this first Did you believe God is one ? Did you believe God of Moses is one? Did you believe God of Jesus is one? |
| TenQ: 8:59am On Mar 07 |
Expanse2020:Does it matter what I believe as long as Allah thinks I have THREE Gods! I challenge you to answer the Questions: 1. How many daughters have Hubal and what are there NAMES? 2. If indeed Allah thinks our God is one, why does he accuse us of having three Gods? |
| Expanse2020(m): 9:53am On Mar 07 |
TenQ: Answer this first Did you believe God is one ? Did you believe God of Moses is one? Did you believe God of Jesus is one? |
| TenQ: 10:14am On Mar 07 |
Expanse2020:Promise me by Allah that you will respond if I answer you your question: for I see you will run away! |
| Expanse2020(m): 11:42am On Mar 07 |
TenQ:I will answer you when you answer me Answer this first Did you believe God is one ? Did you believe God of Moses is one? Did you believe God of Jesus is one? Did you believe Jehovah is Hubal or baaal |
| TenQ: 11:47am On Mar 07 |
Expanse2020:So that you wont run away when i answer you Promise me by Allah that you will respond if I answer you your question: for I see you will run away! |
| Expanse2020(m): 12:04pm On Mar 07 |
TenQ: I will answer you when you answer me Answer this first Did you believe God is one ? Did you believe God of Moses is one? Did you believe God of Jesus is one? Did you believe Jehovah is Hubal or baaal Am here for you answer my question and I promise to answer your too |
| TenQ: 12:17pm On Mar 07 |
Expanse2020: Did you believe God is one ? No! God is NOT numeral ONE (Wāḥid) God is ECHAD (אֶחָד) (Ahad) Did you believe God of Moses is one? No! The God of Moses is NOT numeral ONE (Wāḥid) The God of Moses is ECHAD (אֶחָד) (Ahad) Did you believe God of Jesus is one? No! The God of Jesus is NOT numeral ONE (Wāḥid) The God of Jesus is ECHAD (אֶחָד) (Ahad) Genesis 2:24 "Therefore, a man shall leave his father and his mother and cleave to his wife, and they shall become one (Echad) flesh." עַל־כֵּן יַעֲזָב־אִישׁ אֶת־אָבִיו וְאֶת־אִמּוֹ וְדָבַק בְּאִשְׁתּוֹ וְהָיוּ לְבָשָׂר אֶחָד׃ The word Echad here does not mean a solitary or absolute one, but rather a unified one—a compound unity. I have answered your questions. I challenge you to answer the Questions: 1. How many daughters have Hubal and what are their NAMES? 2. If indeed Allah thinks our God is one, why does he accuse us of having three Gods? |
| Expanse2020(m): 12:36pm On Mar 07 |
TenQ: I will answer you when you answer me Answer this first Did you believe God is one ? Did you believe God of Moses is one? Did you believe God of Jesus is one? Did you believe Jehovah is Hubal or baaal finish it don't skip anyone PLs |
| TenQ: 12:47pm On Mar 07 |
Expanse2020:Jehovah is NOT Hubal or Baal. 1 Kings 18:21 "And Elijah came near to all the people and said, 'How long will you go limping between two different opinions? If the Lord (YHWH) is God, follow him; but if Baal, then follow him.' And the people did not answer him a word." Hubal was a pagan deity worshipped in pre-Islamic Mecca, particularly by the Quraysh tribe, and is most famously associated with the Kaaba. The Bible does not directly reference Hubal but it is a synonym for Baal I have answered your questions. I challenge you to answer the Questions: 1. How many daughters have Hubal and what are their NAMES? 2. If indeed Allah thinks our God is one, why does he accuse us of having three Gods? |
| Expanse2020(m): 6:09pm On Mar 07 |
TenQ: Because when you have leave the right path to the wrong path and attribute three in 1 to him He warned you through the messenger and those who listens turn back and those that have blocked their mind like you may likely perish in it |
| TenQ: 6:16pm On Mar 07 |
Expanse2020:I knew you were NEVER going to answer my Questions So, Let me help you Origins of Hubal There may be some foundation of truth in the story that Amr travelled in Syria and had brought back from there the cults of the goddesses ʻUzzāʼ and Manāt, and had combined it with that of Hubal, the idol of the Khuza'a. According to Al-Azraqi, the image was brought to Mecca "from the land of Hit in Mesopotamia" (Hīt in modern Iraq). Philip K. Hitti, who relates the name Hubal to an Aramaic word for spirit, suggests that the worship of Hubal was imported to Mecca from the north of Arabia, possibly from Moab or Mesopotamia. Hubal may have been the combination of Hu, meaning "spirit" or "god", and the Moabite god Baal meaning "master" or "lord" or as a rendition of Syriac habbǝlā/Hebrew heḇel "vanity". https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hubal The chief god in pre-Islamic Arabia was Hubal, the Syrian god of the moon. The three daughters of Hubal were the chief goddesses of Meccan Arabian mythology: Allāt, Al-‘Uzzá, and Manāt. Allāt was the goddess associated with the underworld. Al-‘Uzzá, “The Mightiest One” or “The Strong,” was a fertility goddess, and she was called upon for protection and victory before war. Manāt was the goddess of fate; the Book of Idols describes her as the most ancient of all these idols. The Book of Idols describes gods and rites of Arabian religion, but criticizes the idolatry of pre-Islamic religion. https://historyguild.org/pre-islamic-arabia/ Can you see the names of the THREE daughters of Hubal? Both Ahad and Taoheed are almost the same family Ahad= means "ONE-OF many" or "ONE out OF Many" Taoheed = means UNIFICATION Mohammed UNIFIED ALL the gods and idols of the Kaaba into ONE he called Allah Is this not the reason Allah use PLURAL for himself? |
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